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April 24, 2020, 12:51:20 PM
I guess I would understand the logic though, think about it Lebron was playing with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love as his star teammates with Ty Lue as the coach versus a team of Kevin Durant Steph Curry and Klay Thompson and even Dray as a team plus Steve Kerr as the coach, when these teams are facing each other there is no need for Lebron to beat them in order to be considered best player, he carried that team all the way there and he fought really hard to beat them as well, by his last year at Cavs dude was basically too tired to make that work and gave up eventually, maybe if JR didn't do that idiotic last second thing we could have seen Lebron beasting once again, but after that he just called quits.

So, Kevin maybe wanted to the same, go to Brooklyn, get Kyrie, and if they can actually go to finals that would show the world he is as good as Lebron.
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April 24, 2020, 11:20:48 AM
^ NBA or even other basketball league was suspended because of this pandemic. Safety and health of players will be at stake if they will push the season to start government will be held liable if they will allow the games to start especially if any player will be infected by the virus. Nevertheless, delaying the season makes the viewer more excited about the upcoming season. Better for us to wait until this pandemic ends.
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April 24, 2020, 10:01:54 AM
I honestly  like the debate between Lebron James and Kevin Durant because these two are really rivals, well, one on one, KD can't win against Lebron as Lebron is stronger and can defend him, the only reason why Lebron does not score sometimes is because he will get doubled while I am not seeing KD getting doubled most of the time compared to Lebron.

We should have a poll for this debate.  Grin

That's a good idea.  Wink

Although I hate how Durant is making bad statements now I love how he plays the game.
I will give my vote to him.
One on one game he could really win against Lebron.
In terms of shooting percentage Durant has a better chance to shoot it.
Reach advantage, Durant too and even with Lebron's height and jumping capability he cannot reach Durant fading away.

But when it comes to penetration, it will be difficult for Durant to defend LBJ.
It might become an equal fight. Both have their strengths.
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April 24, 2020, 05:48:46 AM
I honestly  like the debate between Lebron James and Kevin Durant because these two are really rivals, well, one on one, KD can't win against Lebron as Lebron is stronger and can defend him, the only reason why Lebron does not score sometimes is because he will get doubled while I am not seeing KD getting doubled most of the time compared to Lebron.

We should have a poll for this debate.  Grin
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April 24, 2020, 05:31:58 AM

Do it in Brooklyn if you can. Win a championship with Kyrie. But that doesn't still proves he is the best player in NBA.
Being the best is also writing something in history.
Winning games which are impossible to win.
He had that Westbrook behavior tainted in him.  Grin

yeah, do it there, and then you can prove that you are valuable to be considered within the best players of the NBA, but i do not think that he can do it, and for sure do not think that he is the best, to be the best, you have to be good constantly and the best when it is hardest, and he did not play that way, he is the best when the team is relaxed and has good difference in their hands, otherwise did not saw many wins with his brilliance in tough fourth quarter
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April 24, 2020, 05:27:04 AM
Draymond Green says Kevin Durant changed when LeBron James was considered best NBA player after 2017 Finals

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Despite Durant winning NBA Finals MVP and beating LeBron James' Cleveland Cavaliers, Green said K.D. was unhappy that James was still considered the better player. Durant averaged 28.5 points, 7.9 rebounds and 4.3 assists on 56/44/89 shooting splits during the 2017 playoffs.

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According to Green, Durant's demeanor changed, and he eventually started blaming Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson for not passing him the ball.

Do you believe on Draymond Green's statement here?

Is it really the reason why Durant left for Brooklyn because he want to be the sole star of his team and wants to be called greater than Lebron James?


I believe so.
Durant is a different player. He want to be the best player in NBA but it took him long from staying with OKC.
He is different with Curry which proved everything with hard work and also putting the team to win games.

I think he believe he can do it all. 
There had been a lot of bad character this man had been throwing around in Twitter.

Well, he still have the time to prove it.
Do it in Brooklyn if you can. Win a championship with Kyrie. But that doesn't still proves he is the best player in NBA.
Being the best is also writing something in history.
Winning games which are impossible to win.
He had that Westbrook behavior tainted in him.  Grin
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April 24, 2020, 04:49:49 AM
Do you believe on Draymond Green's statement here?

