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Quote from: mirakal on January 14, 2023, 01:14:20 PM

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This is what the beauty of these rumors, despite having no official announcement, everyone is making and giving their opinions on what's good and bad potential outcome for such.

Saying that he wants to stay in the Utah Jazz is just all about words and if that's what really desires to be but with his market value and if it can't be helped then, he'll for sure going to find another team that's willing to give his desired contract not unless he's got the heart to stay for Jazz.

People are even rooting for the Utah Jazz already to participate in the upcoming playoffs because despite of the fact that the team is still rebuilding, they are showing some good signs from having a consistent performance since the season started and still getting some improvement in every games which is quite unexpected from a team that is supposed to be tanking this season. Hopefully, the Jazz can adjust with Clarkson's price for at least a year to see where will this team go.

I've been seeing them in the past seasons but always fell short of glory when it's about the playoffs. Like the start of this season, they're at the top but now they're currently #9.

Still, he has became the franchise player of Utah Jazz so if the management is considering that. They'll have to bear and give the demand of JC if it's still allowable by their budget and limitations.

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Reports saying that the Lakers are trying to talk LeBron into riding out this year and then in the offseason they'll try to get Dame or Beal. I honestly think from a business perspective, this is the only thing that makes sense with Westbrook's contract. They're going to have to eat that money and then try again to get a championship level point guard. I'd personally love to see Dame and LeBron play together, as they're both a couple of the best ever at what they do. They're both getting pretty old though. I hope there's still time for them to play at a high level. In any event, this is bad news for people who wanted to see the Lakers in the playoffs this year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-insider-says-the-los-angeles-lakers-are-trying-to-sell-lebron-james-on-acquiring-damian-lillard-or-bradley-beal-this-summer/ar-AA16knMc

I love me some Dame time. But he is on the backend of his career he can't be the young juice they bring in. AD and Bron will be another year older. Bringing in vets barely ever works. Honestly Beal might be a good option though, haven't followed his injury history although I know he has been out this year a bunch already. They need bodies on the floor 82 games a year. That is their issue.

Yeah, but maybe he can still bring some championship to the Lakers? He is still good no doubt about that, it's that the Portland management was not able to surround Dame with good players. and maybe if him and Lebron can be team mates, who knows, maybe they will click as long as the second unit will be their to assists them.

I understand that they have to play gruelling 82 games and then the playoffs, but that's the true testament of a good player and solid team.

And I think Dame + Lebron might be a good combo.

Dame is proud of his loyalty with the Trail Blazers, so I don't think we will see him in another team. Lebron already had Westbrook, in fact, before Westbrook played with the Lakers, the hyped was very high since Westbrook is a triple double machine, but they failed our expectation.

Lillard's statement here;

Damian Lillard Is Proud Of Loyalty To Trail Blazers, Says That Winning A Championship With Another Team Wouldn't Be As "Fulfilling"

I'm sorry to say but I don't think there is such loyalty with this teams. I mean even if Dame wanted to stay, but if the management decided to ship him out, he can't do anything about it. Only few players remain loyal to their team and retired with them but they bring championship to that franchise. If Dame can't do it, then obviously management will have to go to rebuilding phase. And when you are out of your prime, then most likely the team will not value you anymore, just saying.

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I like that there is a match early in the morning, we can watch two matches in a row on TV. That's the difference of living in Europe, of course, it's midnight for us now. Normally the matches are very late.
First, we looked at the New York Knicks game, even though Detroit tried to catch up from time to time, it was clear that the Knicks would win the game. The match was always under their control. Julius Randle had a great game. It's evident from the 42 points he scored. Pistons can play up to a level, but in the moments of breaking, the player who takes responsibility doesn't come out. There was no Bogdanovic today, Cunningham has been gone for a long time. It's not easy to win games this way.
Now there is the game between the Golden State Warriors and the Chicago Bulls. Chicago started the game well and has already led to 15 points. It's a fun match. It looks like Chicago will win the game without letting the opponent catch up.

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Quote from: Yogee on January 15, 2023, 10:58:03 AM

I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.

Right now, the Jazz can only offer up to $16 Million for a contract extension. With the way Jordan Clarkson is performing right now, he deserves above $20 Million for the first year. The Jazz cannot legally offer that because of NBA restrictions on extensions. I think he will wait until the off season and then he can legally negotiate a higher price, whether it will be with the Jazz or another team. And if that does not pan out or no offers came, he can always pick up his player options for the 2023-2024 season.

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....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,

Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

Since they are rebuilding, the Jazz probably will get their franchise player from draft picks and will need Jordan Clarkson as a veteran that will guide or mentor the young superstars.

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Quote from: FanEagle on January 15, 2023, 12:00:22 PM

Dame is a superstar there is no doubt about that. Just because he hasn't been himself lately doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the all time greats to play this game. Which is why I wasn't shocked to see him play such a great game. Dallas is still a great team with the core they are building.

