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May 21, 2021, 09:02:05 AM
I like the conversation here, I can feel the playoffs already, fans from different teams are giving their honest opinion. You guys rock, I love to see more Suns fans here, it's just Lakers all the time, how about seeing an upset this season?

Wait, can we call that an upset if Suns will win? hmmm.... do you know what it's called guys?
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May 21, 2021, 08:44:53 AM
So you think that being the defending champion automatically makes you the better team? If you want let's have a fun between us. 500 usd that Suns will eliminate Lakers?

Absolutely yes!
"DEFENDING CHAMPION"  that means you're currently better than any team in the league. Basic initiative, how could a team became a Champion If the other team is better than them?
I know, there's a lot of changes with the current roster, but again If you're not aware the Lakers were not healthy the whole season.  
If you want to check all the sportsbook, majority of them will have the same odds. And that means, I am not the only person who thinks that
"being the defending champion automatically makes you the better team?"
Ok?  Cheesy

Bet your $500 in any reliable sportsbook, since you're a newbie I don't trust you that much in terms of personal betting.
Peace out!
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May 21, 2021, 08:30:51 AM

Suns will be overwhelmed by the lakers for sure, Ayton is will play only his first playoffs, the only player with playoffs experience so far is paul, and if LeBron will guard paul it will be the end of it, the only player that brings the team to playoffs is pauls experience and leadership so if they lock the leader they will fall in the lakers hand.

Lebron will never guard Chris Paul, lots of players that the Suns will score if Paul will not, and Paul is a great passer, he can still make a play without scoring. Let's take a look at the Suns roster.

https://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/phx/phoenix-suns

These are young players, except Paul, so even if they don't have the experience of a playoff, I'm sure they will give their best to win against the Lakers. In addition, it would be a shame for Monty Willams who recently won the Coach of the year award to have an early exit. Both team's reputation are on the line actually.
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May 21, 2021, 08:21:41 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.

The Suns will definitely give the Lakers a harder time to win than the Warriors as they are more complete. The backcourt duo of Paul and Booker alone will give Lebron headaches  Smiley. But i think the Lakers are ready for them and they will use their size against the Suns so i'm betting them on ML. Have observed that almost all of the favorites won in this play-in so i think betting against it is a bad idea.


I heard that this is the first game in NBA history betting where a team coming from 6h position in favorite to beat them team from 2nd position but let's be honest and admit that Lakers were down so much lately just because Ad and Lebron did not play so starting as favorites for bookies it's the right decision. However, don't think that Lakers will have an easy game because they will certainly not ...imagine being Suns and dominate pretty much all the season and then losing to Lakers without a proper fight ?  I think Suns will push Lakers so hard that they will empty their gas tank.

Lakers would not be the favorite here if they did not start being the number 1 team. We all know that Lakers only struggle because of the injury of Lebron and Davis, but they are back healthy now, so the expectation is now high for the team. Let the Suns prove us wrong, if they really are a legit team, they have to beat the Lakers in this series.
Suns will be overwhelmed by the lakers for sure, Ayton is will play only his first playoffs, the only player with playoffs experience so far is paul, and if LeBron will guard paul it will be the end of it, the only player that brings the team to playoffs is pauls experience and leadership so if they lock the leader they will fall in the lakers hand.
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May 21, 2021, 08:18:10 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.

The Suns will definitely give the Lakers a harder time to win than the Warriors as they are more complete. The backcourt duo of Paul and Booker alone will give Lebron headaches  Smiley. But i think the Lakers are ready for them and they will use their size against the Suns so i'm betting them on ML. Have observed that almost all of the favorites won in this play-in so i think betting against it is a bad idea.

I agree phoenix suns have been amazing this season and done some great results for the first time in so many years
while the lakers were most of this season with james and AD mostly injured during this season
So will be a really hard match
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May 21, 2021, 08:12:53 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.

The Suns will definitely give the Lakers a harder time to win than the Warriors as they are more complete. The backcourt duo of Paul and Booker alone will give Lebron headaches  Smiley. But i think the Lakers are ready for them and they will use their size against the Suns so i'm betting them on ML. Have observed that almost all of the favorites won in this play-in so i think betting against it is a bad idea.


