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May 24, 2023, 07:04:30 AM

Do you guys think that Denver might be the strongest now knowing that they swept the Lakers?

I don't think so. Maybe they'll win the NBA Finals, but I believe they won't be able to dominate.

If we compare the journey of the Heat, assuming they'll advance, they have had tougher battles compared to the Denver Nuggets. So, although the betting lines guarantee that the Nuggets are the heavy favorites, I think Miami will be underrated, so I like to take their underdog odds.

This will likely reach a minimum of 6 games.

The only reason why Heat journey looks like more tougher than Nuggets because Miami is 8th seed while Nuggets is the top seed on the west that means Miami is the underdog while Nuggets is known strong. West team is much more stronger than East team. I doubt Heat can sweep Lakers with healthy LBJ and AD while Nuggets can beat those team that Heat beat on the East.

Nuggets shows how dominant they are from regular season to playoffs. If their record seems not appealing to you for categorizing them as dominant team then I don’t know what’s dominant team looks like in terms of records.

Nuggets has the most balance roster that even a super team got sweep.

Not really, even if we will based it on the championship odds before the playoffs, the top 2 teams belongs to the east which are the favorites to win.

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1. Boston Celtics: +550 2. Milwaukee Bucks: +600 3. Golden State Warriors: +650 4. Los Angeles Clippers: +700 5. Brooklyn Nets: +800 6. Phoenix Suns: +1000 7. Philadelphia 76ers: +1400 8. Los Angeles Lakers: +1800 9. Miami Heat: +1800 10. Denver Nuggets: +2000

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/nba-finals-odds-2022-23-season

So the Heat will liikely beat the top 2 if they'll be able to finish the Celtics in this series, beating the top 2 teams, I called that a tougher journey. And that betting odds are created by bookmakers who are experts on sports, so we cannot question that.
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May 24, 2023, 07:02:39 AM

They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.

That's what the Miami Heat need next game, they need a stoppage because they cannot afford to lose two straight games in this round they cannot afford to put their chance to get to the Finals on the like just because they were easily beat those Celtics guys in their first 3 games, Looks like the Celtics are not gonna give up either and obviously they will be a more intense game in their homecourt and the and will also be cheering loud for them to boost their hearts and hoping will probably be the first to survive a 3-0 deficit in NBA playoffs.

It's not certain that they will win the next game as the Celtics will surely play harder on their home court. However, in case Miami loses again, they need to treat Game 6 as if it were Game 7 because the pressure will be on them if they allow that to happen. Miami looked bad in that game, but they are still ahead 3-1 in the series, so there's no need to worry about their status. They just need to correct their mistakes, and they'll be fine.

In Game 5, I have a feeling that the Celtics will be heavily favored, so why not bet on the Heat to win the game? The moneyline odds would be attractive, similar to Game 1 and 2.

They will be the heavy favorite as it will be in their home court, the Boston Garden. But the question is that if they can still go and win the next game, at least that game so that they can force a game 6 and game 7 to boot because as I have said previously, no team has ever comeback from 3-0 deficit and win the series in a playoff.

And when we thought that the Heat will win and close out the show and put their showdown in the finals with the Nuggets, they still give a breathing room for the Celtics. But it will be a dog fight next game, for sure Jimmy Butler will take over or will Tatum lead the Celtics again, we will see.

The chance of winning is always possible as they will try it harder to extend the series. I'm also one of those fans who
believe that Heat will end this at home, but it didn't happen.

Boston manages to win and now they will again try for another one. As you mentioned, there's no team who manages to make a comeback from
3-0 deficit.

Let's see the fate of both teams now, one game away for Miami while Boston will try to win for another extension of the series.
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May 24, 2023, 06:39:35 AM

They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.

That's what the Miami Heat need next game, they need a stoppage because they cannot afford to lose two straight games in this round they cannot afford to put their chance to get to the Finals on the like just because they were easily beat those Celtics guys in their first 3 games, Looks like the Celtics are not gonna give up either and obviously they will be a more intense game in their homecourt and the and will also be cheering loud for them to boost their hearts and hoping will probably be the first to survive a 3-0 deficit in NBA playoffs.

It's not certain that they will win the next game as the Celtics will surely play harder on their home court. However, in case Miami loses again, they need to treat Game 6 as if it were Game 7 because the pressure will be on them if they allow that to happen. Miami looked bad in that game, but they are still ahead 3-1 in the series, so there's no need to worry about their status. They just need to correct their mistakes, and they'll be fine.

In Game 5, I have a feeling that the Celtics will be heavily favored, so why not bet on the Heat to win the game? The moneyline odds would be attractive, similar to Game 1 and 2.

