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February 27, 2024, 09:07:38 AM

Yep, there is a lot of competition in the Western Conference standings, but I think the Lakers and Warriors will be fine if they finish the season where they are now in the standings. By the way, the results of last year's playoffs are a clear example that a team from the play-in tournament has a good chance to do well in the playoffs. I mean the Lakers, who made it to the Western Conference Finals.

If only they could have some players to stop Jokic and Murray, they would have not struggled and were beaten easily by the Nuggets. Let's see how the new rosters will help them against the Denver Nuggets this year since if they gonna reach the playoffs this time, they will face the Nuggets at some point unless the Nuggets go home early because other teams in the Western Conference are well prepared as well to beat them in the playoffs.
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February 27, 2024, 08:20:31 AM


Lakers are a very dangerous team, especially when they are healthy. Their current struggles do not reflect their potential in the playoffs. With LeBron and AD on the team, I am confident that they'll perform well in the postseason.

The Warriors are getting stronger, but they were exposed by the Nuggets. The size difference remains a challenge for them, as evident in the last playoffs. While Curry and Thompson lead the team, Thompson's inconsistency makes it difficult to expect them to win another championship.

I don't really see the Lakers as dangerous.
There are plenty to teams ( Dallas, Minnesota, Denver, Clippers ) where the Lakers have no chance in a 7 game series, especially without home court advantage.
I mean when the best player is in retirement age, that says it all.
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February 27, 2024, 08:08:58 AM
Rough night for Haliburton on the Pacers. He shot 2/11 from the field on his way to a 9 point night in the loss against the Raptors. Social media is cooking him for some reason like this game means he fell off. It’s something to keep an eye on, but he’s a 20 year old kid so I think he’ll right the ship in no time.
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February 27, 2024, 07:43:11 AM
Lakers and Warriors are having trouble going higher because everyone at the western conference at the top ten are at positive results right now. Worst ones are 6-4 in the last 10 games, with bunch of 7-3 and even 8-2 is there. Usually you do not get ALL of them doing this well, some do well and some do badly but this time its not like that at all. In the end, we are seeing it grow and that's the most important part, we should be thanking the basketball gods that its making it so wonderful. I personally believe that we are not really seeing any big changes. Unfortunately, we will see some teams not do this well until the end of the season. Play-in could be very fun this way though.

Yep, there is a lot of competition in the Western Conference standings, but I think the Lakers and Warriors will be fine if they finish the season where they are now in the standings. By the way, the results of last year's playoffs are a clear example that a team from the play-in tournament has a good chance to do well in the playoffs. I mean the Lakers, who made it to the Western Conference Finals.

Lakers are a very dangerous team, especially when they are healthy. Their current struggles do not reflect their potential in the playoffs. With LeBron and AD on the team, I am confident that they'll perform well in the postseason.

The Warriors are getting stronger, but they were exposed by the Nuggets. The size difference remains a challenge for them, as evident in the last playoffs. While Curry and Thompson lead the team, Thompson's inconsistency makes it difficult to expect them to win another championship.
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February 27, 2024, 07:23:47 AM
Lakers and Warriors are having trouble going higher because everyone at the western conference at the top ten are at positive results right now. Worst ones are 6-4 in the last 10 games, with bunch of 7-3 and even 8-2 is there. Usually you do not get ALL of them doing this well, some do well and some do badly but this time its not like that at all. In the end, we are seeing it grow and that's the most important part, we should be thanking the basketball gods that its making it so wonderful. I personally believe that we are not really seeing any big changes. Unfortunately, we will see some teams not do this well until the end of the season. Play-in could be very fun this way though.

Yep, there is a lot of competition in the Western Conference standings, but I think the Lakers and Warriors will be fine if they finish the season where they are now in the standings. By the way, the results of last year's playoffs are a clear example that a team from the play-in tournament has a good chance to do well in the playoffs. I mean the Lakers, who made it to the Western Conference Finals.
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February 27, 2024, 07:14:22 AM
I just saw some feed that the Warriors though have some former NBA dad . There is the obvious, but I was surprised to see that Trayce Jackson-Davis dad, Dale Davis is also a NBA player. Remember him back in the days, 90's era with the Pacers. Very tough game and defender in the low post. He had defended against Shaq as well if I remember correctly and Shaq will just used his height and weight advantage and will hit Dale in the face with that elbow.