I heard that this is the first game in NBA history betting where a team coming from 6h position in favorite to beat them team from 2nd position but let's be honest and admit that Lakers were down so much lately just because Ad and Lebron did not play so starting as favorites for bookies it's the right decision. However, don't think that Lakers will have an easy game because they will certainly not ...imagine being Suns and dominate pretty much all the season and then losing to Lakers without a proper fight ?  I think Suns will push Lakers so hard that they will empty their gas tank.

Ohh, that is interesting to note.

I completely agree that the Suns will give the Lakers a hard time plus the fact that Lebron James and AD were coming from an injury so they are not yet 100 percent healthy. The problem for us bettors is to know when to bet for the Suns as they will not be swept or what strategy to use so after their series we can say that we are still profitable.

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May 21, 2021, 07:50:19 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.

The Suns will definitely give the Lakers a harder time to win than the Warriors as they are more complete. The backcourt duo of Paul and Booker alone will give Lebron headaches  Smiley. But i think the Lakers are ready for them and they will use their size against the Suns so i'm betting them on ML. Have observed that almost all of the favorites won in this play-in so i think betting against it is a bad idea.


I heard that this is the first game in NBA history betting where a team coming from 6h position in favorite to beat them team from 2nd position but let's be honest and admit that Lakers were down so much lately just because Ad and Lebron did not play so starting as favorites for bookies it's the right decision. However, don't think that Lakers will have an easy game because they will certainly not ...imagine being Suns and dominate pretty much all the season and then losing to Lakers without a proper fight ?  I think Suns will push Lakers so hard that they will empty their gas tank.

Lakers would not be the favorite here if they did not start being the number 1 team. We all know that Lakers only struggle because of the injury of Lebron and Davis, but they are back healthy now, so the expectation is now high for the team. Let the Suns prove us wrong, if they really are a legit team, they have to beat the Lakers in this series.
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May 21, 2021, 07:47:19 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.

The Suns will definitely give the Lakers a harder time to win than the Warriors as they are more complete. The backcourt duo of Paul and Booker alone will give Lebron headaches  Smiley. But i think the Lakers are ready for them and they will use their size against the Suns so i'm betting them on ML. Have observed that almost all of the favorites won in this play-in so i think betting against it is a bad idea.


I heard that this is the first game in NBA history betting where a team coming from 6h position in favorite to beat them team from 2nd position but let's be honest and admit that Lakers were down so much lately just because Ad and Lebron did not play so starting as favorites for bookies it's the right decision. However, don't think that Lakers will have an easy game because they will certainly not ...imagine being Suns and dominate pretty much all the season and then losing to Lakers without a proper fight ?  I think Suns will push Lakers so hard that they will empty their gas tank.
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May 21, 2021, 07:35:39 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.

The Suns will definitely give the Lakers a harder time to win than the Warriors as they are more complete. The backcourt duo of Paul and Booker alone will give Lebron headaches  Smiley. But i think the Lakers are ready for them and they will use their size against the Suns so i'm betting them on ML. Have observed that almost all of the favorites won in this play-in so i think betting against it is a bad idea.
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May 21, 2021, 06:58:22 AM
The Washington Wizards left no illusions about which team is in better form at the moment. In the first half, they slowly built their advantage, and in the third quarter they closed the game. 48 points scored in one quarter and almost 60% FG in the whole match is really impressive. However, in the competition Wizards vs 76ers, I do not give any chances to the team from the US capital. The defense of Philadelphia is a completely different level than the Pacers.

You are correct that Sixers is the better team, however, all the 3 games played last season were all a high-scoring game.
Sixers won all the games, by the way, so we should not be surprised why Sixers is currently at -7 in game 1.. the expectation is so high for the Sixers.

