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February 05, 2024, 02:06:44 AM
According this website _ https://hoopshype.com/player/tony-snell/salary/

His total earnings in basketball is $53,175,288 ($64,432,174*).. if he was able to handle his finances well, he should not struggle after his NBA life.
That's a lot yes but I think that most of them are going to taxes, commissions of their agents, etc. And it's possible that he has saved a bit but then don't have managed to be financially well.

It's a common issue for many NBA players and athletes.

NBA is truly purely business, if you don't play your cards well, you'll end up not getting a team.
So back up plan is always necessary, like having a livelihood after basketball, easiest is to start a business since he was able to raise a capaital.

Well, there are only few athletes who has been thinking forward ahead of their career. Those who understand the business, the probability of the length of their career, and how to handle their money in general. Some former superstars became broke because they fail to manage their finances.
One of the most successful athlete or NBA player who are most likely not going to get broke is LeBron as he have built an empire already outside the league.
I understand, a guy like Tony Snell are just a mediocre player in the NBA, but their salary is more than enough to make another living outside his career.
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February 04, 2024, 11:01:40 PM
According this website _ https://hoopshype.com/player/tony-snell/salary/

His total earnings in basketball is $53,175,288 ($64,432,174*).. if he was able to handle his finances well, he should not struggle after his NBA life.
That's a lot yes but I think that most of them are going to taxes, commissions of their agents, etc. And it's possible that he has saved a bit but then don't have managed to be financially well.

It's a common issue for many NBA players and athletes.

Then I guess he has to adjust his lifestyle as he is not making this huge money anymore. Let's say he has to pay for the expsenses you've mentioned, say 50% was for that, then maybe he was able to keep $30m in his career in the NBA, that's still a lot of money if he was able to manage it right.

NBA is truly purely business, if you don't play your cards well, you'll end up not getting a team.
So back up plan is always necessary, like having a livelihood after basketball, easiest is to start a business since he was able to raise a capaital.
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February 04, 2024, 08:11:46 PM
Well there goes the Chicago Bulls chances of moving on from Zach Lavine and starting our rebuild.  Out for the rest of the season is a blow period, but it's no secret both parties want to go their own way...now, that's taken a major hit for this year and next.  The injury alone will cost us big time when we try and trade him next year. I was even seeing ideas of trading for Lebron floating around.. Sucks to be a bulls fan!!

Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,


I mean there's always all sorts of rumors of course when it comes to trades and around the trade deadline, of course.  Lebron is a cash cow of course, but dude the La Lakers are one of the most historic franchises in the world of sports, and they make TONS of money regardless (sort of like the Chicago Cubs).  I'm not saying Lebron doesn't bring more money in ..of course he does..but at some point it's not just about the money, it's about long term success..and Lebron is nearing the end of his career.  The Lakers are not hooked to Lebron and if the right trade came along they'd do.  He'd do it too because the Lakers are not a championship caliber team.
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February 04, 2024, 07:56:09 PM
Well there goes the Chicago Bulls chances of moving on from Zach Lavine and starting our rebuild.  Out for the rest of the season is a blow period, but it's no secret both parties want to go their own way...now, that's taken a major hit for this year and next.  The injury alone will cost us big time when we try and trade him next year. I was even seeing ideas of trading for Lebron floating around.. Sucks to be a bulls fan!!

Never heard that rumor about trading for LeBron James but right now LeBron James is still the cash cow for the Los Angeles Lakers which is why they can not get rid of LeBron James many want him to the team not because of getting the championship, but the money that LeBron will bring into the table for having him in the team will surely give the team boost in the money kid of thing the budget and salary for sure,


That hurt the Warriors. However, despite his 60 points performance, a lot of speculators aren't happy with it because he aren't sharing the ball well.

Curry had 38 attempts overall and made 23 of those. He is hot with 60% shooting percentage, but I understand why some are frustrated, maybe if he were able to win that game, his many attempts wouldn't matter. Klay Thompson was just lost in the picture, I think this guy should also be traded. IMO, he was already given enough time to get back to his old self but he is not the same anymore. 4-19 shooting? That's too bad, if he could have improve a bit, maybe they were able to win the game.

Despite his impressive 60% shooting percentage, the outcome of the game might have shifted the narrative. Klay Thompson's struggles, going 4-19, add to the team's challenges. The idea of trading Thompson is brought up, emphasizing the need for improvement.

