2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 1613. | Bitcointalksearch.org

rhomelmabini

hero member

Activity: 2030

Merit: 578

No God or Kings, only BITCOIN.

Quote from: Oasisman on August 25, 2021, 05:20:54 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2021, 04:34:27 AM

I don’t like Patrick Beverly at all and don’t think he should be in the NBA. That being said, Patrick Beverly is a much better player than Thomas. Thomas has never been the same since his injury in Boston and Pat Bev is still one of the elite defenders of the NBA. LeBron wants to win above all else. I doubt he’d want IT over Bev. It would be a good move for the Lakers to show they treat players much better than Boston…

Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

And, we'd be surprised that two of them wasn't able to make on the Lakers roster (oops! spoiler alert*). Aren't they have tons of SG and PG in the current roster? Well, this isn't to spoil the fun kind of post though, just my own opinion they got handful of ball-handlers already. Maybe they need one more on the front court position helping either AD, DW, and MG.

chaser15

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 1065

Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game

Quote from: danherbias07 on August 25, 2021, 09:50:30 AM

I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

Isaiah Thomas is just a literal backup now. Not a shooter or playmaker anymore. His skill and talent before are now gone even during back when he is on Cleveland Cavaliers. Pat Beverly is much good but I don't think he and Lebron will make chemistry. This guy is like Dennis Schroder.

I'm wondering why are the Lakers only limiting their options to these 2 players? They can offer a trade for someone else or try to get a good player in the free agency right?

danherbias07

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1134

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 25, 2021, 02:18:18 AM

Isn't it a bit too late for him to be sentimental if that was the real reason? The guy has retired from @Reid's post. It would only make sense if he doesn't know of Jared's retirement.

Who knows? Maybe he was also surprised about the idea and didn't had the memo. Grin

It proves he is still just a player and not the owner of the Lakers.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 25, 2021, 08:11:45 AM

Caruso though is not with the Lakers anymore, that's why they are trying to recruit Pat or IT.

In my opinion though, maybe James has something to say as to who is going out or who is in in the Lakers roster. IT has been out of the league for quite sometime so this might influence the Lakers decision whether to add him or not or choose to chase other players.

I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

cryptomaniac_xxx

hero member

Activity: 1344

Merit: 540

Quote from: agustina2 on August 25, 2021, 06:46:12 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on August 25, 2021, 05:20:54 AM

Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

I believed Lebron has nothing to do with that. He won't influence that signing since they are already complete. Lakers' GM has the final say on that. Either Pat or IT, I think no one from them will become a starter. It's like the Lakers are now just filling the empty slots on the backup side so any players will do depends on the contract.

The Lakers should enhance Caruso and try to be the best backup for Russell Westbrook, not Pat or IT. He's not a scorer type but more of passing skills. He is also athletic but needs more consistency. That's what the Lakers need.

Caruso though is not with the Lakers anymore, that's why they are trying to recruit Pat or IT.

In my opinion though, maybe James has something to say as to who is going out or who is in in the Lakers roster. IT has been out of the league for quite sometime so this might influence the Lakers decision whether to add him or not or choose to chase other players.

Karartma1

legendary

Activity: 2310

Merit: 1422

IMO Westbrook's been a great add for the LA Lakers. He has already played with superstars, he played with the likes of KD, James Harden, Bradley Beal and that's not gonna be a problem for him.
He was underestimated for too long because Russell will probably give LA at least 15 points per night and lots of rebounds. Lakers stands for his great once in a lifetime opportunity not to be missed.

agustina2

legendary

Activity: 2436

Merit: 1008

Quote from: Oasisman on August 25, 2021, 05:20:54 AM

Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

I believed Lebron has nothing to do with that. He won't influence that signing since they are already complete. Lakers' GM has the final say on that. Either Pat or IT, I think no one from them will become a starter. It's like the Lakers are now just filling the empty slots on the backup side so any players will do depends on the contract.

