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November 30, 2019, 11:52:29 AM

It seems like the Toronto Raptors stays the same after Leonard left the city. I can say, Siakam and Vanvleet really has potential when I was watching them in the 2019 NBA finals against GSW. Leonard just took all the credit because he's a superstar.
Raptors can still beat the Bucks in a seven game series this season.


Regular season and playoffs are so different, during the last playoffs, we thought that the bucks could easily beat the Raptors but it was the opposite that has happened, so even if the Raptors are doing well in the regular season, I don't expect they will be as good as last playoffs, I don't even think they will be in the East finals this season, sorry.. that's my opinion too.
It will be very difficult for Barney to reach the East finals but the possibilities is always there since they are competing a great ball from each game that they've take. Though Leonard is the big difference and all those familiar teams from the East are all long been waiting to win the title the defending champ needs to work more trying to defend the title.
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November 30, 2019, 08:54:30 AM
I don't know what Pop could do to change this team around but at this point I feel like they will miss the playoffs
It is too early in the season. Things can still be turned around for SAS. They are a great organization and with the help of Pop, they can fix this slump they are in.

and maybe Pop might want to retire, dude is almost 80 years old, I really hope he doesn't do that, I want to see Pop at least start the next 20 year run with an amazing lineup before he leaves.
He already accomplished a lot in his career. We cannot blame him if he retires.

I also thought they are not a finals contender this season. Even in the Eastern conference finals, I think they can't make it. They lack clutch players that could carry their game in the final minutes of the game.

Do not underestimate this team. They are underestimated last year and they won the chip. Siakam is continuously evolving and improving. With the help of Lowry, Gasul and VanVleet and Ibaka, they can still snatch the Eastern Conference Finals.


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November 30, 2019, 08:49:13 AM

It seems like the Toronto Raptors stays the same after Leonard left the city. I can say, Siakam and Vanvleet really has potential when I was watching them in the 2019 NBA finals against GSW. Leonard just took all the credit because he's a superstar.
Raptors can still beat the Bucks in a seven game series this season.


Which is good.

This is better. They are creating chemistry while Lowry and Ibaka is still injured.
How much more if the two comes back?  Grin It will be a strong Raptors team.

I don't know what Pop could do to change this team around but at this point I feel like they will miss the playoffs and maybe Pop might want to retire, dude is almost 80 years old, I really hope he doesn't do that, I want to see Pop at least start the next 20 year run with an amazing lineup before he leaves.

I feel the same.
I want to see Pops retiring with a good back story. (but he already did)
Maybe just another addition to his hall of fame list of wins.  Grin

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November 30, 2019, 08:07:46 AM

And just when we thought that San Antonio is out of tune, they go and win against Clippers and even taking a lead as much as 20 points. White had a good game with 17 dimes, but it was a complete game from Forbes, Mills and Trey Lyles plus the usual LaMarcus and DeRozan. Good win for them to get back on track.

You can't sleep on the Spurs, they are a legit team with a legit coach, they can beat any team in the NBA, even the best teams now.
Spurs really did a great job to Williams and Paul George as they only scored 5 and 7 points respectively.

on the other game, seems like the Blazers now have a big 3 that are consistent in scoring.
another win at home and these big 3 are scoring well

Melo 23 points and 11 rebounds ( not bad for a per day salary basis) Grin
Lillard 28 points.
CJ McCollum 20 points

I agree, if San Antonio would just be consistent this year they could stay land in the playoffs.

What a game Hassan Whiteside, 10 blocks, setting a record for Portland.

It was a tough battle for Portland though, winning their last 3 games, Melo a tad slow but he is hitting his jump shot now. Rodney Hood also hits some crucial shots going 7 out of 12 from the field to get 19 points.
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November 30, 2019, 08:06:15 AM

It seems like the Toronto Raptors stays the same after Leonard left the city. I can say, Siakam and Vanvleet really has potential when I was watching them in the 2019 NBA finals against GSW. Leonard just took all the credit because he's a superstar.
Raptors can still beat the Bucks in a seven game series this season.


Regular season and playoffs are so different, during the last playoffs, we thought that the bucks could easily beat the Raptors but it was the opposite that has happened, so even if the Raptors are doing well in the regular season, I don't expect they will be as good as last playoffs, I don't even think they will be in the East finals this season, sorry.. that's my opinion too.