In the dynamic world of basketball, opinions on player performances and team strategies vary. The Warriors' situation sparks discussions about balancing individual brilliance with team dynamics for a successful outcome.

Just like the others who were exploding and close to making their team a great contender in the league but then injuries got them and their skills and value has crashed dramatically because of it. now they no longer have any plan for him in terms of their progress in the team rather they are interested in trading him now. Man, they were unstoppable a few years back with DeRozan and Lonzo Ball, but because of their consistent injuries, their team didn't even make it to the semi-finals.

It's truly unfortunate to see players like DeRozan and Lonzo Ball, who once played pivotal roles in making their team formidable, face setbacks due to injuries. Injuries can indeed have a significant impact on a player's skills and overall value, altering the trajectory of their careers.

The team's focus shifting from future plans to considering trades reflects the challenges of managing player injuries in professional sports. It's a reminder of the unpredictable nature of the game and the resilience required to navigate such obstacles. Here's hoping for the best for these players and the team as they navigate this phase.
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February 04, 2024, 07:08:09 PM
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Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season.  The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.

Just like the others who were exploding and close to making their team a great contender in the league but then injuries got them and their skills and value has crashed dramatically because of it. now they no longer have any plan for him in terms of their progress in the team rather they are interested in trading him now. Man, they were unstoppable a few years back with DeRozan and Lonzo Ball, but because of their consistent injuries, their team didn't even make it to the semi-finals.
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February 04, 2024, 07:03:01 PM
That's sad.  Embarrassed

I do understand if no one had helped him. But just for the sake of what he has contributed to his former teams, they're a lot of it but still business is business I guess.

Maybe some exemption can be made just for him to be eligible let it do alone by the management.
We can't blame that no team would sign him since his numbers aren't really valuable for them.
Looking at his stats, (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/snellto01.html), nothing much in here, just a regular player that could and anyone that is young could contribute like this, maybe even with lower salary.
For the sake of his welfare and his family but then, yeah, it's all pure business and there's no need for any compassion just to take the eligiblity of the guy.  Undecided

According this website _ https://hoopshype.com/player/tony-snell/salary/

His total earnings in basketball is $53,175,288 ($64,432,174*).. if he was able to handle his finances well, he should not struggle after his NBA life.
That's a lot yes but I think that most of them are going to taxes, commissions of their agents, etc. And it's possible that he has saved a bit but then don't have managed to be financially well.

It's a common issue for many NBA players and athletes.
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February 04, 2024, 06:20:41 PM
While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season. 
They're trying to dispose what they want to dump and that's true that they won't get anywhere close to the trade that they want.

The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.
I agree with that.
It's just an estimation and who knows if the injury won't heal at that accurate timeframe that the doctors have given him. And it's certainly possible that it can go longer.
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February 04, 2024, 05:41:26 PM
While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Bulls won't get anywhere close to what they are looking to get from him.  With him being hurt who is going to trade a better player for someone who might end up being shut down for the rest of the season.  The report says 6 or so weeks but you never know with these types of things how his body will respond.  His value went down significantly with that injury.
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February 04, 2024, 05:33:41 PM
While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Zach will miss all the remaining games of the season. This means all strong teams that want more reinforcements this season won't accept him anymore. The Lakers are the favored team to get him but they will surely reject a Zach trade at this point.
No point of getting him if he' just going to destroy the bench and make a hole out of sitting.

Maybe some teams that are rebuilding are willing to accept but the problem is Zach's commitment.
That's right, a big problem for the team that are going to accept him this time. But if it's up as a business and there will be some locked in trades already, good for him and Bulls.

Zach said before that he wants to join a good team so it means not a rebuilding team.
Given with that, it's going to take to the next season for him to do that.
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February 04, 2024, 04:30:11 PM
First with Joel Embiid scoring 70 points, then Luka Doncic getting 73 points, and now Curry with 60 points as well. We are maybe entering a new era of basketball where ISO could be coming back in a different format where stars are taking most of the shots and just taking the load, not in an isolation matter of the scoring ways but more like field goal attempt ways.

The thing about these type of eras is that sometimes it looks like it will stay, like it is the new NBA thing, but then it doesn't pan out. Remember the years when Westbrook was doing TD season averages? Everyone said that became the norm, and plenty of other players had so many, became common and all, but looking at it now, it is not all that extra common, so maybe this one will fizzle out too.

