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Quote from: Reid on August 26, 2021, 07:06:09 AM

Man, I didn't know Van Exel was on the sidelines in different teams until now. Grin

Nick Van Exel returns to Atlanta Hawks as assistant coach
Good news for the Hawks.
He had been a player development instructor for quite some time with different players and teams and now he will be in the front to assist them and try to win a championship.
After a good run from the Hawks last season I thought they won't even change anything. But this is good, they are upgrading in the coaching side instead of trading players.

I don't know the track record of Van Exel but I know he is one of the great players in the NBA back in 90's IIRC. Hawks had an unexpected run last season, they don't change their lineup, they just need to ensure that they are healthy next season especially their star player Trae Young.

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Man, I didn't know Van Exel was on the sidelines in different teams until now. Grin

Nick Van Exel returns to Atlanta Hawks as assistant coach
Good news for the Hawks.
He had been a player development instructor for quite some time with different players and teams and now he will be in the front to assist them and try to win a championship.
After a good run from the Hawks last season I thought they won't even change anything. But this is good, they are upgrading in the coaching side instead of trading players.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 25, 2021, 09:50:30 AM

I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

Yes, I definitely agree with you that IT could be a better fit that Pat Beverley. It seems though that James has forgo of the past, he seems to be interested of him to help them out for the next season. Perhaps he was expecting big from IT when he was in the Cavs, but it was a different IT because of the injury. Yeah, let Pat stay with the Wolves and see how it goes, he could be a good leader experience wise to help and guide the young Wolves teams.

IT is a liability in defence, but it will not have a big effect on the Lakers as they have other 4 players on the floor that are good defensively. They can take care of the shaded area as James and Davis will are good defenders, so it's still good if they'll acquire IT. Attitude is very important and I think Pat does not have that and it will cause his team's chemistry a problem in the long run.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 25, 2021, 09:50:30 AM

I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

Yes, I definitely agree with you that IT could be a better fit that Pat Beverley. It seems though that James has forgo of the past, he seems to be interested of him to help them out for the next season. Perhaps he was expecting big from IT when he was in the Cavs, but it was a different IT because of the injury. Yeah, let Pat stay with the Wolves and see how it goes, he could be a good leader experience wise to help and guide the young Wolves teams.

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Quote from: Finestream on August 26, 2021, 04:49:23 AM

We all know that IT is not in his prime anymore, but if he gets added to the Lakers line up he would not be a liability in terms of contract as he won't be paid like Lebron or Davis, he will only get a veteran salary but his contribution will be vital for the team.

He is not in his prime not because of his age but because of the injury, he suffered when he was still playing with his past team Boston Celtics. He is only 32 years old, if he did not suffer the injury, he could still be one of the best PG now and he could have a maximum contract.

The LA Lakers is a rich team, they know if they what they are doing, they would not acquire a player if they know it would not contribute to the team's goal.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on August 25, 2021, 02:49:56 PM

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Why is he still free agent anyway? Normally teams should get in line to sign him. Something's wrong here. Huh

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81 points is good but that's still not the NBA. It all went down for him because of the injury and the way he or his agent handled the contract negotiation with the Celtics. I don't blame him for making demands but there's just too many talent who are younger and less injury prone that the Celtics could pick to replace him. He should have known better.

Yeah, but maybe it put a hype on him, making noises around the bastketball world and LA take notice of it give him the time to work out with the team and let's see how it goes for IT. For sure he understands that he is no longer in his prime, can't make any more demand specially after he gets injured. Probably trying to salvage his career and could be his last chance. But I still remember when IT was still at his best in Celtics, unbelievable to see his plays during that time.

It's hard to put a guy who cannot achieve their wants and for sure they will suffer the addition if Thomas cannot meet their expectation to him, Maybe best for lakers to get a fresh legs which can help LBJ,AD and Westbrook on the court. I don't mean IT is a bad player but we know that he is not on his prime anymore and to many disadvantages if lakers will get him( This is just my opinion but let see how the journey to get back on NBA goes).

We all know that IT is not in his prime anymore, but if he gets added to the Lakers line up he would not be a liability in terms of contract as he won't be paid like Lebron or Davis, he will only get a veteran salary but his contribution will be vital for the team.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 25, 2021, 10:31:33 PM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 25, 2021, 09:21:38 PM

Quote from: redhack on August 25, 2021, 05:06:38 PM

Quote from: dwyane36 on August 25, 2021, 02:49:56 PM

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Why is he still free agent anyway? Normally teams should get in line to sign him. Something's wrong here. Huh

Obviously

81 points is good but that's still not the NBA. It all went down for him because of the injury and the way he or his agent handled the contract negotiation with the Celtics. I don't blame him for making demands but there's just too many talent who are younger and less injury prone that the Celtics could pick to replace him. He should have known better.