Also Andrew Wiggins father, Mitchell Wiggins is also a former player, but he was probably before my time so I'm not familiar with him. Even their GM former player Mike Dunleavy Jr. So there's a lot of second generation player in the NBA. But no one will beat the record if Bronny will play together with his father Lebron in the next couple of years.
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February 27, 2024, 07:07:17 AM
I guess it's kind of expected that the Sixers will have a hard time getting those wins because Embiid is out for at least 2 months because of that injury. It's almost the same as the Nets when they had KD and Kyrie a few years ago. At one point, they were at the top, and when both of them got injured, they just got loss after loss until they went down to the bottom 4.

I'm not saying that the Sixers will experience the same, but they relied too much on Embiid in terms of offense that they forgot to shoot already. Too much exaggeration in that sentence, but what I mean is that no one can step on the team offensively. Not even Tobias Harris which is their supposed 2nd option on offense.

The Sixers are 3-7 in their last 10 games, and their next 5 games are kind of easy at least. They will be up against the Nets, Magic, Pistons, Spurs, Grizzlies. I just hope that they can rack up some wins now that Embiid is still out.
The difference that Embiid makes on the team is clear, but I confess that some players for example, Maxey, Oubre Jr., Hield and others has been performing well , but it is not necessary to reduce the difference that the Sixers are having in the last 10 games (3-7).
I confess that I was surprised by the performance of the Philadelphia 76ers playing against the Cavaliers, there were two games and in those games the Sixers beat the Cavs.
I'll be curious to see the Sixers vs Celtics game at TD Garden today.


Someone has to step up in the absence of Joel, we have seen Maxey do that in the early part. But I guess he is not that consistent as well, not enough experience to lead a team. But it's good that he has been given the chance as he will definitely the new face of the franchise in the future.

They are going to face the lead leading Boston Celtics, it's hard to see the Celtics losing this one, just saying. They are almost 6:1 underdog and the initial handicap line is -10.5. So that's how bookies see the Sixers and it means it's going to be very difficult for them to win.
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February 27, 2024, 06:49:29 AM
Nonetheless, Philly is indeed struggling to maintain its ranking since the injury of Joel Embiid. Embiid if expected to return later or in the playoffs provided the team can make it.
They are still at number 5 in the standings now, but their numbers are going down, 3-7 in their last 10 games, that's trouble. Embiid can't return in the playoffs as that is not safe for the team. If he wants to make this team competitive in the playoffs, he should return before the playoffs, as the longer he is out, the struggles will continue. I won't be surprised if they drop to 10th and will just play for the play-in tournament to have a chance to qualify.

For this Philly team, time is very important, and that is to get Embiid back in action, provided he's 100% already.

We'll see if the team can make adjustments and be able to hold a spot inside top 8 at the end of the season. There's still 25 games in the regular season and that is a lot. Team president Daryl Morey is still hopeful for Embiid's availability in the playoffs. But it is indeed also a risky move if they will let Embiid play even if not fully healed. Maybe it depends on the team they are playing in the playoffs, Boston and Miami are dangerous but the other less experienced team could be winnable. Embiid will be evaluated in about a month so there will be a better assessment of his return by that time.
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February 27, 2024, 06:09:00 AM
The Golden State Warriors seem to still have to find their offensive guy. Steph Curry is changing his way of playing by becoming the screener for his teammates but the problem is the one who should be rewarded for those plays cannot shoot the ball at a high percentage.
I actually like the new approach. The veterans helping the rookies develop and have confidence in themselves can only improve the club in the long-term. They will be more of a threat during the play-in or the playoffs if they can find the right mix before the regular season ends.
I like it too and there are times it is successful but maybe they are abusing those kinds of plays and they need to go back to where Curry is the center of the play because those are also successful one. I don't know, maybe they are just having a hard time balancing it all and maybe the play is new that's why it's not much appreciated yet. Curry as the screener is a damn good play because he can absorb 2 players after that and someone will always be free but then, they need to be accurate with their shots. Because it will all be a waste if they cannot even shoot the ball.

