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September 25, 2023, 06:30:38 PM
Are you guys excited? 10 more days and the pre-season will start. October 5. Dallas Mavericks will play against Minnesota Timberwolves in Abu Dhabi, UAE. Then on October 10, the Dallas Mavericks will fly to Madrid, Spain to play against the EuroLeague champions Real Madrid.

During the season, there will be 2 more games that will be played in different places and that is the Atlanta Hawks versus Orlando Magic, on November 9 in Mexico City, Mexico, and the Brooklyn Nets versus Cleveland Cavaliers, on January 11 in Paris, France.

Season openers are kind of intriguing. LA Lakers versus Denver Nuggets - teams who played the Western Conference Finals Golden State Warriors versus Phoenix Suns - CP3 meeting his former team and so is KD meeting his champion buddies. Do you think it will get physical?  Grin We know Booker has some heat against Klay Thompson and Steph Curry and now they are teammates with his former partner.

Yes of course. Also those gamblers who only bet on NBA games are excited to both gamble and watch the NBA. Not just the gamblers; real fans also who support their teams.

I don't know how the season opening schedule is made but yes the season opener to be quite interesting. I love the way they organized or made it. There will be a physical game for sure due to the issue you mentioned. Another question is who's your pick in this game? Me: I'm going for the Denver Nuggets, given their home court advantage and the fact that they are the defending champions!

As for the Suns vs. Warriors game I'm picking the Suns even though it's on the Warriors' home court. The Suns have a solid roster this season unlike last season when they had CP3. I know CP3 was the main reason they didn't make the playoffs so it's a good thing he's no longer with the Suns.
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September 25, 2023, 06:14:07 PM
Are you guys excited?

10 more days and the pre-season will start. October 5.
Dallas Mavericks will play against Minnesota Timberwolves in Abu Dhabi, UAE.
Then on October 10, the Dallas Mavericks will fly to Madrid, Spain to play against the EuroLeague champions Real Madrid.

During the season, there will be 2 more games that will be played in different places and that is the Atlanta Hawks versus Orlando Magic, on November 9 in Mexico City, Mexico, and the Brooklyn Nets versus Cleveland Cavaliers, on January 11 in Paris, France.
I'm more excited about the drama around James Harden, and Damian Lillard than these games. Tongue
Kidding aside, it's always good to see the NBA being back again. For sure fans are happy, bettors are happy, GM's are happy, and of course the players are happy as well because they're back into business again as usual. Anyway, I hope that the fans who will be able to watch these NBA teams playing in their country will be happy as well.

Season openers are kind of intriguing.
LA Lakers versus Denver Nuggets - teams who played the Western Conference Finals
Golden State Warriors versus Phoenix Suns - CP3 meeting his former team and so is KD meeting his champion buddies. Do you think it will get physical?  Grin We know Booker has some heat against Klay Thompson and Steph Curry and now they are teammates with his former partner.
Nothing intriguing, and nothing surprising with these games TBH since it has been announced. You know what I'm feeling right now? I'm happy. Cheesy

Happy not because of the Lakers-Nuggets match-up, but the Suns-Warriors match-up. TBH, I don't see any beef behind KD, and the rest of the Warriors unlike his beef with Russ when he went to the Warriors. I think everything is good between them since we didn't hear any trash talks whatsoever between the 2.

It's not KD, but it's Book, and Klay that has a beef with each other. Well, I will not be surprised if Klay will do that 1-2-3-4 count again on his finger saying that he got 4 titles while Book has none. Cheesy Bragging rights, eh. Cheesy As for KD, and Steph, I think they're in good terms, but correct me still. I expect a high scoring game on this one considering that both these 2 teams have the best shooters the league has right now.
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September 25, 2023, 04:32:43 PM
Pretty much the case with Carmelo as well, I mean we still wanted to see him play, he was given that chance by the Lakers, but it was obvious that he is no longer in his prime. And so as much as his mind wanted to play, his body is not cooperating.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. Perhaps the Warriors really didn't see him adding any value on a already experience team and he could be detrimental if he still had that attitude from time to time.
I never really thought that Melo was "bad" enough to waive though. I get that he is not in his prime, but you can't give him 10-15 even 20 minutes a game? Really? This dude is top 20 in the top scorers list, and he is getting the bare minimum you could pay to him, you think Lakers found someone that was better than Melo?

