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January 15, 2020, 12:07:25 PM
Yeah, what Jazz is doing has absolutely nothing to do with Clarkson in the sense that he is not a player that can turn a team from a losing team to a winning team, he is not talented enough for such a change, however at the same time if you bring in a player who is just enough good for a role he could change so much dynamics in a team that they can become a winning team, not because of him but thanks to him kind of situation.

He even has worse shooting in three and free throws so far which means he just hit the "needed" spot and that's about it considering he is not really that great help stat wise. I feel like Ingles is a bigger impact, dude has been on a role and with Conley playing he wasn't getting the ball that frequently but dude is a great PNR player with Gobbert so I would say that probably helped even more.

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January 15, 2020, 11:59:10 AM
There's not much improvement on his stats with the Jazz but at least his contribution has transform into a win for the team, unlike with the Cavaliers.

He has only played 9 games so far in Jazz uniform but he never experience a loss yet, so he is a lucky charm for the team that's why he was give good minutes. His stats here - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01/gamelog/2020/
He's a scoring type of a player even when he's still in the Lakers, his potential is big but after being traded to LeBron lead Cavs and being left behind even he continue to contribute it's ain't noticed as the team keep losing but now with Utah having good playing time and producing the same thing give him credit as the team is winning..
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January 15, 2020, 11:35:51 AM

 Utah just had a very weak streak and thats about it if you ask me, sometimes teams do go on a run like this when they have a very weak schedule (except clippers of course) and everything clicks, not like they would do it all the time (not all weak schedules equal runs) but time to time these things happen. Unless they reach to 20+ streaks I doubt that would change anything for them, they are a perennial first/second round team and this year will be exactly the same, between lakers/clippers/rockets/nuggets , I don't see them going to anywhere above second round, conference finals are an elusive dream for them at best.
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January 15, 2020, 09:33:42 AM
I don't know if you noticed,  but Utah Jazz is playing some nice basketball lately. They beat Brooklyn Nets last night 118-107, making it 10 wins in a row. It is also fair to add that they had a bit lighter schedule, among the teams they beat only Clippers really stand out, but nevertheless, it still respectable winning streak. On top of that 10 wins in a row, they are also 15-1.

Another interesting thing is that their 15-1 run coincides with Mike Conley getting injured. Since he is out of the team, Jazz has 13-1 score and it will be interesting to see how team will react when he comes back. Joe Ingles got back in the first team and is playing some really good basketball, giving Jazz what they thought they will get from Conley.

Oh yeah! That is something else.
After reading your posts I went to the nba games history and just saw it.
Damn Jazz is really making something great. 10 winning streak is really great if it includes the Clippers on the list.

It could have been 16 winning streaks if they beat the Heat. Wow.
I haven't watched games of Utah but now I will.
Is Clarkson their lucky charm?  Grin
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January 15, 2020, 06:39:04 AM
There's not much improvement on his stats with the Jazz but at least his contribution has transform into a win for the team, unlike with the Cavaliers.

He has only played 9 games so far in Jazz uniform but he never experience a loss yet, so he is a lucky charm for the team that's why he was give good minutes. His stats here - https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/clarkjo01/gamelog/2020/
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January 15, 2020, 06:05:25 AM
I don't know if you noticed,  but Utah Jazz is playing some nice basketball lately. They beat Brooklyn Nets last night 118-107, making it 10 wins in a row. It is also fair to add that they had a bit lighter schedule, among the teams they beat only Clippers really stand out, but nevertheless, it still respectable winning streak. On top of that 10 wins in a row, they are also 15-1.

Another interesting thing is that their 15-1 run coincides with Mike Conley getting injured. Since he is out of the team, Jazz has 13-1 score and it will be interesting to see how team will react when he comes back. Joe Ingles got back in the first team and is playing some really good basketball, giving Jazz what they thought they will get from Conley.

It was really a great run by the jazz and I think it all happened after they acquired Jordan Clarkson. Based on how the jazz performed their run, Clarkson definitely adopt on the type of play and system they have which fit his playstyle.
It really fit him because it looks like he adjusted before he master it,when he starts playing, he was already scoring and thanks that his potential is now use again in a team that can beat the Lakers. He doesn't need to be a starter because he is so effected in the 2nd unit, just like his time with the Lakers, we are seeing his true potential now.
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January 15, 2020, 04:50:16 AM
I don't know if you noticed,  but Utah Jazz is playing some nice basketball lately. They beat Brooklyn Nets last night 118-107, making it 10 wins in a row. It is also fair to add that they had a bit lighter schedule, among the teams they beat only Clippers really stand out, but nevertheless, it still respectable winning streak. On top of that 10 wins in a row, they are also 15-1.

