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Quote from: Viscore on September 20, 2019, 09:25:16 AM

I'm sure Lebron would bounce back hard because if I'm not mistaken, it was the first time he miss a playoffs since he starts his career in the NBA.

He missed playoffs during the first two seasons in his NBA career.

From 2006 to 2017-2018 season, he never missed playoffs and reached Finals 9 times, consecutively from 2010-18.

What a tiring career. Since Lakers didn't make it again to playoffs last season, I'm sure LeBron miss having a long vacation. He also now enough time for anything including preparation for the next season.

Ow... Thanks for correcting my mistake, its just that I wasn't able to witness Lebron's early stage of journey in the NBA so I miss that.
Anyway, I think it's normal because he starts young in the NBA like Kobe, and after he started to entered in playoffs, he was consistent until he was already consistent to be in the NBA finals, which is a big improvement.

In fact, I can say that Lebron has already accomplished everything as an NBA player, giving championship in 2 different team is a proof that he can play with other teams and still bring the same result, hopefully he can also do that with the Lakers.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 19, 2019, 07:18:27 PM

He was a great player but the team signs a player based on its current status.
We cannot forget his contribution to the USA basketball as he also lead in winning in the international tournament like FIBA and olympics IIRC.

That's why veterans like to help him because of his status and contribution in the past, but team are getting a player based on what he can offer to the team, this is just purely business and nothing is personal here.

We will never forget the contributions of Melo and on how great he is as a player and being a superstar. Still no clear reasons why most of the teams aren't signing but I'm still hoping for his good fortune that there will be a last minute contract signing.

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Quote from: spadormie on September 20, 2019, 03:15:30 PM

Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

Obviously he's not on his prime. As he is aging, that same goes with his ability especially his physical body depleting. But, his strength and shooting and his averages from last season is strong enough as an aged man. Imagine averaging 27 pts per game is still something. But, he can't still improve his free throw. He's finding a hard time sinking those especially during clutch time.

I guess the cavalry has arrived. Lakers' firepower would be different this season. THeir focus in winning the championship is great. And instead LeBron with his wife for the vacation, he chose training with the team.

Lebron has played smarter as he matures in the league, avoiding injury is the way for him to help his team.
If you notice during regular season, he is not so aggressive but comes playoffs time, that will change because that's where the real battle starts.
Looking at his statistics, I don't see any big decline at all.

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Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

Obviously he's not on his prime. As he is aging, that same goes with his ability especially his physical body depleting. But, his strength and shooting and his averages from last season is strong enough as an aged man. Imagine averaging 27 pts per game is still something. But, he can't still improve his free throw. He's finding a hard time sinking those especially during clutch time.

I guess the cavalry has arrived. Lakers' firepower would be different this season. THeir focus in winning the championship is great. And instead LeBron with his wife for the vacation, he chose training with the team.

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Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

Well Steve Nash was old for an NBA player before he took that 2 time season MVP. There was a joke in our circle of friends that when Steve Nash goes 100 years old he will be season MVP and Finals MVP and maybe the God of basketball. Grin

We cannot tell about how Lebron will do it.
He is one agile man for his size and he can be pointguard if he want too. We will be seeing a Magic like team once again in Lakers if done well.

He doesnt need to be consistent on shooting at that job or is he trying to specialize there since he knew he is getting fragile by now and in 3 more years. He did show some good shooting even before. It is his freethrow which was messed up.

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Quote from: Viscore on September 20, 2019, 09:25:16 AM

I'm sure Lebron would bounce back hard because if I'm not mistaken, it was the first time he miss a playoffs since he starts his career in the NBA.

He missed playoffs during the first two seasons in his NBA career.

From 2006 to 2017-2018 season, he never missed playoffs and reached Finals 9 times, consecutively from 2010-18.

What a tiring career. Since Lakers didn't make it again to playoffs last season, I'm sure LeBron miss having a long vacation. He also now enough time for anything including preparation for the next season.

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People are forgetting how teams are forged and built into existence, you are looking at warriors at their peak (they won that 73-9 season without KD as well but lost in finals) and they think warriors must have drafted lucky or something.

There was so much that went with that team, first Curry-Klay-Dray was drafted of course but at the same time before that 2015 win they were still on their way to be a great team, they sent Monte Ellis to make curry the PG, they made Klay a defensive threat so Curry could focus on offense (Klay got his share as well of course) they literally built the team for years before they were the Warrios we know.