I have seen the season, they did not. If they kept him, nothing major would have changed and they would have done pretty much the same, have your starts, have your big names on the bench, but also have Melo do like 15 minutes a game off the bench as well and you would do fine. There would be garbage times when he would thrive as well. That would have been smarter, people should stop rejecting veterans with minimum wage.

Problem with old vets in the league is that you lock up money and a roster spot on someone who has a known ceiling in their game and likely going to get hurt somewhere during the year.  End of the bench guys and minimum wage guys ypu are looking for spark and energy off the bench.  I'm a Melo guy too I loved him in NY, in his prime his defense was suspect at the end of his career it was non existent.  If ypu can't play d you can't be on the court.
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September 25, 2023, 03:44:50 PM
Pretty much the case with Carmelo as well, I mean we still wanted to see him play, he was given that chance by the Lakers, but it was obvious that he is no longer in his prime. And so as much as his mind wanted to play, his body is not cooperating.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. Perhaps the Warriors really didn't see him adding any value on a already experience team and he could be detrimental if he still had that attitude from time to time.
I never really thought that Melo was "bad" enough to waive though. I get that he is not in his prime, but you can't give him 10-15 even 20 minutes a game? Really? This dude is top 20 in the top scorers list, and he is getting the bare minimum you could pay to him, you think Lakers found someone that was better than Melo?

I have seen the season, they did not. If they kept him, nothing major would have changed and they would have done pretty much the same, have your starts, have your big names on the bench, but also have Melo do like 15 minutes a game off the bench as well and you would do fine. There would be garbage times when he would thrive as well. That would have been smarter, people should stop rejecting veterans with minimum wage.
Perhaps it was his liability, he can't play defense, so although he can still play and give some points, teams didn't sign him for that reason, I reckon.

And yes, we are almost at the start of a new season, so for sure some of us could be very excited about it. As we can see our favorite teams and players and so we will begin to bet again.

For Dwight, it will be cooler if the Orlando Magic will get him and then retire his jersey, but it seems that it is not happening.  Cry
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September 25, 2023, 03:16:50 PM
Pretty much the case with Carmelo as well, I mean we still wanted to see him play, he was given that chance by the Lakers, but it was obvious that he is no longer in his prime. And so as much as his mind wanted to play, his body is not cooperating.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. Perhaps the Warriors really didn't see him adding any value on a already experience team and he could be detrimental if he still had that attitude from time to time.
I never really thought that Melo was "bad" enough to waive though. I get that he is not in his prime, but you can't give him 10-15 even 20 minutes a game? Really? This dude is top 20 in the top scorers list, and he is getting the bare minimum you could pay to him, you think Lakers found someone that was better than Melo?

I have seen the season, they did not. If they kept him, nothing major would have changed and they would have done pretty much the same, have your starts, have your big names on the bench, but also have Melo do like 15 minutes a game off the bench as well and you would do fine. There would be garbage times when he would thrive as well. That would have been smarter, people should stop rejecting veterans with minimum wage.
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September 25, 2023, 10:24:59 AM
Are you guys excited?

10 more days and the pre-season will start. October 5.
Dallas Mavericks will play against Minnesota Timberwolves in Abu Dhabi, UAE.
Then on October 10, the Dallas Mavericks will fly to Madrid, Spain to play against the EuroLeague champions Real Madrid.
I didn't noticed that we've got a few days left for the pre season. Well, anyway this is just like a show match before the actual season starts.

And with Mavs, they seem to have a full load on their schedule and flying from country to country and that's an exciting match they will have against Real Madrid.
Same here, I didn't notice that the preseason will commence soon. This is good, though, because soon the regular season will start. We are going to see if the Nuggets will be able to defend their title and how the teams will perform, especially the Warriors and Suns, who made some significant changes to their roster.
Nuggets seems to be consistent for many years now with Jokic and I think that this time, they're being prepared by most teams so let's see if they'll have hard time or it will be like another easy finals to them.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. P
He is still able to bring numbers in terms of tickets sales and that's what his team should be thankful about as that makes his talent fee there worth it for them.