Is it really the reason why Durant left for Brooklyn because he want to be the sole star of his team and wants to be called greater than Lebron James?
Being considered to be the greatest will always come to the fans itself or simply means that people should recognize it rather than forcing it out that he's much better than Lebron.
It might be some little arguments into that particular situation back in 2017 but past is past and nothing can really be changed.

-snip-
Im not saying Durant isnt good but he do still need to prove out more before he do get such title.
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April 24, 2020, 04:35:01 AM
Both players are good IMO, Durant had a very easy journey because he joined the Warriors which has a lot of star players so he hasn't really prove anything yet. Maybe this is his time now to prove if he can take his team to the Finals with Irving, of course.

Lebron is tested, as an individual player he is really unstoppable so people believe he is better compared to Durant, but the race is not over yet since both are still active, well, hopefully Durant will not struggle with his team and beat all their opponent in the East.
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April 24, 2020, 04:22:45 AM
Draymond Green says Kevin Durant changed when LeBron James was considered best NBA player after 2017 Finals

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Despite Durant winning NBA Finals MVP and beating LeBron James' Cleveland Cavaliers, Green said K.D. was unhappy that James was still considered the better player. Durant averaged 28.5 points, 7.9 rebounds and 4.3 assists on 56/44/89 shooting splits during the 2017 playoffs.

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According to Green, Durant's demeanor changed, and he eventually started blaming Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson for not passing him the ball.

Do you believe on Draymond Green's statement here?

Is it really the reason why Durant left for Brooklyn because he want to be the sole star of his team and wants to be called greater than Lebron James?

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April 24, 2020, 03:58:52 AM
They do have a choice and that is to wait for all of this to be cleared. Their health is more important than money.
Everyone's health.

They can even save more money for patiently waiting for good progress, no need to rush although I know the NBA already knows this.

Somehow we don't know the full terms of those plans that's why we are here just sharing our own thoughts and views. If only we got a glimpse of those, by any chance, we can somehow see and determined how sh*t or not those proposed plans.

Anyhow, those plans, even they are now ready to push for it will surely need first the government's approval so I think that will not be easy to push just because they want it to happen.
Yes everyone's health is more important, once this is end we can see again the NBA play and we can watch again our favorite teams and favorite idols everyone once the game will continue but because of the coronavirus is mandatory to cancelled all the play for the safety of the people who watching in the stadium and also the player because that is crowded and it is prone to get virus easily so we need to pray to end this.
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April 23, 2020, 10:35:53 PM
They do have a choice and that is to wait for all of this to be cleared. Their health is more important than money.
Everyone's health.

They can even save more money for patiently waiting for good progress, no need to rush although I know the NBA already knows this.

Somehow we don't know the full terms of those plans that's why we are here just sharing our own thoughts and views. If only we got a glimpse of those, by any chance, we can somehow see and determined how sh*t or not those proposed plans.

Anyhow, those plans, even they are now ready to push for it will surely need first the government's approval so I think that will not be easy to push just because they want it to happen.

Oh yeah! I forgot about that.
They cannot just march thru their own plans without seeking the approval of the government.
It would mean sacrificing a lot of people by doing it which in the end is the problem of the government.

I am sure they have one of the wisest option out there using their wise team. Hell, they even made a horse game come to reality.
I haven't even thought about it.
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April 23, 2020, 07:11:40 PM
They do have a choice and that is to wait for all of this to be cleared. Their health is more important than money.
Everyone's health.

They can even save more money for patiently waiting for good progress, no need to rush although I know the NBA already knows this.

Somehow we don't know the full terms of those plans that's why we are here just sharing our own thoughts and views. If only we got a glimpse of those, by any chance, we can somehow see and determined how sh*t or not those proposed plans.

