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Quote from: chixka000 on July 21, 2016, 11:35:42 AM

Absolutely durant should remember now that he is no more a leader in golden states he must bare with them but after all i still believe durant will play a really big role in gsw

Of course he must the one to step and he's clutch plays I think will be out of his line now since Kerr will surely give most of the clutch plays to the splash brothers.

I'd like to see now how GSW will play this season. Durant and the rest of GSW has one thing in common, they all know the feeling of becoming a loser even with the advantage of 3-1 lol. Cheesy

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Yes, KD isn't actually a choker, but he is not in the level of Lebron James or even Chris Paul when it comes to leadership. He will give you points and all the stats but there is something lacking in him. Maybe because he is so kind and doesn't want to overstep on his teammates.

Durant is a great leader, he lead OKC Thunder until last season. Westbrook played exceptionally great and take the leading role from Durant. In Golden State things will be different. They have a lot of super-star players. It'll be hard to share ball and take responsibility. There will be too many choices.

Absolutely durant should remember now that he is no more a leader in golden states he must bare with them but after all i still believe durant will play a really big role in gsw

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Dwayne Wade is now on Chicago Bulls but Knicks are putting some nice offer to get Wade.

Hmm if they really want to push for Wade, Knicks must offer a good reward for the Bulls and not on Wade itself since if Bulls will likely get some multiple promising players, I doubt they will reject it.

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Quote from: BicolIsarog on July 21, 2016, 09:09:52 AM

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Did Varejao and David West take the two biggest L's last season?

West takes a massive paycut to be on a 67 win team only to get outshined by a 73 win team and bounced out in the second round
Varejao gets traded, signs with the warriors to coast his way to a championship, only to fail miserably and remind everyone how truly trash he is.

They are veterans and rich already, this is the time for them to chase for the championship so I think its fair for them. It's just unlucky for them to not get the championship. And besides, they are not the star player in thier past team. Remember Malone did in his career.

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Did Varejao and David West take the two biggest L's last season?

West takes a massive paycut to be on a 67 win team only to get outshined by a 73 win team and bounced out in the second round
Varejao gets traded, signs with the warriors to coast his way to a championship, only to fail miserably and remind everyone how truly trash he is.

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Quote from: Golftech on July 20, 2016, 01:28:42 AM

bogut is a talented center even lebron got interrupted when he is in the paint i think losing him will be another thing that gsw need to consider durant is a big success for the offensive side but they also needed to think about how to defend lebron and irving as lebron already succeed to have crown and bring cavs to their goal then adding bird man it will be easy for kevin love now to penetrate more because there is a legit center who will help thompson look at them, irving, lebron at front to run while bird man thompson and love to dominate the paint.

Durant is a choker. We see that multiple times, NBA finals and their playoffs run against GSW. They just add another player that knows the feeling of being lead by 3-1 then still lose. ROFL.

Sorry to say for die hard GSWS fans here that you can't easily say that next season is yours. And you know what is the pressured team now? That is GSW. If they can't win the title next season then shame to this superteam. If they did then I will accept all trahstalks here.

I don't think Durant is a choker but he definitely doesn't have the personality that's needed to lead a team, he is no leader, that's for sure. Now it's clear as water, he opted to join a complete established franchise with star players (the current MVP for god's sake!). The way I see it, if healthy, this GSW will be almost impossible to beat, but if Durant or Curry gets injured the team just doesn't have the same depth as last year and the whole thing could turn into a complete fiasco...

Yes, KD isn't actually a choker, but he is not in the level of Lebron James or even Chris Paul when it comes to leadership. He will give you points and all the stats but there is something lacking in him. Maybe because he is so kind and doesn't want to overstep on his teammates.

KD is great and whoever said he is a choker is not really watching him played. He almost hits the winning last seconds shot of his team and he usually the one who lead his team when his team were down and make a rally to win.

I think what he meant was that he choked on important games, like the finals this year (and NBA finals back then against Miami). He certainly doesn't have a problem scoring in 4th quarters and won plenty of games like this but when OKC most needed him he seemed to fail. The 1-3 comeback is too fresh so I kinda agree with what he's saying.

