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Quote from: spadormie on January 14, 2020, 11:16:03 AM

No I don't think he's having a hard time. He's just hastening the recruitment because he's already aging so fast and declining so fast. Even so, he's already having a blast in assists(his best season in giving dimes btw).

He was just preparing himself for the playoffs so he is not too aggressive now, with his style, he will tally a double double (points, asts) the least.
Lakers is already guaranteed to be in the playoffs based on their standing right now, If Lebron is not too aggressive he has Davis to step up the points for him and even the other players are stepping up because they know Lebron is not producing much points.

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Well, that's what Rondo is. He can get the team ahead by commanding them and also giving them some flash passes.

Maybe it's time for them to experiment to put Rondo in the starting line up and be the PG instead of James, do you think that would work?

Of course it would work. But, that could be a major adjustment becase LeBron stayed as PG for a lot of games and THEY ARE WINNING. So, probably if they'll start falling off they can pull this out.

Quote from: danherbias07 on January 14, 2020, 08:19:59 AM

Is Lebron having a hard time to enjoy the young ones? Grin

No I don't think he's having a hard time. He's just hastening the recruitment because he's already aging so fast and declining so fast. Even so, he's already having a blast in assists(his best season in giving dimes btw).

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I think Lebron has no say in this, I doubt Lebron is the reason there is trade talks about these people. Lebron wanted Melo to be brought to Lakers very badly at the start of the season, he made a lot of comments about Melo still being in great fit and how Lakers still have one open spot etc etc but Lakers didn't cared at all, Rob Pelinka is not Lebrons guy but Kobe's guy so I think even Kobe even after so many years of retirement probably has more say in Lakers trade deals than Lebron who is actively playing in lakers right now. Unless Lebron somehow manages to get couple of rings to Lakers, I doubt they will ever listen to him.

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Lebron doesn't have that kind of influence at all anymore, I mean with Cavs he had that because he was the only player that could turn things around for Cavs, they really are the most horrible team in all of NBA most of the time (with Knicks) so Lebron made them matter, this dude took that team into 4 straight finals and as soon as he left team started to be the worst team around, he was that important. Lakers made profits financially during the 6 year they missed the playoffs, they are much more important than Lebron, dude can request a trade and Lakers could finish a season with 20-62 and they would still profit from just being the Lakers and that's it.

In the end Bogdan would be a good trade for Lakers because he is a good SG and could help out in the future but I feel like Kuzma is good anyway and they could just make the lineup with Kuzma at PF and AD at Center because AD can definitely play as Center.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 14, 2020, 08:19:59 AM

Is Lebron having a hard time to enjoy the young ones? Grin

Probably because he wants to play with someone who are consistent and can be trusted to shoot the ball especially in the crucial times as he can't do the last shot, so he'll pass it to a spot up shooter. Grin

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Quote from: Golftech on January 14, 2020, 07:59:13 AM

Not for LeBron he needs to have every support that he needs to win the title. The management is there to follow him and in anyhow will give whatever he will demanded.

He is that huge now? Huh

Well if its for the championship then I think it will be considered.

Quote from: Golftech on January 14, 2020, 07:59:13 AM

Lakers have a lots of expectations from the fans and to fulfill that they've need to balance everything. In extents to provide players that will be fitted to their system.

Kuzma had been there before Lebron. I think they are missing that point here.
They already revamped their roster to something unexpected.
Veterans and the young. That is already perfect for me. Is Lebron having a hard time to enjoy the young ones? Grin

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Quote from: Reid on January 14, 2020, 04:01:41 AM

I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.

Trading Kuzma is a bad move for Lakers management, if ever. I, myself also doesn't want that idea but if you will think, Kuzma can showcase more of his talents and improve if he's in another team instead of being with Lebron. He can possibly grow into his full potential if ever.

Quote from: Ranly123 on January 14, 2020, 07:36:59 AM

Of course it's not all his decisions to be followed. The pride of the team owner and managers will still prevail on every decisions that the team has to do.