Between Spencer and Wood and Doncic, we are looking at three good players there, if they could get just one more superstar to Luka, that team could actually fight for a title, there is no denying that at all. Sure all teams sometimes lose games, everyone does, but if they get another superstar, they would be getting titles.

With that statement regarding to have an additional superstar to help Luka, I think it's time now for the management to look for a good trade.
like what you said, Spencer and Wood are great players but to help Luka in achieving the title.

Still a big task for these two stars, Luka need someone who can play like him or a big threat like him with both offense and defense,

A consistent addition to make sure Luka will receive the help that he needs each time they are playing.

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Quote from: FanEagle on January 15, 2023, 12:00:22 PM

Dame is a superstar there is no doubt about that. Just because he hasn't been himself lately doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the all time greats to play this game. Which is why I wasn't shocked to see him play such a great game. Dallas is still a great team with the core they are building.

Between Spencer and Wood and Doncic, we are looking at three good players there, if they could get just one more superstar to Luka, that team could actually fight for a title, there is no denying that at all. Sure all teams sometimes lose games, everyone does, but if they get another superstar, they would be getting titles.

Dallas without Luka on the court might be one of the worst teams in the league. They need much more than 1 player to compete for a title, Luka can't do it all on his own. Wood is a good piece but not the type of player that will tilt their way to a title. Teams like Denver in 7 game series would eat them up. Luka is good to carry the team on his own once or twice but no way any team doesn't throw double teams on him all series long.

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Dame is a superstar there is no doubt about that. Just because he hasn't been himself lately doesn't negate the fact that he is one of the all time greats to play this game. Which is why I wasn't shocked to see him play such a great game. Dallas is still a great team with the core they are building.

Between Spencer and Wood and Doncic, we are looking at three good players there, if they could get just one more superstar to Luka, that team could actually fight for a title, there is no denying that at all. Sure all teams sometimes lose games, everyone does, but if they get another superstar, they would be getting titles.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 15, 2023, 03:07:46 AM

I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

Clarkson really wanted to win this match. It's unbelievable to score 38 points. It would certainly be beneficial for the team if a player with such talent and scoring so many points stays in the team. But it is very important that this performance is consistent and that it contributes to the team in a similar way in every match. It was a sad loss for the Utah Jazz, they lost the game by only 1 point

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Quote from: mirakal on January 15, 2023, 10:23:31 AM

....Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson,

Clarkson is good and their current best player but he is not some generational talent that would make Jazz management keep him until he retires or build a team around. Donovan is still better and would have been that "franchise player" for them but they still traded him.

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I guess he would stay if they will give him his desired range.

I agree that he deserves a better pay with the way he's playing now. The question is how much is his desired range? He's probably asking a franchise player level kind of deal that's why Jazz management couldn't give it to him.

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Clarkson is indeed playing like an all star, he is now a go to guy of the Jazz, even without Lauri Markkanen on the floor, the coaching staff are still choosing him to produce in crunch time because he is a clutch player. He dropped 38 points last night, that's a serious statement because it's against Embiid and Harden, actually, it looks like a batter between Harden and Clarkson, and see the level of Harden, he was a former MVP.

Jazz will miss the opportunity to have a player that will make the team better if they will let go of Clarkson, I guess he would stay if they will give him his desired range.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 15, 2023, 03:07:46 AM

I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

That's why he wants to prove to everyone that he can tank a team with only himself but that's obviously not enough and they are falling behind like they are not gonna make it to the playoffs this year. That's why we are hearing rumors that he is not really interested anymore in playing in Utah and probably might gonna consider playing in San Antonio Spurs because he reportedly bought a mansion there. I don't know if it it's true but he probably considering taking another road if he wants to win a championship.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 15, 2023, 05:03:17 AM

Looks good on paper. That would be Dame + AD + Lebron. Dame is the outside shooter that the Lakers need. He would complement very well how AD and Lebron play. The only problem I see here is that these 3 will eat a big chunk of their salary cap. They will have the same problem that they have now. There is no budget left to get good role players that they need to support these 3. They will end up getting aging veterans to fill up their roster. But knowing the Lakers, if given the chance, they will push through in getting these trio together.

LeBron, Davis, and Dame on the same team sounds great, but I don't think it's possible since Dame has a huge contract with the Blazers until the end of the 25/26 season, including a player option until the end of the 26/27 season. I mean, there's no way the Blazers would trade him for nothing. So if the Lakers really want to get him, they will have to include both Davis and half the team in the trade.

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Reports saying that the Lakers are trying to talk LeBron into riding out this year and then in the offseason they'll try to get Dame or Beal. I honestly think from a business perspective, this is the only thing that makes sense with Westbrook's contract. They're going to have to eat that money and then try again to get a championship level point guard. I'd personally love to see Dame and LeBron play together, as they're both a couple of the best ever at what they do. They're both getting pretty old though. I hope there's still time for them to play at a high level. In any event, this is bad news for people who wanted to see the Lakers in the playoffs this year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-insider-says-the-los-angeles-lakers-are-trying-to-sell-lebron-james-on-acquiring-damian-lillard-or-bradley-beal-this-summer/ar-AA16knMc

I love me some Dame time. But he is on the backend of his career he can't be the young juice they bring in. AD and Bron will be another year older. Bringing in vets barely ever works. Honestly Beal might be a good option though, haven't followed his injury history although I know he has been out this year a bunch already. They need bodies on the floor 82 games a year. That is their issue.

