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January 20, 2024, 05:02:21 AM
There are many "middle level" teams in the NBA now, doing better than people expected, and that is good because for the past some seasons we have seen way too many "just couple of teams trying, rest tanking" type of situation, so when you have like 10 teams playing either great to just decent levels, that is actually fun to see.

I can name 10 teams that are trying at least, and that's important because if you are trying then you are doing the good job, and that should be the most important part of it. I understand it may not feel that way at times, but that is still a good thing to do, I believe that it is still a good job and should be considered a great return one way or another. I believe that NBA will get more value out of teams being good.
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January 20, 2024, 04:08:33 AM
This time, they were up against the defending champion and it's going to hurt to see them losing at very close game again and snapping their winning streak at home.

They were up but not really in control of the game. I can't remember they were up double digit against the Nuggets, so I find it a close game. Murray as what we've seen is the most consistent guy on the Nuggets roster, without him, they won't be able to hand the Celtcis their first lose this season.

But don't worry, they already made a history for the season's best start in the Celtics franchise. A lose is a lose, there's nothing we can do about it and its not really a surprise because they're up against the defending champion.
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January 20, 2024, 03:23:03 AM
Once again Boston showed that they can't play at the end of games, this time at home. The 27-game winning streak at home is over. Tatum had the shot to send the game to overtime, but he was in a hurry and took an early off-balance attempt without the right positioning. Denver played like champions, showing that the playoffs and the finals will be very difficult. The duo of Murray and Jokic played very well. Boston missed too many three-pointers except for the first quarter, if they shot with a little higher percentage they could've won the game. It's not that important to lose a regular season game but they have to be careful, this is a preview of a possible finals match-up.


That have been their Achilles heel this season, they're too good a shooting team and they know it too so it hurt them a lot when they need a win and tie making shot they often give up easy play and end up with the very wrong ones like leaving layups to tie a game and passing it out for a 3 pt shot, I remember just like how they lost against Warriors about a less than month ago, where they had a 6 chances opportunities came begging but they kept going for a 3 point shot and end losing the game.

Or how they lost to Pacers if I'm not mistaken, they already had a good lead but then they allow the Pacers to comeback strong in the 4th quarter and make a lot of wrong decisions in the end. Although against the Pistons, same situation, giving them a 3 point and then the game was force by the Pistons into OT and they almost lost the game. I think they really need to overcome that attitude or mentality specially in close out games. This time, they were up against the defending champion and it's going to hurt to see them losing at very close game again and snapping their winning streak at home.
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January 20, 2024, 02:04:08 AM
Once again Boston showed that they can't play at the end of games, this time at home. The 27-game winning streak at home is over. Tatum had the shot to send the game to overtime, but he was in a hurry and took an early off-balance attempt without the right positioning. Denver played like champions, showing that the playoffs and the finals will be very difficult. The duo of Murray and Jokic played very well. Boston missed too many three-pointers except for the first quarter, if they shot with a little higher percentage they could've won the game. It's not that important to lose a regular season game but they have to be careful, this is a preview of a possible finals match-up.


That have been their Achilles heel this season, they're too good a shooting team and they know it too so it hurt them a lot when they need a win and tie making shot they often give up easy play and end up with the very wrong ones like leaving layups to tie a game and passing it out for a 3 pt shot, I remember just like how they lost against Warriors about a less than month ago, where they had a 6 chances opportunities came begging but they kept going for a 3 point shot and end losing the game.
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January 20, 2024, 12:32:41 AM
Poor D'Lo, his name keeps popping up for a trade between the Lakers and the Hawks,

And as per report, the trade might look like this,

Lakers get:
- Dejounte Murray

Hawks get:
- D’Angelo Russell
- Jalen Hood-Schifino
- 2029 1st round pick
- Additional Draft Comp

It's not yet final and official, but it looks like after playing good in the last couple of games for the Lakers, D'Lo is on the move again.

Nothing is official yet, but DLo will be the primary piece for the Lakers to trade anytime now. That would be the exact reason why DLo has been so inconsistent after the IST. I'm not really sure if Dejounte Murray would make any difference for the Lakers, because I think the Lakers are actually fine with the current roster, they just need to be more consistent and play more defense like the way they play in the IST.
It's going to get ugly when Reaves, Vando, or Rui will get involve in the trade they're planning to initiate.
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January 19, 2024, 11:42:56 PM
Boston Celtics' perfect home win ended by the champions Denver Nuggets.
Hello, hello, x3.15.

Congrats @danherbias07, ,nice odds.