I also thought they are not a finals contender this season. Even in the Eastern conference finals, I think they can't make it. They lack clutch players that could carry their game in the final minutes of the game.

I don't think so.
There is still Lowry and Ibaka in their midst. I think they can still make it in the playoffs.
They might not have the clutch player (although there is still Lowry) but they still have their chemistry.
You might also want to add the confidence which they have by now experiencing a Finals game.
They are the champions so they have the capability to make it again.
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November 30, 2019, 07:17:02 AM

It seems like the Toronto Raptors stays the same after Leonard left the city. I can say, Siakam and Vanvleet really has potential when I was watching them in the 2019 NBA finals against GSW. Leonard just took all the credit because he's a superstar.
Raptors can still beat the Bucks in a seven game series this season.


Regular season and playoffs are so different, during the last playoffs, we thought that the bucks could easily beat the Raptors but it was the opposite that has happened, so even if the Raptors are doing well in the regular season, I don't expect they will be as good as last playoffs, I don't even think they will be in the East finals this season, sorry.. that's my opinion too.

I also thought they are not a finals contender this season. Even in the Eastern conference finals, I think they can't make it. They lack clutch players that could carry their game in the final minutes of the game.
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November 30, 2019, 07:09:17 AM

~snip~

Regular season and playoffs are so different, during the last playoffs, we thought that the bucks could easily beat the Raptors but it was the opposite that has happened, so even if the Raptors are doing well in the regular season, I don't expect they will be as good as last playoffs, I don't even think they will be in the East finals this season, sorry.. that's my opinion too.

I as well have a doubt, but judging by their performance this season, they still have a shot at making to the Finals. We all know the regular season and playoffs have different atmosphere, intensity, and strategy.
Just like what you said, one cannot guarantee a win in the playoffs even if they are doing well in the regular season, anything can happen.
And, we are forgetting how good the 76ers, Celtics, and Heat are doing so far. All of these teams are a championship caliber in the East.
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November 30, 2019, 06:37:04 AM

And just when we thought that San Antonio is out of tune, they go and win against Clippers and even taking a lead as much as 20 points. White had a good game with 17 dimes, but it was a complete game from Forbes, Mills and Trey Lyles plus the usual LaMarcus and DeRozan. Good win for them to get back on track.

You can't sleep on the Spurs, they are a legit team with a legit coach, they can beat any team in the NBA, even the best teams now.
Spurs really did a great job to Williams and Paul George as they only scored 5 and 7 points respectively.

on the other game, seems like the Blazers now have a big 3 that are consistent in scoring.
another win at home and these big 3 are scoring well

Melo 23 points and 11 rebounds ( not bad for a per day salary basis) Grin
Lillard 28 points.
CJ McCollum 20 points
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November 30, 2019, 06:21:55 AM
I believe this season's real story is Spurs. I know Spurs are NEVER the real story in NBA talks and they have been champions 5 times in the past 20 years which means they won quarter of all possible championships while playing on playoffs on every single one of them. Yet, people do not really like them the way they like Lakers for example, they have never been that famous or flashy or made the news.

This season they have started so horribly that even I as a fan of the team can't believe how horrible we have been. The defense sucks for sure and I think playing Demar at small forward limits his defensive help whereas they put Bryn Forbes on two guard and he does help on perimeter shooting but his defense lacks as well and LMA is no longer the superstar he is so they always start the games with negative defense rating lineup.

I don't know what Pop could do to change this team around but at this point I feel like they will miss the playoffs and maybe Pop might want to retire, dude is almost 80 years old, I really hope he doesn't do that, I want to see Pop at least start the next 20 year run with an amazing lineup before he leaves.

And just when we thought that San Antonio is out of tune, they go and win against Clippers and even taking a lead as much as 20 points. White had a good game with 17 dimes, but it was a complete game from Forbes, Mills and Trey Lyles plus the usual LaMarcus and DeRozan. Good win for them to get back on track.
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November 30, 2019, 06:03:24 AM

It seems like the Toronto Raptors stays the same after Leonard left the city. I can say, Siakam and Vanvleet really has potential when I was watching them in the 2019 NBA finals against GSW. Leonard just took all the credit because he's a superstar.
Raptors can still beat the Bucks in a seven game series this season.