That's probably it, as at his age, it's not likely he would bring a championship to a certain team. In fact, I've seen some highlights in the same league where other bigs from opposing teams have given Howard a major problem.
He's still a good addition like a reserve player and when he's needed, he's always there. We still can't move on with the possibility of Howard going with the GSW.

But maybe in the next days, we'll see a team willing to put and sign him on roster.
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September 25, 2023, 07:48:59 AM
Are you guys excited?

10 more days and the pre-season will start. October 5.
Dallas Mavericks will play against Minnesota Timberwolves in Abu Dhabi, UAE.
Then on October 10, the Dallas Mavericks will fly to Madrid, Spain to play against the EuroLeague champions Real Madrid.
I didn't noticed that we've got a few days left for the pre season. Well, anyway this is just like a show match before the actual season starts.

And with Mavs, they seem to have a full load on their schedule and flying from country to country and that's an exciting match they will have against Real Madrid.
Same here, I didn't notice that the preseason will commence soon. This is good, though, because soon the regular season will start. We are going to see if the Nuggets will be able to defend their title and how the teams will perform, especially the Warriors and Suns, who made some significant changes to their roster.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. P
He is still able to bring numbers in terms of tickets sales and that's what his team should be thankful about as that makes his talent fee there worth it for them.

That's probably it, as at his age, it's not likely he would bring a championship to a certain team. In fact, I've seen some highlights in the same league where other bigs from opposing teams have given Howard a major problem.
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September 25, 2023, 07:37:08 AM
Are you guys excited?

10 more days and the pre-season will start. October 5.
Dallas Mavericks will play against Minnesota Timberwolves in Abu Dhabi, UAE.
Then on October 10, the Dallas Mavericks will fly to Madrid, Spain to play against the EuroLeague champions Real Madrid.
I didn't noticed that we've got a few days left for the pre season. Well, anyway this is just like a show match before the actual season starts.

And with Mavs, they seem to have a full load on their schedule and flying from country to country and that's an exciting match they will have against Real Madrid.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. P
He is still able to bring numbers in terms of tickets sales and that's what his team should be thankful about as that makes his talent fee there worth it for them.
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September 25, 2023, 07:31:02 AM
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I hope there's someone here who can share Howard's stats on his team in Taiwan. When looking at his stats from his last NBA team, they dropped significantly, with averages of only 5.9 rebounds and 6.2 PPG in an average playing time of 16.2 minutes. Perhaps these numbers may be significant for other teams, but the Lakers didn't see them as significant, which is why he was let go despite his significant contributions in helping the Lakers win a championship.
2022-2023 season https://basketball.asia-basket.com/player/Dwight-Howard/63735

23.2 points
34.9 minutes
20 games

It's like he's back to his former self but we know the competition in Taiwan is not the same in the NBA. If he had played in major tournaments in Europe and still put up those numbers then teams would likely be more interested in bringing him back.

Those are good numbers if it's in the NBA, but the fact that he is the import, he has the freedom to do what he wants, and his minutes are high. Maybe if those stats were achieved in a European league, that would be more impressive, but in Asia, not so much, I think. Nevertheless, it still tells us that Howard is not done yet. He may be out of his prime, but he can still be a valuable asset for a team. So, I really want to see him back in the NBA, even if it's not with the Warriors.



Season openers are kind of intriguing.
LA Lakers versus Denver Nuggets - teams who played the Western Conference Finals


It would be interesting if it's a regular season, but it's just a preseason, most likely star players won't play, or will only have limited minutes.

But I'm still excited though.  Smiley
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September 25, 2023, 07:28:35 AM
Are you guys excited?

10 more days and the pre-season will start. October 5.
Dallas Mavericks will play against Minnesota Timberwolves in Abu Dhabi, UAE.
Then on October 10, the Dallas Mavericks will fly to Madrid, Spain to play against the EuroLeague champions Real Madrid.