Defense is just terrible and doesn't exist anymore.  Points totals are getting shattered.  For those 3 players there are not any real good options after them.  Embid is just dominant and the game runs through him.  Same with Luka, with steph I think he is just getting fed up that his squad can't score without him.  The dynasty that was the Warriors is over.
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February 04, 2024, 03:57:36 PM
I’ve never been a big Trae Young fan, but in the last week he’s beaten LeBron James, Stephen Curry, & Kevin’s Durant. No matter the circumstances, that’s impressive. If he’d just shave his head and sign to a different team he wouldn’t be half bad.
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February 04, 2024, 03:25:33 PM
First with Joel Embiid scoring 70 points, then Luka Doncic getting 73 points, and now Curry with 60 points as well. We are maybe entering a new era of basketball where ISO could be coming back in a different format where stars are taking most of the shots and just taking the load, not in an isolation matter of the scoring ways but more like field goal attempt ways.

The thing about these type of eras is that sometimes it looks like it will stay, like it is the new NBA thing, but then it doesn't pan out. Remember the years when Westbrook was doing TD season averages? Everyone said that became the norm, and plenty of other players had so many, became common and all, but looking at it now, it is not all that extra common, so maybe this one will fizzle out too.
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February 04, 2024, 11:13:48 AM

Yeah for some reason Dallas totally fell apart after that great 1st quarter.
Milwaukee finished the 2nd on a 15:0 run and also had a 14:0 run in the 3rd, you can't show yourself in front of your home crowd like that.
Dallas never got Gianni under control, he could score at will so it seemed. Maxi Kleber is a decent defender in my opinion but against the greek freak he looked like a child that is playing with the big boys.
Still it was surprising that Dallas took such a big lead in the first place. They are still without Kyrie, that's a lot of points they are missing from him. Sure others step up but it's hard to replace him, especially against teams that have many offensive weapons. With Dallas it's easy to predict what's happening. It's Luka shootings, Luka drives or Luka makes the pass to an open shooter, that's pretty much it. With Kyrie they would have double this action.


This is the problem of the Dallas. They are always just compensating on lack of defense with the monster scoring of Doncic that usually always work against the team that will match their aggression.

It’s just bad matchup for them the Bucks since they have 2 scorer that is on fire that time that cover both inside and outside shooting. I believe Bucks can’t beat the Dallas without Lillard pestering them aside from Giannis unstoppable offense since Doncic can always cover the score being made by Giannis if they are just the only two toe to toe on scoring. This is why Kyrie Irving plays an important role before on Mavs success since he is the one helping Doncic to create some space and score when needed.
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February 04, 2024, 11:07:18 AM
This game between the Dallas Mavericks and the Bucks was funny, in the first period the Mavericks managed to win by a big difference in points, something like 24 points difference. When you see a team scoring 44 points in the first period and the opponent only managing to score 20 points, then anyone can think that the team that scored 44 points will be able to win the game with some ease. but what we saw in the second period was very shocking, the bucks scored 40 points, they improved a lot in performance compared to the first period, and the most shocking part is that the mavericks only scored just 21 points, they dropped a lot in performance compared to In the second period, I don't understand what the hell happened to them that in the first period they managed to score 44 points and in the second period they dropped a lot in performance to the point of only being able to score 21 points

In the third period I thought the Mavericks were going to improve a lot, but the ones who maintained the improvement in the second period were the Bucks who managed to keep the momentum going by winning and scoring 33 points. in other words, the bucks didn't have much of a drop in performance since they managed to recover in the second period, they also did well in the third period and in the fourth period and again managed to score a lot of points, which showed that something out of the ordinary must have happened in the First period they didn't perform well, but then they managed to recover and won the game with an advantage of 12 points. NBA is a surprising league


