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June 14, 2021, 09:34:23 PM
Phoenix Suns is already a good team but they don't have a legitimate point guard.
Sorry, but I didn't understand you, why do you think CP3 is not a legitimate PG?
In my opinion he is a legitimate point guard and he played practically his entire life as PG

You won't understand it because you cut the paragraph. Here, I'll help you out and will put it in "bold".
Phoenix Suns is already a good team but they don't have a legitimate point guard. With Chris Paul on board, he successfully managed to extract what's more to his teammates. There's not much revamp in the Phoenix Suns roster this season. It's just that, there's a guy out there that boosts Phoenix Sun's overall capability and that's Chris Paul.
CP3 made a big difference just like what he did with OKC. They became a shitty team trading a lot of star players that time including Westbrook.
When CP3 arrived they still managed to play in the playoffs even if he just came in. He can lead, he can score and I think he is the best pointguard out there.
Playmaking it's CP3, shooting guard it's Steph for me.

Hawks win, Embiid might be feeling his injury now. It won't be long and they are going to sit him down for longer minutes.
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June 14, 2021, 08:58:02 PM
And actually, this is his best chance because he is playing with the young players and he is well respected in this team. Booker is no doubt is their best player but you can see the respect to CP3, if he will handle the ball, they just follow the play because Paul will not disappoint them.

Also, Booker is the type of player who wants to win a championship, his team sucks in the previous seasons but he never left the Suns to team up with another superstar, he just waited until someone comes and it did happen.
Yes, sure! I think this combination with CP3, Ayton and Booker was perfect.
They managed to unite, CP3 experience, youthful and energy of others players

John Wall, Westbrook, and Morant are not even on the same level as Chris Paul in terms of basketball IQ.

Phoenix Suns is already a good team but they don't have a legitimate point guard. With Chris Paul on board, he successfully managed to extract what's more to his teammates. There's not much revamp in the Phoenix Suns roster this season. It's just that, there's a guy out there that boosts Phoenix Sun's overall capability and that's Chris Paul.

Although I'm not rooting for the Phoenix Suns to win this year's Larry O'Brien Championship, I want him to have a ring before he retires. A ring that is a product of his effort.
CP3 has a high IQ in basketball, he is technical and experienced.
I would like the Suns can get this season.

Phoenix Suns is already a good team but they don't have a legitimate point guard.
Sorry, but I didn't understand you, why do you think CP3 is not a legitimate PG?
In my opinion he is a legitimate point guard and he played practically his entire life as PG


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June 14, 2021, 08:01:59 PM
Sixers leading the Hawks at halftime, although they've cut the lead 13, it ballooned to 18, thanks to their good shooting in the last 5 minutes. Trae Young only scored 8 points in the first 2 quarters as Simmons is playing good defense on him. Seth Curry is also waxing hot in 3. They don't have answers to Joel Embiid except doubling him up if he touches the ball. But his fade away is clicking. Let's see if Hawks can turn things around in 3rd.
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June 14, 2021, 06:59:10 PM
It is a closeout game and they let Jokic get ejected just because of that play. I know that the foul is a little bit reckless but giving him a Flagrant 2 for a close out game?? The refs are very soft right now making this league very soft. Small bumps leading to fouls and even ejections. It must be a Flagrant 1 only but.. it is what it is. Its over already.

Agree. They have a chance to win the game and extend the series although I still see the Suns will win in the series.

But at least, a supposed good exit to Jokic as an MVP and not thru ejection which is rare to happen in his career. He wasn't able to play until the end so I feel he is frustrated with what happened.