Yeah, but maybe it put a hype on him, making noises around the bastketball world and LA take notice of it give him the time to work out with the team and let's see how it goes for IT. For sure he understands that he is no longer in his prime, can't make any more demand specially after he gets injured. Probably trying to salvage his career and could be his last chance. But I still remember when IT was still at his best in Celtics, unbelievable to see his plays during that time.

It's hard to put a guy who cannot achieve their wants and for sure they will suffer the addition if Thomas cannot meet their expectation to him, Maybe best for lakers to get a fresh legs which can help LBJ,AD and Westbrook on the court. I don't mean IT is a bad player but we know that he is not on his prime anymore and to many disadvantages if lakers will get him( This is just my opinion but let see how the journey to get back on NBA goes).

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 25, 2021, 09:21:38 PM

Quote from: redhack on August 25, 2021, 05:06:38 PM

Quote from: dwyane36 on August 25, 2021, 02:49:56 PM

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Why is he still free agent anyway? Normally teams should get in line to sign him. Something's wrong here. Huh

Obviously

81 points is good but that's still not the NBA. It all went down for him because of the injury and the way he or his agent handled the contract negotiation with the Celtics. I don't blame him for making demands but there's just too many talent who are younger and less injury prone that the Celtics could pick to replace him. He should have known better.

Yeah, but maybe it put a hype on him, making noises around the bastketball world and LA take notice of it give him the time to work out with the team and let's see how it goes for IT. For sure he understands that he is no longer in his prime, can't make any more demand specially after he gets injured. Probably trying to salvage his career and could be his last chance. But I still remember when IT was still at his best in Celtics, unbelievable to see his plays during that time.

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Quote from: redhack on August 25, 2021, 05:06:38 PM

Quote from: dwyane36 on August 25, 2021, 02:49:56 PM

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Why is he still free agent anyway? Normally teams should get in line to sign him. Something's wrong here. Huh

Obviously

81 points is good but that's still not the NBA. It all went down for him because of the injury and the way he or his agent handled the contract negotiation with the Celtics. I don't blame him for making demands but there's just too many talent who are younger and less injury prone that the Celtics could pick to replace him. He should have known better.

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Quote from: harizen on August 25, 2021, 06:58:04 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 25, 2021, 04:56:50 PM

His stats have dropped because he is only playing with limited minutes, unlike the time when he was still with the Boston Celtics where he is part of the starters, actually a star in the team.

That's the reason why IT is not a valuable player now to consider by other teams. Even he will be signed by the Lakers, I doubt he can give any impact on them. He will still have that limited minutes. Take the example of Dwight Howard, he only played a minimal time a couple of seasons ago with the Lakers even he's still active and can be dominant in the paint. That's the Lakers system.

Yes, IT to be a role player if ever he signs with the Lakers, probably a good 10-15 minutes per game if extended or he plays that good scoring 10+ or more given his time.

Quote from: harizen on August 25, 2021, 06:58:04 PM

No offense for IT fans but don't expect him to explode if he is signed by the Lakers. It will be just a normal veteran signing. No big deal.

One year veteran contract, I think it's still good for IT, at least being back in the NBA, another opportunity for him to earn that contract and hopefully a chance to be a NBA champions with the Lakers.

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Quote from: harizen on August 25, 2021, 06:58:04 PM

No offense for IT fans but don't expect him to explode if he is signed by the Lakers. It will be just a normal veteran signing. No big deal.

I agree, but he could be a good floor spacer if they need one and Lakers are signing in short contract deals so I guess that's the reason why he floated in the conversation. He is not that good anymore but he ain't also that bad.
He was also hyped because of this. LOOK: Isaiah Thomas scores 81 points at Crawsover Pro-Am game

Quote from: chaser15 on August 25, 2021, 10:21:41 AM

I'm wondering why are the Lakers only limiting their options to these 2 players? They can offer a trade for someone else or try to get a good player in the free agency right?

Yes. I think this is the media and the fans adding more fuel to the rumors from the work out with Lebron and WB.
https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lakers-worked-isaiah-thomas-144023614.html
Let's see what the Lakers will really do but I really doubt about taking a risk trading some of their players for Patrick Beverley.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 25, 2021, 04:56:50 PM

His stats have dropped because he is only playing with limited minutes, unlike the time when he was still with the Boston Celtics where he is part of the starters, actually a star in the team.

That's the reason why IT is not a valuable player now to consider by other teams. Even he will be signed by the Lakers, I doubt he can give any impact on them. He will still have that limited minutes. Take the example of Dwight Howard, he only played a minimal time a couple of seasons ago with the Lakers even he's still active and can be dominant in the paint. That's the Lakers system.

No offense for IT fans but don't expect him to explode if he is signed by the Lakers. It will be just a normal veteran signing. No big deal.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 25, 2021, 04:14:02 PM

Based on his stats, I think he cannot do it anymore in the NBA in a normal game.