Regular season and playoffs are so different, during the last playoffs, we thought that the bucks could easily beat the Raptors but it was the opposite that has happened, so even if the Raptors are doing well in the regular season, I don't expect they will be as good as last playoffs, I don't even think they will be in the East finals this season, sorry.. that's my opinion too.
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November 30, 2019, 12:52:35 AM

And they did win.
4 winning streak now and they still win even with handicap of +3.5.
Siakam didn't offer much with the offense but he still made a double double of 10 points and 13 rebounds.
Powell is the one who stepped up and so does VanVleet. This guys is really making some good chemistry this season.
I guess their championship gave them more confidence and that is why they could win even with the power teams in the West.


It seems like the Toronto Raptors stays the same after Leonard left the city. I can say, Siakam and Vanvleet really has potential when I was watching them in the 2019 NBA finals against GSW. Leonard just took all the credit because he's a superstar.
Raptors can still beat the Bucks in a seven game series this season.
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November 29, 2019, 10:14:54 PM
When it comes to betting on the Lakers, its best to wait and bet live during the game as you will get better value. I have hit with two of their games recently betting live and getting +100 odds. Tonight I like the Magic to upset the Raptors as everyone will be on the Raptors after the Celtics lost to the Nets so I'm taking the Magic at the ML and to cover the +3.5 spread. Suns could also cause an upset and Cavs look good to cover the huge spread.

I would not bet against toronto right now.  That team is on a mission.  If anything bet the over.  Toronto wont play at Orlando's slow pace and the over under is real low.  Toronto is one of those teams where I feel vegas doesnt trust them but they are way better than people give them credit for.  Siakam is a superstar in the making.  Dude is a beast.

And they did win.
4 winning streak now and they still win even with handicap of +3.5.
Siakam didn't offer much with the offense but he still made a double double of 10 points and 13 rebounds.
Powell is the one who stepped up and so does VanVleet. This guys is really making some good chemistry this season.
I guess their championship gave them more confidence and that is why they could win even with the power teams in the West.
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November 29, 2019, 06:28:11 PM
Well Pelicans did give the Lakers all they can handle, but it's Lakers fault for not moving the ball early that's why they struggles, and it nearly cost them the game.

But the thing is that they recovered, keep their winning records intact. But I must say that if they play like this against the like Clippers they are going to lose by big margin.

Agree. Lakers feel relax during the early phase of the game. And not just that, their shooting percentage from 1Q to 3Q isn't that impressive. Kuzma just blows up his steam during the last quarter. It's unusual to see Lakers like that so it means Pelicans is doing great to their defense.

But aside from that and as I mentioned, Pelicans looks like they want to show something to AD and the Lakers as we all know what happens between these two teams. I believed that contribute to the firepower of Pelicans that night.
A usual phase for Lakers team but this time i do see that theyre struggling? Those kuzma's 3s on 4Q does really help out and that last seconds turn over is thrilling.
They should not retain that kind of early phase because not all the times they would able to cope up the gap but some of Lakers game do really have this kind of
scoring phase.They start up so relaxed but it do have accompanied some risk but well Lakers proves out on what they are capable of.
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November 29, 2019, 06:24:48 PM
When it comes to betting on the Lakers, its best to wait and bet live during the game as you will get better value. I have hit with two of their games recently betting live and getting +100 odds. Tonight I like the Magic to upset the Raptors as everyone will be on the Raptors after the Celtics lost to the Nets so I'm taking the Magic at the ML and to cover the +3.5 spread. Suns could also cause an upset and Cavs look good to cover the huge spread.

I would not bet against toronto right now.  That team is on a mission.  If anything bet the over.  Toronto wont play at Orlando's slow pace and the over under is real low.  Toronto is one of those teams where I feel vegas doesnt trust them but they are way better than people give them credit for.  Siakam is a superstar in the making.  Dude is a beast.
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November 29, 2019, 06:16:57 PM
When it comes to betting on the Lakers, its best to wait and bet live during the game as you will get better value. I have hit with two of their games recently betting live and getting +100 odds. Tonight I like the Magic to upset the Raptors as everyone will be on the Raptors after the Celtics lost to the Nets so I'm taking the Magic at the ML and to cover the +3.5 spread. Suns could also cause an upset and Cavs look good to cover the huge spread.
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November 29, 2019, 05:59:49 PM
Well Pelicans did give the Lakers all they can handle, but it's Lakers fault for not moving the ball early that's why they struggles, and it nearly cost them the game.

