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May 22, 2023, 08:52:26 PM

What an insane performance by LeBron James just in the first half, 31 Points on 11/13 FGA with a perfect 4/4 FGA at the rainbow area in 21 minutes of playing. The Lakers are also currently showing a good percentage in the 3-point area nailing 7 3's out of 11 attempts. On the other hand, Denver Nuggets are still finding their rhythm in the rainbow area and struggling to nail some of their shots (only nailed 8 3's out of 22 attempts).

Game 4 Halftime: Lakers 73 | Nuggets 58

For the Lakers:
- will LeBron James be able to continue his hot shooting streak in the second half?
- can the Lakers maintain their lead until the final buzzer?

For the Nuggets:
- will they be able to repeat a late rally again like what they did last game?
- will they be able to improve their worst shooting in the second half??
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May 22, 2023, 07:49:29 PM

When they're down by two, everyone expected by third game it will be theirs but we're all wrong with that expectation and that goes to show that we have the idea where this is going.

Because they are playing on their home court, it's expected that they will win. However, we are now in Game 4 where the Lakers are 0-3. Even if the Lakers win, it's challenging to defy history as no team has ever come back from a 0-3 deficit. Currently, they are leading and having a great start, but the question remains: Can it last?
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May 22, 2023, 06:05:21 PM
Heat just proven that ESPN's analytics is just another analytics but not the actuality of what can happen into the game and match ups.

Celtics has already gone even before this game started. It's like more of formality that they'll be seen on the game 4 and they should have just conceded to allow the win to Heat but I don't know if this is allowed as per NBA ruling.

I will also say that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalists.
You're not the only one that sees that, most of us have it in our minds that these two will be the ones playing the NBA finals.

No ypu can't just concede a game and in the world we live in if it was even remotely determined they threw the game it would cause an earthquake in sports.  Being down 0-3 is not optimal but why wouldn't you think they wouldn't try.  I means it's for the right to go to the finals.  I'm throwing money on the Celtics it's tough to get a straight sweep in the playoffs.
When their ego and morale is down and it's been seen like there's a hint that they just want to end it up. I thought that by just not showing up to the game and they'll just give the win to the opponent by default is like the quickest way to do it. But I get the point and this is pro-basketball and as long as there's a chance, it should be played.

@livingfree,
Actually, I was a little disappointed, to be honest with the performance that the Lakers have shown.
At the start, I really did not think that these two are actually going to be the finalist.
That's why I am genuinely a little surprised.
When they're down by two, everyone expected by third game it will be theirs but we're all wrong with that expectation and that goes to show that we have the idea where this is going.
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May 22, 2023, 05:35:13 PM
You could see the Celtics give up in that game vs the Heat. I think they lose the next one and call it a year. For some reason I haven’t counted the Lakers out yet, but after what I saw tonight the Celtics are as good as done for the year. Quite possible the Lakers only have one game left this year though so don’t miss it tomorrow.

They give up easily. I guess there's a problem within the team, and it's possible that their coach is not happy and is simply blaming the players. The Celtics were considered favorites after the Bucks were eliminated, but it seems like they won't be making a comeback to the NBA Finals this year. Both the Warriors and the Celtics are out, so let's hope that the teams playing in the NBA Finals will provide more entertaining games.

I'm speculating that it could be the Heat versus the Nuggets in the 2023 NBA Finals and the Nuggets will be a heavy favorite.
I am not sure as well what is the problem with the Celtics. I am sure the players are not lacking since they have played well in the first two games of the series. Maybe this is just the difference between the two coaches. This is just the first year of Joe Mazzulla coaching versus a veteran coach, Erik Spoelstra. I did not expect the Celtics to have this performance after a very exciting series they had against Philadelphia. Very uncharacteristic for the Celtics to lose this bad.

Anyway, stats will tell us that it will be the Nuggets vs the Heat in the Finals. I hope, Jimmy Butler still has a lot on his tank because the Nuggets will be a huge undertaking. They are healthy and they have very strong bench players. I think if Bam and Jimmy will stay healthy, they can give a good fight, but it will still be Nugget's year.