Yeah for some reason Dallas totally fell apart after that great 1st quarter.
Milwaukee finished the 2nd on a 15:0 run and also had a 14:0 run in the 3rd, you can't show yourself in front of your home crowd like that.
Dallas never got Gianni under control, he could score at will so it seemed. Maxi Kleber is a decent defender in my opinion but against the greek freak he looked like a child that is playing with the big boys.
Still it was surprising that Dallas took such a big lead in the first place. They are still without Kyrie, that's a lot of points they are missing from him. Sure others step up but it's hard to replace him, especially against teams that have many offensive weapons. With Dallas it's easy to predict what's happening. It's Luka shootings, Luka drives or Luka makes the pass to an open shooter, that's pretty much it. With Kyrie they would have double this action.
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February 04, 2024, 09:17:40 AM
This game between the Dallas Mavericks and the Bucks was funny, in the first period the Mavericks managed to win by a big difference in points, something like 24 points difference. When you see a team scoring 44 points in the first period and the opponent only managing to score 20 points, then anyone can think that the team that scored 44 points will be able to win the game with some ease. but what we saw in the second period was very shocking, the bucks scored 40 points, they improved a lot in performance compared to the first period, and the most shocking part is that the mavericks only scored just 21 points, they dropped a lot in performance compared to In the second period, I don't understand what the hell happened to them that in the first period they managed to score 44 points and in the second period they dropped a lot in performance to the point of only being able to score 21 points

In the third period I thought the Mavericks were going to improve a lot, but the ones who maintained the improvement in the second period were the Bucks who managed to keep the momentum going by winning and scoring 33 points. in other words, the bucks didn't have much of a drop in performance since they managed to recover in the second period, they also did well in the third period and in the fourth period and again managed to score a lot of points, which showed that something out of the ordinary must have happened in the First period they didn't perform well, but then they managed to recover and won the game with an advantage of 12 points. NBA is a surprising league

Lakers managed to win, in my opinion they had an acceptable performance, in the first period they managed to win by 2 points, in the second period they lost by a difference of 2 points, in the third period they lost again by a difference of 6 points, but in the In the fourth period they managed to win by a difference of 14 points and thanks to that they managed to win the game, which is why I consider that they had an acceptable performance. It wasn't a crushing victory, but what matters is that they won
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February 04, 2024, 07:44:30 AM
While the trade rumors for Zach Lavine is there, he's going to undergo a surgery this coming week and he'll miss tons of games.
The recovery period could be for max of 6 months or possible to be more than that. If I'm the owner of the team, I'd definitely just trade him somewhere else and will take someone who's better than him. But will there be a team that's willing to take him now with that condition?

Zach will miss all the remaining games of the season. This means all strong teams that want more reinforcements this season won't accept him anymore. The Lakers are the favored team to get him but they will surely reject a Zach trade at this point. Maybe some teams that are rebuilding are willing to accept but the problem is Zach's commitment. Zach said before that he wants to join a good team so it means not a rebuilding team.

Sixers is having a hard time without Embiid. They are already down to 25 against Nets. It looks like an early accepted loss today.
Luckily we got one more game on TV tonight. Lakers at Knicks, this should be a fun game. Knicks is going great lately, they have 9 games win streak. Randle is out unfortunately, but Brunson is boosting his stats. I wonder if Lakers can stop them. I saw LeBron's trade speculations, I don't think it's related but he's still questionable in injury report. AD is same (for injury, not trade) as well.

Philly is really different without their main man. The team is offensively used to the presence of Embiid. The Lakers stopped the New York Knicks at home. Randle and Anunoby were both missing and it cost them their win streak. But the Lakers were shooting with high efficiency even if the Knicks had 20 more attempts.
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February 04, 2024, 07:12:07 AM
Sixers is having a hard time without Embiid. They are already down to 25 against Nets. It looks like an early accepted loss today.
Luckily we got one more game on TV tonight. Lakers at Knicks, this should be a fun game. Knicks is going great lately, they have 9 games win streak. Randle is out unfortunately, but Brunson is boosting his stats. I wonder if Lakers can stop them. I saw LeBron's trade speculations, I don't think it's related but he's still questionable in injury report. AD is same (for injury, not trade) as well.

The Sixers did well in the last quarter. But it was not enough to win against the Brooklyn Nets. And even though they definitely did not give up till the end, it did look like a loss for them from a pretty early time before the matches actually had ended.

Lakers went big against Knicks. Especially in the final quarter of the match. They really made a comeback in my opinion. Because the match could have gone either way. And the Knicks were actually in the lead in that match. The Lakers performed really well in the last quarter. But I can't say that was unexpected as well. The Lakers had a very good overall performance from the team.
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February 04, 2024, 06:06:35 AM
Meanwhile, Steph Curry scores 60 points and yet they've lost to the Atlanta Hawks. Kuminga's streak of 20+ points or more in the last 7-8 games has ended. Klay Thompson has 10 points (ouch).

That hurt the Warriors. However, despite his 60 points performance, a lot of speculators aren't happy with it because he aren't sharing the ball well.

