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March 06, 2024, 11:45:44 PM
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The east seems like it's relegated to either Boston or the Bucks.  I really can't see anyone else truly challenging.  Sixers are interesting because embid can straight dominate but injuries.
I still would not count out the Heat. They've been the dark horse and they've eliminated those three teams on a number of occasions now.

Sure, the Celtics and Bucks literally dominate the regular season. However, I agree with you that we shouldn't dismiss the Heat and other Eastern Conference teams. It's worth keeping in mind that great results in the regular season don't guarantee any success in the playoffs. So even teams like the Cavs and Magic could surprise us in the playoffs.

Who would forget the Heat? This team is proven to be a great team in the playoffs, so Bucks and Celtics should fear them as it's a different kind of game in the playoffs and they might be upset again. Well, there's this Magic and Cavs but they aren't proven yet, they need to make it to the playoffs yet and see if they could pass the first round. I'm sure Heat are not going to end with a good standing, so most probably in the first round they'll be the underdog and I'm excited what team they'll play and will cry.
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March 06, 2024, 11:43:25 PM

There are a lot of indiscipline star players that have not lasted their career in the NBA, but LeBron, you'll never hear news that he came partying and making some noise on social media. Instead, he focuses on helping people, building gyms and schools for the kids, so that alone shows how matured he is and kind in thinking of a way to give back to the community.

LeBron may not become a GOAT in the NBA as he always has a lot of haters, but we can't argue that he'll always be remembered as one of the greats once he retires. You see, LeBron is already 39 years old, but if you look at his last 10 seasons in the NBA, his PPG average has never dropped to 25 below.

We can all agree to that, We don't see Lebron James do such suspicious things in his life because he is not showing it publicly if you are a well-known person, and 1 negative trait that the media would tell about him will surely ruin that, and even though he has done some charity works in his life and even if he seems so matured in his entire career that doesn't mean that he will gain the Goat status and even though he got a tons of Haters because it will be determine on his achievements in the sports that he loves,

But I agree that he will be remembered as one of the legends in the sports with that many records in his reputation but the all-time greats still belong to his airness Michael Jordan.


In my defense I said what “may” be the western conference finals matchup. I’d agree that the Timberwolves have just as good or better of a shot to make it. Definitely not OKC though, they’re a first round exit.

Check out this highlight from the Jazz vs Wizards game yesterday. Probably the best play of the year so far.

https://x.com/thepettiestla/status/1764848403920597142

I understand why you are saying such things but we can surely be biased with the teams that we like I have a couple of teams that I like right now and the players that I like aswell, and I truly understand what you meant and I really think it is OK, but there are tons of fans hear that will surely get frustrated when talking about the finals for the NBA, as this is a heated topic right now, and as the Suns won against the Defending champion without Devin Booker.

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March 06, 2024, 10:49:47 PM
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The east seems like it's relegated to either Boston or the Bucks.  I really can't see anyone else truly challenging.  Sixers are interesting because embid can straight dominate but injuries.
I still would not count out the Heat. They've been the dark horse and they've eliminated those three teams on a number of occasions now.

Sure, the Celtics and Bucks literally dominate the regular season. However, I agree with you that we shouldn't dismiss the Heat and other Eastern Conference teams. It's worth keeping in mind that great results in the regular season don't guarantee any success in the playoffs. So even teams like the Cavs and Magic could surprise us in the playoffs.
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March 06, 2024, 05:17:40 PM
The west does seem like more the wildcard at this point......But 1-10 in the west it feels like such a coin toss.  Gonna be a good playoffs out west this year.
True. Teams that are currently in the play-in can take out any team that's in the top 6. I think Nuggets is the most balanced team and will come out on top of the dangerous group. They also have enough experience unlike the Wolves and Thunder.

