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January 13, 2024, 03:21:33 PM
Poor Scoot Henderson. He just set a record for the lowest two game +/- with a -83. It’s definitely not his year. I hope he gets it figured out. Probably the biggest bust of all time as it stands now.
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January 13, 2024, 10:16:20 AM
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That's how the Bucks valued Giannis that even his brother get signed just to retain Giannis. With the contract extention he signed last year, that could also mean that Thanasis will continue to be with the team for a while. Besides, if I am in charge on the Bucks to sign a players, I would still do the same as Giannis is still on his prime and he is making the Bucks a championship team.
It's funny because Giannis demanded a better roster before the contract extension but he still wants to keep the useless Thanasis? He was instrumental in that championship run but he has to stop "blackmailing" the management.

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It does not only happen with the Bucks, as team like Miami Heat had signed player that aren't even playing at all. If you still remember Udonis Haslem, he's been with the Heat as part of the roster but we didn't even see him play, but that was before he announced his retirement last year.

Udonis Haslem, NBA's oldest player, retires from Heat after 20 seasons
It's a completely different case. This is like Heat paying tribute to Haslem's past contributions. What's Thanasis done for the Bucks to deserve that spot?
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January 13, 2024, 09:42:39 AM

This is why NEPOTISM is a bad thing. Cheesy

Thanasis is playing like he's even worse than a G-league player. I just don't know why the Bucks are still choosing to sign him. Maybe because of Giannis? He's like the "Tacko Fall of the Celtics" where whenever he's playing, fans are cheering about him when in fact, he might be one of the worst players in the league right now. Cheesy Anyway, he will continue to be a laughingstock in the league for some time. I guess it's good so that the fans will be more entertained.  Grin Grin

There is no "maybe because of his brother" in the Thanasis question.
It is very well known that he is only signed with the Bucks to give Giannis a family member in the organisation.

When Giannis came to the league he was very home sick and missed his family. He was actually almost ready to leave Milwaukee and return to Greece at that time because he felt so bad.
Once they got the visa for his family to visit him it became better but family is and was always a very big factor for him.
And to keep him happy the Bucks would do anything, even giving up a valuable roster spot.

Obviously Thanasis doesn't have the talent to even come from the bench in the NBA, he wouldn't even start at a good team in Europe.
Even Kostas, who I think is a slightly better player than Thanasis, only averages around 7 points for Panathinaikos in the Greek league and 3 points in the Euroleague. That should tell everything.


That's how the Bucks valued Giannis that even his brother get signed just to retain Giannis. With the contract extention he signed last year, that could also mean that Thanasis will continue to be with the team for a while. Besides, if I am in charge on the Bucks to sign a players, I would still do the same as Giannis is still on his prime and he is making the Bucks a championship team.

It does not only happen with the Bucks, as team like Miami Heat had signed player that aren't even playing at all. If you still remember Udonis Haslem, he's been with the Heat as part of the roster but we didn't even see him play, but that was before he announced his retiremenet last year.

Udonis Haslem, NBA's oldest player, retires from Heat after 20 seasons
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January 13, 2024, 09:22:36 AM

This is why NEPOTISM is a bad thing. Cheesy

Thanasis is playing like he's even worse than a G-league player. I just don't know why the Bucks are still choosing to sign him. Maybe because of Giannis? He's like the "Tacko Fall of the Celtics" where whenever he's playing, fans are cheering about him when in fact, he might be one of the worst players in the league right now. Cheesy Anyway, he will continue to be a laughingstock in the league for some time. I guess it's good so that the fans will be more entertained.  Grin Grin

There is no "maybe because of his brother" in the Thanasis question.
It is very well known that he is only signed with the Bucks to give Giannis a family member in the organisation.

When Giannis came to the league he was very home sick and missed his family. He was actually almost ready to leave Milwaukee and return to Greece at that time because he felt so bad.
Once they got the visa for his family to visit him it became better but family is and was always a very big factor for him.
And to keep him happy the Bucks would do anything, even giving up a valuable roster spot.