Yeah, the pride of management is always there but if it was Lebron's request, they will surely discuss about it and possibly give it a try. He won't be called influential for nothing. Also, it's nearly a decade for Lakers since they got a ring. Think of it, maybe they are just securing their chance to get it this season.

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Quote from: arwin100 on January 14, 2020, 06:53:02 AM

But looks like LeBron is impatient to do things and want to secure the rings that's why they are looking for good addition for their squad, but seriously I don't want to see kuz trade to the other team since he is a valuable player that needed to keep if Lakers will boost him up for sure they will get the stronger kuz rather than getting an old guys who's starting up with their system.

Of course, that will be a bonus.
He is not satisfied yet.
Getting a championship for the Lakers will mean a lot.

But getting something that will blend with Lebron? Who?
He is the pointguard, he is the forward and also the center for some time. Grin

Kuzma is already the perfect team mate for him. He just need to know it. There might be something else behind all of this.

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Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office Grin

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Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.

Of course it's not all his decisions to be followed. The pride of the team owner and managers will still prevail on every decisions that the team has to do.

Not for LeBron he needs to have every support that he needs to win the title. The management is there to follow him and in anyhow will give whatever he will demanded. Lakers have a lots of expectations from the fans and to fulfill that they've need to balance everything. In extents to provide players that will be fitted to their system.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 14, 2020, 05:24:01 AM

Quote from: Ranly123 on January 14, 2020, 05:16:58 AM

Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office Grin

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Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.

Of course it's not all his decisions to be followed. The pride of the team owner and managers will still prevail on every decisions that the team has to do.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 14, 2020, 06:26:41 AM

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I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.

Anything could happen. There was a joke right after the game between OKC and Lakers that LA deliberately let Kuzma do the work to increase his trade value. Though it was funny, but It could also be true as the Lakers is looking for someone that could perfectly blend with AD and LeBron. I know Kuzma is a great back up offensive specialist coming from the 2nd squad, and I am really hoping they will not disassemble the team chemistry with this issue again.
Everyone in the Lakers team right now is enjoying each other's company and It is evident on every game they played.

But looks like LeBron is impatient to do things and want to secure the rings that's why they are looking for good addition for their squad, but seriously I don't want to see kuz trade to the other team since he is a valuable player that needed to keep if Lakers will boost him up for sure they will get the stronger kuz rather than getting an old guys who's starting up with their system.

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I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.

Anything could happen. There was a joke right after the game between OKC and Lakers that LA deliberately let Kuzma do the work to increase his trade value. Though it was funny, but It could also be true as the Lakers is looking for someone that could perfectly blend with AD and LeBron. I know Kuzma is a great back up offensive specialist coming from the 2nd squad, and I am really hoping they will not disassemble the team chemistry with this issue again.
Everyone in the Lakers team right now is enjoying each other's company and It is evident on every game they played.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 14, 2020, 05:24:01 AM

Quote from: Ranly123 on January 14, 2020, 05:16:58 AM

Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office Grin

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Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.

Yes, he's going to do everything not to disappoint the fans and the franchise owner so he will take this things in his very own hands.
His influenced is how things will work through this process, if he ask or demand for something it will surely be assess and discuss
with the big bosses of Lakers team.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on January 14, 2020, 05:16:58 AM

Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

Don't you know that Lebron works part time at the Laker's front office Grin

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Kidding aside, LBJ is very influential on this matter and he have to get what he want as he is approaching the twilight of his career and he needs to bring the Lakers to the Finals that many expected him to do.

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Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

Let's just say Lebron changes his mind and he wants to trade this young fella.

You know that Lebron is so influential, he can talk to the management and get what he want and of course the management would agree if they want to keep Lebron. No player will improve as long as they play with Lebron, as long as the player is already good,... I can say that Warriors and Spurs are the best training ground for young players that wants to improve.

Maybe you are talking about the LeBron 3-5 ago. The LeBron now is different based on what I see since he is playing and sharing the ball to his teammates. In fact he is not the scoring leader in his team and that alone is the testament that he changes his game. Though he is influencial to the team, I don't think he alone will decide on who to trade.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 14, 2020, 01:43:03 AM

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Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

Let's just say Lebron changes his mind and he wants to trade this young fella.