Anyhow, those plans, even they are now ready to push for it will surely need first the government's approval so I think that will not be easy to push just because they want it to happen.
Indeed, there still government that also needed to consider before everything will go and push forward, knowing that the  organizations are still under the government rulings. So what we can do right is to wait for any information that will be available in public if everything was settled and ready to continue it will surely be announced and be endorse from the national medias.
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April 23, 2020, 06:52:25 PM
They do have a choice and that is to wait for all of this to be cleared. Their health is more important than money.
Everyone's health.

They can even save more money for patiently waiting for good progress, no need to rush although I know the NBA already knows this.

Somehow we don't know the full terms of those plans that's why we are here just sharing our own thoughts and views. If only we got a glimpse of those, by any chance, we can somehow see and determined how sh*t or not those proposed plans.

Anyhow, those plans, even they are now ready to push for it will surely need first the government's approval so I think that will not be easy to push just because they want it to happen.
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April 23, 2020, 03:18:26 PM

 We are not talking about size of a hotel and an arena that they can stay, we are talking about all of the involved people to be completely isolated from the outside world which is crazy to think about and definitely unlikely and would be super dangerous but even with all of that in mind, it is logistically an impossible thing that we are asking.

 There are 30 teams, with 15 players, that is 450 players that are active, we are talking about a staff of at least 5, more likely 10 with all the coaches and defensive coaches and all asisstant coaches and scouts (they don't just scout the raw talent of high school and college kids, they give valid information on the opponent as well) and doctors etc etc. That puts us at 25 people per team, which is already 750 people. Then they have to find probably at least two big hotels, probably even as much as 5 hotels but lets say just 2 huge hotels, this means all of the people who will work on that hotel will be staying there as well, they can't risk going to their homes and coming back. Lets assume that is between front desk to room service to chefs to house keeping and maintanence and god knows what I am forgetting, that is AT LEAST a 50 men crew, with 2 shifts that is another 100, two hotels makes it 200. We are talking about camera crew, the casters, the linemen for the cables and whatever, the sound people, the light people and the arena crew that will prepare the arena, those are at least another 100 people. We are talking about 1000+ people all staying on the same hotels and never contacting anyone, which requires storages for food and clothes and laundry at a size you wouldn't believe.

 Long story short, even if they want to have this, they are either going to risk people, or they are going to pull of the biggest isolation in history of the world that would be at a level that has never been even done at a %10 scale before. I do not see it going on anytime soon, they can relax the rules a bit and do it when all of this gets better and there are less people getting infected and dying.
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April 23, 2020, 02:09:42 PM
That is why they were looking at Las Vegas option seriously, they know that Las Vegas has everything you might need for a quarantine option. If you get as many people as you can, between all teams, all staffs, all the workers and basically everything from top to bottom that you can ever think of that would make this a viable option, that would be under 1000 people.

You can literally hire just one building, a hotel or something I don't really know, and put them all in there, then you can just close down one arena and clean it up. Between the place they stay and the place they play the games, those people do not need to face ANYONE outside, it could literally be like a small closed world of theirs without even seeing anyone let alone speaking with them. Hence that was the initial thought.
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April 23, 2020, 12:31:13 PM
It will be time consuming and also expensive if they will test them over and over again every game.
Plus, you will need to test the staff too.
Cameraman, floor polishers, etc...
All of them must be clear with the virus and this will happen every game. Instead of having profits, they will just bury themselves with all the expense.
It wouldn't make much sense to keep testing everyone included before every game, rather get them all together ( players, staff and all the rest of support people) in some kind of quarantine and let them play those games. Preferably just skip the  rest of regular season, get all playoff teams together and finish it off, with best of 5 series. Then proceed to the draft, so next season can start in the reasonable time frame.
To sum it up -If they are all quarantined there is no need for constant testing, and if they are not quarantined, virus will almost certainly spread and endanger it all. Organizing something like that, to put so many people n the quarantine wouldn't  be an easy thing to do, but they don't have much choice if they wanna finish this season.

That is not how it will be.
They need to protect every player or else it will be a larger risk for them if suddenly one of them got the virus.

Where they will be staying? In a hotel? Hotel's have their own crew members too that will serve the players.
They still need the rest and they cannot sleep inside the basketball court.
Best of 5 series will still take a long time.