Obviously Thanasis doesn't have the talent to even come from the bench in the NBA, he wouldn't even start at a good team in Europe.
Even Kostas, who I think is a slightly better player than Thanasis, only averages around 7 points for Panathinaikos in the Greek league and 3 points in the Euroleague. That should tell everything.
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January 13, 2024, 09:00:50 AM
No Embiid, no problem for Sixers. Harris and Maxey play at All-Star level. Batum is on fire behind 3-pt line. Paul Reed is pretty good at both offense and defense. Even rotation players like Pat Bev and Mo Bamba were good. Fox and Sabonis are unrecognizable tonight. It's gonna be an easy win for Sixers after three losses in a row.
TBH, I don't see the Sixers playing better without Embiid.
Yes, they won against the Kings just because the Kings' core players were having a bad night. All 5 starters of the Kings are on minus. Sabonis is -20, Fox is -25, and even Monk who's a good role player is -15 as well. Their next 3 games will be against Houston, Denver, and Orlando, and these teams are above .500 currently. They need Embiid in order to win in this games. My 2 cents only. Smiley

The trending Thanasis flop. LOL. Everyone is starting to believe that he's there on the Bucks just because of his brother, Giannis. But he was drafted by the New York Knicks, right? it seems that he's playing always like a joke and based on his percentage stats per game, the people's thought about him being on the Bucks so Giannis won't move to another team looks like a binding contract.  Grin
I just can't stop laughing whenever I see discussions about this guy but hey he's part of the champion ring on 2021. While their other brother Kostas was also a champ too with the Lakers.
This is why NEPOTISM is a bad thing. Cheesy

Thanasis is playing like he's even worse than a G-league player. I just don't know why the Bucks are still choosing to sign him. Maybe because of Giannis? He's like the "Tacko Fall of the Celtics" where whenever he's playing, fans are cheering about him when in fact, he might be one of the worst players in the league right now. Cheesy Anyway, he will continue to be a laughingstock in the league for some time. I guess it's good so that the fans will be more entertained.  Grin Grin
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January 13, 2024, 08:23:30 AM
CP3 is more likely to be traded by the GSW. It seems that he's not effective at all with the team and they need more of a big man aside from Draymond.
Yes, plus he is already an injury prone player. However, there's a big question here, since his current value is declining, not anymore at sync with the amount he is making, and we know he is earing a huge yearly salary, so is there any team that would be willing to trade their players for an old CP3?

Maybe Cp3 will be traded but the Warriors won't be able to star player in return, probably 2 or 3 role players would make the deal to be a "go".
We will see.

But that's what I think that they're about to do since it seems that they've got bunch of guards and they need to upsize through other positions.

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Speaking of Dray, there is a possibility that he might get traded, right?

Not sure with that, Dray maybe a problem due to his anger issue, a dirty player but his performance are not declining. They need a player like him who could make the team play with high confidence, and we know how effective Draymond is as a leader (less dirty plays).

Actually, I am already seeing a good sign on his return as I already saw him in the couple of games where he is on the bench supporting the team. So most probably, the league or the GSW had already disciplined him, or whatever their agreement is to merit a comeback.
I guess that it won't happen then since his connection with the key players is at best shape and that's what the GSW is going to protect for their own legacies.

Anyway, I wish him whole recovery and best of luck to his games.
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January 13, 2024, 07:52:34 AM
CP3 is more likely to be traded by the GSW. It seems that he's not effective at all with the team and they need more of a big man aside from Draymond.
Yes, plus he is already an injury prone player. However, there's a big question here, since his current value is declining, not anymore at sync with the amount he is making, and we know he is earing a huge yearly salary, so is there any team that would be willing to trade their players for an old CP3?

Maybe Cp3 will be traded but the Warriors won't be able to star player in return, probably 2 or 3 role players would make the deal to be a "go".

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Speaking of Dray, there is a possibility that he might get traded, right?

Not sure with that, Dray maybe a problem due to his anger issue, a dirty player but his performance are not declining. They need a player like him who could make the team play with high confidence, and we know how effective Draymond is as a leader (less dirty plays).