The Lakers should enhance Caruso and try to be the best backup for Russell Westbrook, not Pat or IT. He's not a scorer type but more of passing skills. He is also athletic but needs more consistency. That's what the Lakers need.

ultrloa

legendary

Activity: 2758

Merit: 1228

Quote from: Lordshiva on August 25, 2021, 06:07:38 AM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 25, 2021, 04:40:08 AM

I do not think that PatBev is a "much better" player than IT, lets be serious IT had a great season followed by injuries and the fact that dude was basically kicked off the team after giving them all with injury and his sisters death, thats just something that tells you all you need to know about team owners and management. After all that IT is still a good player if he could rehab and get his minutes, slowly he will build himself to a good level and be great. I would say that give him thousand shots a day everyday from now until playoffs and you will have yourself a great shooter for lebron and westbrook to pass outside, and he is definitely a good enough one right now, just needs some reps. PatBev on the other hand is just a locker room cancer, dude is hated wherever he goes, dude is just an annoying little brat, I wouldn't want him on my team even if he was free.

Without any doubt PatBev is not a better player that IT. IT in is own is a one of the good players going around but he had some bad luck as well with those injuries and family problems. But it would be just a matter of time for him to come back in form after a couple of matches.

Yes he's good before but do he still brought that talent now? We know talents fades over the years specially if he didn't play competitive basket ball for quite long time compare to Beverly where he is still active in the League, Although Beverly is not a scorer but for sure he will get into the nerves of the players since his main talent is hustle and defense which is unique for a point guard.

Lordshiva

full member

Activity: 840

Merit: 126

Welcome back 🙏

Quote from: Captain Corporate on August 25, 2021, 04:40:08 AM

I do not think that PatBev is a "much better" player than IT, lets be serious IT had a great season followed by injuries and the fact that dude was basically kicked off the team after giving them all with injury and his sisters death, thats just something that tells you all you need to know about team owners and management. After all that IT is still a good player if he could rehab and get his minutes, slowly he will build himself to a good level and be great. I would say that give him thousand shots a day everyday from now until playoffs and you will have yourself a great shooter for lebron and westbrook to pass outside, and he is definitely a good enough one right now, just needs some reps. PatBev on the other hand is just a locker room cancer, dude is hated wherever he goes, dude is just an annoying little brat, I wouldn't want him on my team even if he was free.

Without any doubt PatBev is not a better player that IT. IT in is own is a one of the good players going around but he had some bad luck as well with those injuries and family problems. But it would be just a matter of time for him to come back in form after a couple of matches.

LogitechMouse

legendary

Activity: 2576

Merit: 1043

Need A Campaign Manager? | Contact Little_Mouse

Quote from: Vaculin on August 24, 2021, 04:27:57 PM

What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

Quote

Beal can also play out this year, collect his 10 years of service, and re-sign with the Wizards on a five-year contract worth an estimated $235 million, a deal that would surpass Giannis Antetokounmpo (five years, $228 million) as the largest in NBA history. Other teams would only be able to offer four years and significantly less money.

source : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947544-bold-predictions-for-nbas-top-5-trade-targets-right-now

Well, it looks like that the Wizards are fully committed in keeping Beal for 5 years.
Beal also promised that he will improve on his 3 point shooting and low post scoring. Another one is that the Wizards don't have any superstar like Beal but maybe, just maybe we can see rising players from the Wizards that will help him all throughout the season.

Now that Westbrook isn't on the Wizards anymore, Beal has all the time to create his own shots. He is the first option of the team and giving him the possible biggest contract in NBA history might happen. Lets see though because we might see some last minute changes Cheesy

.

Oasisman

hero member

Activity: 2716

Merit: 552

Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2021, 04:34:27 AM

I don’t like Patrick Beverly at all and don’t think he should be in the NBA. That being said, Patrick Beverly is a much better player than Thomas. Thomas has never been the same since his injury in Boston and Pat Bev is still one of the elite defenders of the NBA. LeBron wants to win above all else. I doubt he’d want IT over Bev. It would be a good move for the Lakers to show they treat players much better than Boston…

Same thoughts. I don't think IT will become an additional offensive threat for the Lakers. He hasn't been playing like he used to when he's in Boston.
But one thing I noticed about LeBron, he always like to have a veteran teammates. So, most probably IT would sign with the Lakers.
Well, IMO the Lakers should pursue for Beverly. I'd rather have another solid defensive guy to add up to the current Lakers roster. I also think the Lakers this year would be more focused offensively than defensively.

