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You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago.

I also thought that it was a done deal already as Howard is a sho-in for the Warriors and it might work for him and for the Warriors as well. Maybe we will know what Dwight Howard didn't passed. Perhaps maybe his age or his antics in and out of the court.

Or just the Warriors just looking for a swing man as they have already Draymond and Saric and other names mentioned as well that they could experimented and developed to become a good back up Center for them.

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Quote from: blockman on September 23, 2023, 03:52:30 AM

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It would seem that Howard was literally one step away from returning to the NBA, especially when there were rumors of Warriors veterans approving the idea of bringing Dwight into the fold.
It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong, although I think either Howard failed to impress Warriors management during the interview process or he didn't accept the role he was offered.

Everybody thought he was already about to sign with the Warriors but it didn't happen. When things were almost happening smoothly, it went south.

The hype was already there, but it's unfortunate to know that this may not materialize. I don't have all the details yet since the article I read doesn't specify. I'm not sure if it's the Warriors not wanting to sign Howard or if Howard chose to play with another team. As of now, there has been no update on which team he will play for.

Howard surely isn't aiming for a big salary, as he knows he's worth a veteran contract. But we also know that CP3 and Howard would make a good tandem. Unfortunately, it's been canceled, so let's put an end to the speculation.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 23, 2023, 02:56:15 AM

It would seem that Howard was literally one step away from returning to the NBA, especially when there were rumors of Warriors veterans approving the idea of bringing Dwight into the fold.
It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong, although I think either Howard failed to impress Warriors management during the interview process or he didn't accept the role he was offered.

Everybody thought he was already about to sign with the Warriors but it didn't happen. When things were almost happening smoothly, it went south.

Quote from: dwyane36 on September 23, 2023, 02:56:15 AM

I wonder if there are any other teams that might be interested in Howard.

We will know about that soon and maybe there's a third party that intervene for this deal and that's why the Warriors management probably seen that possible scenario so instead of letting things happen, they're the first one to decline the deal and to make it clear to the world that they're not going to sign Dwight. Hoping that there's really another team that's interested of signing him.

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Quote from: xLays on September 23, 2023, 12:52:58 AM

Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks.

Max Strus wouldn't vomeback to Celtics he's signing to Cavaliers this time around. And, it's not Michael Beasley tbh but Malik Beasley, was shocked to see the Bucks would be interested to Michael Beasley when he's already playing on the CBA and no rumors if he'll be back again though he play great there.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 22, 2023, 06:41:10 PM

Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago.

It would seem that Howard was literally one step away from returning to the NBA, especially when there were rumors of Warriors veterans approving the idea of bringing Dwight into the fold.
It would be interesting to know what exactly went wrong, although I think either Howard failed to impress Warriors management during the interview process or he didn't accept the role he was offered.
I wonder if there are any other teams that might be interested in Howard.

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Some of players that changes team offseason: John Collins Hawks to Jazz, Dennis Schroder Lakers to Raptors, Kristaps Porziņģis Wizards to Celtics, Obi Toppin Knicks to Pacers, Max Strus Heat to Celtics, Bruce Brown Nuggets to Pacers, Joe Harris Nets to Piston, Lonnie Walker 4 Lakers to Nets, Joe Ingles to Magic and Michael Beasley to Bucks.

Got that summary here: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxdQ3wZrBKd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Ok, I guess the Warriors will have to look for another big man still? Or will tend still contend with the small line up. But I do not think that it will be enough, currently we have big men, like Jokic, Embiid and even Giannis or AD, and with Draymond mostly playing them, it will be hard for the Warriors with the small line up that they have right now.

They don't have the advantage on the speed, their best player is above 30++, no more young legs like Jordan Poole. But maybe they see something in Dwight that will not be perfect fit. Maybe Howard really lost some steps as he himself is also on the twilight of his career.

Maybe, as they are checking if Dwight will be fit, but maybe they see that it won't fit to what they are looking or maybe also that there
are things that affect the decision from the management.

We don't know if it's all about the skills and capabilities or there are also part of the negotiations that both
side didn't agree upon, just for my personal take, though.