Curry had 38 attempts overall and made 23 of those. He is hot with 60% shooting percentage, but I understand why some are frustrated, maybe if he were able to win that game, his many attempts wouldn't matter. Klay Thompson was just lost in the picture, I think this guy should also be traded. IMO, he was already given enough time to get back to his old self but he is not the same anymore. 4-19 shooting? That's too bad, if he could have improve a bit, maybe they were able to win the game.

Klay these days really is a gamble.
Only in 1 or 2 of 5 games he does actually perform, the rest he looks just awful.
And he actually wonders why the Warriors don't want to pay him what he is hoping for. Still I think they won't trade him, unless somebody makes a good offer including draft picks but if he doesn't accept considerably less money he will go into free agency and play somewhere else next season.
With performances like this it's also hard to make yourself interesting for other teams. Klay is not know for leadership or mentorship, just for shooting and to be a 3-and-D player. Since the 3 is not falling and he is getting slow on D, what is making him a target for other teams now?



I didn't notice his defense. I think he isn't really known as a good defender. People sees his good 3 point shooting, and there are times in the past playoffs before he got injured seriously, that he was the reason why they were able to come back and win the series. There's a name "GAME 6 KLAY", and it's dedicated for him because he sometimes act like a cheat mode on his game and shots with a high level of accuracy, now, we haven't seen that anymore.

In short, Klay's performance has now declined, hence his value will follow. He will not be traded since he will become a free agent after this season, after that, we will know if the Warriors are still interested in keeping him but most likely they'll not waste money for him, unless he'll bargain and would receive a lower salary.
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February 04, 2024, 05:16:54 AM
Meanwhile, Steph Curry scores 60 points and yet they've lost to the Atlanta Hawks. Kuminga's streak of 20+ points or more in the last 7-8 games has ended. Klay Thompson has 10 points (ouch).

That hurt the Warriors. However, despite his 60 points performance, a lot of speculators aren't happy with it because he aren't sharing the ball well.

Curry had 38 attempts overall and made 23 of those. He is hot with 60% shooting percentage, but I understand why some are frustrated, maybe if he were able to win that game, his many attempts wouldn't matter. Klay Thompson was just lost in the picture, I think this guy should also be traded. IMO, he was already given enough time to get back to his old self but he is not the same anymore. 4-19 shooting? That's too bad, if he could have improve a bit, maybe they were able to win the game.

Klay these days really is a gamble.
Only in 1 or 2 of 5 games he does actually perform, the rest he looks just awful.
And he actually wonders why the Warriors don't want to pay him what he is hoping for. Still I think they won't trade him, unless somebody makes a good offer including draft picks but if he doesn't accept considerably less money he will go into free agency and play somewhere else next season.
With performances like this it's also hard to make yourself interesting for other teams. Klay is not know for leadership or mentorship, just for shooting and to be a 3-and-D player. Since the 3 is not falling and he is getting slow on D, what is making him a target for other teams now?

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February 04, 2024, 04:56:23 AM
Meanwhile, Steph Curry scores 60 points and yet they've lost to the Atlanta Hawks. Kuminga's streak of 20+ points or more in the last 7-8 games has ended. Klay Thompson has 10 points (ouch).

That hurt the Warriors. However, despite his 60 points performance, a lot of speculators aren't happy with it because he aren't sharing the ball well.

Curry had 38 attempts overall and made 23 of those. He is hot with 60% shooting percentage, but I understand why some are frustrated, maybe if he were able to win that game, his many attempts wouldn't matter. Klay Thompson was just lost in the picture, I think this guy should also be traded. IMO, he was already given enough time to get back to his old self but he is not the same anymore. 4-19 shooting? That's too bad, if he could have improve a bit, maybe they were able to win the game.

They are totally dismantled and we can see that they are not really clicking together since their core aside for Curry is not contributing anymore. Maybe there's a problem on their teams since they can't convert their games to more better just like what happen before. Kerr need to do a lot of adjustment and maybe he should check his system since its not working anymore. Small ball line up has been expose already so major adjustment is needed and they need to get reliable big man to help them out on defense also in rebounding. For trading Klay maybe its time to do that since maybe they can get more better fresh young talents to develop and to get better team performance. I also think they should trade Green so that they can erase out the toxicity on the team and they could possibly play more better basketball. I know those two guys is huge contributor for their team, but big adjustment is needed so that Warriors could survive for more long years and possibly compete on playoffs.
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