Captain Corporate

hero member

Activity: 2170

Merit: 575

I do not think that PatBev is a "much better" player than IT, lets be serious IT had a great season followed by injuries and the fact that dude was basically kicked off the team after giving them all with injury and his sisters death, thats just something that tells you all you need to know about team owners and management. After all that IT is still a good player if he could rehab and get his minutes, slowly he will build himself to a good level and be great. I would say that give him thousand shots a day everyday from now until playoffs and you will have yourself a great shooter for lebron and westbrook to pass outside, and he is definitely a good enough one right now, just needs some reps. PatBev on the other hand is just a locker room cancer, dude is hated wherever he goes, dude is just an annoying little brat, I wouldn't want him on my team even if he was free.

OgNasty

donator

Activity: 4760

Merit: 4323

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: Fredomago on August 24, 2021, 04:45:58 PM

Quote from: dwyane36 on August 24, 2021, 04:34:07 PM

Quote from: Maslate on August 24, 2021, 03:18:56 PM

Pat Beverly is still not settled in a team yet? lol. I think no one wants this guy anymore, but sure if he will be traded with the Lakers and he would play what the team's needed him to play, then for sure he might stay for a while, and who knows, he might also win a championship.

Together with Howard, I guess they'll be the bad boys on the floor.

Patrick Beverley was traded to the Timberwolves one week ago. I don't know if the Wolves have a plan to trade him, but it seems that he is still not added to their roster. Regarding the Lakers, I guess they would rather sign Isaiah Thomas than Pat.

The chance for Thomas is much bigger than Pat being acquired by Lakers, LeBron is more interested with how Isaiah will help them
giving some additional offensive threats.

Though still an open deal for Lakers if they see some value for Pat which can be use as a good defensive stoppers.

Still not included with the Timberwolves roster but with his past tweets after the trade he's looking forward to play with the wolves
just don't have any updates if wolves have other plans for him.

I don’t like Patrick Beverly at all and don’t think he should be in the NBA. That being said, Patrick Beverly is a much better player than Thomas. Thomas has never been the same since his injury in Boston and Pat Bev is still one of the elite defenders of the NBA. LeBron wants to win above all else. I doubt he’d want IT over Bev. It would be a good move for the Lakers to show they treat players much better than Boston…

Jating

hero member

Activity: 2842

Merit: 772

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: Vaculin on August 24, 2021, 04:27:57 PM

What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

Quote

Beal can also play out this year, collect his 10 years of service, and re-sign with the Wizards on a five-year contract worth an estimated $235 million, a deal that would surpass Giannis Antetokounmpo (five years, $228 million) as the largest in NBA history. Other teams would only be able to offer four years and significantly less money.

source : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947544-bold-predictions-for-nbas-top-5-trade-targets-right-now

Getting such a contract is a great success for any player. This is a really big and nice new home.

I guess Wizards really value what Beal is giving to them in the last couple of years. He was close to winning the scoring title last season if not for Curry's amazing scoring run.

I guess what they needed is another superstar to really help him. Westbrook provided that spark, but it was not enough as they are playing in the same position. Probably another good power forward or center would do a lot of help to at least bring the Wizards to the playoffs again next season or even get the hump over first round.

carlisle1

hero member

Activity: 2744

Merit: 541

Campaign Management?"Hhampuz" is the Man

Quote from: agustina2 on August 24, 2021, 05:59:15 PM

Quote from: Vaculin on August 24, 2021, 04:27:57 PM

What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

Yes, he deserved that. He's the only player I think that averaging 40+ points per game but his team always loses last season. He is almost close to a franchise player and his loyalty paid off.

But Wizards shouldn't stop on that. They are far from being a contender in a much weaker Eastern Conference. They should try to acquire a big name on the free agency or try negotiating with other teams.

Wizard should do that, Beal alone can't carry this team but having another star that will help him will do.

But they have to be surrounded by role players who will really have a good impact to the team,
Big contract means nothing if there's no improvement.

I use to remember the Spurs back then, where stars are willing to earn much lesser for the sake
of being a title contender.

Bttzed03

legendary

Activity: 2114

Merit: 1150

https://bitcoincleanup.com/

Quote from: danherbias07 on August 25, 2021, 02:08:44 AM

~
I think it's just because LBJ and Dudley had good connection already and it hurts him to not see Dudley in their bench anymore for other kinds of support.