Actually, I am already seeing a good sign on his return as I already saw him in the couple of games where he is on the bench supporting the team. So most probably, the league or the GSW had already disciplined him, or whatever their agreement is to merit a comeback.
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January 13, 2024, 07:26:37 AM
Nearing the trade deadline,

there are many speculation about trading Wiggins and maybe they are just working quietly with the team that they are
targeting to negotiate the trade, another one is CP3, not sure but i also seeing some social post regarding to possibility that
they are placing CP3 to trade negotiation.
CP3 is more likely to be traded by the GSW. It seems that he's not effective at all with the team and they need more of a big man aside from Draymond.

Speaking of Dray, there is a possibility that he might get traded, right?

In terms of Lakers, not really sure if how they will work with the Hawks knowing that Murray's value might be more than what they can
offer for the team, let see if how this trade deadline will change the face of this season.
We'll just be surprised with their announcements soon.
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January 13, 2024, 06:43:09 AM

I think it's bound to happen, there will be trades in the Warriors as we near the trade deadline, as the saying goes, if there's fire, there's smoke. It could be Kuminga or Wiggins for Siakal but we will see what is the package will be.

Same with the Lakers, they are actively pursuing Dejonte Murray as well from the Hawks, and rumours says that package will not include Austin Reaves? Gonna be a shocker if this is true as Austin could be their 3rd offensive option.

Nearing the trade deadline,

there are many speculation about trading Wiggins and maybe they are just working quietly with the team that they are
targeting to negotiate the trade, another one is CP3, not sure but i also seeing some social post regarding to possibility that
they are placing CP3 to trade negotiation.
CP3 and Wiggins on the trading block? It make sense though since both players are not really contributing big time to the team, and yet they are paid with a huge salary. I think the big 3 of the Warriors is enough to lead the team, and what they should focus now is acquiring more players that would help their problem especially on the defensive end.

CP3 + Wiggins, if they'll trade him, that would welcome plenty of players, or one superstar and a bunch of role players.

In terms of Lakers, not really sure if how they will work with the Hawks knowing that Murray's value might be more than what they can
offer for the team, let see if how this trade deadline will change the face of this season.

I don't know, maybe reaves + D'Angelo Russell will work?
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January 13, 2024, 06:39:29 AM

I think it's bound to happen, there will be trades in the Warriors as we near the trade deadline, as the saying goes, if there's fire, there's smoke. It could be Kuminga or Wiggins for Siakal but we will see what is the package will be.

Same with the Lakers, they are actively pursuing Dejonte Murray as well from the Hawks, and rumours says that package will not include Austin Reaves? Gonna be a shocker if this is true as Austin could be their 3rd offensive option.

Nearing the trade deadline,

there are many speculation about trading Wiggins and maybe they are just working quietly with the team that they are
targeting to negotiate the trade, another one is CP3, not sure but i also seeing some social post regarding to possibility that
they are placing CP3 to trade negotiation.

In terms of Lakers, not really sure if how they will work with the Hawks knowing that Murray's value might be more than what they can
offer for the team, let see if how this trade deadline will change the face of this season.
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January 13, 2024, 06:36:45 AM

I think it's bound to happen, there will be trades in the Warriors as we near the trade deadline, as the saying goes, if there's fire, there's smoke. It could be Kuminga or Wiggins for Siakal but we will see what is the package will be.
Kuminga doesn't have the value as Wiggins in terms of salary, so most likely it will only be Wiggins that will be traded. Besides, Kuminga has been playing good basketball, he's fit with the system of the Warriors, so they can work him out to be one of their superstars in the future especially when Curry gets old or retire. I think Wiggins + other guy, but not Kuminga.

Same with the Lakers, they are actively pursuing Dejonte Murray as well from the Hawks, and rumours says that package will not include Austin Reaves? Gonna be a shocker if this is true as Austin could be their 3rd offensive option.
Reaves is a decent player, but for the Lakers to win, they could let go of him to acqurie a real guard who can shoot and more atheletic. I think trade between the Lakers and Hawks will happen without a problem.
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January 13, 2024, 06:16:40 AM


Since Michael Jordan's departure, the Chicago Bulls have ceased to be a formidable force and have failed to secure any further championships. Their objective each year is merely to qualify for the playoffs, not to achieve victory. Ever since Michael Jordan's retirement, the Chicago Bulls have struggled to assemble a roster and team of the same caliber, hindering their ability to compete for the NBA championship.