Referees spoil the game. Even there's no question that Suns still will win on that game even Jokic wasn't ejected, at least we see him until the end.
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June 14, 2021, 06:39:23 PM
Refs owned the broom so they decided to sweep it.  Grin Eject Jokic with flagrant 2? Wow! It's like killing the Nuggets team. I stopped watching after that. Kind of like a scripted scenery.
Flagrant 2 was a bit harsh and it was 1 at worse but to imply the game was rigged by the refs was uncalled for. Nuggets were already down at that point and Jokic was too careless. What was he thinking swinging down his arm like that?
It is a closeout game and they let Jokic get ejected just because of that play. I know that the foul is a little bit reckless but giving him a Flagrant 2 for a close out game?? The refs are very soft right now making this league very soft. Small bumps leading to fouls and even ejections. It must be a Flagrant 1 only but.. it is what it is. Its over already.

Will the Suns have a chance of beating the Clippers or Jazz?
Yes unelss CP3 gets injured.
Lets take note that CP3 suffered a shoulder injury in the First Round against the Lakers. So far the Suns are in a 7 win streak and this is CP3 healthy. If the Point God suffered this injury again against the winner of Jazz/Clippers then they will be in a huge trouble.

With the performance of Suns in the 2nd round, I'm thinking too that they have a chance of beating the Jazz not unless CP3 will be re-injured which is I hope not.
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June 14, 2021, 05:10:58 PM
Yes, I also agree, CP3 is another type of player, he is very technical and experienced.
Currently he is not an All Star player, he is not explosive or fast like Wall, Westbrook or Ja Morant, but he is an experienced and quality player. Teaming CP3 with Booker and Ayton is a perfect combination, another point we can remember... CP3 will do anything to get his NBA champion ring before retiring.

John Wall, Westbrook, and Morant are not even on the same level as Chris Paul in terms of basketball IQ.

Phoenix Suns is already a good team but they don't have a legitimate point guard. With Chris Paul on board, he successfully managed to extract what's more to his teammates. There's not much revamp in the Phoenix Suns roster this season. It's just that, there's a guy out there that boosts Phoenix Sun's overall capability and that's Chris Paul.

Although I'm not rooting for the Phoenix Suns to win this year's Larry O'Brien Championship, I want him to have a ring before he retires. A ring that is a product of his effort.

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June 14, 2021, 04:46:42 PM
CP3 is a different type of player, he is seriously at Lebron level at this moment and people do not realize it. Lebron is known as a player who carried a team of nobodies into finals for years at cavs and he was seen as a player who if you get him you could have a huge team that can fight for a title, Lakers got him and after the injury ridden first season he won a ring and this year they went up and got injured once again.

This is why CP3 is similar, wherever he went he played such a great way that he allowed the teams he was on making to playoffs and after that usually he end up not doing that well and lost in the playoffs after CP3 got injured, that is his only downside and so far this season he wasn't injured at all and that is the great thing about him this season. If it is Utah vs Suns that will be a western conference final nobody saw coming before the season started.
Yes, I also agree, CP3 is another type of player, he is very technical and experienced.
Currently he is not an All Star player, he is not explosive or fast like Wall, Westbrook or Ja Morant, but he is an experienced and quality player. Teaming CP3 with Booker and Ayton is a perfect combination, another point we can remember... CP3 will do anything to get his NBA champion ring before retiring.

And actually, this is his best chance because he is playing with the young players and he is well respected in this team. Booker is no doubt is their best player but you can see the respect to CP3, if he will handle the ball, they just follow the play because Paul will not disappoint them.

Also, Booker is the type of player who wants to win a championship, his team sucks in the previous seasons but he never left the Suns to team up with another superstar, he just waited until someone comes and it did happen.
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June 14, 2021, 04:40:47 PM
I think the call was just fair, Jokic was supposed to be a cool guy but he was really frustrated in that last sequence before he hit payne in the arms to foul.
There was an intention to hurt, I must say, so it was ruled as flagrant 2 which means ejected.

Disagree here. There's no malicious intent on that play and Flagrant 2 is too much. And even a cool guy can lose his cool as there's a thing that triggers it. Even some NBA stars disagree with the call.