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The east seems like it's relegated to either Boston or the Bucks.  I really can't see anyone else truly challenging.  Sixers are interesting because embid can straight dominate but injuries.
I still would not count out the Heat. They've been the dark horse and they've eliminated those three teams on a number of occasions now.
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March 06, 2024, 04:01:47 PM
The west does seem like more the wildcard at this point.  The east seems like it's relegated to either Boston or the Bucks.  I really can't see anyone else truly challenging.  Sixers are interesting because embid can straight dominate but injuries.  But 1-10 in the west it feels like such a coin toss.  Gonna be a good playoffs out west this year.
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March 06, 2024, 03:15:54 PM
The western play-in would be historic (I know it sounds funny, but it really is). The Kings, Mavs, Lakers, and Warriors are all on the play-in spot. Kings at the 7th, Mavs at the 8th, Lakers and Warriors at the 9th and 10th. If the playoffs will start right now, Lakers would play the Warriors, Mavs will the play Kings. The winner of the match against the Lakers vs. Warriors will play the loser in the Mavs vs. Kings. The crazy thing is that the standings of these teams are just close to each other. One loss and one win can affect their fate in the upcoming playoffs. We include the Suns in here too, as they are just two wins ahead of the 7th seed. With a few games left in the season, every game counts for these teams. 

What do you think will be the final spot for these teams?

Ya, if the play-in started today it would be one hell of a tournament. Those are all teams I follow and enjoy watching, not to mention they’re all very close to my market. Toss the Suns and the Clippers in there and it’s basically every NBA team surrounding me. I’m sure it’ll change over the next 21 games though.
I agree, it's really hard to predict the games, Lakers and Warriors are former champions and they have a lot of battles in the finals. Lebron and Curry still wanting and hungry for another time. This might go on a 7 game down the wire and as if this is the NBA finals that we are watching. Homecourt advantage will be big here. Same with the Kings vs Mavs. Luka putting incredible numbers, but the Kings have the deep bench, with Fox, Sabonis and Monk, anyone of them can explode anytime and negate Luka's triple double and same with the Lakers vs Warriors, will go on 7 games. But I will go with the Kings here as they have more offensive weapon as compare to Mavs who rely more on Luka and Kyrie.
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March 06, 2024, 11:35:11 AM
The western play-in would be historic (I know it sounds funny, but it really is). The Kings, Mavs, Lakers, and Warriors are all on the play-in spot. Kings at the 7th, Mavs at the 8th, Lakers and Warriors at the 9th and 10th. If the playoffs will start right now, Lakers would play the Warriors, Mavs will the play Kings. The winner of the match against the Lakers vs. Warriors will play the loser in the Mavs vs. Kings. The crazy thing is that the standings of these teams are just close to each other. One loss and one win can affect their fate in the upcoming playoffs. We include the Suns in here too, as they are just two wins ahead of the 7th seed. With a few games left in the season, every game counts for these teams. 

What do you think will be the final spot for these teams?

Ya, if the play-in started today it would be one hell of a tournament. Those are all teams I follow and enjoy watching, not to mention they’re all very close to my market. Toss the Suns and the Clippers in there and it’s basically every NBA team surrounding me. I’m sure it’ll change over the next 21 games though.
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March 06, 2024, 11:16:04 AM
To be fair Alperen was in discussion for being an All-Star this season, he failed to participate by thin margins but he was definitely voted for it by the fans. Which means that Wemby played against an almost all-star player and he was in foul trouble as well. If he wasn't in foul trouble, he wouldn't let Alperen score this much, and he would have scored more himself.

This isn't a post to defend Wemby or anything, Alperen really showed him how weak he is, and just bodying him up was good enough for that. I just meant the difference would have been a bit smaller, like instead of 45-10, it could have been 30-15 for example, that would be realistic approach. Alperen is seriously the future of Rockets if they can keep him, dude is a beast.
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March 06, 2024, 10:42:30 AM
It's the system that gives each players that same chances to showcase their talents, lucky for Alperen that he's being sorrounded by players who can work with the system and a coach who really knows how to execute their design plays, I agree with you he's a superstar in the making, just need to take care of his health and hopefully not to suffer to any major injury, there are many opportunities if he continue to play harder.

