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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2020, 03:40:11 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on July 10, 2020, 12:41:36 AM

Thanks @Russlenat, this is a great news, Jokic playing for the playoffs and he is fully healthy, my worries are gone now, this team would really surprise big teams when the playoffs starts.

I think you're not the only one that is worried that Jokic might not play in this play-off, I'm sure there are a lot of fans here and the team itself.

There lots of talks and worries about this star but now everything is clear that he will be joining his team and play one the NBA resumes.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2020, 03:40:11 AM

At least the air has been cleared, although we will see what will be the effect on him reducing so much weight during the pandemic.

It's interesting how he will adjust and how it will benefit the entire team, guessing that he will do more outside attacks types of game like Dirk. Big man who really can do both, attacking inside and shooting outside.

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Quote from: Questat on July 10, 2020, 03:58:45 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2020, 03:40:11 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on July 10, 2020, 12:41:36 AM

Thanks @Russlenat, this is a great news, Jokic playing for the playoffs and he is fully healthy, my worries are gone now, this team would really surprise big teams when the playoffs starts.

I think you're not the only one that is worried that Jokic might not play in this play-off, I'm sure there are a lot of fans here and the team itself. At least the air has been cleared, although we will see what will be the effect on him reducing so much weight during the pandemic.

Hopefully the effect is good because they have been working for that transformation.
Now that he is cleared, we can see him playing back again since he has more time to practice with the team in Orlando.

If he will play limited minutes it's understandable since they already secured the playoff position but if they'll look for a good standing, Jokic better be ready with his full strength and probe those who doubt that they are wrong, including me, lol Grin

There's no need to play hard once regular season resumes, remember, there's no home court advantage, so what for?
Maybe if they want to face a particularly team in the first round, that's where they will either play hard to win or will just pay to deliberately lose the game.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 10, 2020, 03:40:11 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on July 10, 2020, 12:41:36 AM

Thanks @Russlenat, this is a great news, Jokic playing for the playoffs and he is fully healthy, my worries are gone now, this team would really surprise big teams when the playoffs starts.

I think you're not the only one that is worried that Jokic might not play in this play-off, I'm sure there are a lot of fans here and the team itself. At least the air has been cleared, although we will see what will be the effect on him reducing so much weight during the pandemic.

Hopefully the effect is good because they have been working for that transformation.
Now that he is cleared, we can see him playing back again since he has more time to practice with the team in Orlando.

If he will play limited minutes it's understandable since they already secured the playoff position but if they'll look for a good standing, Jokic better be ready with his full strength and probe those who doubt that they are wrong, including me, lol Grin

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 10, 2020, 12:41:36 AM

Thanks @Russlenat, this is a great news, Jokic playing for the playoffs and he is fully healthy, my worries are gone now, this team would really surprise big teams when the playoffs starts.

I think you're not the only one that is worried that Jokic might not play in this play-off, I'm sure there are a lot of fans here and the team itself. At least the air has been cleared, although we will see what will be the effect on him reducing so much weight during the pandemic.

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Quote from: Reid on July 10, 2020, 02:40:29 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on July 10, 2020, 01:23:33 AM

Who do you think should coach the NY Knicks for the team to improve, Jason Kidd or Tom Thibodeau?

article :

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258735/Jason-Kidd-Considered-Most-Serious-Threat-To-Tom-Thibodeau-Getting-Knicks-Head-Coaching-Job

I'll vote for Tom.
I am a Jason Kidd fan but in terms of coaching, Tom Thibodeau is far superior.
The lack of a good roster is the only problem in why he cannot uplift a team.

But, here is also a simple explanation of why he should be chosen.

So he will be back to Chicago Bulls..(hopefully he'll be choosen)

This is a great news for the Bulls fans, AFAIR Tom Thibodeau has done a great job with the Bulls back then, so maybe he can fix the Bulls to be back to become a playoff contender team. I remember the old days, the Derrick Rose era in Bulls and Tom was the head coach that time.

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Quote from: Distinctin on July 10, 2020, 01:23:33 AM

Who do you think should coach the NY Knicks for the team to improve, Jason Kidd or Tom Thibodeau?

article :

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258735/Jason-Kidd-Considered-Most-Serious-Threat-To-Tom-Thibodeau-Getting-Knicks-Head-Coaching-Job

I'll vote for Tom.
I am a Jason Kidd fan but in terms of coaching, Tom Thibodeau is far superior.
The lack of a good roster is the only problem in why he cannot uplift a team.

But, here is also a simple explanation of why he should be chosen.

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Who do you think should coach the NY Knicks for the team to improve, Jason Kidd or Tom Thibodeau?

article :

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/258735/Jason-Kidd-Considered-Most-Serious-Threat-To-Tom-Thibodeau-Getting-Knicks-Head-Coaching-Job

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Thanks @Russlenat, this is a great news, Jokic playing for the playoffs and he is fully healthy, my worries are gone now, this team would really surprise big teams when the playoffs starts.