In his last season playing with the Pelicans, his scoring is down to single-digit average only.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomais02.html

IMO, that doesn't look good but I know his impact on the floor is huge as a 2nd unit, only if another team will sign him again.

Of course, Thomas won't be able to perform as well as he did in the Celtics, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is still capable of scoring 10-12 points per game. Also, I think his low stats for the previous season don't matter because he played only three games for the Pelicans.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on August 25, 2021, 02:49:56 PM

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Why is he still free agent anyway? Normally teams should get in line to sign him. Something's wrong here. Huh

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 25, 2021, 04:14:02 PM

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One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Based on his stats, I think he cannot do it anymore in the NBA in a normal game.

In his last season playing with the Pelicans, his scoring is down to single-digit average only.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomais02.html

IMO, that doesn't look good but I know his impact on the floor is huge as a 2nd unit, only if another team will sign him again.

His stats have dropped because he is only playing with limited minutes, unlike the time when he was still with the Boston Celtics where he is part of the starters, actually a star in the team. However, I believe there's still a lot he can offer to the NBA, so any team would get him would have a chance to use his skills and benefit from his expereince, the Lakers is a good fit for him and hopefully Bron will give him an opportunity to play with him.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 25, 2021, 01:20:15 PM

One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

Based on his stats, I think he cannot do it anymore in the NBA in a normal game.

In his last season playing with the Pelicans, his scoring is down to single-digit average only.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/thomais02.html

IMO, that doesn't look good but I know his impact on the floor is huge as a 2nd unit, only if another team will sign him again.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 25, 2021, 01:20:15 PM

One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

His main goal at the moment is to return to the NBA. So I think Thomas will be happy even if the Lakers or any other teams offer him a 1-year contract with a minimum salary. By the way, it seems that IT is still a good scorer, considering that he was able to score 81 points in a pro-am league game a couple of weeks ago.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 25, 2021, 01:20:15 PM

One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

He can give some quality minutes indeed, as a player it's a pleasure to come back and do what you really loves doing in your life, Thomas is a baller and he will appreciate whatever comes up from the Lakers just to give him another shot playing to this league.

And like what you have said, one year veteran contract is better than nothing at all.

With the Lakers, the recognitions coming from the fans might grow again knowing that he once a star before those injures and the death of he's siblings who really affected him inside.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 25, 2021, 09:50:30 AM

I think if they will choose they should go for IT. They badly need a shooter and IT could provide. I just don't know if James will like the idea because he didn't look pleased with him when they signed him at Cavs to play with him. The chemistry is not there and it's so bad they are like two players playing in different teams.
Let Beverley stay with the Wolves, they need a veteran there to help KAT and DLo.

Isaiah Thomas is just a literal backup now. Not a shooter or playmaker anymore. His skill and talent before are now gone even during back when he is on Cleveland Cavaliers. Pat Beverly is much good but I don't think he and Lebron will make chemistry. This guy is like Dennis Schroder.

I'm wondering why are the Lakers only limiting their options to these 2 players? They can offer a trade for someone else or try to get a good player in the free agency right?

One reason I can think of is that they can offer IT a one year veteran salary just like what they offered to others. If IT bite then it's good for the Lakers are they can work it out within their budget. And there's not much left players to trade, they have overhauled their roster already.

Yeah, I agree that he is no longer the same IT when he was traded to Cleveland because of so many injuries. But the guy can score easily every game and can give quality minutes while in the floor, if some of the Lakers stars are resting.

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Quote from: Lordshiva on August 25, 2021, 06:07:38 AM

Without any doubt PatBev is not a better player that IT. IT in is own is a one of the good players going around but he had some bad luck as well with those injuries and family problems. But it would be just a matter of time for him to come back in form after a couple of matches.

Yes he's good before but do he still brought that talent now? We know talents fades over the years specially if he didn't play competitive basket ball for quite long time compare to Beverly where he is still active in the League, Although Beverly is not a scorer but for sure he will get into the nerves of the players since his main talent is hustle and defense which is unique for a point guard.

I do believe that IT still has "some" talent left, I do not think that he is the same guy as he was on Celtics of course (which I agree was a horrible move) but that doesn't change the fact that he is still better than PatBev, that is the discussion here. If we were to compare which one I would get to Lakers if I had that power?

I would get IT in a heartbeat, I wouldn't get PatBev, plus Lakers locker room is filled with people who are both friends and very charming people who are always loving and having fun and laughing, with the addition of PatBev that will be ruining everything, dude is just out there looking for a fight and keeps on annoying people, I do not think that Lakers need a fighter, that would ruin the chemistry of the team, so I literally would prefer not getting anyone, instead of getting PatBev, he is a net negative when all things considered.

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