This team is not expected to play like how they played this season. I think they'll improve more in the seasons to come. They are still young with an experience coach who promotes better team play than individual game, I would no be surprise if next season or the next, this team will become a playoff contender. They have a good PG, and this guy Brooks brings a lot of energy to the team, if they keep themselves healthy, they'll be able to help this team to grow.
I agree. Having a veteran like Dillon Brooks will help a lot in improving these young players. Houston Rockets is a blooming team, they may not join this playoff season but who knows what they can do in the future. They still have a chance though if they can win in the play-in tournament.
That's why the Rockets gave him a good contract despite the bad publicity about him... And the Rockets are getting what they paid for, he might not be able to provide the offense consistently to the team but the kind of defense he is making and the energy he is bringing, it's enough to make this young team a tough team to play with.


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Alperen Sengun! I love how that guy plays. He ain't selfish and he can make impossible plays too. Just watching his highlights will make one think he is an All-Star caliber. Well, he will be someday. They just need to polish all their skills as a team and I bet they will be fearsome in the future.

He is still young, all he needs to do is to deliver his skills and stay healthy. Time will come, he will become as the star player of the team, and of course he'll get a max contract. The rockets are not paying much on their players, I think the player with the biggest paycheck on the team was VanVleet, so maybe the salary cap is still not at max.

Alperen is making over $3 million this season. Big increase if it will happen.
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/cap/


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Anyway, what a game in Denver earlier. I thought the Nuggets could win that one because they came back from a 22-point lead deficit. The Suns, especially Kevin Durant was so hot in the first half that I thought it would be over in a blowout but the Nuggets pushed hard in both ends of the floor to take the lead. But KD made a three that put the game in overtime and that's where it ended even though they are Nurkic-less after fouling out in the 4th quarter. Still, that's one heck of a comeback from the Nuggets, could've been better if they won the game.

That game is very unpredictable, Nuggets were down big, they were able to comeback and even lead but the game went to OT. During OT, I was thinking they'll continue their momentum but turns out they ended losing in double figures.
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March 06, 2024, 10:02:32 AM
The western play-in would be historic (I know it sounds funny, but it really is). The Kings, Mavs, Lakers, and Warriors are all on the play-in spot. Kings at the 7th, Mavs at the 8th, Lakers and Warriors at the 9th and 10th. If the playoffs will start right now, Lakers would play the Warriors, Mavs will the play Kings. The winner of the match against the Lakers vs. Warriors will play the loser in the Mavs vs. Kings. The crazy thing is that the standings of these teams are just close to each other. One loss and one win can affect their fate in the upcoming playoffs. We include the Suns in here too, as they are just two wins ahead of the 7th seed. With a few games left in the season, every game counts for these teams. 

What do you think will be the final spot for these teams?
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March 06, 2024, 09:48:02 AM
It's the system that gives each players that same chances to showcase their talents, lucky for Alperen that he's being sorrounded by players who can work with the system and a coach who really knows how to execute their design plays, I agree with you he's a superstar in the making, just need to take care of his health and hopefully not to suffer to any major injury, there are many opportunities if he continue to play harder.

This team is not expected to play like how they played this season. I think they'll improve more in the seasons to come. They are still young with an experience coach who promotes better team play than individual game, I would no be surprise if next season or the next, this team will become a playoff contender. They have a good PG, and this guy Brooks brings a lot of energy to the team, if they keep themselves healthy, they'll be able to help this team to grow.
I agree. Having a veteran like Dillon Brooks will help a lot in improving these young players. Houston Rockets is a blooming team, they may not join this playoff season but who knows what they can do in the future. They still have a chance though if they can win in the play-in tournament.

Alperen Sengun! I love how that guy plays. He ain't selfish and he can make impossible plays too. Just watching his highlights will make one think he is an All-Star caliber. Well, he will be someday. They just need to polish all their skills as a team and I bet they will be fearsome in the future.