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Great news for our man Jokic, he is cleared to play and though he did not travel with his teammates but he will be going to orlando.

We are going to see him play when the NBA resume as he is confirmed negative from covid-19.

Nuggets' Nikola Jokic cleared after testing negative for COVID-19, but wasn't on team's flight to Orlando

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1281383027940175872

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To summarize it, it's not about filling the team with shooters and superstars.
It's about hard work.

I think many of us watched The Last Dance.
IMO, it actually portrays how Jordan pushed all his teammates to work harder.
Why? Because he cannot do it all. He knows it, the team knows it, and it fits the style of Phil Jackson.
At the end of the day, they're still a team. It's not about dragging one another down, it's about pushing everyone up to achieve one goal.
The championship.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on July 09, 2020, 04:46:14 PM

Everyone talks about having shooters around players, you should have shooters around Lebron, you should have shooters around simmons, you should have shooters around embiid. Hell even curry has shooters around him and he is a shooter himself! I am sorry but there are not that many shooters in the league that can play defense that well at the same time. For example Danny Green is known as "icyhot" but sometimes he shoots very well and we know he is a great defender, or maybe marcus smart, basically there are some few players that you would have on a championship, you are going to make Kyle Korver or JJ. Reddick your main starter and an important piece to become a champion, could you? Sure if rest of the team is awesome but thats about it.

So all in all, league doesn't have too many klay thompsons, sixers can't get that many shooters around embiied and simmons, JJ was their guy for that but he lacked defense. If someone instead of paying horford that much money, they get Klay one day, that would really make them a championship contender without a doubt, but I do not see Klay leaving warriors anytime soon.

They can developed that, remember Fred VanVleet of toronto he play good defense while helping also with their offense, sixers
have the complete sets of players who can play as their go to guy, it's all about the team systems
and how coaches will design and build good chemistry.
Shooters needs to adjust and create not only space but also a good help depending their assign
opponents, they can't shoot all day long but also needs to be part of the system to play defense.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on July 09, 2020, 04:46:14 PM

So all in all, league doesn't have too many klay thompsons,

They don't need a Klay Thompson type of player to succeed, that's already too much for them given they have already the talent and they just lack few role players. I think it's still easy to find good 3 point shooters as the NBA has already evolved and most players even big man are already training to shoot 3 points.

we can find here the list of good 3 point shooters in the NBA.

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/three-point-field-goal-percentage

Quote from: Captain Corporate on July 09, 2020, 04:46:14 PM

sixers can't get that many shooters around embiied and simmons, JJ was their guy for that but he lacked defense. If someone instead of paying horford that much money, they get Klay one day, that would really make them a championship contender without a doubt, but I do not see Klay leaving warriors anytime soon.

Like I said, they don't need Klay, and there's no way Klay would leave his team, he might just retire as a Warrior as he is loved by the fans, and he already get a maximum salary on this team. He is now one of the top earners in the NBA.

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Everyone talks about having shooters around players, you should have shooters around Lebron, you should have shooters around simmons, you should have shooters around embiid. Hell even curry has shooters around him and he is a shooter himself! I am sorry but there are not that many shooters in the league that can play defense that well at the same time. For example Danny Green is known as "icyhot" but sometimes he shoots very well and we know he is a great defender, or maybe marcus smart, basically there are some few players that you would have on a championship, you are going to make Kyle Korver or JJ. Reddick your main starter and an important piece to become a champion, could you? Sure if rest of the team is awesome but thats about it.

So all in all, league doesn't have too many klay thompsons, sixers can't get that many shooters around embiied and simmons, JJ was their guy for that but he lacked defense. If someone instead of paying horford that much money, they get Klay one day, that would really make them a championship contender without a doubt, but I do not see Klay leaving warriors anytime soon.

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Quote from: ERKO20 on July 09, 2020, 03:52:51 PM

Quote from: Rikafip on July 09, 2020, 03:17:53 PM

Quote from: davinchi on July 09, 2020, 01:05:35 PM

Plus, contrary to what others think I find Ben Simmons not "that" good, everyone acts like a super star but I think he is just a "good" player at max all-star level but not super star level.

Simmons is very good player, but not good fit with Philadelphia 76s, and their current roster. In general, I don;t think that Embiid and him are not good fit, and I don't see them winning NBA championship while playing together and having this type of players around them.

Same goes for Embiid, he would be even better with diferent type of players, 76s need more shooters to spread the floor and give Embiid more room. Hell, in that case maybe Even Simmons and Embiid would work together. But Philadelphia management decided to go different way.

There is something out there. Although they have different positions, the attack model is very similar. Both go to the ring, the 76th would be someone like Trae Young, or Damian Lillard.
But again, here you need to build an attack strategy and not just how to assemble a random team in allstars.

Recently, there was a rumor that Damian Lillard is demanding a trade, maybe he can go with the Philadelphia 76ers, but AFAIR, he only mentioned 2 teams, the LA Lakers and the Knicks. You gave him an idea now, lol.. he could really fit with the 76ers and this team might be a championship contender with him.