That went up to 4.85 when the Celtics were on a 5-point lead. Jokic just reminded everyone why he was a two-time MVP and a champion. 1 assist shy of a triple-double and moves his feet to help defensively. I mean, in the last seconds of the game, he defended everyone that went in front of him, even Jrue Holiday with fast feet was stopped.
But the best part that happened today is Jamal Murray showing up. He lit the fire, with 35 points, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists.
I think the Celtics lost because they are missing their threes, a lot of them. Most of the time they are open but they cannot just sink it in. The only problem is they fall in love with shooting outside shots even though they are missing them. They should've tried to score mid-range and inside. They can do that because of the Nuggets' lack of defense, they don't have a shot blocker. I mean, look at Tatum with that dunk, one crossover and he attacked the rim without any resistance. The Celtics is a physical team, they should've stuck with that.

Celtics doesn't have a kind of player like Jamal who could create his own shots. He is very slick on the floor even if he'll be defended by anyone, he can always find a way to make his own shot or pass the ball to an open man. Brown and Holiday could not defend him, Murray could really change the complexion of the game if he's hitting his shots.

As for my betting, I was suppose to bet Nuggets after the 3rd quarter, the moneyline odds so sweet but I got tempted on other market, and that is the Nuggets winning by 11+ with a very tempted x30 odds, lose but I'm fine.
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January 19, 2024, 11:22:25 PM
Boston Celtics' perfect home win ended by the champions Denver Nuggets.
Hello, hello, x3.15.

That went up to 4.85 when the Celtics were on a 5-point lead. Jokic just reminded everyone why he was a two-time MVP and a champion. 1 assist shy of a triple-double and moves his feet to help defensively. I mean, in the last seconds of the game, he defended everyone that went in front of him, even Jrue Holiday with fast feet was stopped.
But the best part that happened today is Jamal Murray showing up. He lit the fire, with 35 points, 8 rebounds, and 5 assists.
I think the Celtics lost because they are missing their threes, a lot of them. Most of the time they are open but they cannot just sink it in. The only problem is they fall in love with shooting outside shots even though they are missing them. They should've tried to score mid-range and inside. They can do that because of the Nuggets' lack of defense, they don't have a shot blocker. I mean, look at Tatum with that dunk, one crossover and he attacked the rim without any resistance. The Celtics is a physical team, they should've stuck with that.
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January 19, 2024, 11:00:51 PM
Once again Boston showed that they can't play at the end of games, this time at home. The 27-game winning streak at home is over. Tatum had the shot to send the game to overtime, but he was in a hurry and took an early off-balance attempt without the right positioning. Denver played like champions, showing that the playoffs and the finals will be very difficult. The duo of Murray and Jokic played very well. Boston missed too many three-pointers except for the first quarter, if they shot with a little higher percentage they could've won the game.
That's why Denver were the champion last season. Boston needs to learn how to close a game with a win, last time, they almost give up their losing streak, good thing the game went to OT and they won the game, that was against the Timberwolves. This time around, it's finally over, and with that I'm happy that I decided to bet not only for them to win but with the handicap as well, to make it sure, so 2 wins for me.

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It's not that important to lose a regular season game but they have to be careful, this is a preview of a possible finals match-up.
Possible but there's never a sure thing in the East, we should not forget how the Miami Heat made them cry.
EFS
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January 19, 2024, 10:38:21 PM
Once again Boston showed that they can't play at the end of games, this time at home. The 27-game winning streak at home is over. Tatum had the shot to send the game to overtime, but he was in a hurry and took an early off-balance attempt without the right positioning. Denver played like champions, showing that the playoffs and the finals will be very difficult. The duo of Murray and Jokic played very well. Boston missed too many three-pointers except for the first quarter, if they shot with a little higher percentage they could've won the game. It's not that important to lose a regular season game but they have to be careful, this is a preview of a possible finals match-up.
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January 19, 2024, 08:49:44 PM
I also read that Kyle Kuzma as well be on the trading block, and there are multiple teams interested on him.

Maybe Kyle Kuzma for Russell would be a good trade. But this scario look favorable on the Lakers since Kyle Kuzma had developed his game to be the main man of the Wizards, Lakers would be lucky if this would happen.

Lakers doesn't need a true PG actually, Lebron handles the ball, so he is doing the job. They need a good scorer that when Lebron has nowhere to go he can shoot the ball when Lebron pass it on. can't wait for the big news to splash, but for sure D'Lo despite showing good game on recent games will not be in the LA roster after the trade deadline.
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January 19, 2024, 07:58:55 PM
Poor D'Lo, his name keeps popping up for a trade between the Lakers and the Hawks,

And as per report, the trade might look like this,

Lakers get:
- Dejounte Murray

Hawks get:
- D’Angelo Russell
- Jalen Hood-Schifino
- 2029 1st round pick
- Additional Draft Comp

It's not yet final and official, but it looks like after playing good in the last couple of games for the Lakers, D'Lo is on the move again.