Anyway, the bottomline that Durant won't be the leader on this GSW and I think that's why he left OKC, they wanted him to be the leader but he doesn't want that pressure. Westbrook with all its shortcomings was the one doing the "leading"...remember when Durant was injury and he almost single handedly classified OKC to the playoffs averaging a triple double down the stretch?

Maybe but everyone chokes even Lebron James choked so have when he was in cavaliers as his first team, the problem is that he has no good teammate that can back him up when tough times and I think westbrook is not a good fit for him and he realize it that is why he leave the OKC for the Warriors.

It would be interesting to find out who the top scorer for GSW would turn out to be. Will the top three scorers in Durant, Curry and Thompson average atleast 20 points each per game? When Miami formed their Big 3 a few years ago, we saw a big dip in Bosh's scoring and a bit from D.Wade too.

I don't know if Curry will score more points in the next season since it's quite disappointing seeing him underperformed in the playoffs. It might be possible that the trio will score at least 20 points per game, but I hope Curry will bring his momentum back to pull GSW for another title.

The scoring will be shared among the three because they are the threats in the offense. Having said that, I think it is going to be harden who will win and MVP and scoring champ this season.

Well, let's see about it if Harden might surprise us with his performance next season.

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Who will have a higher ceiling - Justise Winslow or Jaylen Brown?

Similar type of guys with elite athleticism but no reliable outside shots. Winslow stronger built, Brown a better run, jump athlete. Who do you think will have a higher ceiling?
I would go with Winslow.

I think Winslow can now prove himself that he belongs to the NBA with DWade out of Heat. And for Brown, he will still adjust in the type of game in the pro league. If they can improve thier outside shooting, they will be in the NBA for long time.

Winslow is already an elite defender. I have no idea how good of a defender Brown is. Winslow might actually make an All-Def team this season. Cheers.

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Quote from: BicolIsarog on July 21, 2016, 07:26:21 AM

Who will have a higher ceiling - Justise Winslow or Jaylen Brown?

Similar type of guys with elite athleticism but no reliable outside shots. Winslow stronger built, Brown a better run, jump athlete. Who do you think will have a higher ceiling?
I would go with Winslow.

I think Winslow can now prove himself that he belongs to the NBA with DWade out of Heat. And for Brown, he will still adjust in the type of game in the pro league. If they can improve thier outside shooting, they will be in the NBA for long time.

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hahaha

that's reality it isn't durant who choked alone it is also curry and the rest of the team, luckily for us because cavs wins and gave us our earnings big odd still reminding me how sweet that game went, we just all need to wait and hope for the rematch and see who will wins.

I actually bet on cavaliers in the finals though I like warriors as a team. I just see that the cavaliers are undervalued and warriors are overrated with curry leading the way to get back in the series against the OKC.

Safe To Say Cleveland Cavaliers Are the Best Team Ever.
I mean they did beat the most regular season team of all-time. Unanimous MVP, DPOY runner-up, best SG in the league, COY, and a finals MVP coming off their bench. By far the most talented team of all-time. Hell, I don't even think Cleveland was close to an all-time talented team.

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Who will have a higher ceiling - Justise Winslow or Jaylen Brown?

Similar type of guys with elite athleticism but no reliable outside shots. Winslow stronger built, Brown a better run, jump athlete. Who do you think will have a higher ceiling?
I would go with Winslow.

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Quote from: Golftech on July 21, 2016, 07:05:19 AM

Quote from: Rubberduckie on July 21, 2016, 04:45:15 AM

was checking out a recap of the nba moves so far on ESPN and I was
shocked to see how well the Jazz had done.

I didnt even notice they picked up a few vets and that was their only weakness
this year (not having enough vets) They scooped up Joe Johnson and traded for
Diaw and George Hill. I definitely think they sneak into the playoffs this year.

let see how this trade will comes up mate as jazz has been long seen in the play offs after the malone era just hoping for the best
nba will be full of surprises guys as i mention it is a long season to wait and those team will try to come up it is not the cavs or gsw
alone but those who's been underrated will show stardom too. good luck.