Anyway, what a game in Denver earlier. I thought the Nuggets could win that one because they came back from a 22-point lead deficit. The Suns, especially Kevin Durant was so hot in the first half that I thought it would be over in a blowout but the Nuggets pushed hard in both ends of the floor to take the lead. But KD made a three that put the game in overtime and that's where it ended even though they are Nurkic-less after fouling out in the 4th quarter. Still, that's one heck of a comeback from the Nuggets, could've been better if they won the game.
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March 06, 2024, 09:44:54 AM
It's the system that gives each players that same chances to showcase their talents, lucky for Alperen that he's being sorrounded by players who can work with the system and a coach who really knows how to execute their design plays, I agree with you he's a superstar in the making, just need to take care of his health and hopefully not to suffer to any major injury, there are many opportunities if he continue to play harder.

This team is not expected to play like how they played this season. I think they'll improve more in the seasons to come. They are still young with an experience coach who promotes better team play than individual game, I would no be surprise if next season or the next, this team will become a playoff contender. They have a good PG, and this guy Brooks brings a lot of energy to the team, if they keep themselves healthy, they'll be able to help this team to grow.

Yes, not bad for the Rockets so far. They still have the chance of getting a spot in the play-in at least.

I have high hopes for the Rockets in the next seasons as well. They should be able to at least secure a clear spot in the playoffs next season. Great coach and Sengun has superstar potential in him. Dillon Brooks is also a good fit and is boosting their confidence.

Hopefully, former top 2 pick, Jalen Green steps up as well. I thought he becomes a star because he has the potential. He's also a high-flyer but it seems like he is having a hard time adjusting in the NBA.
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March 06, 2024, 07:29:00 AM

What a comeback by the Cavs against the league best Celtics!!!
Down 22 points in the final quarter and then going from 71:93 to 103:99, that's actually insane!

At betfair or some site where you can get super high odds I think odds of 500:1 or even more must have been sold, at least a bit.

Well, never give up is kinda fitting here. Just WOW.

Yeah! crazy turnaround and the rally was led by someone who's everyone is not expecting, Dean Wade turned into D-Wade as the NBA announcer described it lol. It took him a lot of confidence shooting those 3s in the 4th and lucky he was feeling it, that's what Dean Wade told the media in the post game interview. Well, I hope nothing but for him to be consistent and earn more minutes. The Cavs might gonna use his ability on the coming games moving forward.
With that kind of odds, there might be a lot of people who put a bet on the Cavs since this team isn't a bad team this season sitting at the 3rd spot in the East, and these people might be overwhelmed by the outcome today. No words to express how lucky these people are, but WOW!

Yes, announcer is calling hi D-Wade, but it looks more of a Kevin Love like performance, hitting those outside shots, even contested, and maybe the Celtics didn't expect that they will make that great comeback.

Unfortunately, I'm not one of those who do the live betting, I thought that the Celtics is going to win because there is no Donovan Mitchell and he is reduce to a mere cheering player in the sideline. But don't understand the Cavs as shown in this game as they are capable of fighting back even if they are down 20+ points in the last 9 minutes of the 4th quarter.
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March 06, 2024, 07:18:05 AM
It's the system that gives each players that same chances to showcase their talents, lucky for Alperen that he's being sorrounded by players who can work with the system and a coach who really knows how to execute their design plays, I agree with you he's a superstar in the making, just need to take care of his health and hopefully not to suffer to any major injury, there are many opportunities if he continue to play harder.

This team is not expected to play like how they played this season. I think they'll improve more in the seasons to come. They are still young with an experience coach who promotes better team play than individual game, I would no be surprise if next season or the next, this team will become a playoff contender. They have a good PG, and this guy Brooks brings a lot of energy to the team, if they keep themselves healthy, they'll be able to help this team to grow.
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March 06, 2024, 07:10:53 AM

What a comeback by the Cavs against the league best Celtics!!!
Down 22 points in the final quarter and then going from 71:93 to 103:99, that's actually insane!

At betfair or some site where you can get super high odds I think odds of 500:1 or even more must have been sold, at least a bit.

Well, never give up is kinda fitting here. Just WOW.

