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No it's not about Kyrie Irving. I mean how come for just one player they all wrecked up?

People nowadays think that only one player in contributing to the victory of a team and also one player needs to be blamed when they are losing. You should stop thinking this way, they are professionals and they know with themselves on where they are lack of.

This is true. But it does not seem the case to die hard fans for those teams when they do lose.

Remember the impact that Michael Jordan had while he was playing when ever the Bulls lost?
It would be the same effect for any superstar player on a team because they put so much investment and most of the teams salary is there in everyone's faces to obtain him and expected to produce when they are down on the scoreboard.

This is what they paid him to do.
So the argument can go both ways if you are behind funding the team(be it in buying the ticket to the game or paying for that player) when they are losing.

The investment is there but thinking that a win is only cause by one player. They are more than 5 members including the bench players, fans should think outside not only about a single player that's bringing up a team on his shoulder. Well that's the impact of superstar and let's just leave that thing to their fans. If it is not because of the fans,viewers, ticket buyers they are not earning.

Who's watching Spurs vs Cavs now? Close game so far at Q2.

Just saw the Cavs lose again and this time by a 12 point difference, the only highlight about the game was Lebron James being the youngest player ever to get into 30K points mark.

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Quote from: Lionidas on January 22, 2018, 08:19:10 PM

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Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2018, 12:51:25 PM

No it's not about Kyrie Irving. I mean how come for just one player they all wrecked up?

People nowadays think that only one player in contributing to the victory of a team and also one player needs to be blamed when they are losing. You should stop thinking this way, they are professionals and they know with themselves on where they are lack of.

This is true. But it does not seem the case to die hard fans for those teams when they do lose.

Remember the impact that Michael Jordan had while he was playing when ever the Bulls lost?
It would be the same effect for any superstar player on a team because they put so much investment and most of the teams salary is there in everyone's faces to obtain him and expected to produce when they are down on the scoreboard.

This is what they paid him to do.
So the argument can go both ways if you are behind funding the team(be it in buying the ticket to the game or paying for that player) when they are losing.

The investment is there but thinking that a win is only cause by one player. They are more than 5 members including the bench players, fans should think outside not only about a single player that's bringing up a team on his shoulder. Well that's the impact of superstar and let's just leave that thing to their fans. If it is not because of the fans,viewers, ticket buyers they are not earning.

Who's watching Spurs vs Cavs now? Close game so far at Q2.

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Where is the future of Cavs when they lose that much to OKC without Kevin durant?

Still can't move on that OKC doesn't have Kevin Durant anymore? He transferred to a good team so why keep on comparing things from the past. If you'll watch the game it's more of intense scoring rather than defense.

Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 21, 2018, 06:26:04 PM

Not a fan of Cavs but if they really want to enter the NBA finals again, someone should also step up or the whole team should contribute consistently. If it was just James, nah sorry plus he's getting frustrated sometimes. They can really feel now the lost of Irving.

They are contributing consistently but look on what's happening in the end there is something that they need to change. I saw a part on this game that James move lousily.

it's disappointing that the thunder didn't make it 150 points .Lol .Lebron's didn't make any significant effort as most of the time he was awful. It's more likey that in the next season Cavs will have yo total rebuild. Smith looks like he is done. Definitely the worst game that Cavs played this season despite they hot a lot bad games this season don't know exactly if LeBron is acting or he is really that tired because he looks still unhappy. And for Love he is definitely is overshadowed offensively by Isaiah presence and greed .I think Cavs should cut their losses and trade Isaiah at the summer for better option.

You noticed that too? He played like it's not really going to be a big game for them. Isaiah was the highlight for this game but still they must do significant decision and start to get up from these losses. If they will not do it they might not catch up before the semi's. Aren't they too confident or they are really just having hard time to beat each of them?

They do not need the next season, plenty of time this season and it's possible they will be consistent.
Even if they will not end up the top seed in the east, for sure they are still the winner in the east and that is good for us bettors as we will
surely get a good odds if we back cavaliers.

But too much confidence can also give them disappointment, thinking that there's still enough time to catch will not push them to give their best. As I've said that Eastern conference will be tough for them, they are ranked #3 and the two teams above them isn't that easy to beat, Raptors and Celtics are doing well for this season.