Well, with current line up due to the free agency they have improve their line, I think they will reach the playoffs and they will be exciting to watch again. I just love how the jazz play on their defense but last season they lack on the offense and hope this time would be a good season for them.

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Quote from: Rubberduckie on July 21, 2016, 04:45:15 AM

was checking out a recap of the nba moves so far on ESPN and I was
shocked to see how well the Jazz had done.

I didnt even notice they picked up a few vets and that was their only weakness
this year (not having enough vets) They scooped up Joe Johnson and traded for
Diaw and George Hill. I definitely think they sneak into the playoffs this year.

let see how this trade will comes up mate as jazz has been long seen in the play offs after the malone era just hoping for the best
nba will be full of surprises guys as i mention it is a long season to wait and those team will try to come up it is not the cavs or gsw
alone but those who's been underrated will show stardom too. good luck.

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Quote from: Rubberduckie on July 21, 2016, 04:45:15 AM

was checking out a recap of the nba moves so far on ESPN and I was
shocked to see how well the Jazz had done.

I didnt even notice they picked up a few vets and that was their only weakness
this year (not having enough vets) They scooped up Joe Johnson and traded for
Diaw and George Hill. I definitely think they sneak into the playoffs this year.

Yeah they are decent team now. But still, I will not bet for them for now. Let see when the season starts if they can play as a team maybe it worth my bet.

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was checking out a recap of the nba moves so far on ESPN and I was
shocked to see how well the Jazz had done.

I didnt even notice they picked up a few vets and that was their only weakness
this year (not having enough vets) They scooped up Joe Johnson and traded for
Diaw and George Hill. I definitely think they sneak into the playoffs this year.

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Quote from: Golftech on July 21, 2016, 03:59:31 AM

hahaha

that's reality it isn't durant who choked alone it is also curry and the rest of the team, luckily for us because cavs wins and gave us our earnings big odd still reminding me how sweet that game went, we just all need to wait and hope for the rematch and see who will wins.

I actually bet on cavaliers in the finals though I like warriors as a team. I just see that the cavaliers are undervalued and warriors are overrated with curry leading the way to get back in the series against the OKC.

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hahaha

that's reality it isn't durant who choked alone it is also curry and the rest of the team, luckily for us because cavs wins and gave us our earnings big odd still reminding me how sweet that game went, we just all need to wait and hope for the rematch and see who will wins.

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bogut is a talented center even lebron got interrupted when he is in the paint i think losing him will be another thing that gsw need to consider durant is a big success for the offensive side but they also needed to think about how to defend lebron and irving as lebron already succeed to have crown and bring cavs to their goal then adding bird man it will be easy for kevin love now to penetrate more because there is a legit center who will help thompson look at them, irving, lebron at front to run while bird man thompson and love to dominate the paint.

Durant is a choker. We see that multiple times, NBA finals and their playoffs run against GSW. They just add another player that knows the feeling of being lead by 3-1 then still lose. ROFL.

Sorry to say for die hard GSWS fans here that you can't easily say that next season is yours. And you know what is the pressured team now? That is GSW. If they can't win the title next season then shame to this superteam. If they did then I will accept all trahstalks here.

I don't think Durant is a choker but he definitely doesn't have the personality that's needed to lead a team, he is no leader, that's for sure. Now it's clear as water, he opted to join a complete established franchise with star players (the current MVP for god's sake!). The way I see it, if healthy, this GSW will be almost impossible to beat, but if Durant or Curry gets injured the team just doesn't have the same depth as last year and the whole thing could turn into a complete fiasco...

Yes, KD isn't actually a choker, but he is not in the level of Lebron James or even Chris Paul when it comes to leadership. He will give you points and all the stats but there is something lacking in him. Maybe because he is so kind and doesn't want to overstep on his teammates.