During the season, there will be 2 more games that will be played in different places and that is the Atlanta Hawks versus Orlando Magic, on November 9 in Mexico City, Mexico, and the Brooklyn Nets versus Cleveland Cavaliers, on January 11 in Paris, France.

Season openers are kind of intriguing.
LA Lakers versus Denver Nuggets - teams who played the Western Conference Finals
Golden State Warriors versus Phoenix Suns - CP3 meeting his former team and so is KD meeting his champion buddies. Do you think it will get physical?  Grin We know Booker has some heat against Klay Thompson and Steph Curry and now they are teammates with his former partner.
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September 25, 2023, 06:59:50 AM

I hope there's someone here who can share Howard's stats on his team in Taiwan.

You can see his stats here ; https://basketball.asia-basket.com/player/Dwight-Howard/63735
As per his stats, you can see he has an impressive stats for an import, however, his team isn't that good, so his impact is not that big.

Also, he has some achievement in the ALL star in the same league.

Dwight Howard becomes the MVP of Taiwan All-Star Game

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Dwight Howard scored 37 points, grabbed 13 rebounds, and dished out 8 assists to lead Team Infinity to an easy 179-124 win in the Taiwanese All-Star Game.
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I hope there's someone here who can share Howard's stats on his team in Taiwan. When looking at his stats from his last NBA team, they dropped significantly, with averages of only 5.9 rebounds and 6.2 PPG in an average playing time of 16.2 minutes. Perhaps these numbers may be significant for other teams, but the Lakers didn't see them as significant, which is why he was let go despite his significant contributions in helping the Lakers win a championship.
2022-2023 season https://basketball.asia-basket.com/player/Dwight-Howard/63735

23.2 points
34.9 minutes
20 games

It's like he's back to his former self but we know the competition in Taiwan is not the same in the NBA. If he had played in major tournaments in Europe and still put up those numbers then teams would likely be more interested in bringing him back.
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September 25, 2023, 06:35:33 AM

Wow that's pretty cool you saw him play in Taiwan?  Did you see any other former NBA players when you went to watch? We rarely hear about where x-NBA players go to play after the NBA.  I honestly had no idea that he was playing Taiwan.  Every once in a while I hear about an x-NBA player playing overseas and always suprised about it. 

I bet he wat still fun to watch no?
Dwight has a lot of memes on twitter about him playing in Taiwan during the last Playoffs since he is the only one that stop Joker during his time on Lakers before while Nuggets dominates Lakers on the last playoff with no one can guard Jokic.

He is having the best time of his career on Taiwan since he dominates the game there. I think is he the only popular NBA player playing in Taiwanand the rest is on China and other lower asia league.

I think you are right I'm not sure if there is any other big time players playing over there right now.  Honestly I haven't even been watching, what was his stats while he was over there?  I can't see him not dominating the paint in that league.  I don't have hate against the guy it's just he is a 37 year old big man who bangs down low.  His carrier is pretty much done at this point.

Pretty much the case with Carmelo as well, I mean we still wanted to see him play, he was given that chance by the Lakers, but it was obvious that he is no longer in his prime. And so as much as his mind wanted to play, his body is not cooperating.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. Perhaps the Warriors really didn't see him adding any value on a already experience team and he could be detrimental if he still had that attitude from time to time.

I hope there's someone here who can share Howard's stats on his team in Taiwan. When looking at his stats from his last NBA team, they dropped significantly, with averages of only 5.9 rebounds and 6.2 PPG in an average playing time of 16.2 minutes. Perhaps these numbers may be significant for other teams, but the Lakers didn't see them as significant, which is why he was let go despite his significant contributions in helping the Lakers win a championship.
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September 25, 2023, 05:02:07 AM

Wow that's pretty cool you saw him play in Taiwan?  Did you see any other former NBA players when you went to watch? We rarely hear about where x-NBA players go to play after the NBA.  I honestly had no idea that he was playing Taiwan.  Every once in a while I hear about an x-NBA player playing overseas and always suprised about it. 