They will be the heavy favorite as it will be in their home court, the Boston Garden. But the question is that if they can still go and win the next game, at least that game so that they can force a game 6 and game 7 to boot because as I have said previously, no team has ever comeback from 3-0 deficit and win the series in a playoff.

And when we thought that the Heat will win and close out the show and put their showdown in the finals with the Nuggets, they still give a breathing room for the Celtics. But it will be a dog fight next game, for sure Jimmy Butler will take over or will Tatum lead the Celtics again, we will see.
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May 24, 2023, 05:44:03 AM

They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.

That's what the Miami Heat need next game, they need a stoppage because they cannot afford to lose two straight games in this round they cannot afford to put their chance to get to the Finals on the like just because they were easily beat those Celtics guys in their first 3 games, Looks like the Celtics are not gonna give up either and obviously they will be a more intense game in their homecourt and the and will also be cheering loud for them to boost their hearts and hoping will probably be the first to survive a 3-0 deficit in NBA playoffs.

Celtics is on fire earlier and they connect to many shoots compare to Heat where they struggle to much to defend the shooters of Celtics. They need a huge adjustment because for sure Celtics will work hard to extend this series and they gain momentum as they win today's game against Heat.  If they want to defeat Celtics they need to be more aggressive inside the paint and double team Tatum and Brown when they touch the ball so that they can pressure those guys and cannot heat up the game.
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May 24, 2023, 05:36:33 AM

They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.

That's what the Miami Heat need next game, they need a stoppage because they cannot afford to lose two straight games in this round they cannot afford to put their chance to get to the Finals on the like just because they were easily beat those Celtics guys in their first 3 games, Looks like the Celtics are not gonna give up either and obviously they will be a more intense game in their homecourt and the and will also be cheering loud for them to boost their hearts and hoping will probably be the first to survive a 3-0 deficit in NBA playoffs.

It's not certain that they will win the next game as the Celtics will surely play harder on their home court. However, in case Miami loses again, they need to treat Game 6 as if it were Game 7 because the pressure will be on them if they allow that to happen. Miami looked bad in that game, but they are still ahead 3-1 in the series, so there's no need to worry about their status. They just need to correct their mistakes, and they'll be fine.

In Game 5, I have a feeling that the Celtics will be heavily favored, so why not bet on the Heat to win the game? The moneyline odds would be attractive, similar to Game 1 and 2.
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May 24, 2023, 05:04:35 AM

They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.

That's what the Miami Heat need next game, they need a stoppage because they cannot afford to lose two straight games in this round they cannot afford to put their chance to get to the Finals on the like just because they were easily beat those Celtics guys in their first 3 games, Looks like the Celtics are not gonna give up either and obviously they will be a more intense game in their homecourt and the and will also be cheering loud for them to boost their hearts and hoping will probably be the first to survive a 3-0 deficit in NBA playoffs.
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May 24, 2023, 04:08:24 AM
The Denver Nuggets just had the better team.  The Lakers had no answer for Jamal Murray or MPJ.  Not to mention the Lakers were a team thrown together at the last minute who barely played together while the Nuggets have been building their team for years.  I think if the Lakers had a healthy LeBron for an entire year and were able to address some of their weaknesses in the offseason, they could have a shot.  It'll be tough though with teams like Denver existing, who are still very young and could be a new dynasty.

There's no doubt the Nuggets are better than the Lakers, as they didn't even give them a chance to come back in that series. However, we should also give credit to the Lakers, as they've done surprisingly well this season, especially in the playoffs. Honestly, I think getting rid of Westbrook was a turning point for the Lakers because that's when they started to perform much better.

Yeah man I mean when your best player has been in the league for 20 years, and you still make your way to the conference finals, that's damn impressive.  I didn't expect them to take out the Golden State Warriors, even though I was certainly hoping that they would.

It was a positive year for them despite not making it on to the championships.  Hope Lebron comes back.  I think he will though.

Yes, I definitely agree. There might be a lot of people who don't like him and criticizes him for what he does, but fact is, there's nobody in the league or even in the history that played impressively for 20 years consecutively. Some would argue and some will not but LeBron James certainly deserved to have some credits because with his age, he was still able to give the team a heads up with AD's help towards the Western conference finals.

About his statement and rumors, I think he will rest for at least one season because I do recall that he got an injury before the post season commenced. He needed a surgery for that one to fix his foot but he intentionally delayed the surgery because his team badly needed him as that kind of surgery is a season ending injury.
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May 24, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

Do you guys think that Denver might be the strongest now knowing that they swept the Lakers?

I don't think so. Maybe they'll win the NBA Finals, but I believe they won't be able to dominate.