Yeah and it's all their undrafted players again who really contribute in this big win, now they are comfortable at 3-0 and they will make in to the finals again in the last 3 years if I'm not mistaken.

This is what is great for this team. We should give credit to the coach for bringing out the best out of their undrafted players. They contributed a lot in getting the Heat this far in the playoffs. Key players are out because of injuries but the bench players are playing like they are an all-star.
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May 22, 2023, 05:13:45 PM
Miami Heat is leading by three nill right now. It really does not feel like Celtics will actually be able to recover.
Heat just proven that ESPN's analytics is just another analytics but not the actuality of what can happen into the game and match ups.

Celtics has already gone even before this game started. It's like more of formality that they'll be seen on the game 4 and they should have just conceded to allow the win to Heat but I don't know if this is allowed as per NBA ruling.

I will also say that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalists.
You're not the only one that sees that, most of us have it in our minds that these two will be the ones playing the NBA finals.

No ypu can't just concede a game and in the world we live in if it was even remotely determined they threw the game it would cause an earthquake in sports.  Being down 0-3 is not optimal but why wouldn't you think they wouldn't try.  I means it's for the right to go to the finals.  I'm throwing money on the Celtics it's tough to get a straight sweep in the playoffs.

Sure you can, I see teams just saying "nah you guys got it" in conference championship series all the time Smiley

Really sucks that I got caught up in what I was watching on TV as well as paying attention to my fantasy baseball leagues and a really tight match yesterday (which of course I tied and didn't end up winning) and totally forgot to bet the Heat at +5.5, which was just a no brainer bet too.  Damnt!
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May 22, 2023, 05:02:43 PM
Anyway, there's a breaking news just now and it's Carmelo Anthony.

Former All-Star Carmelo Anthony announces his retirement

Another era has passed, rest and enjoy the retirement Melo. I still remember that time when he's struggling with his last seasons that no team wants to take him in.

Does anybody still remember this taunt by Al Horford? Now Butler did this in front of him, and Horford seems angry because of what Butler did to him. I did watch a video of the taunting, and I can't help myself not to laugh. Karma really strikes harder.
Jimmy is sending the message to Horford that you don't do this to them and as well as to MJ's son.  Grin
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May 22, 2023, 04:36:33 PM
Butler is wise. He just simply playing the game with a great wisdom, attacking the defense then throw the pass outside for an open
3-point shot, just so happens that each player is ready to take and got a decent percentage to hit it.

If there's no trust between Boston's players, then there's nothing they can do now to win these series, a big chance for Miami to advance just like
how the Nuggets are taking the charge.

Let see what will happen in their next game, if Miami will finish it at home or Boston will win and try to extend the games.
It's such a great story that he became like this. Back when he was at Bulls, he was consider a great defensive helper to Rose, and then he grew up to become one of the best players in the entire league, that's a great story to basically watch as he grows older.

He is playing so mature and he is doing all the right things, not just on the floor as a player but as a leader for that team as well. He became a person who could inspire his teammates, and lead them to victory all together as well. I believe the pieces they have is also very important, between lowry to adebayo to shooters and so forth, they built a team that would be going against anyone, not based on just talent, but they have right style of players in every position based on their gameplay.
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May 22, 2023, 04:02:53 PM
Miami Heat is leading by three nill right now. It really does not feel like Celtics will actually be able to recover.
Heat just proven that ESPN's analytics is just another analytics but not the actuality of what can happen into the game and match ups.
Celtics has already gone even before this game started. It's like more of formality that they'll be seen on the game 4 and they should have just conceded to allow the win to Heat but I don't know if this is allowed as per NBA ruling.
I will also say that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalists.
You're not the only one that sees that, most of us have it in our minds that these two will be the ones playing the NBA finals.
No ypu can't just concede a game and in the world we live in if it was even remotely determined they threw the game it would cause an earthquake in sports.  Being down 0-3 is not optimal but why wouldn't you think they wouldn't try.  I means it's for the right to go to the finals.  I'm throwing money on the Celtics it's tough to get a straight sweep in the playoffs.