Ive been noticing this in some plays which they are too confident enough which they do let other teams scores believing that they can able to catch up the spread and as it pile up it would really be very hard to decrease the gap soon which they will able to push their plays into last 2 quarters on catching them up.This kind of behavior should really be changed because i do believe this is one of the things that do really affects them and there are really times that James play lousily as stated above.

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Quote from: joebrook on January 23, 2018, 11:57:38 AM

Against the San Antonio Spurs, Lebron James has the opportunity to hit the 30,000 career regular season points because he is currently seven points shy of making that mark, he would have been able to do it in their last game against the OKC Thunder but they were no match for them at all,

Not a big deal after all if James didn't make it to their last game since the important thing is, it's 100% that he will now sit on 30,000 pojnt mark as 7th player of NBA (not include ABA) to reached that milestone.

Quote from: btc_angela on January 23, 2018, 08:21:59 AM

They are really affected when Irving moves out, physical and psychological. That's why you will feel that they don't have the passion anymore, no defense whatsoever, They need to overcome this barrier. James have been doing it alone. Someone really needs to step up. I think other team members, hasn't been adjusted with IT. Otherwise, they really need to trade and make some changes around.

They already overcome the absence of Kyrie Irving. Look at their past winning games. The problem today is new and what other member here said, they need to figured out what's that. It's January now and we are near February, still Kyrie Irving issue is the reason?

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Against the San Antonio Spurs, Lebron James has the opportunity to hit the 30,000 career regular season points because he is currently seven points shy of making that mark, he would have been able to do it in their last game against the OKC Thunder but they were no match for them at all,

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Quote from: yohanzo on January 21, 2018, 08:30:12 AM

Where is the future of Cavs when they lose that much to OKC without Kevin durant?

Still can't move on that OKC doesn't have Kevin Durant anymore? He transferred to a good team so why keep on comparing things from the past. If you'll watch the game it's more of intense scoring rather than defense.

Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 21, 2018, 06:26:04 PM

Not a fan of Cavs but if they really want to enter the NBA finals again, someone should also step up or the whole team should contribute consistently. If it was just James, nah sorry plus he's getting frustrated sometimes. They can really feel now the lost of Irving.

They are contributing consistently but look on what's happening in the end there is something that they need to change. I saw a part on this game that James move lousily.

it's disappointing that the thunder didn't make it 150 points .Lol .Lebron's didn't make any significant effort as most of the time he was awful. It's more likey that in the next season Cavs will have yo total rebuild. Smith looks like he is done. Definitely the worst game that Cavs played this season despite they hot a lot bad games this season don't know exactly if LeBron is acting or he is really that tired because he looks still unhappy. And for Love he is definitely is overshadowed offensively by Isaiah presence and greed .I think Cavs should cut their losses and trade Isaiah at the summer for better option.

You noticed that too? He played like it's not really going to be a big game for them. Isaiah was the highlight for this game but still they must do significant decision and start to get up from these losses. If they will not do it they might not catch up before the semi's. Aren't they too confident or they are really just having hard time to beat each of them?

They do not need the next season, plenty of time this season and it's possible they will be consistent.
Even if they will not end up the top seed in the east, for sure they are still the winner in the east and that is good for us bettors as we will
surely get a good odds if we back cavaliers.

But too much confidence can also give them disappointment, thinking that there's still enough time to catch will not push them to give their best. As I've said that Eastern conference will be tough for them, they are ranked #3 and the two teams above them isn't that easy to beat, Raptors and Celtics are doing well for this season.

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Did the two most criticized and hated starters of the Minnesota Timberwolves prove themselves today against the Los Angeles Clippers? Andrew Wiggins and Jeff Teague showed that they are still on par with the other players of the Timberwolves. Wiggins had showed his value as many fans hated him for playing like he is not on max contract, now that Jimmy Butler is resting with an injury he had step up for the team in the last two games which in the recent game he scored 40 points. Jeff Teague also had a memorable night scoring 30 points.

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Quote from: harizen on January 23, 2018, 02:34:46 AM

Look at those last winning streaks (9) of Cavaliers, they are all monster and Irving wasn't there on the floor. It's just that, there are some "missing link" that happened on the way and Cavaliers must needed to figured out what is it.