Yeah! crazy turnaround and the rally was led by someone who's everyone is not expecting, Dean Wade turned into D-Wade as the NBA announcer described it lol. It took him a lot of confidence shooting those 3s in the 4th and lucky he was feeling it, that's what Dean Wade told the media in the post game interview. Well, I hope nothing but for him to be consistent and earn more minutes. The Cavs might gonna use his ability on the coming games moving forward.
With that kind of odds, there might be a lot of people who put a bet on the Cavs since this team isn't a bad team this season sitting at the 3rd spot in the East, and these people might be overwhelmed by the outcome today. No words to express how lucky these people are, but WOW!

Celtics won't forget Dean Wade,  Grin. They are on the roll early, and just like what they did to the previous champion Warriors, they put on a offensive barrage. However, the Cavs are on a different mindset, brother Kelce's are watching and so they have to do something about this game and turn it around.

So the Celtics next opponent is the Nuggets. I think this is going to be a very close match, both are coming from a L. And they want to maintain their record specially the Nuggets who are fighting to the best record in the West. While the Celtics will have to move forward and start a new winning streak.

While for sure those who are trying to sort this game during the live event may have that mindset that Boston will again make another blowout win, taking the handicap and wait for the outcome, lucky for those who sided for the Cavs handicappers and especially for those who took the ML while Boston is in control early minute of the 4th, for sure that's a big risk that they'll taking but big nerve gambler can take it and now enjoying whoever they are who manage to place their bets.(Not a big fan of too much risk..hehehe)

Alperen Sengun just put up numbers that no center in history has done before against Wemby. At the same time he held Wemby to 10 points. Every once in a while somebody really exposes Wemby for being young and thin. Tonight was one of those nights. Wemby is still having a hell of a year though and my pick for rookie of the year.
Alperen Sengun said it himself actually: He said Wemby is too tall but not strong yet. He was able to use his shoulders and got around Wemby. And when Spurs didn't double team him, he could score this great. This season, opponents of Rockets usually double teams Alperen Sengun but Popovich chose not to do that and paid for this mistake handsomely. Wemby could block couple of his shots but Alperen was much better overall.
I guess this would be another weakness of Wemby that other teams might explore. Sengun is not really an extraordinary player, although he's been doing impressive stats this season but he is not included in the MVP conversation yet. Getting    45 points and 16 rebounds against Wemby, that's completely a mismatch and Spurs unfortunately have not made the right adjustment to that.

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And Alperen is still so young. Only 21 years and 220 days. He is actually almost 2 months younger than Chet Holmgren.
He is a superstar in the making, thanks to their new coach that they were able to utilize his real talent.

if we look at his previous stats. there was a huge jump in his PPG every season.

9.6, 14.8 and 21.3 this season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sengual01.html

It's the system that gives each players that same chances to showcase their talents, lucky for Alperen that he's being sorrounded by players who can work with the system and a coach who really knows how to execute their design plays, I agree with you he's a superstar in the making, just need to take care of his health and hopefully not to suffer to any major injury, there are many opportunities if he continue to play harder.
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March 06, 2024, 06:13:16 AM
Alperen Sengun just put up numbers that no center in history has done before against Wemby. At the same time he held Wemby to 10 points. Every once in a while somebody really exposes Wemby for being young and thin. Tonight was one of those nights. Wemby is still having a hell of a year though and my pick for rookie of the year.
Alperen Sengun said it himself actually: He said Wemby is too tall but not strong yet. He was able to use his shoulders and got around Wemby. And when Spurs didn't double team him, he could score this great. This season, opponents of Rockets usually double teams Alperen Sengun but Popovich chose not to do that and paid for this mistake handsomely. Wemby could block couple of his shots but Alperen was much better overall.
I guess this would be another weakness of Wemby that other teams might explore. Sengun is not really an extraordinary player, although he's been doing impressive stats this season but he is not included in the MVP conversation yet. Getting    45 points and 16 rebounds against Wemby, that's completely a mismatch and Spurs unfortunately have not made the right adjustment to that.

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And Alperen is still so young. Only 21 years and 220 days. He is actually almost 2 months younger than Chet Holmgren.
He is a superstar in the making, thanks to their new coach that they were able to utilize his real talent.

if we look at his previous stats. there was a huge jump in his PPG every season.