Well what do you expect?  Grin

It's the bulls, a dynasty, the best team in the history ( in many people's opinion ) .
There will never been something like this team again. Today's strong teams are mostly superteams getting built.
The 90s bulls had a great core and just added for example Rodman and other role players.

I liked the Derrick Rose Bulls as well. They could achieved a lit if not for the bad injuries of D Rose pretty much breaking up the whole thing.  Cry
The other problem was Lebron was ruling the east for a long time, it was hard to get past him and his super teams ( Miami and Cleveland in the 2nd stint ) and the super team Celtics with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.

There's a lot of what if in the DRose era as a Chicago Bulls player, but I don't think that he can carry that team on his back. They have to contained the Lebron era in the Cavs and them and Bulls are rivals. And obviously that injury took everything, his prime years and DRose was never the same again. And then super teams in the East was also established that time.

The thing though that even if the Warriors broke the record of the Bulls, they didn't win the ring that season as Lebon and Kyrie make the biggest comeback in the NBA finals and upset the Warriors. While that season, not just the record, but the Bulls and Jordan almost swept all the awards that season. So no one can really be compare to the Bulls of the 90's as how they dominated that era.
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January 13, 2024, 05:45:51 AM
And so the rumors is still swirling on Andrew Wiggins being traded right now, it was reported that Toronto might be his new home, but we will see. Just sad that Wiggins is still in his prime and yet this season, for unknown reasons, he looks like he is already wash up and Kuminga taking over his position.

Also the same with Looney, and again, reports indicate that he might be also in the trading block and replace him with a new and fresh center for the Warriors. We will Draymond as well and how he will be when he comes back.

I read the opposite, that they were more open to trading Kuminga and keeping Wiggins now. I guess Kuminga and Draymond are having some issues… The Warriors and Lakers are both getting pretty aggressive in talks along with the Raptors and Bulls. Even Miami to a lesser degree. I wouldn’t be surprised to see those teams involved in some big moves over the next 3 weeks.

Speaking of the Warriors, great win against a red hot Chicago Bulls, this time they didn't choke in the 4th quarter. Everyone shows in this game, Wiggins and Kuminga in the 1st quarter. Klay in 3rd and then Steph in the 4th.

But not sure though if this is enough to keep the trade rumors check for Wiggins or anyone from the Warriors as I do read as well that Pascal Siakam name pop up with the Wiggins trade potential. So we will see, if Wiggins continue his outstanding game and Warriors getting back for at least in the play-in, they might keep this roster intact.

I think it's bound to happen, there will be trades in the Warriors as we near the trade deadline, as the saying goes, if there's fire, there's smoke. It could be Kuminga or Wiggins for Siakal but we will see what is the package will be.

Same with the Lakers, they are actively pursuing Dejonte Murray as well from the Hawks, and rumours says that package will not include Austin Reaves? Gonna be a shocker if this is true as Austin could be their 3rd offensive option.
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January 13, 2024, 04:33:38 AM
The trending Thanasis flop. LOL. Everyone is starting to believe that he's there on the Bucks just because of his brother, Giannis. But he was drafted by the New York Knicks, right? it seems that he's playing always like a joke and based on his percentage stats per game, the people's thought about him being on the Bucks so Giannis won't move to another team looks like a binding contract.  Grin
I just can't stop laughing whenever I see discussions about this guy but hey he's part of the champion ring on 2021. While their other brother Kostas was also a champ too with the Lakers.
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January 13, 2024, 04:02:53 AM
Haliburton is a very very important player for the Pacers, in fact he could be probably the most important player they have, and him missing two weeks is still a serious issue for them. I am not saying that they will suddenly suck, but I am sure that they will play below their win rate for this period, he is way too good to not have an impact when he is missing.