If you were able to watch the game, there are lots of supposed calls that not called and maybe that's the reason why Jokic is frustrated. He's muscling everyone on the paint as much as he can but mostly didn't able to draw a foul even there's an obvious foul. They are aggressively making a rally so that ejection is a big surprise.
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June 14, 2021, 02:49:01 PM
CP3 is a different type of player, he is seriously at Lebron level at this moment and people do not realize it. Lebron is known as a player who carried a team of nobodies into finals for years at cavs and he was seen as a player who if you get him you could have a huge team that can fight for a title, Lakers got him and after the injury ridden first season he won a ring and this year they went up and got injured once again.

This is why CP3 is similar, wherever he went he played such a great way that he allowed the teams he was on making to playoffs and after that usually he end up not doing that well and lost in the playoffs after CP3 got injured, that is his only downside and so far this season he wasn't injured at all and that is the great thing about him this season. If it is Utah vs Suns that will be a western conference final nobody saw coming before the season started.
Yes, I also agree, CP3 is another type of player, he is very technical and experienced.
Currently he is not an All Star player, he is not explosive or fast like Wall, Westbrook or Ja Morant, but he is an experienced and quality player. Teaming CP3 with Booker and Ayton is a perfect combination, another point we can remember... CP3 will do anything to get his NBA champion ring before retiring.
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June 14, 2021, 02:44:30 PM
Philadelphia should be able to win the next game which will probably be a tough one, maybe to be decided at the last minute. The gap in the final score will probably be less than seven points.
The feeling is that the Sixers defense has risen in level and has now understood where to intervene to dirty the Hawks' shooting percentages, which offensively limit the damage with the usual Trae Young. The point guard is winning the comparison with Simmons, but it is also true that the Australian is growing game after game.
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June 14, 2021, 02:04:53 PM
CP3 is a different type of player, he is seriously at Lebron level at this moment and people do not realize it. Lebron is known as a player who carried a team of nobodies into finals for years at cavs and he was seen as a player who if you get him you could have a huge team that can fight for a title, Lakers got him and after the injury ridden first season he won a ring and this year they went up and got injured once again.

This is why CP3 is similar, wherever he went he played such a great way that he allowed the teams he was on making to playoffs and after that usually he end up not doing that well and lost in the playoffs after CP3 got injured, that is his only downside and so far this season he wasn't injured at all and that is the great thing about him this season. If it is Utah vs Suns that will be a western conference final nobody saw coming before the season started.
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June 14, 2021, 02:03:56 PM
They have. Those surprising beating that they've made are enough to remove our doubts with them. They've proved themselves enough and that's why I don't have my doubts with them anymore beating two good teams and I think they'll be giving any of those teams a hard time to win against them. A surprising sweep that they've made against Nuggest with the MVP on that team. Well, this is really surprising but they've just shown everyone what they can do and what we can expect with them. Whilst the other teams, Brooklyn and Bucks, they're now tied with a standing of 2-2.
The Suns performed well in regular season, with an approximate 70% victory.
Phoenix hasn't had that performance for years, and as the squad is strong, I think the Suns have a good chance of winning the WCF.
If the Clippers vs Jazz will play 7 games, the Suns will benefit greatly, as their team will be rested and their future opponent will be "a little exhausted" as they had to play 7 games.

For the East, I think Bucks or Nets are more prepared for the finals. Although 76ers or Hawks are excellent opponents.
But I believe the Nets can be the ECF champions, but for that happen Harden or Irving need to come back to help Durant and others players!
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June 14, 2021, 01:27:24 PM


I recently saw that Bucks defeated Nets to tie the series. I'm so close to win my parlay. I never thought that Bucks will get the momentum of this series and Nets is now struggling to control bucks especially Giannis. Most of the first 5 of nets is not performing well since game 3. Game 5 will be do or die for nets.

The nets could have given the Bucks a good game if Irving was not injured, after he had a bad fall in the 2nd quarter, everything change in favor of the Bucks. We don't know the status of Irving yet but hopefully, Harden will come back in game 5 as that's a very important game for them.