@livingfree,
Actually, I was a little disappointed, to be honest with the performance that the Lakers have shown.
At the start, I really did not think that these two are actually going to be the finalist.
That's why I am genuinely a little surprised.

@wheelz1200,
I really don't think it is going to be a good idea. Celtics really look down and out.
It is not going to be a good idea to trust them right now. I did not think that Miami Heat is going to have such success.
But it seems like I was certainly wrong.
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May 22, 2023, 03:17:08 PM
Miami Heat is leading by three nill right now. It really does not feel like Celtics will actually be able to recover.
Heat just proven that ESPN's analytics is just another analytics but not the actuality of what can happen into the game and match ups.

Celtics has already gone even before this game started. It's like more of formality that they'll be seen on the game 4 and they should have just conceded to allow the win to Heat but I don't know if this is allowed as per NBA ruling.

I will also say that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalists.
You're not the only one that sees that, most of us have it in our minds that these two will be the ones playing the NBA finals.

No ypu can't just concede a game and in the world we live in if it was even remotely determined they threw the game it would cause an earthquake in sports.  Being down 0-3 is not optimal but why wouldn't you think they wouldn't try.  I means it's for the right to go to the finals.  I'm throwing money on the Celtics it's tough to get a straight sweep in the playoffs.
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May 22, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
You could see the Celtics give up in that game vs the Heat. I think they lose the next one and call it a year. For some reason I haven’t counted the Lakers out yet, but after what I saw tonight the Celtics are as good as done for the year. Quite possible the Lakers only have one game left this year though so don’t miss it tomorrow.

They give up easily. I guess there's a problem within the team, and it's possible that their coach is not happy and is simply blaming the players. The Celtics were considered favorites after the Bucks were eliminated, but it seems like they won't be making a comeback to the NBA Finals this year. Both the Warriors and the Celtics are out, so let's hope that the teams playing in the NBA Finals will provide more entertaining games.

I'm speculating that it could be the Heat versus the Nuggets in the 2023 NBA Finals and the Nuggets will be a heavy favorite.

Your prediction is actually not that far from happening because by the looks of it, it seems that the Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat will indeed win from their respective conferences and will face each other in the Finals as they both have a 3-0 standing which is quite an advantage and statistically, there's no team that has bounced back from having a 0-3 deficit. So it's kind of safe to assume the outcome already even if their series are not yet finished.
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May 22, 2023, 01:06:41 PM
Miami Heat is leading by three nill right now. It really does not feel like Celtics will actually be able to recover.
Heat just proven that ESPN's analytics is just another analytics but not the actuality of what can happen into the game and match ups.

Celtics has already gone even before this game started. It's like more of formality that they'll be seen on the game 4 and they should have just conceded to allow the win to Heat but I don't know if this is allowed as per NBA ruling.

I will also say that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalists.
You're not the only one that sees that, most of us have it in our minds that these two will be the ones playing the NBA finals.
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May 22, 2023, 12:55:20 PM
Let see what will happen in their next game, if Miami will finish it at home or Boston will win and try to extend the games.
In fact, the Heat and Nuggets could already be called the final series participants, as there hasn't been a single time in the history of the NBA when a team recovered from 0-3. So I think it makes sense for the Heat to win the series next game to celebrate the Eastern Conference champion ceremony at their home arena, while it makes sense for the Nuggets to extend it to game 5 to also celebrate the ceremony at their home arena.

Miami Heat is leading by three nill right now. It really does not feel like Celtics will actually be able to recover. I will also say that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalists. I don't see how it is going to be any different. As you said there has not been once in the history when any team has actually recovered from a 3-0 deficit, I really do not think that history is going to be made. I believe we all know that Miami Heat and Nuggets are going to be the finalist. And that is not going to change in my opinion.
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May 22, 2023, 12:50:31 PM
You could see the Celtics give up in that game vs the Heat. I think they lose the next one and call it a year. For some reason I haven’t counted the Lakers out yet, but after what I saw tonight the Celtics are as good as done for the year.
That's much like it is. They've already accepted that there's no way that they can beat the Heat for the next upcoming games and they'll just have to render that one last game for them. They've done enough and Heat is the better team than the team and on the other side, it was Denver that's the better team than the Lakers. It's okay to call it a day for this year and they'll just have to set themselves back and better for the next season, they've reached quite far on this season's journey unlike the other teams that haven't made it far, and those that have been eliminated too early.