So far the seeds are getting their shape, we still have plenty to change and we still have a little bit of time for trades and I am sure that it will get more serious the closer we get to the deadline. I think there are plenty of teams trying to figure out a way to make some moves, and I think they will have some issues because nobody wants to get nothing, many teams have a chance.
And that is why they are super underdog on every game that he will miss. Haliburton is a piece that is difficult to fill in by other players. His speed and threat in the three-point line are like Steph's in his younger days, he is growing to be one of the biggest threats on outside shots.
But even though they are underdogs tonight against the Atlanta Hawks, I still put my trust in their bench and healthy roleplayers which is why I am winning this bet today. Cheesy


Who is watching the Chicago Bulls versus the Golden State Warriors?
Ring of Honor Ceremony.
Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan were absent but MJ did send a message to the Bulls fans.

It's nice to see the Bulls team of 95-96 once again who recorded 72-10 which is one of the best records until the Golden State Warriors broke it. Still, there are a lot of memories of just seeing those guys again. They are old but the memories will be kept forever.

Funny thing. My wife (GSW fan) was surprised Steve Kerr was sitting there. I said, "Oh yeah, he was there, he was once a Bull!"

Since Michael Jordan's departure, the Chicago Bulls have ceased to be a formidable force and have failed to secure any further championships. Their objective each year is merely to qualify for the playoffs, not to achieve victory. Ever since Michael Jordan's retirement, the Chicago Bulls have struggled to assemble a roster and team of the same caliber, hindering their ability to compete for the NBA championship.

The legend of those years was Jordan, and since he was also in Chicago, the Bulls were like a storm in those years. Not only Jordan, Chicago had a good squad.
The situation is no different today. The moment Lebron and Anthony Davis stopped in Los Angeles, the team stopped. This is what happened in the last loss (Phoenix match)
For now, there is only LeBron who is like Jordan and Kobe. He is also getting older and whoever has the new top basketball player will have a say in that championship.
Chicago has now become an ordinary team in the NBA. Because they don't have top-level basketball players.
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January 13, 2024, 02:43:12 AM
And so the rumors is still swirling on Andrew Wiggins being traded right now, it was reported that Toronto might be his new home, but we will see. Just sad that Wiggins is still in his prime and yet this season, for unknown reasons, he looks like he is already wash up and Kuminga taking over his position.

Also the same with Looney, and again, reports indicate that he might be also in the trading block and replace him with a new and fresh center for the Warriors. We will Draymond as well and how he will be when he comes back.

I read the opposite, that they were more open to trading Kuminga and keeping Wiggins now. I guess Kuminga and Draymond are having some issues… The Warriors and Lakers are both getting pretty aggressive in talks along with the Raptors and Bulls. Even Miami to a lesser degree. I wouldn’t be surprised to see those teams involved in some big moves over the next 3 weeks.

Speaking of the Warriors, great win against a red hot Chicago Bulls, this time they didn't choke in the 4th quarter. Everyone shows in this game, Wiggins and Kuminga in the 1st quarter. Klay in 3rd and then Steph in the 4th.

But not sure though if this is enough to keep the trade rumors check for Wiggins or anyone from the Warriors as I do read as well that Pascal Siakam name pop up with the Wiggins trade potential. So we will see, if Wiggins continue his outstanding game and Warriors getting back for at least in the play-in, they might keep this roster intact.
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January 13, 2024, 02:33:34 AM


Since Michael Jordan's departure, the Chicago Bulls have ceased to be a formidable force and have failed to secure any further championships. Their objective each year is merely to qualify for the playoffs, not to achieve victory. Ever since Michael Jordan's retirement, the Chicago Bulls have struggled to assemble a roster and team of the same caliber, hindering their ability to compete for the NBA championship.

Well what do you expect?  Grin

It's the bulls, a dynasty, the best team in the history ( in many people's opinion ) .
There will never been something like this team again. Today's strong teams are mostly superteams getting built.
The 90s bulls had a great core and just added for example Rodman and other role players.