Westbrook might struggle against the defenders of the Sixers, Danny Green alone is already a great defender, so he will be limited.
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May 21, 2021, 06:48:19 AM
The Washington Wizards left no illusions about which team is in better form at the moment. In the first half, they slowly built their advantage, and in the third quarter they closed the game. 48 points scored in one quarter and almost 60% FG in the whole match is really impressive. However, in the competition Wizards vs 76ers, I do not give any chances to the team from the US capital. The defense of Philadelphia is a completely different level than the Pacers.
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May 21, 2021, 06:14:47 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.
Yes, Lakers will be a tough match up for everyone in the West because of the experience and now that they are complete, maybe not healthy but at least they have Lebron back again. Booker will be the key for the Suns, he need to produce big numbers, but for sure they will contest every shot of his. I'm thinking that Lakers might assign Kuzma or Wes Matthews and then rotation of Caruso and KCP. So let's see how game 1 will turn out to be, this is a game of adjustments.
I hope the Suns will prove us wrong, I hope they will win and upset the Lakers. I like the Lakers but it's nice to see some new faces in the playoffs. Either Suns, Jazz, and Nuggets, they will be a good matchup against the winner in the East.

If the Lakers will lose in this series, they will be in the history that made an early exit, and it will be on Lebron's history as well.
I know you guys are optimistic but hopefully, we also see how good the Suns played in the regular season.
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May 21, 2021, 06:01:54 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.
Yes, Lakers will be a tough match up for everyone in the West because of the experience and now that they are complete, maybe not healthy but at least they have Lebron back again. Booker will be the key for the Suns, he need to produce big numbers, but for sure they will contest every shot of his. I'm thinking that Lakers might assign Kuzma or Wes Matthews and then rotation of Caruso and KCP. So let's see how game 1 will turn out to be, this is a game of adjustments.
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May 21, 2021, 05:21:39 AM
But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.

I agree with you, Lakers might win this series but Suns here will definitely give the Lakers a tough series. What I saw in the Warriors game convince me to bet against the Lakers in game 1 of the Suns vs Lakers series, I like the Suns here before the Lakers will figure out how to beat them.
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May 21, 2021, 04:44:10 AM

If the suns defeat the lakers in the playoffs it will be the biggest upset of all time, the suns need to play their A-game for 7 games to do it, it will be hard since LeBron and AD have a comeback and are really fresh, it's like they take a vacation just to prepare for the playoffs the suns team have made it this far, but facing lebron and the lakers is just an impossible task in my opinion.

I don't call it a big upset as the Suns are the number 2 team while the Lakers are in rank number 7. Besides, Lakers is just a slight favorite here, they are not really big favorites like they were in the past playoffs. This is a big challenge for the Suns but they can win against the current lineup.

We saw how the Lakers struggle against the Lakers, that kind of bad game has no place against the Suns as the Suns will make sure they will play.
In addition, the Suns are hungry and Chris Paul here wants to win a championship.


We can't deny the fact that Suns already improved but playing against a healthy Lakers surely it will be a tough assignment for them.

Booker and CP3 needs to excell from how they play the regular season, they need to extend more. we've seen how LeBron and AD lifted it in  the final quarter from that last game against the Warriors, they still have it, showing that once they really push more harder it change the tempo of the game.

We never know what will happened until we've seen them play against each other and bring the best out from this both teams.

Lakers have players than can match CP3 or Booker and make their lives miserable here, and then Deandre Ayton against Drummond, Harrell and then AD. So in paper it is really a close match up. As Lakers are on the top as a defensive team so this might be a close call.

But Lakers have the experience here, that's there main advantage here. Scratch the regular seasons game, this is play-off so everyone needs to step up and hope we will see a good first round match-up.
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May 21, 2021, 04:03:37 AM
Sixers and Wizards are going to be an interesting series, Westbrook and Embiid have a history between the two.

Who will forget this stare down? Joel dunking on Westbrook while he was still in OKC. ->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S-QdhrCMqs
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May 21, 2021, 02:53:19 AM

If the suns defeat the lakers in the playoffs it will be the biggest upset of all time, the suns need to play their A-game for 7 games to do it, it will be hard since LeBron and AD have a comeback and are really fresh, it's like they take a vacation just to prepare for the playoffs the suns team have made it this far, but facing lebron and the lakers is just an impossible task in my opinion.