They do have a choice and that is to wait for all of this to be cleared. Their health is more important than money.
Everyone's health.
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April 23, 2020, 09:49:29 AM
It will be time consuming and also expensive if they will test them over and over again every game.
Plus, you will need to test the staff too.
Cameraman, floor polishers, etc...
All of them must be clear with the virus and this will happen every game. Instead of having profits, they will just bury themselves with all the expense.
It wouldn't make much sense to keep testing everyone included before every game, rather get them all together ( players, staff and all the rest of support people) in some kind of quarantine and let them play those games. Preferably just skip the  rest of regular season, get all playoff teams together and finish it off, with best of 5 series. Then proceed to the draft, so next season can start in the reasonable time frame.
To sum it up -If they are all quarantined there is no need for constant testing, and if they are not quarantined, virus will almost certainly spread and endanger it all. Organizing something like that, to put so many people n the quarantine wouldn't  be an easy thing to do, but they don't have much choice if they wanna finish this season.
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April 23, 2020, 08:44:56 AM
The virus will stay for months or years so I think it is best to play without the audience if they are going to continue in a few months(without the vaccine). What I am thinking is the safety of the players. Basketball is a contact sport. Would all the players self isolate after playing with other teams? Would a team all stay in a quarantine place(for example) during the season. How would they know that a player doesn't have the virus, would they get tested once in a while. Because if one player has the virus, the NBA will be fuck. 
If they have a test a test kit that will automatically tell the result after every test, I think this would work. .
What the NBA has to do is just to test everyone who will enter the court and doing that every game is a must, so this way they can play without audience but they can certainly give entertainment to the whole world, this is a big move already, hopefully they'll realize this if they ever plan of this one.

I think that was discussed here before.

It will be time consuming and also expensive if they will test them over and over again every game.
Plus, you will need to test the staff too.
Cameraman, floor polishers, etc...
All of them must be clear with the virus and this will happen every game. Instead of having profits, they will just bury themselves with all the expense.

I have no idea how much they will spend for every test but I'm sure they will be able to sell more through live streaming if they will ever resume the NBA. Maybe we can try to compute if we know the price per test kit,  so we will be able to determine how much they will spend versus the amount they will earn, and for business like NBA which is a big business, they will surely adjust their rate to still remain profitable, so I don't think they will operate with a lose if the plan will be realize.
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April 23, 2020, 08:36:12 AM
The virus will stay for months or years so I think it is best to play without the audience if they are going to continue in a few months(without the vaccine). What I am thinking is the safety of the players. Basketball is a contact sport. Would all the players self isolate after playing with other teams? Would a team all stay in a quarantine place(for example) during the season. How would they know that a player doesn't have the virus, would they get tested once in a while. Because if one player has the virus, the NBA will be fuck. 
If they have a test a test kit that will automatically tell the result after every test, I think this would work. .
What the NBA has to do is just to test everyone who will enter the court and doing that every game is a must, so this way they can play without audience but they can certainly give entertainment to the whole world, this is a big move already, hopefully they'll realize this if they ever plan of this one.

I think that was discussed here before.

It will be time consuming and also expensive if they will test them over and over again every game.
Plus, you will need to test the staff too.
Cameraman, floor polishers, etc...
All of them must be clear with the virus and this will happen every game. Instead of having profits, they will just bury themselves with all the expense.
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April 23, 2020, 07:43:20 AM
The virus will stay for months or years so I think it is best to play without the audience if they are going to continue in a few months(without the vaccine). What I am thinking is the safety of the players. Basketball is a contact sport. Would all the players self isolate after playing with other teams? Would a team all stay in a quarantine place(for example) during the season. How would they know that a player doesn't have the virus, would they get tested once in a while. Because if one player has the virus, the NBA will be fuck. 
If they have a test a test kit that will automatically tell the result after every test, I think this would work. .
What the NBA has to do is just to test everyone who will enter the court and doing that every game is a must, so this way they can play without audience but they can certainly give entertainment to the whole world, this is a big move already, hopefully they'll realize this if they ever plan of this one.
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