Now, we are sitting here expecting Lebron to make a team that literally missed the playoffs every year since 2013 to actually make them champions, I am sorry but even Lebron is not that good, surely they got a better roster than last year but that doesn't mean everything will click in the first year, could they get a ring? Yeah sure why not, depending on injuries at other teams they could. That doesn't mean they have a big shot though.

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Quote from: Golftech on September 20, 2019, 09:00:02 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

LeBron is not in shape last season. We've seen that from how he played, and I'm not sure if that's because of the teammates that he have or he's really aging. Though showing those videos from how he's working out right now, it seems that he's in perfect shape and ready to compete again.

Speaking of changes, 3-point shooters are a big part now of this league. Even the big men need to have this capabilities, and I've seen how AD is working with his outside shots.

He was, it was just that he was injured so his teams chances to be in the playoffs have reduced until they were really eliminated.
The stats does speak for itself, he average 27 points per game last season, and that's the stats of a consistent star player, maybe this season it might drop since he has Davis to help him generate points but that's still good as long as they will be in the playoffs.

I'm sure Lebron would bounce back hard because if I'm not mistaken, it was the first time he miss a playoffs since he starts his career in the NBA.

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Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

LeBron is not in shape last season. We've seen that from how he played, and I'm not sure if that's because of the teammates that he have or he's really aging. Though showing those videos from how he's working out right now, it seems that he's in perfect shape and ready to compete again.

Speaking of changes, 3-point shooters are a big part now of this league. Even the big men need to have this capabilities, and I've seen how AD is working with his outside shots.

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Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

At his built, you can already tell that 3 point shooting is not his masterpiece, he is a dominant in the inside and driving in the inside due to speed big body and his speed. Lebron's 3 point percentage last season is no impressive which is only 33.9% while Curry has 43.7%, stats extracted from the following sources.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01.html

Lebron was built to be unstoppable driving to the basket, but as he aged his stamina, agility, speed, and strength will eventually slow down so his last resort would be to improve his shooting percentage, including 3pt shooting percentage which wasnt his game style during his prime.
Even Kobe slowly resorts more on shooting on his 30's plus his body received too much punishment from injuries.

Lebron can still drive, at his age now he is still strong enough to do it, but we know if he wants to win, he cannot do it alone, he needs some help and luckily they finally get Davis to play with him. This season will not be all Lebron as he has Davis where he can rely if he will be doubled and based on what I'm seeing in the past, he has more success when he has another star playing with him, usually if they will form a big 3, they will be successful.

This time around, the big 3 of the lakers are really big, my big 3 is howard, Davis, and Lebron.
Would you agree?

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Quote from: mirakal on September 20, 2019, 03:53:03 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

At his built, you can already tell that 3 point shooting is not his masterpiece, he is a dominant in the inside and driving in the inside due to speed big body and his speed. Lebron's 3 point percentage last season is no impressive which is only 33.9% while Curry has 43.7%, stats extracted from the following sources.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01.html

Lebron was built to be unstoppable driving to the basket, but as he aged his stamina, agility, speed, and strength will eventually slow down so his last resort would be to improve his shooting percentage, including 3pt shooting percentage which wasnt his game style during his prime.
Even Kobe slowly resorts more on shooting on his 30's plus his body received too much punishment from injuries.

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Quote from: mich on September 19, 2019, 11:17:25 PM

3. Kevin Durant

Speaking of Kevin Durant, wearing #7 jersey.

--> https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/19/kevin-durant-nets-jersey-debut-pictures

He looks good on that number 7 jersey, hopefully he will not anymore transfer to other team and he will just retire in the team while bringing success to it.
We will certainly miss him next season as its still healing time for him, the injury was serious that it requires a lot of time for him to recover, and I don't trust Irving alone could bring the team to a higher level, I'm not expecting they will win in the East until Durant will come back.

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Quote from: mich on September 19, 2019, 11:17:25 PM

3. Kevin Durant

Speaking of Kevin Durant, wearing #7 jersey.

--> https://www.nba.com/article/2019/09/19/kevin-durant-nets-jersey-debut-pictures

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Quote from: Jating on September 20, 2019, 06:14:54 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 20, 2019, 05:52:06 AM

Quote from: harizen on September 19, 2019, 11:06:21 AM

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Is this the WSJ interview?

Yeah, read what Durant says, was just surprise that he blurted and said things like he didn't feel that GSW accepted him as one of them. And yes, this is a direct hit to GSW players and management, he won MVP's and rings with them, what's wrong with Durant?