The missing link is they have to let go some of their players that has a sleeping stats for long time. Trade before the deadline.

I don't blame their playing time but it's clear that some of them are not contributing when they have time to showcase their performance on the game.

They are really affected when Irving moves out, physical and psychological. That's why you will feel that they don't have the passion anymore, no defense whatsoever, They need to overcome this barrier. James have been doing it alone. Someone really needs to step up. I think other team members, hasn't been adjusted with IT. Otherwise, they really need to trade and make some changes around.

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Wizards trash expected alot more from them this season and now they lose to Dallas LOL

Dallas Mavericks is really good eventhough they have a bad record. Even they are lose, they give those dominating teams a difficult way to win.

It's good to put a bet sometimes on them as underdog.

I remembered that they almost destroyed Golden State Warriors and Boston Celtics. Dallas Mavericks seems to be the best team in the league that has worst record but will not give an easy win for any teams even how powerful they are.

And they surprised Wizards by 23 points Shocked

wow.

Im also surprised that Mavericks able to pinned down the Wizards in an unexpected large margin. They able to outscored before the second half and just maintained the lead till the end. Things got heated too that boost Dallas Mavericks performance. JJ Barea and John Wall have exchanged words to each other on which the second one start the talks. I just did realized that John Wall is a fan of trashtalking too. I look at this guy as cool and humble. JJ Barea is one of the humble players in the league and I don't see this guy involved in a trashtalk.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22185192/dallas-mavericks-jj-barea-washington-wizards-john-wall-exchange-barbs-court-confrontation

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Wizards trash expected alot more from them this season and now they lose to Dallas LOL

Dallas Mavericks is really good eventhough they have a bad record. Even they are lose, they give those dominating teams a difficult way to win.

It's good to put a bet sometimes on them as underdog.

I remembered that they almost destroyed Golden State Warriors and Boston Celtics. Dallas Mavericks seems to be the best team in the league that has worst record but will not give an easy win for any teams even how powerful they are.

And they surprised Wizards by 23 points Shocked

wow.

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Quote from: Zlatna Kopa4ka on January 23, 2018, 05:51:50 AM

Wizards trash expected alot more from them this season and now they lose to Dallas LOL

Dallas Mavericks is really good eventhough they have a bad record. Even they are lose, they give those dominating teams a difficult way to win.

It's good to put a bet sometimes on them as underdog.

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Wizards trash expected alot more from them this season and now they lose to Dallas LOL

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Quote from: harizen on January 23, 2018, 02:34:46 AM

Look at those last winning streaks (9) of Cavaliers, they are all monster and Irving wasn't there on the floor. It's just that, there are some "missing link" that happened on the way and Cavaliers must needed to figured out what is it.

The missing link is they have to let go some of their players that has a sleeping stats for long time. Trade before the deadline.

I don't blame their playing time but it's clear that some of them are not contributing when they have time to showcase their performance on the game.

Or maybe change their system, if the current system is not working then they should switch to a defensive system like the Pistons and the heat and employing. The problem with the cavaliers is they easily give their opponent a chance to score more, they have the skills and I don't think they cannot do a good defense.

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Quote from: harizen on January 23, 2018, 02:34:46 AM

Look at those last winning streaks (9) of Cavaliers, they are all monster and Irving wasn't there on the floor. It's just that, there are some "missing link" that happened on the way and Cavaliers must needed to figured out what is it.

The missing link is they have to let go some of their players that has a sleeping stats for long time. Trade before the deadline.

I don't blame their playing time but it's clear that some of them are not contributing when they have time to showcase their performance on the game.

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Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2018, 12:51:25 PM

No it's not about Kyrie Irving. I mean how come for just one player they all wrecked up?

People nowadays think that only one player in contributing to the victory of a team and also one player needs to be blamed when they are losing. You should stop thinking this way, they are professionals and they know with themselves on where they are lack of.

This is true. But it does not seem the case to die hard fans to those teams when they do lose.

Remember the impact that Michael Jordan had while he was playing when ever the Bulls lost?
It would be the same effect for any superstar player on a team because they put so much investment and most of the teams salary is there in everyone's faces to obtain him and expected to produce when they are down on the scoreboard.

This is what they paid him to do.
So the argument can go both ways if you are behind funding the team(be it in buying the ticket to the game or paying for that player) when they are losing.