If we compare the journey of the Heat, assuming they'll advance, they have had tougher battles compared to the Denver Nuggets. So, although the betting lines guarantee that the Nuggets are the heavy favorites, I think Miami will be underrated, so I like to take their underdog odds.

This will likely reach a minimum of 6 games.

The only reason why Heat journey looks like more tougher than Nuggets because Miami is 8th seed while Nuggets is the top seed on the west that means Miami is the underdog while Nuggets is known strong. West team is much more stronger than East team. I doubt Heat can sweep Lakers with healthy LBJ and AD while Nuggets can beat those team that Heat beat on the East.

Nuggets shows how dominant they are from regular season to playoffs. If their record seems not appealing to you for categorizing them as dominant team then I don’t know what’s dominant team looks like in terms of records.

Nuggets has the most balance roster that even a super team got sweep.
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May 24, 2023, 03:21:43 AM

Do you guys think that Denver might be the strongest now knowing that they swept the Lakers?

I don't think so. Maybe they'll win the NBA Finals, but I believe they won't be able to dominate.

If we compare the journey of the Heat, assuming they'll advance, they have had tougher battles compared to the Denver Nuggets. So, although the betting lines guarantee that the Nuggets are the heavy favorites, I think Miami will be underrated, so I like to take their underdog odds.

This will likely reach a minimum of 6 games.
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May 24, 2023, 02:58:34 AM

There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
Celtics finally got a win, but there is no way they can win 4 in a row. All they did was delay the inevitable IMO. I was hoping we seen history though and both series finals ended with sweeps.

Maybe they want the fans to witness them losing the game at home, LOL. But it was a great effort by the Celtics. That was the team that had been dominating in the regular season. The ball movement was very well organized, and they showed trust in each other. Additionally, their defense was notable as the Heat struggled with their 3-point shooting, indicating that the Celtics were quick enough to prevent open shots for the shooters.
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May 24, 2023, 02:29:39 AM

There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
Celtics finally got a win, but there is no way they can win 4 in a row. All they did was delay the inevitable IMO. I was hoping we seen history though and both series finals ended with sweeps.
I was looking at that possibility as well, it's really something if that both happened. This means it could be a more epic NBA Finals if that happened but that didn't happen. Both teams would be fighting so much that they would be showing who's the real champs.



Do you guys think that Denver might be the strongest now knowing that they swept the Lakers?
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May 24, 2023, 01:19:29 AM

There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
Celtics finally got a win, but there is no way they can win 4 in a row. All they did was delay the inevitable IMO. I was hoping we seen history though and both series finals ended with sweeps.
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May 24, 2023, 12:40:06 AM

There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.


They will certainly make adjustments after being dominated in Game 4. It cannot happen again, especially on their home court. However, knowing the Heat, they are a good team on the road, as they won the first 2 games. So, the Celtics still need to continue playing with high intensity. At least the Celtics weren't swept, as it would be embarrassing for a team at the top to be swept. They might have a similar fate as the Bucks.
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May 23, 2023, 11:57:56 PM
Lebron James' cryptic message at the post-game interview is more on the trend than the game today.  Grin

Boston Celtics defeated the Miami Heat in Game 4. I think the Heat got relaxed. It was not the same energy as their last 3 games. The defense was not entirely there and their undrafted players are not as effective as in their past games. Boston Celtics on the other hand was locked in on both ends of the floor, with 8 steals and 8 blocks, 10 turnovers against 15 of Miami, their 3-pointers were sinking in, and Grant Williams was 4/6 from the distant range.
That's the best Celtics that I have seen in this entire series and Tatum also working on the 4th quarter.
There is only one way to defeat them again, Miami Heat must be back to being focused on their goal to reach the Finals, or else the Celtics might turn this around and make history by coming back from a 3-0 deficit.

Good game from the Celtics.
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May 23, 2023, 11:06:22 PM

It was a positive year for them despite not making it on to the championships.  Hope Lebron comes back.  I think he will though.

That's for sure. I think people are simply expecting too much from a team that hasn't been consistent in the regular season. The new additions came after Westbrook was traded, so they haven't had the opportunity to develop the chemistry necessary to win a championship. But, man, reaching the conference finals despite the odds is more than impressive; there isn't a word that adequately describes it.

LeBron haters will continue to hate, but the man is a legend, although he may not be considered the GOAT (Greatest of All Time) just yet.
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May 23, 2023, 08:02:28 PM
The Denver Nuggets just had the better team.  The Lakers had no answer for Jamal Murray or MPJ.  Not to mention the Lakers were a team thrown together at the last minute who barely played together while the Nuggets have been building their team for years.  I think if the Lakers had a healthy LeBron for an entire year and were able to address some of their weaknesses in the offseason, they could have a shot.  It'll be tough though with teams like Denver existing, who are still very young and could be a new dynasty.