I can't see Atlanta pulling the trigger on this trade.  Dlo is OK but trading your starting point guard for Lakers bench players and a draft pick 6 years from now does little in terms of making them competitively better.  I can see a contender adding a young pice and a pick closer to now or 2 picks even.  Murray is a great addition for a contending team. 
It doesn't really make sense for Atlanta, they already have Trae Young to be their main point guard, so adding another one won't help their cause. And I also don't understand why Murray is a trading bait, he has been helping the team with Young as their main offensive weapon. But it is over the news, so I guess the Hawks is willing to let him go. So we will see how it will goes down, if there are noises and multiple reports already, we might see it happening in the next couple of days and obviously the winner here will be Los Angeles Lakers as their roster will not been impacted by this trade and they will add another versatile player in Dejounte Murray and just giving up only 1 future picks and some money in return. I also read that Kyle Kuzma as well be on the trading block, and there are multiple teams interested on him.
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January 19, 2024, 07:53:16 PM
The Boston Celtics are 20-0 at home. I don't remember seeing such a good home performance in years. 1985-86 Celtics went 40-1 at home, and that was almost 40 years ago! I don't know how long this year's Celtics will remain undefeated, but instead of trying to break that record, they better be champions like the '86 Celtics. With a roster this good, a championship after so many years is what is expected of them. Tatum especially needs it to put his name up there with the best.

Yes, they better be known to have won a ring, instead of that great record at home. Similar to what the Warriors did before, breaking the Bulls all time winning record in a season but then fell short in the championship. So no one is talking about the 73-9 but instead we still have the memories on how dominant Michael Jordan that year that made 72-10 record.

And it will also be a legacy for Tatum and Jaylen Brown, the best duo right now in the NBA to bring that trophy to the Boston Garden and fans again. They almost made it in the previous years, but with the current lineup, I think this is the closest they might get and hopefully they won't blunder that opportunity again.
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January 19, 2024, 06:29:30 PM
Pascal is definitely going to be a very big asset for the Indiana Pacers. In my opinion, he is going to contribute to the team a lot as well. So I think it is easy to say that this was a win for the Indiana Pacers. I think we can also say any doubt that the player is also in his prime time, right? At least that's what I think when I consider his age. Yes I cant deny sometimes the performance from the Indiana pacers has been a little inconsistent in recent times. however I think they have the capability of improving the performance and being a lot more consistent.
It was a good decision for the Indiana Pacers. Having Pascal added on their roster makes them more relevant and even stronger. We've got another team to watch out and let's see how is this going to change their current rank from overall #7 and #7 as well on the Eastern conference.

Yes indeed, Siakam is something who can really bring those productions that Pacers needed, I just hope that he can quickly connect
his skills with the rest of his new teammates.

It's interesting to see if how they will manage now to keep their position and have that drive to move forward to the next round.
It might take some while until he's got his connection to his new teammates. I guess that this is one of the hardest thing that new transfers will have to do. There's always an adjustment period for most of them and they need to do it as soon as possible.

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Maybe it was long overdue and Indiana really eyes him for a long time. When most of the teammates that he's got during their championship days have been scattered in every team in the league.

Raptors surely got attracted with those first round picks that Pacers offered to them, like you mentioned, all the star players during that
season that they become champions are all gone,

It's about time for Siakam and the Raptors to decide and now is the best timing for them, what will be the outcome still unknown, only
time can tell if which side will be the benefactors of this trade.
They're going to build a new team with that but it's going to take for a while for them as well. With the hope of the first round picks, so it will take them patience. But they know what they're doing and this is pure business on them and they think that with the replacement of Pascal, they can have a good outlook on it. Although on the side of the fans, they like it if they didn't traded Pascal.
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January 19, 2024, 05:55:50 PM
The Boston Celtics are 20-0 at home. I don't remember seeing such a good home performance in years. 1985-86 Celtics went 40-1 at home, and that was almost 40 years ago! I don't know how long this year's Celtics will remain undefeated, but instead of trying to break that record, they better be champions like the '86 Celtics. With a roster this good, a championship after so many years is what is expected of them. Tatum especially needs it to put his name up there with the best.
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January 19, 2024, 05:31:13 PM
Poor D'Lo, his name keeps popping up for a trade between the Lakers and the Hawks,

And as per report, the trade might look like this,

Lakers get:
- Dejounte Murray

Hawks get:
- D’Angelo Russell
- Jalen Hood-Schifino
- 2029 1st round pick
- Additional Draft Comp

It's not yet final and official, but it looks like after playing good in the last couple of games for the Lakers, D'Lo is on the move again.