To be honest, It is how people think nowadays. Basketball is built not for a single person, this is composed of a group of people which is called team. Let us not forget that NO MAN IS ISLAND. It is indeed that Kyrie is a key player for the Cavs but let us not forget that He's with LBJ, LOVE, SMITH, and the rest of the team when they won the championship. Die-hard fans are still bitter when Kyrie left and Blame him for what is happening to Cavs right now. Well, we can't blame these people especially when a Franchise player like Kyrie left for personal reasons.

What I see that contributes to this dilemma of Cavs is lack of chemistry. Ty Lue must put his team together if they really want to win this season. Cavs must work as a team and must not solely rely on Lebron alone.

I definitely agree with you mate, they have the skills already, look at who compose the team, they have a lot of all star players so it's impossible
they won't beat any opponent, the problem is the chemistry but they'll figure it out. Let's just wait and see!

So I guess people should not take the 'Kyrie Irving reasons' now why Cavaliers are having a bad day. When Jordan left Bulls, Bulls doesn't have any key players left and they all aging. If we compare to Irving scene, when he left Cavaliers still there is bunch of superstars (although post prime) but still can get to their own feet without Irving. So in here, we can that the problem is about the players itself.

Look at those last winning streaks (9) of Cavaliers, they are all monster and Irving wasn't there on the floor. It's just that, there are some "missing link" that happened on the way and Cavaliers must needed to figured out what is it.

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A great performance by the bougie vs bulls. But damn the bulls and lavigne are starting to get their rythm. If lauri and zach would get their pace. they would be a team to be feared either this season or next season.

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Quote from: Ipwich on January 23, 2018, 12:21:52 AM

Today, it's the Clippers who are the favorites that is why I bet on them, hope they'll win.

They are the favorites but Twolves is showing better performance to this match. Give it up mate, less than 1 minute is remaining and the score is 121 Twolves while 116 for Los Angeles Clippers. This is done and congratulations to the folks out there who won with their bets with Minnesota Timberwolves.

Edit: Woah 14 secs left and the lead is only 3 let's see if Clippers will win.
Edit2: 7 secs left and the Twolves added more free throw points. This is done, Minnesota Timberwolves won (126-118).

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Quote from: Ipwich on January 23, 2018, 12:21:52 AM

Great game between the Clippers and the Twolves today, a possible match up in the playoffs, probably round one.
I believe the Clippers had already found a good combination of their players to win games, lots of injured players but they are doing well so far.
Today, it's the Clippers who are the favorites that is why I bet on them, hope they'll win.

Timberwolves is on the lead but the game still has 2 minutes left.. Can't wait on how they will finish the game.

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Great game between the Clippers and the Twolves today, a possible match up in the playoffs, probably round one.
I believe the Clippers had already found a good combination of their players to win games, lots of injured players but they are doing well so far.
Today, it's the Clippers who are the favorites that is why I bet on them, hope they'll win.

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Quote from: Lionidas on January 22, 2018, 08:19:10 PM

Quote from: tabas on January 22, 2018, 06:58:17 PM

Quote from: harizen on January 22, 2018, 12:51:25 PM

No it's not about Kyrie Irving. I mean how come for just one player they all wrecked up?

People nowadays think that only one player in contributing to the victory of a team and also one player needs to be blamed when they are losing. You should stop thinking this way, they are professionals and they know with themselves on where they are lack of.

This is true. But it does not seem the case to die hard fans to those teams when they do lose.

Remember the impact that Michael Jordan had while he was playing when ever the Bulls lost?
It would be the same effect for any superstar player on a team because they put so much investment and most of the teams salary is there in everyone's faces to obtain him and expected to produce when they are down on the scoreboard.

This is what they paid him to do.
So the argument can go both ways if you are behind funding the team(be it in buying the ticket to the game or paying for that player) when they are losing.

Well said mate, in terms of being a superstar investment was been place in your shoulder, teams and investors pay you the salary for you to produce and bring more fans to support the team, that's the reason why whenever the teams loses the game, the first thing to eye with is how the superstar take the challenge I use to remember when the Bulls played without Pippen and when they also played while Jordan have a virus even he is not feeling well he still managed to show his leadership and entertained the fans.

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