But the thing is that they recovered, keep their winning records intact. But I must say that if they play like this against the like Clippers they are going to lose by big margin.

Agree. Lakers feel relax during the early phase of the game. And not just that, their shooting percentage from 1Q to 3Q isn't that impressive. Kuzma just blows up his steam during the last quarter. It's unusual to see Lakers like that so it means Pelicans is doing great to their defense.

But aside from that and as I mentioned, Pelicans looks like they want to show something to AD and the Lakers as we all know what happens between these two teams. I believed that contribute to the firepower of Pelicans that night.
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November 29, 2019, 05:50:36 PM
[...]
The way the Lakers played the game today, I can see they are going to be the team to beat this season. How they managed to win against the Pelicans makes me believe they are really a championship contender.

Though Lakers is a true contender this year, winning over the Pelican is not the measuring stick. With the amount of talent, it should have been an easy win for the Lakers but instead, they have been trailing for 3 quarters. It is good that they have been able to rally on the 4th leading to a win.

So far, the Lakers have won games but lose to tougher teams like Toronto and Clippers. Their strengths and weaknesses will be revealed when they face top teams like Celtics, Bucks, and Nuggets.



Well Pelicans did give the Lakers all they can handle, but it's Lakers fault for not moving the ball early that's why they struggles, and it nearly cost them the game.

But the thing is that they recovered, keep their winning records intact. But I must say that if they play like this against the like Clippers they are going to lose by big margin.
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November 29, 2019, 03:46:51 PM
I believe this season's real story is Spurs. I know Spurs are NEVER the real story in NBA talks and they have been champions 5 times in the past 20 years which means they won quarter of all possible championships while playing on playoffs on every single one of them. Yet, people do not really like them the way they like Lakers for example, they have never been that famous or flashy or made the news.

This season they have started so horribly that even I as a fan of the team can't believe how horrible we have been. The defense sucks for sure and I think playing Demar at small forward limits his defensive help whereas they put Bryn Forbes on two guard and he does help on perimeter shooting but his defense lacks as well and LMA is no longer the superstar he is so they always start the games with negative defense rating lineup.

I don't know what Pop could do to change this team around but at this point I feel like they will miss the playoffs and maybe Pop might want to retire, dude is almost 80 years old, I really hope he doesn't do that, I want to see Pop at least start the next 20 year run with an amazing lineup before he leaves.

San antonio doesnt make waves like the lakers do because of the location.  San antonio doesnt have the population like that of a Los Angeles or New York.  Pop is a great coach but he was also blessed with some incredible talent over that time. Between the admiral and timmy.  Throw in parker and Ginobili and so.e great role players and you can see why they won so much. 
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November 29, 2019, 01:52:04 PM
I believe this season's real story is Spurs. I know Spurs are NEVER the real story in NBA talks and they have been champions 5 times in the past 20 years which means they won quarter of all possible championships while playing on playoffs on every single one of them. Yet, people do not really like them the way they like Lakers for example, they have never been that famous or flashy or made the news.

This season they have started so horribly that even I as a fan of the team can't believe how horrible we have been. The defense sucks for sure and I think playing Demar at small forward limits his defensive help whereas they put Bryn Forbes on two guard and he does help on perimeter shooting but his defense lacks as well and LMA is no longer the superstar he is so they always start the games with negative defense rating lineup.

I don't know what Pop could do to change this team around but at this point I feel like they will miss the playoffs and maybe Pop might want to retire, dude is almost 80 years old, I really hope he doesn't do that, I want to see Pop at least start the next 20 year run with an amazing lineup before he leaves.
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November 29, 2019, 12:25:42 PM
[...]
The way the Lakers played the game today, I can see they are going to be the team to beat this season. How they managed to win against the Pelicans makes me believe they are really a championship contender.

Though Lakers is a true contender this year, winning over the Pelican is not the measuring stick. With the amount of talent, it should have been an easy win for the Lakers but instead, they have been trailing for 3 quarters. It is good that they have been able to rally on the 4th leading to a win.

So far, the Lakers have won games but lose to tougher teams like Toronto and Clippers. Their strengths and weaknesses will be revealed when they face top teams like Celtics, Bucks, and Nuggets.

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