Crucial game and crucial decision for the Nets team. They needed either Harden or Irving to play next game because their chances are slim against the Bucks, which has all the momentum right now. Durant can't do it alone, Joe Harris and Blake Griffin are not providing any scoring help in the last 2 games. And the betting public knows that as the line might open as Bucks being the favourite game 5.

Joe Harris can't score well without a good point guard, he was only effective to the team because he has a lot of open looks, but without Irving and Harden, that would be difficult for the Nets. The inside game is dominated by the Bucks,  if Nets are not shooting well in the outside, then for sure Bucks would kill them in the boards and outside shooting.
That's one thing that goes against Joe Harris, yes he is the highest shooting percentage player, but he can't create his shot. He needs someone like Irving and Harden and a good screen to free him up. So in the first 2 games, the Nets did that exactly, so they didn't missed the services of Harden.

But now that they have lost 2 games in a row and probably Irving, I would say that maybe the Nets are in the panic mode right now. Probably they will see how game 5 will look like. If Irving didn't play and they lose, they there's no choice but either allow Irving to play even if he is not 100%.

Yeah Nets bowing out in the second round is not why they picked up these 3.  Shame they all can't stay on the court together because they would run almost any team off the court.  Kevin might be able to actually pull them through but if Harden and Kylie can't get back to normal they won't go to far that's for sure.
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June 14, 2021, 12:47:52 PM


I recently saw that Bucks defeated Nets to tie the series. I'm so close to win my parlay. I never thought that Bucks will get the momentum of this series and Nets is now struggling to control bucks especially Giannis. Most of the first 5 of nets is not performing well since game 3. Game 5 will be do or die for nets.

The nets could have given the Bucks a good game if Irving was not injured, after he had a bad fall in the 2nd quarter, everything change in favor of the Bucks. We don't know the status of Irving yet but hopefully, Harden will come back in game 5 as that's a very important game for them.

Crucial game and crucial decision for the Nets team. They needed either Harden or Irving to play next game because their chances are slim against the Bucks, which has all the momentum right now. Durant can't do it alone, Joe Harris and Blake Griffin are not providing any scoring help in the last 2 games. And the betting public knows that as the line might open as Bucks being the favourite game 5.

Joe Harris can't score well without a good point guard, he was only effective to the team because he has a lot of open looks, but without Irving and Harden, that would be difficult for the Nets. The inside game is dominated by the Bucks,  if Nets are not shooting well in the outside, then for sure Bucks would kill them in the boards and outside shooting.
That's one thing that goes against Joe Harris, yes he is the highest shooting percentage player, but he can't create his shot. He needs someone like Irving and Harden and a good screen to free him up. So in the first 2 games, the Nets did that exactly, so they didn't missed the services of Harden.

But now that they have lost 2 games in a row and probably Irving, I would say that maybe the Nets are in the panic mode right now. Probably they will see how game 5 will look like. If Irving didn't play and they lose, they there's no choice but either allow Irving to play even if he is not 100%.
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June 14, 2021, 10:58:36 AM

CP3 is very vital, he is 36 years old but he is still playing like his normal average, give the ball to him and he'll produce for the team.
However, maybe the defense could be more intense on him if the suns will face the Clippers as they have Beverly and other guys to defend him.
He (CP3) once again  playing in WCF, if his injuries permits him to keep playing and he's teammates continue to let him direct the game.
Sun have a good chance to win whoever they've met in the WCF finals, both have good defenders from Clippers, PG and Kawhai
while from The Jazz, Conley and Bojan or O'Neale  or even Mitchell can do the task.

Let's wait if whoever win the  series from the other side and see if how CP3 and Booker will take the next challenge.
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June 14, 2021, 09:36:41 AM
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Out of frustrations but looking from those replays, aside from that huge force that he put on it what we see are all ball,
 it should not be that harsh, they can sit him for 5 mins but not to send him out for the rest of the game,  

Nuggets is on the run before that flagrant and without their leading scorer to tower them up, the chance to recover from huge
lead is no longer possible.