Another interesting thing is that their 15-1 run coincides with Mike Conley getting injured. Since he is out of the team, Jazz has 13-1 score and it will be interesting to see how team will react when he comes back. Joe Ingles got back in the first team and is playing some really good basketball, giving Jazz what they thought they will get from Conley.

It was really a great run by the jazz and I think it all happened after they acquired Jordan Clarkson. Based on how the jazz performed their run, Clarkson definitely adopt on the type of play and system they have which fit his playstyle.
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January 15, 2020, 04:38:51 AM
I don't know if you noticed,  but Utah Jazz is playing some nice basketball lately. They beat Brooklyn Nets last night 118-107, making it 10 wins in a row. It is also fair to add that they had a bit lighter schedule, among the teams they beat only Clippers really stand out, but nevertheless, it still respectable winning streak. On top of that 10 wins in a row, they are also 15-1.

Another interesting thing is that their 15-1 run coincides with Mike Conley getting injured. Since he is out of the team, Jazz has 13-1 score and it will be interesting to see how team will react when he comes back. Joe Ingles got back in the first team and is playing some really good basketball, giving Jazz what they thought they will get from Conley.
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January 15, 2020, 04:09:41 AM
Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

Let's just say Lebron changes his mind and he wants to trade this young fella.

You know that Lebron is so influential, he can talk to the management and get what he want and of course the management would agree if they want to keep Lebron. No player will improve as long as they play with Lebron, as long as the player is already good,... I can say that Warriors and Spurs are the best training ground for young players that wants to improve.

If Kuzma is not performing well then I would agree that it's time for the kid to go on other teams.

But it looks like he is really developing, that's why I don't think even even with Lebron's influence, the Lakers should trade Kuzma, it will be a total steal for the other teams.
If Lakers still thinking for their future and not just a LeBron lead team it's best to keep Kuzma as he can still be developed as his young age.
We can't sum it up since AD and LeBron still there to carry the team and get the numbers and playing time unlike Kuzma which only have
some limited minutes.
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January 15, 2020, 04:01:07 AM

Yeah, I think the rivalry started way back, many years ago and it started on the Olympics. CP3 was choosen over Rondo despite him winning a ring with Celtics.

Was able to dig an old video in 2009, like 11 years ago when their rivalry started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pv3ql54TMo

Wow! That was still New Orleans Hornets right?
I didn't watch that game though.
Thanks again for the link. It was entertaining to dig things about these two.  Grin

So Mavericks also won against the Warriors with a large lead of 27 points.
Again with the Mavericks sharing the ball. + garbage time of course. 12 players have points.  Grin
Ohhh and 13 of them have rebound/s.
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January 15, 2020, 03:47:07 AM

Already 15 now, (65-50) and it seems like this will continue since Cavaliers lose last night against the Lakers and though they don't travel but a back to back game is really tiring, especially that they lose in their previous game.

111-77 now with 10 minutes on the fourth.
It's devastating to see.
Already garbage time with a lot of time in the clock.

Well then, time for the 3rd stringers to showcase their abilities. But who else is watching at that time. I wont.

Though the Cavs caught up to 100 points but it was already garbage since the start of the fourth. The clippers really showed how dominant they are when they are healthy and Kawhi showing his MVP form in this game dropping 44points in three quarters.
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January 15, 2020, 03:29:34 AM
(rondo probably circled this on the calendar as "lets kick CP3's ass" game as well).


This!!!  Grin
I have that thoughts since I watched that clip where Rondo was mistaken for CP3 while buying shoes.
(sorry I dont have the link anymore and I cannot see it even while digging)  Grin
He got really mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7nVSl1jCzU.

I think the fans is just trolling Rondo, but you can look at his response.  Grin
You found it!! Thank you.
I still have some merits to spare so I will give one for you. Thanks for the effort.

CP3 got his revenge against the Houston Rockets and now Rondo got his own. What a nice rivalry. They make entertainment better.

Love the rivalry between the two, Lol. I don't know where the beef started but it looks like personal though.  Grin
Being the best may sound personal but I don't think so.
They are just aiming to be the number 1 point guard in the league so I think they will really bump into each other about that.
Rondo could be boasting his championship ring which Paul doesn't have. That will hurt him.
But CP3 could come back with 2 olympic gold medals which Rondo doesn't have.  Wink

Yeah, I think the rivalry started way back, many years ago and it started on the Olympics. CP3 was choosen over Rondo despite him winning a ring with Celtics.