Quite possible the Lakers only have one game left this year though so don’t miss it tomorrow.
The majority don't want to miss that possible last game for Lakers.
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May 22, 2023, 10:12:36 AM
Let see what will happen in their next game, if Miami will finish it at home or Boston will win and try to extend the games.

In fact, the Heat and Nuggets could already be called the final series participants, as there hasn't been a single time in the history of the NBA when a team recovered from 0-3. So I think it makes sense for the Heat to win the series next game to celebrate the Eastern Conference champion ceremony at their home arena, while it makes sense for the Nuggets to extend it to game 5 to also celebrate the ceremony at their home arena.
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May 22, 2023, 09:42:48 AM
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Business wise though, will it be one of the most watch finals in the NBA? Or will it be just a so-so numbers as both of this teams, I will say is not that well known? No offense to the fans of both team, the Heat at number 8 in the finals? no one is expecting it,
They're not the biggest franchise for sure so it's expected that the numbers would be lower compared to a Celtics-Lakers series. Maybe it will be a lot closer to the the Bucks-Suns Finals in 2021.

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Will be insane if the Heat went to win this season.
There's no doubt about that. They will eclipse a lot of previous championship teams IMO if they could actually pull it off. They're a good model on building a real team and not just putting superstars together.
Nuggets winning it all would also be insane.
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May 22, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
Down 30 points by the end of the third quarter - it would be insane if they can even come back from that even if Miami uses their bench players for the entire fourth quarter. Celtics should at least step up and cover those +10 handicap bets hehe. Scary to think that neither Jimmy nor Bam put up big numbers to have such a huge lead.

Yeah and it's all their undrafted players again who really contribute in this big win, now they are comfortable at 3-0 and they will make in to the finals again in the last 3 years if I'm not mistaken.

But they will have to face the Nuggets for this year. Business wise though, will it be one of the most watch finals in the NBA? Or will it be just a so-so numbers as both of this teams, I will say is not that well known? No offense to the fans of both team, the Heat at number 8 in the finals? no one is expecting it, in the beginning it was Boston, Bucks and Sixers as the favorite. Will be insane if the Heat went to win this season.

Yes, nobody expected that the Heat can actually achieve the place where they are now. At first, people are saying that they won't last long in the play-in but they did attain and clinch a seat towards the playoffs and honestly, I'm one of those because how can we expect from a team that just came from the play-in but the Heat and Lakers did a feat and recorded a history because they both survived the first round.

Now, it's the Miami Heat who will likely to survive the conference finals and will play in the Finals after a couple of years while the Lakers is already on the verge of getting swept in the Western Conference. Business wise, it's the Miami Heat who got a much larger fan base compared to the Nuggets but time will come that Nuggets will also earn its own large fan base not just in Denver but in others parts of the world as well.

Anyway, there's a breaking news just now and it's Carmelo Anthony.

Former All-Star Carmelo Anthony announces his retirement
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May 22, 2023, 07:13:24 AM
Those 3 undrafted players of the Heat are leading the way for them to get Game 3, and remain undefeated on their home this playoffs. Vincent, Strus, and Martin are combined for 57 points while Vincent got a career-high 29 points.
This is a slap against Celtics and we're now having that 99.9% of probability that it's going to be the Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat that will face each other in the NBA finals. The problem with Celtics is that they're not rotating a lot unlike what Heat is doing. It's like that there's this superstar and minimum player on the Celtic's side. But look at the ball rotation of what Heat does, anyone who's open from the outside, just shoot it and we trust you. That's what they're trying to say.


They are trying to go one-on-one; there's no great team chemistry on the team as they do not trust each other so much. They had a plan to double Butler, but Butler is a good passer and can easily spot an outside shooter. This is embarrassing as it's a blowout loss for the Celtics. In my opinion, they are already out as no team has come back from a 0-3 deficit in the history of the NBA.