Yes, I think him and Kerr have developed this approach in the last 10 games or so. I've noticed that Curry setting picks, even if he didn't have that frame, he is sacrificing his body so that his team mates will be open. But it's just a matter on who is going to shot for them.

So they will have to developed another program for their shooting guards to come up with a high percentage. Klay has been struggling, and I also seen Draymond pulling that 3 from time to time. And the play might change against once CP3 will be back in the rotation. The Warriors can still make it in the playoff this season though.
Yeah, that's what I am saying. It's a matter of who will be good enough to shoot that ball after the screen.
Wiggins is also struggling. Kuminga is the only one who could do perimeters but his confidence is still building up. I like Saric but he is not given enough minutes to get hot.
Draymond is also hesitant at shooting even if he is free, he likes to pass it more than shoot. It all comes back to Curry. Their new guys need to be reminded that they can shoot the ball too because Curry will surely be having 2 players defending him after the pick.
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February 26, 2024, 11:41:07 PM
I guess it's kind of expected that the Sixers will have a hard time getting those wins because Embiid is out for at least 2 months because of that injury. It's almost the same as the Nets when they had KD and Kyrie a few years ago. At one point, they were at the top, and when both of them got injured, they just got loss after loss until they went down to the bottom 4.

I'm not saying that the Sixers will experience the same, but they relied too much on Embiid in terms of offense that they forgot to shoot already. Too much exaggeration in that sentence, but what I mean is that no one can step on the team offensively. Not even Tobias Harris which is their supposed 2nd option on offense.

The Sixers are 3-7 in their last 10 games, and their next 5 games are kind of easy at least. They will be up against the Nets, Magic, Pistons, Spurs, Grizzlies. I just hope that they can rack up some wins now that Embiid is still out.
The difference that Embiid makes on the team is clear, but I confess that some players for example, Maxey, Oubre Jr., Hield and others has been performing well , but it is not necessary to reduce the difference that the Sixers are having in the last 10 games (3-7).
I confess that I was surprised by the performance of the Philadelphia 76ers playing against the Cavaliers, there were two games and in those games the Sixers beat the Cavs.
I'll be curious to see the Sixers vs Celtics game at TD Garden today.
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February 26, 2024, 10:07:06 PM
Lakers and Warriors are having trouble going higher because everyone at the western conference at the top ten are at positive results right now. Worst ones are 6-4 in the last 10 games, with bunch of 7-3 and even 8-2 is there. Usually you do not get ALL of them doing this well, some do well and some do badly but this time its not like that at all. In the end, we are seeing it grow and that's the most important part, we should be thanking the basketball gods that its making it so wonderful. I personally believe that we are not really seeing any big changes. Unfortunately, we will see some teams not do this well until the end of the season. Play-in could be very fun this way though.
It did change a lot, as Warriors and the Lakers are below the standing and so someone will really have to take their place in the top. No offense, but it's a surprised to see Timberwolves and the OKC at the top of the Western standings. But as I have said, it's the changing of the guards now, we might see the last of the dynasty in the Warriors as they are getting old every season and they are facing a lot of challenges right now. But for the top 2 teams, the real test for them is the playoff. As far as I remember, they haven't been in the playoff for sometime, so this season will be different for the organizations and we will see how tough they are come playoff time.
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February 26, 2024, 09:54:40 PM
Ugly game between the Knicks and the Pistons. Detroit almost got this one, there was a lot of contact down the stretch that the referee didn't call. Another case of bad officiating, Scramble for the rebound, Grimes get it to Fontecchio, but there was a contact but the referee didn't call and in the ensuing play, the Pistons was able to get the ball through a steal but then again, when they are going into their homecourt, again, lot of contact but there was no whistle for the referee. Too bad for the Pistons, I thought that they are going win this game when they had 1 point lead in the last 7 seconds or so.
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February 26, 2024, 06:27:39 PM
Lakers and Warriors are having trouble going higher because everyone at the western conference at the top ten are at positive results right now. Worst ones are 6-4 in the last 10 games, with bunch of 7-3 and even 8-2 is there. Usually you do not get ALL of them doing this well, some do well and some do badly but this time its not like that at all. In the end, we are seeing it grow and that's the most important part, we should be thanking the basketball gods that its making it so wonderful. I personally believe that we are not really seeing any big changes. Unfortunately, we will see some teams not do this well until the end of the season. Play-in could be very fun this way though.
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February 26, 2024, 05:55:19 PM
The Golden State Warriors seem to still have to find their offensive guy. Steph Curry is changing his way of playing by becoming the screener for his teammates but the problem is the one who should be rewarded for those plays cannot shoot the ball at a high percentage.
I actually like the new approach. The veterans helping the rookies develop and have confidence in themselves can only improve the club in the long-term. They will be more of a threat during the play-in or the playoffs if they can find the right mix before the regular season ends.