Was able to dig an old video in 2009, like 11 years ago when their rivalry started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pv3ql54TMo
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January 15, 2020, 02:28:22 AM
Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

Let's just say Lebron changes his mind and he wants to trade this young fella.

You know that Lebron is so influential, he can talk to the management and get what he want and of course the management would agree if they want to keep Lebron. No player will improve as long as they play with Lebron, as long as the player is already good,... I can say that Warriors and Spurs are the best training ground for young players that wants to improve.

If Kuzma is not performing well then I would agree that it's time for the kid to go on other teams.

But it looks like he is really developing, that's why I don't think even even with Lebron's influence, the Lakers should trade Kuzma, it will be a total steal for the other teams.
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January 15, 2020, 01:25:19 AM
Looks like even with +14.5 there is really no chance for them to win.

Yeah, mirakal is right. They are tired.
Lose a little money there. Will be back for next time.
I didn't even enjoyed the game.  Grin Not even close. Even if there is still time I wont get my hopes up.

Will be waiting for the next game with high money lines.
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January 15, 2020, 01:21:25 AM

Already 15 now, (65-50) and it seems like this will continue since Cavaliers lose last night against the Lakers and though they don't travel but a back to back game is really tiring, especially that they lose in their previous game.

111-77 now with 10 minutes on the fourth.
It's devastating to see.
Already garbage time with a lot of time in the clock.

Well then, time for the 3rd stringers to showcase their abilities. But who else is watching at that time. I wont.
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January 15, 2020, 12:33:32 AM

I would go for Clippers with +14.5.

Can you double check that?

There's no clippers +14.5.. The line is Cavaliers +14.5 vs Clippers -14.5.

Edited. Thanks for pointing that out.

Anyway, just to add something, the game is on with Clippers: 31 and Cleveland: 26. Just the opening quarter. The lead will for sure balloon up to double digits as soon as the game progresses. 

Already 15 now, (65-50) and it seems like this will continue since Cavaliers lose last night against the Lakers and though they don't travel but a back to back game is really tiring, especially that they lose in their previous game.
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January 15, 2020, 12:05:39 AM

I would go for Clippers with +14.5.

Can you double check that?

There's no clippers +14.5.. The line is Cavaliers +14.5 vs Clippers -14.5.

Edited. Thanks for pointing that out.

Anyway, just to add something, the game is on with Clippers: 31 and Cleveland: 26. Just the opening quarter. The lead will for sure balloon up to double digits as soon as the game progresses. 
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January 14, 2020, 10:52:35 PM

I would go for Clippers with +14.5.

Can you double check that?

There's no clippers +14.5.. The line is Cavaliers +14.5 vs Clippers -14.5.
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January 14, 2020, 10:40:02 PM
I think Lebron has no say in this, I doubt Lebron is the reason there is trade talks about these people. Lebron wanted Melo to be brought to Lakers very badly at the start of the season, he made a lot of comments about Melo still being in great fit and how Lakers still have one open spot etc etc but Lakers didn't cared at all, Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

Yeah!!! Kobe can but not Lebron. Not on my knowledge though or any NBA analyst out there.
Magic might be Lebron's guy since he recruited him. But he ain't on the Lakers management anymore.

Anyway, who is seeing this?

Cleveland Cavaliers vs Los Angeles Clippers
Spread is (+15 1/2) for the Cavs with +900 on the moneyline.
It is a must win for the Cavs.  Grin

Kobe has clearly contributed more to Lakers than Lebron but of course Lebron is a current player. I am not aware of the internal influences and what nots but I guess every time there is a huddle inside and outside the court, Lebron is there.

I would go for Clippers with -14.5.
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January 14, 2020, 10:25:51 PM
I think Lebron has no say in this, I doubt Lebron is the reason there is trade talks about these people. Lebron wanted Melo to be brought to Lakers very badly at the start of the season, he made a lot of comments about Melo still being in great fit and how Lakers still have one open spot etc etc but Lakers didn't cared at all, Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

Yeah!!! Kobe can but not Lebron. Not on my knowledge though or any NBA analyst out there.
Magic might be Lebron's guy since he recruited him. But he ain't on the Lakers management anymore.

Anyway, who is seeing this?

Cleveland Cavaliers vs Los Angeles Clippers
Spread is (+15 1/2) for the Cavs with +900 on the moneyline.
It is a must win for the Cavs.  Grin
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