9.6, 14.8 and 21.3 this season.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sengual01.html
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March 06, 2024, 05:58:55 AM
Alperen Sengun just put up numbers that no center in history has done before against Wemby. At the same time he held Wemby to 10 points. Every once in a while somebody really exposes Wemby for being young and thin. Tonight was one of those nights. Wemby is still having a hell of a year though and my pick for rookie of the year.

Exactly, as much as Sengun is still very young as well, but he has a moved that he really developed just for himself whether in the post, or going in the basket. He also loves to go to his left and that's why he is sometimes hard to stop if there are no double teaming like what the Spurs do here.

Rookie of the year is very close between the two, Chet's team is doing good and he had good numbers are well in the first half of the season. But there was a game between the two that Wemby won and this might struck for those who are going to vote for this years ROTY award that can sway on the favor of Wemby. Checking at the odds, currently at 1.02 and Chet 17.00. Wow I though that is close though.
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March 06, 2024, 05:29:13 AM
Alperen Sengun just put up numbers that no center in history has done before against Wemby. At the same time he held Wemby to 10 points. Every once in a while somebody really exposes Wemby for being young and thin. Tonight was one of those nights. Wemby is still having a hell of a year though and my pick for rookie of the year.
Alperen Sengun said it himself actually: He said Wemby is too tall but not strong yet. He was able to use his shoulders and got around Wemby. And when Spurs didn't double team him, he could score this great. This season, opponents of Rockets usually double teams Alperen Sengun but Popovich chose not to do that and paid for this mistake handsomely. Wemby could block couple of his shots but Alperen was much better overall. And Alperen is still so young. Only 21 years and 220 days. He is actually almost 2 months younger than Chet Holmgren.
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March 06, 2024, 05:17:33 AM

What a comeback by the Cavs against the league best Celtics!!!
Down 22 points in the final quarter and then going from 71:93 to 103:99, that's actually insane!

At betfair or some site where you can get super high odds I think odds of 500:1 or even more must have been sold, at least a bit.

Well, never give up is kinda fitting here. Just WOW.

Yeah! crazy turnaround and the rally was led by someone who's everyone is not expecting, Dean Wade turned into D-Wade as the NBA announcer described it lol. It took him a lot of confidence shooting those 3s in the 4th and lucky he was feeling it, that's what Dean Wade told the media in the post game interview. Well, I hope nothing but for him to be consistent and earn more minutes. The Cavs might gonna use his ability on the coming games moving forward.
With that kind of odds, there might be a lot of people who put a bet on the Cavs since this team isn't a bad team this season sitting at the 3rd spot in the East, and these people might be overwhelmed by the outcome today. No words to express how lucky these people are, but WOW!

Celtics won't forget Dean Wade,  Grin. They are on the roll early, and just like what they did to the previous champion Warriors, they put on a offensive barrage. However, the Cavs are on a different mindset, brother Kelce's are watching and so they have to do something about this game and turn it around.

So the Celtics next opponent is the Nuggets. I think this is going to be a very close match, both are coming from a L. And they want to maintain their record specially the Nuggets who are fighting to the best record in the West. While the Celtics will have to move forward and start a new winning streak.
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March 06, 2024, 03:10:25 AM

What a comeback by the Cavs against the league best Celtics!!!
Down 22 points in the final quarter and then going from 71:93 to 103:99, that's actually insane!

At betfair or some site where you can get super high odds I think odds of 500:1 or even more must have been sold, at least a bit.

Well, never give up is kinda fitting here. Just WOW.

Yeah! crazy turnaround and the rally was led by someone who's everyone is not expecting, Dean Wade turned into D-Wade as the NBA announcer described it lol. It took him a lot of confidence shooting those 3s in the 4th and lucky he was feeling it, that's what Dean Wade told the media in the post game interview. Well, I hope nothing but for him to be consistent and earn more minutes. The Cavs might gonna use his ability on the coming games moving forward.
With that kind of odds, there might be a lot of people who put a bet on the Cavs since this team isn't a bad team this season sitting at the 3rd spot in the East, and these people might be overwhelmed by the outcome today. No words to express how lucky these people are, but WOW!
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