Isn't it a bit too late for him to be sentimental if that was the real reason? The guy has retired from @Reid's post. It would only make sense if he doesn't know of Jared's retirement.

danherbias07

legendary

Activity: 3346

Merit: 1134

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: SirLancelot on August 24, 2021, 01:33:58 PM

I would say that if they got one more player for SG that would have been awesome, more correctly get a proper one instead of someone else. I mean think about it, they could play Westbrook, Lebron, Melo, AD all together a fifth person that is as star as those names would make things so much better.

Westbrook can shoot but not that great with perimeter shots so yes, I agree with you that they need a shooting guard. An outside shooting specialists to be precise. But looking at the free agent tracker, there is not much good choice anymore. https://www.nba.com/players/free-agent-tracker/2021
Avery Bradley is unsigned but he is a defensive specialist. Danny Green also signed with the 76ers for a 2 year deal $20m. Lakers will have a hard time looking for that kind of role.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 25, 2021, 12:43:19 AM

^ I'm confused with LBJ's tweet on Dudley's hiring. Hurts? Did Jared turned down an offer from Lebron to join Dallas because that's the only reason I could think of right now.

I think it's just because LBJ and Dudley had good connection already and it hurts him to not see Dudley in their bench anymore for other kinds of support.

Bttzed03

legendary

Activity: 2114

Merit: 1150

https://bitcoincleanup.com/

^ I'm confused with LBJ's tweet on Dudley's hiring. Hurts? Did Jared turned down an offer from Lebron to join Dallas because that's the only reason I could think of right now.

Quote from: Vaculin on August 24, 2021, 04:27:57 PM

What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

Quote

Beal can also play out this year, collect his 10 years of service, and re-sign with the Wizards on a five-year contract worth an estimated $235 million, a deal that would surpass Giannis Antetokounmpo (five years, $228 million) as the largest in NBA history. Other teams would only be able to offer four years and significantly less money.

source : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947544-bold-predictions-for-nbas-top-5-trade-targets-right-now

It doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks now, he should just sign the contract Grin

Reid

hero member

Activity: 3052

Merit: 651

Another retired player just came out and is now a part of the Dallas Mavericks coaching staff.
Jared Dudley joining Jason Kidd's coaching staff with Dallas Mavericks
Lebron James has something to say about it.
https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1430229476680474627?s=20

I think he was attached to Dudley in years playing with him. As a veteran, they could really make a huge impact on players on and off the game.
Well, I guess he did something really good for Lebron for him to react like that.

Dave1

hero member

Activity: 1414

Merit: 542

Quote from: SirLancelot on August 24, 2021, 01:33:58 PM

I would say that if they got one more player for SG that would have been awesome, more correctly get a proper one instead of someone else. I mean think about it, they could play Westbrook, Lebron, Melo, AD all together a fifth person that is as star as those names would make things so much better.

They are still chasing Isiah Thomas as far I know, and there are rumors about the Rajon Rondo going back to Lakers as well to complete the cast.

Quote from: SirLancelot on August 24, 2021, 01:33:58 PM

I still think that Melo will be given the leadership of the second unit but that is still a great situation for him as well because he would be the 6th man of a team that is fighting for a title and he may even get a lot of minutes (just after a few seasons ago where he wasn't even wanted and couldn't find a contract) if someone gets injured and he is required to play a lot of minutes.

Melo will be the first option as second unit coming from the bench. But Lakers are so deep right now that they can combine players in the floor and be effective as the first five.

agustina2

legendary

Activity: 2436

Merit: 1008

Quote from: Vaculin on August 24, 2021, 04:27:57 PM

What do you think about this, does he deserved to get this big contract?

If it will be realized, Beal would get the biggest contract in the NBA history.

Yes, he deserved that. He's the only player I think that averaging 40+ points per game but his team always loses last season. He is almost close to a franchise player and his loyalty paid off.

But Wizards shouldn't stop on that. They are far from being a contender in a much weaker Eastern Conference. They should try to acquire a big name on the free agency or try negotiating with other teams.

Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 1613. (Read 914606 times)