You know that Lebron is so influential, he can talk to the management and get what he want and of course the management would agree if they want to keep Lebron. No player will improve as long as they play with Lebron, as long as the player is already good,... I can say that Warriors and Spurs are the best training ground for young players that wants to improve.

I know Lebron has that kind of influence in Cavs before but I do not know he is still doing the same in Lakers. It would be the demise of a team if they let one player control the future of their team. It is just a pity if they let go of homegrown talent. Kuzma has still much potential in him and all they need to do is bring it out of him.

I agree. I would not let go of that kid if I am the Lakers management. Even if Lebron do try to persuade them.
The kid is really good.
He does showcase it with some of the games. 36 points against OKC while Lebron and AD is out.

But if it does happen then I am sorry for the Lakers.
Lucky for the team who will take him and I bet they will racing to snatch this guy.

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Quote from: stadus on January 14, 2020, 12:24:07 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on January 13, 2020, 10:50:43 PM

Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

Let's just say Lebron changes his mind and he wants to trade this young fella.

You know that Lebron is so influential, he can talk to the management and get what he want and of course the management would agree if they want to keep Lebron. No player will improve as long as they play with Lebron, as long as the player is already good,... I can say that Warriors and Spurs are the best training ground for young players that wants to improve.

I know Lebron has that kind of influence in Cavs before but I do not know he is still doing the same in Lakers. It would be the demise of a team if they let one player control the future of their team. It is just a pity if they let go of homegrown talent. Kuzma has still much potential in him and all they need to do is bring it out of him.

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Quote from: btc_angela on January 13, 2020, 10:50:43 PM

Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

Let's just say Lebron changes his mind and he wants to trade this young fella.

You know that Lebron is so influential, he can talk to the management and get what he want and of course the management would agree if they want to keep Lebron. No player will improve as long as they play with Lebron, as long as the player is already good,... I can say that Warriors and Spurs are the best training ground for young players that wants to improve.

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To be honest, I really think that Lakers would go down at Chesapeake arena. Yet they managed to get the W off that game. OKC has a lineup that is complete and they even managed to defeat the Houston Rockets. And on the other hand, Lakers isn't complete on the absence of Anthony Davis. But at least, Kuzma did a great way to help the team to victory. Got his career high this season in score. I'm kinda wondering if the Lakers will still consider trading him. I think it's not really worth it. Kuz is a player that could give you overall stats.

Right, I was impressed by Kuzma is this game, one on one, outside 3's, floater. Maybe his name has pop up as potential in the trading that's why he is showing the Lakers management what they are about to lose if they decided to let him go.

Rondo take care and the general in the first quarter and that's what it takes for them to get a huge lead and never give it back. Although OKC try to rally, but it was not enough.

It wont really be worth it and they would definitely waste up a good player like Kuzma with soo much potential to be a much more better player
if he would given more playtime.He at least prove out that he's capable on good plays.If I were on Lakers management I would really have that second thought on trading up this player but rather they should more polish this guy yet this would be a good contributor for a more stronger Lakers team.About on talks about making Rondo replacing LBJ position? I don't think they would consider it out.

Lakers would not trade a good player for a shitty player and not all good players really fit in the team and we know nothing is permanent because even CP3 were traded in OKC. It's rumored that Kuzma will be traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic which I think a good player that could provide some kind of offense they need for the Lakers. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2020/1/12/21062572/lakers-news-kyle-kuzma-trade-rumors-hot-scoring-streak-shooting-stats

Exactly, that's the rumour that have been circulating and I really don't understand what's the reasoning. Anyway, nothing is permanent in NBA but the thing with Kuzma is that he has blended well with the Lebron lead Lakers and it will be a pity to see him go and traded to Bogdan Bogdanovic. They have keep him away for the AD trade so it doesn't make sense at least to let him at this point.

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