I liked the Derrick Rose Bulls as well. They could achieved a lit if not for the bad injuries of D Rose pretty much breaking up the whole thing.  Cry
The other problem was Lebron was ruling the east for a long time, it was hard to get past him and his super teams ( Miami and Cleveland in the 2nd stint ) and the super team Celtics with Garnett, Pierce and Allen.
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January 13, 2024, 02:25:58 AM
Haliburton is a very very important player for the Pacers, in fact he could be probably the most important player they have, and him missing two weeks is still a serious issue for them. I am not saying that they will suddenly suck, but I am sure that they will play below their win rate for this period, he is way too good to not have an impact when he is missing.

So far the seeds are getting their shape, we still have plenty to change and we still have a little bit of time for trades and I am sure that it will get more serious the closer we get to the deadline. I think there are plenty of teams trying to figure out a way to make some moves, and I think they will have some issues because nobody wants to get nothing, many teams have a chance.
And that is why they are super underdog on every game that he will miss. Haliburton is a piece that is difficult to fill in by other players. His speed and threat in the three-point line are like Steph's in his younger days, he is growing to be one of the biggest threats on outside shots.
But even though they are underdogs tonight against the Atlanta Hawks, I still put my trust in their bench and healthy roleplayers which is why I am winning this bet today. Cheesy


Who is watching the Chicago Bulls versus the Golden State Warriors?
Ring of Honor Ceremony.
Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan were absent but MJ did send a message to the Bulls fans.

It's nice to see the Bulls team of 95-96 once again who recorded 72-10 which is one of the best records until the Golden State Warriors broke it. Still, there are a lot of memories of just seeing those guys again. They are old but the memories will be kept forever.

Funny thing. My wife (GSW fan) was surprised Steve Kerr was sitting there. I said, "Oh yeah, he was there, he was once a Bull!"

Since Michael Jordan's departure, the Chicago Bulls have ceased to be a formidable force and have failed to secure any further championships. Their objective each year is merely to qualify for the playoffs, not to achieve victory. Ever since Michael Jordan's retirement, the Chicago Bulls have struggled to assemble a roster and team of the same caliber, hindering their ability to compete for the NBA championship.
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January 13, 2024, 02:16:56 AM
No Embiid, no problem for Sixers. Harris and Maxey play at All-Star level. Batum is on fire behind 3-pt line. Paul Reed is pretty good at both offense and defense. Even rotation players like Pat Bev and Mo Bamba were good. Fox and Sabonis are unrecognizable tonight. It's gonna be an easy win for Sixers after three losses in a row.

20 points lead with 4:09 left to play, it’s going to be a well deserved win for the 76ers, they stay locked from the very first quarter and never really let Sacramento Kings to get back into the game, limiting the Kings Dynamic Duo in Fox and Sabonis to a very low scoring game made it all possible for them, Sabonis had was just 2 or was it 3 field goal attempts in the first half. I don’t think I’ve seen him had less all season long.
Yeah, I think Maxey is emerging as their second option now behind Joel. But since Embiid is not present he will be the leader of and then Tobias Harris as the 2nd option for now. This is how they did against the Hawks and they almost win that game if not for some miscues in the last seconds.

But this time, they can't be denied as the Kings can't do anything about it. Bad shooting night for the Kings and they are a high scoring team. But with this phase by the Sixers, they can't do anything about it so good win by the Sixers to snap from their losing streak.
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January 12, 2024, 10:59:07 PM
No Embiid, no problem for Sixers. Harris and Maxey play at All-Star level. Batum is on fire behind 3-pt line. Paul Reed is pretty good at both offense and defense. Even rotation players like Pat Bev and Mo Bamba were good. Fox and Sabonis are unrecognizable tonight. It's gonna be an easy win for Sixers after three losses in a row.

20 points lead with 4:09 left to play, it’s going to be a well deserved win for the 76ers, they stay locked from the very first quarter and never really let Sacramento Kings to get back into the game, limiting the Kings Dynamic Duo in Fox and Sabonis to a very low scoring game made it all possible for them, Sabonis had was just 2 or was it 3 field goal attempts in the first half. I don’t think I’ve seen him had less all season long.
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