KD is great and whoever said he is a choker is not really watching him played. He almost hits the winning last seconds shot of his team and he usually the one who lead his team when his team were down and make a rally to win.

I think what he meant was that he choked on important games, like the finals this year (and NBA finals back then against Miami). He certainly doesn't have a problem scoring in 4th quarters and won plenty of games like this but when OKC most needed him he seemed to fail. The 1-3 comeback is too fresh so I kinda agree with what he's saying.

Anyway, the bottomline that Durant won't be the leader on this GSW and I think that's why he left OKC, they wanted him to be the leader but he doesn't want that pressure. Westbrook with all its shortcomings was the one doing the "leading"...remember when Durant was injury and he almost single handedly classified OKC to the playoffs averaging a triple double down the stretch?

Good thing you got at least some of my point. Hatuferu better read some of my post before you post so you know how to reply clearly. Im not stating the Durant always choked but can you tell me what's your view on KD's performance when they are leading 3-1 against the GSW? Also back in finals against Miami. If you really watched NBA then tell me your views about this important game.

When it come for a performance, KD is really great but what about those games that can changed his career? What happen to those opportunity that they wasted?

Sometimes luck is also a factor to win in the Finals, if you are talking that Durant choke because he let it slip when they are leading 3-1 against the warriors then how to do you called the warriors not able to protect their lead in the series when they are also up 3-1 in the Finals.

I guess it is just right to call that Durant and curry and the entire warriors squad are a bunch of chokers and not only Durant.

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bogut is a talented center even lebron got interrupted when he is in the paint i think losing him will be another thing that gsw need to consider durant is a big success for the offensive side but they also needed to think about how to defend lebron and irving as lebron already succeed to have crown and bring cavs to their goal then adding bird man it will be easy for kevin love now to penetrate more because there is a legit center who will help thompson look at them, irving, lebron at front to run while bird man thompson and love to dominate the paint.

Durant is a choker. We see that multiple times, NBA finals and their playoffs run against GSW. They just add another player that knows the feeling of being lead by 3-1 then still lose. ROFL.

Sorry to say for die hard GSWS fans here that you can't easily say that next season is yours. And you know what is the pressured team now? That is GSW. If they can't win the title next season then shame to this superteam. If they did then I will accept all trahstalks here.

I don't think Durant is a choker but he definitely doesn't have the personality that's needed to lead a team, he is no leader, that's for sure. Now it's clear as water, he opted to join a complete established franchise with star players (the current MVP for god's sake!). The way I see it, if healthy, this GSW will be almost impossible to beat, but if Durant or Curry gets injured the team just doesn't have the same depth as last year and the whole thing could turn into a complete fiasco...

Yes, KD isn't actually a choker, but he is not in the level of Lebron James or even Chris Paul when it comes to leadership. He will give you points and all the stats but there is something lacking in him. Maybe because he is so kind and doesn't want to overstep on his teammates.

KD is great and whoever said he is a choker is not really watching him played. He almost hits the winning last seconds shot of his team and he usually the one who lead his team when his team were down and make a rally to win.

I think what he meant was that he choked on important games, like the finals this year (and NBA finals back then against Miami). He certainly doesn't have a problem scoring in 4th quarters and won plenty of games like this but when OKC most needed him he seemed to fail. The 1-3 comeback is too fresh so I kinda agree with what he's saying.

Anyway, the bottomline that Durant won't be the leader on this GSW and I think that's why he left OKC, they wanted him to be the leader but he doesn't want that pressure. Westbrook with all its shortcomings was the one doing the "leading"...remember when Durant was injury and he almost single handedly classified OKC to the playoffs averaging a triple double down the stretch?

Good thing you got at least some of my point. Hatuferu better read some of my post before you post so you know how to reply clearly. Im not stating the Durant always choked but can you tell me what's your view on KD's performance when they are leading 3-1 against the GSW? Also back in finals against Miami. If you really watched NBA then tell me your views about this important game.

When it come for a performance, KD is really great but what about those games that can changed his career? What happen to those opportunity that they wasted?

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