The three-point shooting is the biggest factor in this loss by the Celtics. They shot 26%, while the Heat shot 54%.



Butler is wise. He just simply playing the game with a great wisdom, attacking the defense then throw the pass outside for an open
3-point shot, just so happens that each player is ready to take and got a decent percentage to hit it.

If there's no trust between Boston's players, then there's nothing they can do now to win these series, a big chance for Miami to advance just like
how the Nuggets are taking the charge.

Let see what will happen in their next game, if Miami will finish it at home or Boston will win and try to extend the games.
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May 22, 2023, 05:31:54 AM
Down 30 points by the end of the third quarter - it would be insane if they can even come back from that even if Miami uses their bench players for the entire fourth quarter. Celtics should at least step up and cover those +10 handicap bets hehe. Scary to think that neither Jimmy nor Bam put up big numbers to have such a huge lead.

Yeah and it's all their undrafted players again who really contribute in this big win, now they are comfortable at 3-0 and they will make in to the finals again in the last 3 years if I'm not mistaken.

But they will have to face the Nuggets for this year. Business wise though, will it be one of the most watch finals in the NBA? Or will it be just a so-so numbers as both of this teams, I will say is not that well known? No offense to the fans of both team, the Heat at number 8 in the finals? no one is expecting it, in the beginning it was Boston, Bucks and Sixers as the favorite. Will be insane if the Heat went to win this season.

This is clear now that Heat will be on finals since Celtics shows that they can't handle much pressure that's the reason they always get outscored by Butler and the rest of the gang.

Although they can reach to finals but the problem there on how they could defeat the Nuggets knowing that Jokic is solid inside the paint and I think Adebayo is not enough defender knowing that Nuggets star is also known to be a good passer. To many problem need to solve by heat especially their matchmaking since to many guys on Nuggets can give them big problems in terms of scoring and in defensive ends.
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May 22, 2023, 04:50:53 AM
Down 30 points by the end of the third quarter - it would be insane if they can even come back from that even if Miami uses their bench players for the entire fourth quarter. Celtics should at least step up and cover those +10 handicap bets hehe. Scary to think that neither Jimmy nor Bam put up big numbers to have such a huge lead.

Yeah and it's all their undrafted players again who really contribute in this big win, now they are comfortable at 3-0 and they will make in to the finals again in the last 3 years if I'm not mistaken.

But they will have to face the Nuggets for this year. Business wise though, will it be one of the most watch finals in the NBA? Or will it be just a so-so numbers as both of this teams, I will say is not that well known? No offense to the fans of both team, the Heat at number 8 in the finals? no one is expecting it, in the beginning it was Boston, Bucks and Sixers as the favorite. Will be insane if the Heat went to win this season.
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May 22, 2023, 04:46:41 AM
You could see the Celtics give up in that game vs the Heat. I think they lose the next one and call it a year. For some reason I haven’t counted the Lakers out yet, but after what I saw tonight the Celtics are as good as done for the year. Quite possible the Lakers only have one game left this year though so don’t miss it tomorrow.

The Heat clearly won easily in that game and they cannot be worried about the next one since they have full control of this one despite being the underdog before even game 1 has started by the analysts. Surely if the Nuggets will swift the Lakers tomorrow, the Heat will truly need to have a strong strategy on how to stop Jokic's feat, Murray, because they cannot afford to lose or give one easy win for them. I'm rooting for Heat not because they are my team but because I want to see and witnessed for the very first time in the history of the NBA, a play-in team won the NBA championship. it will surely boost the morale of the players next season because they know there is a chance to be like them.

The Heat has been the underdog since day 1 of the playoffs but they have showed exceptionally well and we have give credit to coach Spo. I think the belief the Heat management has put into his shoulder is really paying off as they are in the verge of going into the finals again after making it at the 8th spot for this year.

As for the Nuggets vs Lakers series, it might end on a sweep as well. They don't want to get the momentum to the Lakers although like the Heat they are in control of the series already, but no need to slack here.
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