I don't call it a big upset as the Suns are the number 2 team while the Lakers are in rank number 7. Besides, Lakers is just a slight favorite here, they are not really big favorites like they were in the past playoffs. This is a big challenge for the Suns but they can win against the current lineup.

We saw how the Lakers struggle against the Lakers, that kind of bad game has no place against the Suns as the Suns will make sure they will play.
In addition, the Suns are hungry and Chris Paul here wants to win a championship.


We can't deny the fact that Suns already improved but playing against a healthy Lakers surely it will be a tough assignment for them.

Booker and CP3 needs to excell from how they play the regular season, they need to extend more. we've seen how LeBron and AD lifted it in  the final quarter from that last game against the Warriors, they still have it, showing that once they really push more harder it change the tempo of the game.

We never know what will happened until we've seen them play against each other and bring the best out from this both teams.
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Indeed.  I don't think many people will be betting on the Suns.  I don't think they have much of a chance at all unless Booker has an amazing shooting night and the rebound gods are shining on DeAndre Ayton.  Otherwise, the Lakers are just too big with too many good shooters, and they happen to have the best player in the world.  I think in the end it will come down to the Suns not having enough talent on the bench or enough size in the starting lineup.

I am hoping Westbrook is able to make it to the playoffs this year with a win today.  Not sure if I'll watch or not because, Indiana...  Pulling for Russ though.

At first i didn't believe you but i just checked it and Lakers are really favorites. Personally I think this is huge bookmakers' mistake and they will lose ton of money.

Can you enlighten us on why the Odds between the Lakers and Suns are a huge mistake? And why the bookmaker will take its toll of lossing tons of money because of this action? How was that possible?
If you're an NBA fan, you won't need to bother yourself checking the odds If it's correct or not because everyone knew who's the real underdogs between the Lakers and Suns.

In case you forget, the Lakers are the defending champs and they just added a strong center in Andre Drummond, the 6th man of the year Harell, and the second nominated as the 6th man of the year Schröder.

You know what's a huge mistake a bookmaker will make? Turning the odds around.  Cheesy

So you think that being the defending champion automatically makes you the better team? If you want let's have a fun between us. 500 usd that Suns will eliminate Lakers?
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May 21, 2021, 01:02:23 AM

If the suns defeat the lakers in the playoffs it will be the biggest upset of all time, the suns need to play their A-game for 7 games to do it, it will be hard since LeBron and AD have a comeback and are really fresh, it's like they take a vacation just to prepare for the playoffs the suns team have made it this far, but facing lebron and the lakers is just an impossible task in my opinion.

I don't call it a big upset as the Suns are the number 2 team while the Lakers are in rank number 7. Besides, Lakers is just a slight favorite here, they are not really big favorites like they were in the past playoffs. This is a big challenge for the Suns but they can win against the current lineup.

We saw how the Lakers struggle against the Lakers, that kind of bad game has no place against the Suns as the Suns will make sure they will play.
In addition, the Suns are hungry and Chris Paul here wants to win a championship.
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May 21, 2021, 12:30:48 AM
Lakers, or any team with Lebron on board is difficult to handle in a series match. Phoenix is doing great this season but I don't see them beating the Lakers in a head-to-head series match. Lakers in 6. Smiley

Well, everyone knew who has the higher chances of winning this series, even the sportsbook knew it.

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The underdogs at the top seed and the favourites at the bottom seed lol.

Indeed.  I don't think many people will be betting on the Suns.  I don't think they have much of a chance at all unless Booker has an amazing shooting night and the rebound gods are shining on DeAndre Ayton.  Otherwise, the Lakers are just too big with too many good shooters, and they happen to have the best player in the world.  I think in the end it will come down to the Suns not having enough talent on the bench or enough size in the starting lineup.

I am hoping Westbrook is able to make it to the playoffs this year with a win today.  Not sure if I'll watch or not because, Indiana...  Pulling for Russ though.
If the suns defeat the lakers in the playoffs it will be the biggest upset of all time, the suns need to play their A-game for 7 games to do it, it will be hard since LeBron and AD have a comeback and are really fresh, it's like they take a vacation just to prepare for the playoffs the suns team have made it this far, but facing lebron and the lakers is just an impossible task in my opinion.
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