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Quote from: Rikafip on July 09, 2020, 03:17:53 PM

Quote from: davinchi on July 09, 2020, 01:05:35 PM

Plus, contrary to what others think I find Ben Simmons not "that" good, everyone acts like a super star but I think he is just a "good" player at max all-star level but not super star level.

Simmons is very good player, but not good fit with Philadelphia 76s, and their current roster. In general, I don;t think that Embiid and him are not good fit, and I don't see them winning NBA championship while playing together and having this type of players around them.

Same goes for Embiid, he would be even better with diferent type of players, 76s need more shooters to spread the floor and give Embiid more room. Hell, in that case maybe Even Simmons and Embiid would work together. But Philadelphia management decided to go different way.

There is something out there. Although they have different positions, the attack model is very similar. Both go to the ring, the 76th would be someone like Trae Young, or Damian Lillard.
But again, here you need to build an attack strategy and not just how to assemble a random team in allstars.

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Quote from: davinchi on July 09, 2020, 01:05:35 PM

Plus, contrary to what others think I find Ben Simmons not "that" good, everyone acts like a super star but I think he is just a "good" player at max all-star level but not super star level.

Simmons is very good player, but not good fit with Philadelphia 76s, and their current roster. In general, I don;t think that Embiid and him are not good fit, and I don't see them winning NBA championship while playing together and having this type of players around them.

Same goes for Embiid, he would be even better with diferent type of players, 76s need more shooters to spread the floor and give Embiid more room. Hell, in that case maybe Even Simmons and Embiid would work together. But Philadelphia management decided to go different way.

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I think Embiid is happy about how the team is going but he is not happy about how much credit he is getting. I think the sensitive part about this situation is that we really do not know who is the "leader" of sixers, it is not easy to become a leader at their young age, usually leaders are 30+ year old super stars (or close age) and I feel like for a young team like sixers there must be some tension about who is leading the locker room.

Now Embiid is a jokester and a funny guy, so I doubt a team filled with older players (usually) would really see him as a leader at all, however Ben Simmons even though young looks a bit more calm headed and that is why I think there could be some clash between them about that spot.

Plus, contrary to what others think I find Ben Simmons not "that" good, everyone acts like a super star but I think he is just a "good" player at max all-star level but not super star level.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 09, 2020, 05:41:44 AM

But if I were for Jamal since he is not getting younger I would have chosen a much better team right now capable of winning a ring. With the current status right now of Nets especially the missing good players they have Irving, Durant, Jordan, Dinwiddie, Chandler and Prince chances is so low for them to caught it.

Indeed.
But there is still hope in this decision.
Next year maybe? Grin

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Quote from: Reid on July 09, 2020, 02:46:47 AM

We can see in that video how a veteran moves like a veteran. Grin

Embiid is good below the rim but if you are against a veteran like Mark who had so much experience including Olympics games then it will be easy for him to stop Embiid.
He needs more experience down there, not just experience in talking so much. Grin

Watching that video, it looks like Embiid was so overrated that anytime can be stop by a good defender.
I don't know if that are other NBA players who called themselves start having an scoreless night, at least not on Lebron, Kobe, and Kawhi.

Proves he is not unstoppable, unlike the other players that you mentioned.
He got skills but I think it is going over his head most of the time.
You can also prove that when you look at how he reacts whenever he did a strong offensive move.

Could he really be that selfish that he wants Simmons out for more attention?
Like what sana54210 said:

Quote from: sana54210 on July 08, 2020, 04:35:21 PM

Do you guys think that Embiid is having some sort of trouble with Ben Simmons? I mean looking at the two things he said, they are both looking like attacks to Simmons. He said the game should run through him and usually we see point guards bringing the ball up yet in today's game anyone can do it, Ben Simmons is known to be the main ball handler and playmaker of that team, maybe Embiid wants to be more like Jokic instead? And the other one is him and Horford basically surrounded by shooters, which we know that Simmons is not one at all, he is one of the worst shooters in the league.

So, when you combine these together, it sounds like maybe Embiid wants to force Simmons out of Sixers and he wants to lead the team himself and dislikes the notion that he has to share that with Simmons instead. What do you think?

I guess we will find out more someday. Maybe in the playoffs, if the game starts to heat up and no one can make an offense.
Someone will just burst out of his bad behavior.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on July 09, 2020, 05:41:44 AM

But if I were for Jamal since he is not getting younger I would have chosen a much better team right now capable of winning a ring. With the current status right now of Nets especially the missing good players they have Irving, Durant, Jordan, Dinwiddie, Chandler and Prince chances is so low for them to caught it.

I think he did not choose a team or no other team that is interested on him as he was a free agent prior to this news.

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/11/15/jamal-crawford-still-waiting-join-team

So this is more like a blessing for him that he was still getting signed by a team that has a playoffs chance and he can still play more games.

His big achievement so far.

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Jamal Crawford has been named Sixth Man of the Year three times in his 19-year career.

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