Better luck next season, they already have a solid squad when Murray start playing with them. Rest for now Nuggets !
That was a hard swing from a bigger guy. It doesn't matter if it was all ball after hitting the man's face hehe. The "out of frustration" is what's puzzling me since they were only down by 8 points and it was only the third quarter.

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However, maybe the defense could be more intense on him if the suns will face the Clippers as they have Beverly and other guys to defend him.
The screens set up at the 3-point line or beyond that is working well for CP3. It allows him to drive and drop 2 from his favorite spots. Their next opponent has to be quick to switch but I can see an alley-oop if CP3 is well guarded from that play hehe.
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June 14, 2021, 09:17:18 AM
Refs owned the broom so they decided to sweep it.  Grin Eject Jokic with flagrant 2? Wow! It's like killing the Nuggets team. I stopped watching after that. Kind of like a scripted scenery.
Flagrant 2 was a bit harsh and it was 1 at worse but to imply the game was rigged by the refs was uncalled for. Nuggets were already down at that point and Jokic was too careless. What was he thinking swinging down his arm like that?
I think the call was just fair, Jokic was supposed to be a cool guy but he was really frustrated in that last sequence before he hit payne in the arms to foul.
There was an intention to hurt, I must say, so it was ruled as flagrant 2 which means ejected.

Will the Suns have a chance of beating the Clippers or Jazz?
Yes unless CP3 gets injured.
CP3 is very vital, he is 36 years old but he is still playing like his normal average, give the ball to him and he'll produce for the team.
However, maybe the defense could be more intense on him if the suns will face the Clippers as they have Beverly and other guys to defend him.
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June 14, 2021, 09:09:29 AM
Refs owned the broom so they decided to sweep it.  Grin Eject Jokic with flagrant 2? Wow! It's like killing the Nuggets team. I stopped watching after that. Kind of like a scripted scenery.
Flagrant 2 was a bit harsh and it was 1 at worse but to imply the game was rigged by the refs was uncalled for. Nuggets were already down at that point and Jokic was too careless. What was he thinking swinging down his arm like that?


Out of frustrations but looking from those replays, aside from that huge force that he put on it what we see are all ball,
 it should not be that harsh, they can sit him for 5 mins but not to send him out for the rest of the game,  

Nuggets is on the run before that flagrant and without their leading scorer to tower them up, the chance to recover from huge
lead is no longer possible.

Better luck next season, they already have a solid squad when Murray start playing with them. Rest for now Nuggets !
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June 14, 2021, 09:08:24 AM
Clippers should win this if they still want to catch up with Jazz in this series and thankfully they made it. Now they need to keep their nice strategy to give Jazz a hard battle.
No worries.

Clippers have won the third game. Standing is now 1-2 still in favor of Jazz. The next game is on Tuesday and we're going to see if they're going to tie the standing or Jazz will win the fourth game.
I am a little worried about Mitchell though. He went out with an ice pack in his foot and he might have hurt his ankle again.
He signs okay in the direction where I think his friends and family are sitting but who knows after the doctors check it.

It had been a good game because he was back even though Conley is still out.
Jordan Clarkson and Royce O'neale might not be enough to face the scoring capability of the Clippers. They really need "The Spider" to be back 100% like Games 1 & 2.
We're going to see it tomorrow.

I hope that everything's back in shape and both teams are going to have the full potential for each of their roster. Mitchell's foot probably is fine already and as what I've read.

He's ready for tomorrow's game.
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June 14, 2021, 08:36:37 AM
Refs owned the broom so they decided to sweep it.  Grin Eject Jokic with flagrant 2? Wow! It's like killing the Nuggets team. I stopped watching after that. Kind of like a scripted scenery.
Flagrant 2 was a bit harsh and it was 1 at worse but to imply the game was rigged by the refs was uncalled for. Nuggets were already down at that point and Jokic was too careless. What was he thinking swinging down his arm like that?

Will the Suns have a chance of beating the Clippers or Jazz?
Yes unelss CP3 gets injured.
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