I bet he wat still fun to watch no?
Dwight has a lot of memes on twitter about him playing in Taiwan during the last Playoffs since he is the only one that stop Joker during his time on Lakers before while Nuggets dominates Lakers on the last playoff with no one can guard Jokic.

He is having the best time of his career on Taiwan since he dominates the game there. I think is he the only popular NBA player playing in Taiwanand the rest is on China and other lower asia league.

I think you are right I'm not sure if there is any other big time players playing over there right now.  Honestly I haven't even been watching, what was his stats while he was over there?  I can't see him not dominating the paint in that league.  I don't have hate against the guy it's just he is a 37 year old big man who bangs down low.  His carrier is pretty much done at this point.

Pretty much the case with Carmelo as well, I mean we still wanted to see him play, he was given that chance by the Lakers, but it was obvious that he is no longer in his prime. And so as much as his mind wanted to play, his body is not cooperating.

And with the case of Howard, he had a good time in Taiwan, numbers are good and yet his team failed. Perhaps the Warriors really didn't see him adding any value on a already experience team and he could be detrimental if he still had that attitude from time to time.
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September 25, 2023, 12:59:53 AM

Wow that's pretty cool you saw him play in Taiwan?  Did you see any other former NBA players when you went to watch? We rarely hear about where x-NBA players go to play after the NBA.  I honestly had no idea that he was playing Taiwan.  Every once in a while I hear about an x-NBA player playing overseas and always suprised about it. 

I bet he wat still fun to watch no?
Dwight has a lot of memes on twitter about him playing in Taiwan during the last Playoffs since he is the only one that stop Joker during his time on Lakers before while Nuggets dominates Lakers on the last playoff with no one can guard Jokic.

He is having the best time of his career on Taiwan since he dominates the game there. I think is he the only popular NBA player playing in Taiwanand the rest is on China and other lower asia league.

Basically, it was him and McGee who was giving Jokic a hard time defensively. So, there's a little honesty there, but undeniably he's been way out of his prime already during that time.
I guess one of the reason why he's struggling to get a contract from any NBA teams is because of his silly attitude and low basketball IQ. Look at how he played in Taiwan, he has been dominating in every category from the stat sheets, but his team finished last and missed the playoffs. That's because he was not playing the way he should to compliment the role of his teammates. Crazy, how he has been shooting a lot of 3s in Taiwan. He clearly doesn't want his team to win, but he only he cares about his stats and playing basketball purely for fun lol.

https://basketnews.com/news-188223-dwight-howards-taiwanese-team-finishes-the-regular-season-dead-last.html#:~:text=Even%20though%20Howard%20has%20been,not%20participate%20in%20the%20playoffs.
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September 24, 2023, 11:15:46 PM

Wow that's pretty cool you saw him play in Taiwan?  Did you see any other former NBA players when you went to watch? We rarely hear about where x-NBA players go to play after the NBA.  I honestly had no idea that he was playing Taiwan.  Every once in a while I hear about an x-NBA player playing overseas and always suprised about it. 

I bet he wat still fun to watch no?
Dwight has a lot of memes on twitter about him playing in Taiwan during the last Playoffs since he is the only one that stop Joker during his time on Lakers before while Nuggets dominates Lakers on the last playoff with no one can guard Jokic.

He is having the best time of his career on Taiwan since he dominates the game there. I think is he the only popular NBA player playing in Taiwanand the rest is on China and other lower asia league.

For sure he is enjoying his stint in Taiwan, he even won the MVP during the All-Star game there, with a huge 37 points, 13 rebounds, and dished out 8 assists. But I guess the ultimate goal of Howard is to return to NBA.

And he really did to play, as he had problems with his Taiwan team as they are offering like a pay-cut for him. So most likely he will not be going to play for next season. Unless he opted to go to Europe League to test his skills there.
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September 24, 2023, 06:19:31 PM
In this situation, the management is at a disadvantage because if they oblige Lillard to play and he does play, they will have to pay him his salary. However, the question remains: will Lillard still perform at the same level as he did before he demanded to be traded?