There's no doubt the Nuggets are better than the Lakers, as they didn't even give them a chance to come back in that series. However, we should also give credit to the Lakers, as they've done surprisingly well this season, especially in the playoffs. Honestly, I think getting rid of Westbrook was a turning point for the Lakers because that's when they started to perform much better.

Yeah man I mean when your best player has been in the league for 20 years, and you still make your way to the conference finals, that's damn impressive.  I didn't expect them to take out the Golden State Warriors, even though I was certainly hoping that they would.

It was a positive year for them despite not making it on to the championships.  Hope Lebron comes back.  I think he will though.
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May 23, 2023, 07:06:01 PM
well, I already commented here that I didn't understand why they were putting the lakers as favorites in this game when it just didn't make much sense to me since the Nuggets proved to be much superior to the lakers in every game and history shows that in this type of situation is irreversible, so lakers players would not come to this game hoping to win to reverse this whole situation, at most they would come to play to comply with the schedule and also avoid humiliating defeat and also all lakers players would probably be more worried getting out of the game without injuries and thinking about the next season because everything was already decided

As for today's heat game against the celtics and the same situation as the lakers, I don't believe that the celtics will be able to reverse this whole situation and it's funny that in this game the heat is the favorite and the bookmakers are right, the heat clearly have an irreversible advantage, they will be playing at home and motivated, so all the celtics can do is avoid having the same humiliating defeat they had in the last game, so they will do everything so that they don't lose by a big difference of points , the odds for this game are good, the heat has an odd of @1.84 in case of victory, I am considering betting on the heat to win the game

It's because they are still in their homecourt, so bookies might think that it's a advantage. And it really affect how the players play on their homecourt. We've seen that the Lakers blew away Memphis and GSW at Crypto.com in their series.

But it's a different Nuggets team, Murray is healthy, Jokic is putting great numbers and the whole team is playing good defense.

Same with the Heat vs Celtics, the Heat is the favorite because they are going to play at home and they just defeated Boston Celtics with a huge numbers in game 3 as well.
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May 23, 2023, 06:12:04 PM
The Denver Nuggets just had the better team.  The Lakers had no answer for Jamal Murray or MPJ.  Not to mention the Lakers were a team thrown together at the last minute who barely played together while the Nuggets have been building their team for years.  I think if the Lakers had a healthy LeBron for an entire year and were able to address some of their weaknesses in the offseason, they could have a shot.  It'll be tough though with teams like Denver existing, who are still very young and could be a new dynasty.

There's no doubt the Nuggets are better than the Lakers, as they didn't even give them a chance to come back in that series. However, we should also give credit to the Lakers, as they've done surprisingly well this season, especially in the playoffs. Honestly, I think getting rid of Westbrook was a turning point for the Lakers because that's when they started to perform much better.
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May 23, 2023, 05:09:10 PM
well, I already commented here that I didn't understand why they were putting the lakers as favorites in this game when it just didn't make much sense to me since the Nuggets proved to be much superior to the lakers in every game and history shows that in this type of situation is irreversible, so lakers players would not come to this game hoping to win to reverse this whole situation, at most they would come to play to comply with the schedule and also avoid humiliating defeat and also all lakers players would probably be more worried getting out of the game without injuries and thinking about the next season because everything was already decided

As for today's heat game against the celtics and the same situation as the lakers, I don't believe that the celtics will be able to reverse this whole situation and it's funny that in this game the heat is the favorite and the bookmakers are right, the heat clearly have an irreversible advantage, they will be playing at home and motivated, so all the celtics can do is avoid having the same humiliating defeat they had in the last game, so they will do everything so that they don't lose by a big difference of points , the odds for this game are good, the heat has an odd of @1.84 in case of victory, I am considering betting on the heat to win the game
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May 23, 2023, 04:43:50 PM
Nuggets vs Heat is a great finals matchup, they fit each other so well too. Lowry could defend Murray, but I am guessing that Butler, known for his defensive talents as well, could try his hand defending Murray too, or they could simply do a switch. Think about it, Adebayo and Butler facing Jokic and Murray down low, that is definitely something that can be done, a very difficult one to switch because Butler on Jokic is a tough one, but not an impossible one neither. I think it could definitely work, they could face each other equally. I am sure that it will not be easy series for anyone, both teams will be very tough to beat, but I still see Nuggets a bit better right now, Jokic deserved MVP this year too, it was just voters fatigue, and he will get FMVP instead.
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