I try to look at their big men line up and this is the name that comes up, Trayce Jackson-Davis and Usman Garuba on a two-way.

I'm not familiar with the two names, but maybe they are more impressive that Dwight. And we all know that the Warriors loves to developed new players like in the case of Kuminga or even Wiseman (but they have to trade him).

So let's see if this is the right way for the Warriors, Looney, Draymond, and Saric.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 22, 2023, 11:37:27 PM

Quote from: livingfree on September 22, 2023, 06:09:34 PM

You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Ok, I guess the Warriors will have to look for another big man still? Or will tend still contend with the small line up. But I do not think that it will be enough, currently we have big men, like Jokic, Embiid and even Giannis or AD, and with Draymond mostly playing them, it will be hard for the Warriors with the small line up that they have right now.

They don't have the advantage on the speed, their best player is above 30++, no more young legs like Jordan Poole. But maybe they see something in Dwight that will not be perfect fit. Maybe Howard really lost some steps as he himself is also on the twilight of his career.

Maybe, as they are checking if Dwight will be fit, but maybe they see that it won't fit to what they are looking or maybe also that there
are things that affect the decision from the management.

We don't know if it's all about the skills and capabilities or there are also part of the negotiations that both
side didn't agree upon, just for my personal take, though.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 22, 2023, 06:09:34 PM

You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Ok, I guess the Warriors will have to look for another big man still? Or will tend still contend with the small line up. But I do not think that it will be enough, currently we have big men, like Jokic, Embiid and even Giannis or AD, and with Draymond mostly playing them, it will be hard for the Warriors with the small line up that they have right now.

They don't have the advantage on the speed, their best player is above 30++, no more young legs like Jordan Poole. But maybe they see something in Dwight that will not be perfect fit. Maybe Howard really lost some steps as he himself is also on the twilight of his career.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 22, 2023, 06:09:34 PM

You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Ah, crap. Looks like they will be staying with the small ball type of play. Well, it's their loss, and I doubt what they are saying about finding a big man later is true, it's just another statement to make it look like it's not Dwight Howard that they need.

The Damian Lillard saga: How things are shaping up and what factors are in play
https://sports.yahoo.com/the-damian-lillard-saga-how-things-are-shaping-up-and-what-factors-are-in-play-233718397.html
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If Portland Trail Blazers management cannot really find the right trade from the Miami Heat, they will need the help of another team to make a 3-way team deal or worse 4-way team deal which means shuffling all the players in the league to different teams.
And it looks like DeAndre Ayton is still not safe (after the Mavs and Suns disagreed) when that happens because he may become part of that huge deal as the Trail Blazers are still considering getting him.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 22, 2023, 06:09:34 PM

You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

I'm already expecting that. Not by the Golden State Warriors just want to give a chance for Dwight Howard or offer him a veteran contract, but simply, they don't need him as part of the roster as they always have a flexible roster since then with no big man on the lineup. I also doubt that even the Warriors will sign him, he will just be a bench warmer and mostly do clapping around on the bench.

The Golden State Warriors have built by small lineup since then. Instead of giving their strength to the paint, they focused more on the outside shooting that's why they don't need a big man on their lineup. On the defensive end, it's not also a problem not having a big man as NBA today isn't that fully dominated by big man nowadays.

Dwight Howard should just enjoy being an import of the outside league and enjoy good money flowing to him before retiring.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 22, 2023, 06:09:34 PM

You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

Man, that’s a bummer. I wonder what went wrong. It seemed like a done deal. Those reports seem like they’re from accurate sources though. Dwight Howard seemed like a perfect fit for them. He must either still be a chaotic individual off the court, or old age has come at him fast. He was just winning a championship ring 3 years ago.

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You want news everyone about Dwight Howard's development together with the Golde State Warriors? Here's what we've got.

Warriors Will Not Sign Dwight Howard After Two-Day Visit, per Report

Warriors pass on signing Dwight Howard to maintain roster flexibility, per report

Many thought that it's like 99% of him signing on the current roster of the Warriors but then, that little percentage of failing prevailed.