In the first place, who's the one to blame at the start? It's not new that Lillard always hoped that the team would try to improve every next season and he's vocal about that every time especially when the Blazers are being eliminated in the playoffs. The Blazers failed to surround Lillard a good role player and in fact, they aren't even making some effort to land a big fish either on trade or in the free agency.
100% true.
It's the Trail Blazers management that should be blamed here in the first place. Damian got old without even having a good team. When I say team, someone he could trust if he cannot score the ball. CJ McCollum was there, but who's next? It became easier for other teams to defend the Trail Blazers and there's just one defensive play, stop Damian Lillard. Now that he is asking for a trade, I think they should make something happen because that guy will not play like he has a goal anymore if he is just being forced to play for them.

If not, then the Trail Blazers will risk losing fans, viewership, and revenue. That's the bigger picture I see if they continue to force Lillard to play.

Generally, the home crowd is not just watching the home team literally why they paid for their tickets. If the home team is up against a top team with popular NBA players on board, expect that these people will pay for a ticket. However, expect that most games of the home team will have noticeably less audience if their record is at worst.
Yeah. I'd agree with that. That's why their management should come up with something to release him or make another move. Maybe he will still change his mind if they recruit one more good player to back him up. But the big question is who? I don't think there's anyone available out there anymore. It's too late. I don't think they will take James Harden too. Damn, their team will be filled with guards and less big men.
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September 24, 2023, 05:58:04 PM

I mean it's at the Blazers expense but letting players dictate what they want and when they want it after signing a deal is a bad precedence.  This only encourages other stars to behave like this when you don't get what you want.  If I was the Blazers I'd play this game of chicken.  The flip side is they can flip Dame into a bunch of young pieces to go with Simmons, Sharpe and scoot and build for the future. 

This is what they've got letting those star players do what they want when they are popular and become stars in the team, it's become a norm now because they are afraid to lose the money they paid when they don't agree with their star players as long as it makes sense what they are doing. but the problem is, that they are being taken advantage of due to the fact that they can't really do anything about those players. there should be a lifetime ban concerning these types of acts in order for players not to cause the same problems again.
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In this situation, the management is at a disadvantage because if they oblige Lillard to play and he does play, they will have to pay him his salary. However, the question remains: will Lillard still perform at the same level as he did before he demanded to be traded?

In the first place, who's the one to blame at the start? It's not new that Lillard always hoped that the team would try to improve every next season and he's vocal about that every time especially when the Blazers are being eliminated in the playoffs. The Blazers failed to surround Lillard a good role player and in fact, they aren't even making some effort to land a big fish either on trade or in the free agency.

If not, then the Trail Blazers will risk losing fans, viewership, and revenue. That's the bigger picture I see if they continue to force Lillard to play.

Generally, the home crowd is not just watching the home team literally why they paid for their tickets. If the home team is up against a top team with popular NBA players on board, expect that these people will pay for a ticket. However, expect that most games of the home team will have noticeably less audience if their record is at worst.
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September 24, 2023, 04:56:02 PM

Wow that's pretty cool you saw him play in Taiwan?  Did you see any other former NBA players when you went to watch? We rarely hear about where x-NBA players go to play after the NBA.  I honestly had no idea that he was playing Taiwan.  Every once in a while I hear about an x-NBA player playing overseas and always suprised about it. 

I bet he wat still fun to watch no?
Dwight has a lot of memes on twitter about him playing in Taiwan during the last Playoffs since he is the only one that stop Joker during his time on Lakers before while Nuggets dominates Lakers on the last playoff with no one can guard Jokic.

He is having the best time of his career on Taiwan since he dominates the game there. I think is he the only popular NBA player playing in Taiwanand the rest is on China and other lower asia league.

I think you are right I'm not sure if there is any other big time players playing over there right now.  Honestly I haven't even been watching, what was his stats while he was over there?  I can't see him not dominating the paint in that league.  I don't have hate against the guy it's just he is a 37 year old big man who bangs down low.  His carrier is pretty much done at this point.
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