Yes, I think him and Kerr have developed this approach in the last 10 games or so. I've noticed that Curry setting picks, even if he didn't have that frame, he is sacrificing his body so that his team mates will be open. But it's just a matter on who is going to shot for them.

So they will have to developed another program for their shooting guards to come up with a high percentage. Klay has been struggling, and I also seen Draymond pulling that 3 from time to time.
It's more noticeable now since they do it more often but I think it started earlier. I'm pretty sure you can see some clips of him setting up screens last season. If it was during their last 10 games then it must be working since they're 8-2.

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Agreed.  He knows he needs one or 2 guys to be rock solid come playoff time.  So if he gets double or tripled they won't be hesitant to put it up there.
Yes. If the guys around him are confident in taking those shots then they become more unpredicatble.
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February 26, 2024, 05:41:47 PM
The Golden State Warriors seem to still have to find their offensive guy. Steph Curry is changing his way of playing by becoming the screener for his teammates but the problem is the one who should be rewarded for those plays cannot shoot the ball at a high percentage.
I actually like the new approach. The veterans helping the rookies develop and have confidence in themselves can only improve the club in the long-term. They will be more of a threat during the play-in or the playoffs if they can find the right mix before the regular season ends.

Agreed.  He knows he needs one or 2 guys to be rock solid come playoff time.  So if he gets double or tripled they won't be hesitant to put it up there.  I know they aren't in theor prime but still having to play them as a 7 or 8 seed is a nightmare.  Playing playoff basketball in Oakland is not easy at all.
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February 26, 2024, 04:43:41 PM
The Golden State Warriors seem to still have to find their offensive guy. Steph Curry is changing his way of playing by becoming the screener for his teammates but the problem is the one who should be rewarded for those plays cannot shoot the ball at a high percentage.
I actually like the new approach. The veterans helping the rookies develop and have confidence in themselves can only improve the club in the long-term. They will be more of a threat during the play-in or the playoffs if they can find the right mix before the regular season ends.

Yes, I think him and Kerr have developed this approach in the last 10 games or so. I've noticed that Curry setting picks, even if he didn't have that frame, he is sacrificing his body so that his team mates will be open. But it's just a matter on who is going to shot for them.

So they will have to developed another program for their shooting guards to come up with a high percentage. Klay has been struggling, and I also seen Draymond pulling that 3 from time to time. And the play might change against once CP3 will be back in the rotation. The Warriors can still make it in the playoff this season though.
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February 26, 2024, 04:30:04 PM
The Golden State Warriors seem to still have to find their offensive guy. Steph Curry is changing his way of playing by becoming the screener for his teammates but the problem is the one who should be rewarded for those plays cannot shoot the ball at a high percentage.
I actually like the new approach. The veterans helping the rookies develop and have confidence in themselves can only improve the club in the long-term. They will be more of a threat during the play-in or the playoffs if they can find the right mix before the regular season ends.
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February 26, 2024, 04:28:17 PM
I watched a game for the first time since the All-Star fiasco and Milwaukee beat Philly very comfortably. While the Sixers were focused on Giannis, other Bucks players hit wide open threes from outside and led by 21 at half time. The fact that they made 7 extra threes made the difference. Giannis didn't have to do much as the Bucks maintained the scoring margin throughout the game. Until Embiid comes back, the Sixers have a very difficult job. He'll be back before the playoffs start, which is good news, but the Sixers need to do better while he's out.

It's the 3 point shooting of the BUcks that made a major difference in this game. Lillard still got his confidence after winning the 3 point shootout as he was 4-8 from that area. However, it was really Beasley who had a very impressive game with 6-7. If Bucks could keep their consistency from beyond the arc, they'll be hard to beat as they could also dominate the paint with the size of Giannis and Lopez.