Curry respondent though, but he is not biting on the issue and that's cool of him not to response negatively and let the issue die naturally.

I don't know about Durant, lately he active very diva specially once he moved on a new team.

I'm sure that interview shows Durant personality, hard to dissect but seems the whole NBA stardom has somewhat gotten into his head, he doesn't understand that NBA is a business so it's hard to say that there are no politics around, just saying. And if there are no politics or media around, I don't think that he can be paid with that salary.

He is not as wise as other NBA superstar who really knows what's happening inside, he seems to improve as a player but he doesn't show his maturity on understand that NBA is a business. I'm not sure about his life outside but players like Kobe is proven a smart one as while he is receiving his income from NBA, he also invested his money in real business, that's how matured people think.

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Quote from: harizen on September 19, 2019, 11:06:21 AM

[..]

Is this the WSJ interview?

Yeah, read what Durant says, was just surprise that he blurted and said things like he didn't feel that GSW accepted him as one of them. And yes, this is a direct hit to GSW players and management, he won MVP's and rings with them, what's wrong with Durant?

Curry respondent though, but he is not biting on the issue and that's cool of him not to response negatively and let the issue die naturally.

I don't know about Durant, lately he active very diva specially once he moved on a new team.

I'm sure that interview shows Durant personality, hard to dissect but seems the whole NBA stardom has somewhat gotten into his head, he doesn't understand that NBA is a business so it's hard to say that there are no politics around, just saying. And if there are no politics or media around, I don't think that he can be paid with that salary.

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Quote from: harizen on September 19, 2019, 11:06:21 AM

[..]

Is this the WSJ interview?

Yeah, read what Durant says, was just surprise that he blurted and said things like he didn't feel that GSW accepted him as one of them. And yes, this is a direct hit to GSW players and management, he won MVP's and rings with them, what's wrong with Durant?

Curry respondent though, but he is not biting on the issue and that's cool of him not to response negatively and let the issue die naturally.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 20, 2019, 03:59:26 AM

Quote from: mich on September 19, 2019, 11:17:25 PM

The three superstars who defined this NBA decade

1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Kevin Durant

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27637433/the-three-superstars-defined-nba-decade

I would say that Stephen Curry has more impact in the last decade as compare to Lebron and Durant. He reinvent and redefine what to be meant by shooting guards and introduce the art of three point shooting. Before that three point shooting is just being used for close games. But when Curry started to focus on the 3's GSW is unstoppable and we haven't seen this kind of potent combination, quick release and deadly. As for Lebron and Durant, we have seen Kobe's game prior to them taking the torch from Bryant.

I think the three of them has different impact to the league. Not just Curry's threes but we should also consider bigmen like Durant that has handles, can penetrate and can shoot threes. In LeBron's side, he is the epitome of a perfect player which can play all five roles in any given situation. I think they are even about their impacr to the league in this era and from this decade.

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Quote from: mich on September 19, 2019, 11:17:25 PM

The three superstars who defined this NBA decade

1. LeBron James
2. Stephen Curry
3. Kevin Durant

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27637433/the-three-superstars-defined-nba-decade

I would say that Stephen Curry has more impact in the last decade as compare to Lebron and Durant. He reinvent and redefine what to be meant by shooting guards and introduce the art of three point shooting. Before that three point shooting is just being used for close games. But when Curry started to focus on the 3's GSW is unstoppable and we haven't seen this kind of potent combination, quick release and deadly. As for Lebron and Durant, we have seen Kobe's game prior to them taking the torch from Bryant.

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Quote from: Questat on September 20, 2019, 03:30:14 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

At his built, you can already tell that 3 point shooting is not his masterpiece, he is a dominant in the inside and driving in the inside due to speed big body and his speed. Lebron's 3 point percentage last season is no impressive which is only 33.9% while Curry has 43.7%, stats extracted from the following sources.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/curryst01.html

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Quote from: Reid on September 20, 2019, 02:43:22 AM

Then Curry came. Trained hard even with his bad shooting position. He just needs that space and because of the new rule taking out the hand check, he managed to make it happen.
Now, it is like a mandatory for a player to shoot threes.

I guess Lebron is not already in his prime anymore and the NBA has changed into different style of play, teams who usually win in this game are good 3 point shooting with great 3 point shooting players. The warriors would still be unbeatable if they have Durant and Thompson healthy in the last Finals, both with curry can shoot a great percentage from the 3 point line while Lebron is not so consistent in his field goal shooting.

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