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Quote from: blockman on September 22, 2023, 11:07:52 AM

At the end of the day even if Dame wants to go to Miami but if the management deals with other teams and he's willing to put there, he will just have to be obliged, right? Or he's got the right to decline that trade. Like for example this deal trade with the Bulls is agreed.

It seems that he is desperate to get out of the Blazers right now, that's how I see it, so maybe if his advisors or at least his agent will tell him to take that offer, and instead of him sitting this season as been reported, it's better for now to be traded somewhere else, but who knows.

Yeah, whatever comes that might be good for his desire to get out then just agreed with it. But he knows himself better and the team that he's in or wherever he's gonna be traded to.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 22, 2023, 03:19:54 PM

Yeah, most likely the Warriors will have to help Dwight with his conditioning, and for sure they have the right people to do that. They have superstars that is also ageing, so maybe they have a good program or at least put one for Dwight if they will get him for this season.

They likely have it. They've taken CP3 and now they're gonna have Dwight Howard on their wings and that's why they must be cooking something that's gonna work for them. I just hope that this isn't like the other teams that's super hyped before but became a lackluster during the actual season.

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I do understand why Dame would want out of Portland, they are not really doing all that great and it would make sense to see him leave, but I do not understand why Lavine would want to leave, they do have a good core there and could do fine. If Lavine leaves, with Dame at the helm along with Derozan, that team could be a very good team. Lavine would just be a tank commander at that point and leave after his contract is up, so its not really a good trade for him. I still think that Dame and Blazers could just come to an agreement to cancel the contract, its allowed, they do not have to pay him if he agrees, and then Dame can go wherever he wants but take a pay cut instead. Not many teams or players do that, I think it should be considered.

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We've got some rumors again that came out related to Damian Lillard and it's another team that's interested to trade him. It is the Chicago Bulls that are interested in acquiring Damian Lillard. What do you think about this? The article says that they're likely to trade LaVine for Lillard.
(https://fadeawayworld.net/chicago-bulls-interested-damian-lillard-trade)

I think before this news came out, there were was a rumor last year specially on how the Bulls was not able to get over the first round of playoffs, despite having a good tandem in Lavine and DeRozan, that Lavine is not happy and so he might want a trade.

But in this case, Damian Lillard said he wants Miami his as his preferred destination though. And not sure if Portland is willing to have a 1:1 trade here or if Lavine also wanted to be with Portland.

At the end of the day even if Dame wants to go to Miami but if the management deals with other teams and he's willing to put there, he will just have to be obliged, right? Or he's got the right to decline that trade. Like for example this deal trade with the Bulls is agreed.

It seems that he is desperate to get out of the Blazers right now, that's how I see it, so maybe if his advisors or at least his agent will tell him to take that offer, and instead of him sitting this season as been reported, it's better for now to be traded somewhere else, but who knows.

Yeah, most likely the Warriors will have to help Dwight with his conditioning, and for sure they have the right people to do that. They have superstars that is also ageing, so maybe they have a good program or at least put one for Dwight if they will get him for this season.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 22, 2023, 12:27:35 AM

I guess it's hard to find pieces for the other team to trade for a veteran superstar who most likely not going to make any difference if not being surrounded by another star or an excellent role players. Can't deny that Dame is not capable of leading a team to a championship, he'd be a great addition to any team who's already built to compete in the playoffs.
It's just ridiculous to think that some veteran superstars are now desperate to have a ring, bad thing is they'll create a drama to make their way out of their respective organisations lol.

I am not entirely sure if it was all about his issues or anything but if he had any issues at locker room, that is still a valid reason not to get him as well. Doesn't matter if he was an "elite" player, to be fair at that age I highly doubt that he could be elite, I watched his last season at NBA and he was nowhere near elite, but he was basically carrying some minutes so that the real center would relax.

However, if he was only let go and couldn't find a place in the NBA because of his personality or anything like that, then I am guessing that he is not going to end up with anything that would be any different here as well. What if he has some sort of locker room issues and ruins something perfectly running so far.