Easy win by the Bucks. The Bucks were firing from all cylinders and Philly simply has no answer. Bucks scored 2 more threes with less than 9 attempts. Overall the Bucks had 7 more successful FG with less than 18 FGA. Lillard is producing better numbers nowadays after winning the MVP crown in the All Stars.

Shame I did not place a bet because of Doc's unlucky start.

It's very rare to see the Bucks getting big numbers from the 3-point area. Lillard hasn't been consistent in that area and his overall field goal percentage. Probably the All-Star break was able to help them figure out how to make the right chemistry on the floor so they could make everyone work well together. I guess we will have to see again if that could happen in their next game at home against Charlotte, not a strong team, but I just like to see the 3 point shooting consistency again.

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Nonetheless, Philly is indeed struggling to maintain its ranking since the injury of Joel Embiid. Embiid if expected to return later or in the playoffs provided the team can make it.
They are still at number 5 in the standings now, but their numbers are going down, 3-7 in their last 10 games, that's trouble. Embiid can't return in the playoffs as that is not safe for the team. If he wants to make this team competitive in the playoffs, he should return before the playoffs, as the longer he is out, the struggles will continue. I won't be surprised if they drop to 10th and will just play for the play-in tournament to have a chance to qualify.

For this Philly team, time is very important, and that is to get Embiid back in action, provided he's 100% already.
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February 26, 2024, 04:12:33 PM
I watched a game for the first time since the All-Star fiasco and Milwaukee beat Philly very comfortably. While the Sixers were focused on Giannis, other Bucks players hit wide open threes from outside and led by 21 at half time. The fact that they made 7 extra threes made the difference. Giannis didn't have to do much as the Bucks maintained the scoring margin throughout the game. Until Embiid comes back, the Sixers have a very difficult job. He'll be back before the playoffs start, which is good news, but the Sixers need to do better while he's out.
Without embid sixers are a bottom team.  Embid has one of the highest usages in the NBA.  It doesn't look like Philly knows what to do without him out there.  Maxey is a nice piece but not someone who could carry a team at this point in his career.  With embid on the court this team is an issue though.  Nobody can effectively and consistently stop embid for long stretches.
That is definitely true but also true for almost every single team. Without Curry Warriors are nothing, without Lebron the Lakers would be, without Jokic Denver would be, I can continue but every team that has a star that makes them good and the rest are helping the star player out.

Sixers unfortunately lost this season, Embiid will be out whole year so Sixers are just going to end up focusing on what they can do to improve the rest of the team, that's all they can do, this year is already gone, it was already very very questionable that they could win the title with Embiid, probably wouldn't but without Embiid? It's now guaranteed that they would not. If it happened a bit earlier, they could have tanked for a pick if they had any.
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February 26, 2024, 12:07:33 PM
I watched a game for the first time since the All-Star fiasco and Milwaukee beat Philly very comfortably. While the Sixers were focused on Giannis, other Bucks players hit wide open threes from outside and led by 21 at half time. The fact that they made 7 extra threes made the difference. Giannis didn't have to do much as the Bucks maintained the scoring margin throughout the game. Until Embiid comes back, the Sixers have a very difficult job. He'll be back before the playoffs start, which is good news, but the Sixers need to do better while he's out.

It's the 3 point shooting of the BUcks that made a major difference in this game. Lillard still got his confidence after winning the 3 point shootout as he was 4-8 from that area. However, it was really Beasley who had a very impressive game with 6-7. If Bucks could keep their consistency from beyond the arc, they'll be hard to beat as they could also dominate the paint with the size of Giannis and Lopez.

Easy win by the Bucks. The Bucks were firing from all cylinders and Philly simply has no answer. Bucks scored 2 more threes with less than 9 attempts. Overall the Bucks had 7 more successful FG with less than 18 FGA. Lillard is producing better numbers nowadays after winning the MVP crown in the All Stars.

Shame I did not place a bet because of Doc's unlucky start. Nonetheless, Philly is indeed struggling to maintain its ranking since the injury of Joel Embiid. Embiid if expected to return later or in the playoffs provided the team can make it.
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