I can't see Atlanta pulling the trigger on this trade.  Dlo is OK but trading your starting point guard for Lakers bench players and a draft pick 6 years from now does little in terms of making them competitively better.  I can see a contender adding a young pice and a pick closer to now or 2 picks even.  Murray is a great addition for a contending team. 
legendary
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January 19, 2024, 04:45:14 PM
Poor D'Lo, his name keeps popping up for a trade between the Lakers and the Hawks,

And as per report, the trade might look like this,

Lakers get:
- Dejounte Murray

Hawks get:
- D’Angelo Russell
- Jalen Hood-Schifino
- 2029 1st round pick
- Additional Draft Comp

It's not yet final and official, but it looks like after playing good in the last couple of games for the Lakers, D'Lo is on the move again.
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January 19, 2024, 02:58:13 PM
Utah won 4 of the 5 matches it played at home, excluding the postponed Golden State match. In its last game, it lost 129-134 to Oklahoma at home. After the Lakers and Clippers, Oklahoma defeated Utah, which was in great form, in its last away match. Oklahoma's last away game will be against Minnesota on January 21, but I don't think it can beat Minnesota.
The Utah Jazz will now go on a 6-game road series.
If they really aim for the top positions, they need to get at least 3 wins out of these 6 matches as a team.
I really like the Utah Jazz as a team and I believe they can get at least 4 wins.
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January 19, 2024, 12:55:01 PM
They were able to beat strong teams before their winning streak was snapped. If we go back to their record, we can see they beat the Sixers, Bucks and Denver. Winning against the Denver which is a defending champion is already enough to conclude that they are a strong team, although young and lack of experience.  A lost of OKC should not be a factor to conclude that they have no chance in the playoffs, this team are playing good basketball, everyone in the team are ccontributing, so let's be optimistic with this team. 

The performances of teams like the Thunder and Timberwolves are impressive this regular season. Honestly, I'm still not used to seeing these two teams at the top of the standings.
However, it is worth keeping in mind that a good performance by any NBA team throughout the regular season doesn't guarantee that a team will succeed in the playoffs. A prime example of this is the Suns in the 21/22 season.
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January 19, 2024, 10:49:29 AM
How about the Jazz losing to OKC, which snapped their winning streak?

I saw how good OKC is at making adjustments. Although they were able to lead by as much as 19 points early on, the Jazz came back to make it a close game. However, OKC continued to play hard, not allowing the Jazz to take the lead. In fact, they never led in the game.


They were young teams that could take their roles quickly when given instructions and one of the teams that will gonna probably play in the NBA playoffs this year. perhaps if they can only be consistent with this kind of play with the same star players these coming seasons, they will become the next Boston Celtics which will gonna be strong contenders and hard to beat at their home court. As for the Jazz, considering they were able to climb up to the number 9 spot despite their struggles in the early season, it could be that they will gonna stay at that spot unless they can improve their play when facing strong teams in their next games.

They were able to beat strong teams before their winning streak was snapped. If we go back to their record, we can see they beat the Sixers, Bucks and Denver. Winning against the Denver which is a defending champion is already enough to conclude that they are a strong team, although young and lack of experience.  A lost of OKC should not be a factor to conclude that they have no chance in the playoffs, this team are playing good basketball, everyone in the team are ccontributing, so let's be optimistic with this team. 

Indeed, beating both Bucks and sixers which is really hot in the east while the Denver as you mentioned the current title holder, those 3 teams
that they beats gives them a credit that they are really doing good.

They might be still a young squad but if they keep that confidence and keep that type of game that they are executing, the winning chance is better.

A lost is a lost and they just need to focus on their next game, try to win back and continue playing great.
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January 19, 2024, 10:45:52 AM
I missed the trade of Siakam to Indiana Pacers, was it a good decision for the Raptors? I don't know but this is what's permanent in the league, we're always going to see trades everywhere. And even for the franchise players, it's now possible that they get traded away based on the interest of the management.

We can just always think of the "IF" they've retained the champion roster that they've got. Well, it's just part of the history now and with the Nuggets in the future, I think that we might see the same thing.
For me the Raptors won this trade. Imagine getting three 1st-rounders for Pascal Siakam but I think Pascal Siakam will also do well in Indiana Pacers. I like the move for both teams. This is benefits for the Raptors in their rebuilding process.

Currently, Chris Boucher is the only player remaining from the 2019 Toronto Raptors championship roster. The championship team caliber has been gone for a long time for the Raptors since Kawhi left.
Yeah. There's still Chris Boucher on that winning roster but he's not the same as the other known players from his batch. Every first 1 rounder picks are good and having it three is an advantage but, it's always guaranteed that the first pick is the best pick at all.

We've just seen it on this batch but yeah, can't remove the fact that it is an advantage for the Raptors and all they have to do is to rebuild the team and have some chemistry again.
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