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Quote from: Distinctin on September 22, 2023, 09:40:56 AM

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Looking at the pictures of yesterday’s workout with the Warriors, it appears like they are are more concerned with Dwight Howard’s conditioning than his basketball skills. I think this is a good sign that he will be a Warrior next season. Usually during these workouts you see a lot of basketball drills and less conditioning workouts. Unless Dwight did something inappropriate yesterday (entirely possible) I think we’ll see a deal announced soon.

The skills are definitely there; he was a superstar during his prime. But he is aging now, already 37 years old, so he is not the same player anymore. However, if the team knows how to utilize him, he could be a significant factor for the team. His wide body could be very useful for Curry in setting screens, and he can also be physical inside in grabbing rebounds. In addition, CP3 would make him even better, so he better be in peak condition, as he might be the key to the Warriors' success this season.

@OgNasty I mean he is 37 years old. So people are definitely going to be worried about his conditioning. At the same time, basketball skills are also very important. Basketball skills are actually more important I will say. But both skills go hand-in-hand. One is pretty much useless without the other. Especially when we are talking about playing basketball. He was definitely a great player during his prime. But at this age, they are definitely not going to expect that kind of performance from him. If he is able to provide what they are expecting from him, I don’t think there will be any problems.

And I agree with @Distinctin that for him to be useful for the team, he will have to be in great physical condition.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 21, 2023, 03:05:15 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 21, 2023, 12:24:00 PM

We've got some rumors again that came out related to Damian Lillard and it's another team that's interested to trade him. It is the Chicago Bulls that are interested in acquiring Damian Lillard. What do you think about this? The article says that they're likely to trade LaVine for Lillard.
(https://fadeawayworld.net/chicago-bulls-interested-damian-lillard-trade)

I think before this news came out, there were was a rumor last year specially on how the Bulls was not able to get over the first round of playoffs, despite having a good tandem in Lavine and DeRozan, that Lavine is not happy and so he might want a trade.

But in this case, Damian Lillard said he wants Miami his as his preferred destination though. And not sure if Portland is willing to have a 1:1 trade here or if Lavine also wanted to be with Portland.

At the end of the day even if Dame wants to go to Miami but if the management deals with other teams and he's willing to put there, he will just have to be obliged, right? Or he's got the right to decline that trade. Like for example this deal trade with the Bulls is agreed.

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Quote from: blockman on September 21, 2023, 12:24:00 PM

We've got some rumors again that came out related to Damian Lillard and it's another team that's interested to trade him. It is the Chicago Bulls that are interested in acquiring Damian Lillard. What do you think about this? The article says that they're likely to trade LaVine for Lillard.
(https://fadeawayworld.net/chicago-bulls-interested-damian-lillard-trade)

I would say the Blazers will reject all of the Bulls' offer for sure.
The Heat has better assets compare to the Bulls, and yet they didn't make a deal with them. What are the assets Chicago has? Lavine? Hardly an all-star caliber anymore. Vucevic? Who will be their center if they will trade him? After those 2, they don't have any attractive assets anymore that will make the Blazers trade Dame. Overall, I would say Miami would be a better team for Dame than Chicago.

They might not have that much but some support players could also be dealt with upon for this trade if ever this happens. But again, this is just a rumor and we'll never know until a deal settles if it's with Miami or Bulls or any other interested team.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 22, 2023, 09:35:08 AM

But it could be that Phoenix is looking for something that values more. I just checked Ayton's contract and he is paid an average of around $33 million. Jusuf Nurkic has lower but nearly the same output as Ayton and is only paid an average of around $16 million yearly.

So, if the trade were to happen, it should involve Nurkic and a bunch of players in exchange for Ayton, right? Well, that seems fair, but personally, I'm more concerned about Nurkic's health as he seems to be injury-prone already compared to Ayton. Also, I've seen him in the playoffs, like when the Blazers were playing against the Nuggets, and it's evident that he couldn't effectively stop Jokic. So, in terms of defense and maturity in the game, I would lean towards Ayton. But I understand that teams involved in a possible trade look at how valuable the players they acquire will be, and they wouldn't agree to it if they didn't see benefits. At this moment, I would say it's a crucial decision.

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