Yeah, but maybe he can still bring some championship to the Lakers? He is still good no doubt about that, it's that the Portland management was not able to surround Dame with good players. and maybe if him and Lebron can be team mates, who knows, maybe they will click as long as the second unit will be their to assists them.

I understand that they have to play gruelling 82 games and then the playoffs, but that's the true testament of a good player and solid team.

And I think Dame + Lebron might be a good combo.

Dame is proud of his loyalty with the Trail Blazers, so I don't think we will see him in another team. Lebron already had Westbrook, in fact, before Westbrook played with the Lakers, the hyped was very high since Westbrook is a triple double machine, but they failed our expectation.

Lillard's statement here;

Damian Lillard Is Proud Of Loyalty To Trail Blazers, Says That Winning A Championship With Another Team Wouldn't Be As "Fulfilling"

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 15, 2023, 06:13:36 AM

Dame had one of his best games and so is Grant and Nurkic a quiet 22 points. Simons though and Sharpe could be the key difference for the Portland in this game as they really put a big help for Dame.

Dame always have the best game, I mean he is a real superstar, he can drop 30 points easily. But this time, they finally won a game after a long drought, good for them and I'm hoping they will start a winning streak as they are already behind in the standing. Rank number 11 now with 20-22 record, they will not even qualify in the play-in tournament if they'll stay at that standing.

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Less than a month from the market deadline, rumors of possible exchanges between the various teams are starting to intensify. From John Collins who is free to look for a team on his behalf to the Lakers who want two Detroit Pistons players up to the possible farewell of Derrick Rose in New York, what do you think?

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I do believe he have a good team behind him. Jerami Grant is there and then Anfernee Simons. It's the consistency that is missing especially from Simons which I think is a good player, but he is young and badly need more experience.
GPII has also returned so they have some defense running now when they needed to stop guards like Mitchell. It's just a matter of time before he makes chemistry with the team.
IMO, it's a good fought game against the Cavaliers, it's just that they are a strong team to deal with.

I think they need to change their system, moving the ball more is probably the best solution. The reason why Lillard's teammate is inconsistent because they are focusing so much on Lillard when it comes to offense. Simons and Grant can drop 30 points in a game, actually it's not only Simons who are inconsistent but also Grant, maybe the problem is the system.

Now we all saw how big of a change a defensive player can do for a team. Gary Payton II. 4 Steals in 5 minutes then he rests. Played more minutes and scored two 3 points. Big ones that buried the Mavericks.
But thats not what made him shine, its his defense that made the Trail Blazers look stronger than any team now. He is a pandemic in the defensive end and all his teammates are infected by it. He is definitely the son of The Glove. Cheesy

I hope they give him more minutes when his health is better.

He has been a defensive gem with the Warriors, and as you can see how good his hands and have that kind of numbers are far as steal goes. And his 1st three, he look at the bench of the Dallas team, and then he hit again and that could be the dagger for the Mavs as they give up already.

Dame had one of his best games and so is Grant and Nurkic a quiet 22 points. Simons though and Sharpe could be the key difference for the Portland in this game as they really put a big help for Dame.

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 13, 2023, 06:00:20 AM

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I do believe he have a good team behind him. Jerami Grant is there and then Anfernee Simons. It's the consistency that is missing especially from Simons which I think is a good player, but he is young and badly need more experience.
GPII has also returned so they have some defense running now when they needed to stop guards like Mitchell. It's just a matter of time before he makes chemistry with the team.
IMO, it's a good fought game against the Cavaliers, it's just that they are a strong team to deal with.

I think they need to change their system, moving the ball more is probably the best solution. The reason why Lillard's teammate is inconsistent because they are focusing so much on Lillard when it comes to offense. Simons and Grant can drop 30 points in a game, actually it's not only Simons who are inconsistent but also Grant, maybe the problem is the system.

Now we all saw how big of a change a defensive player can do for a team. Gary Payton II. 4 Steals in 5 minutes then he rests. Played more minutes and scored two 3 points. Big ones that buried the Mavericks.
But thats not what made him shine, its his defense that made the Trail Blazers look stronger than any team now. He is a pandemic in the defensive end and all his teammates are infected by it. He is definitely the son of The Glove. Cheesy

I hope they give him more minutes when his health is better.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on January 14, 2023, 03:01:27 PM

It may seem like the Lakers' place in the standings doesn't change, and they're still at the bottom, but the fact is they only have 3 fewer wins than the Jazz, who are currently in 8th place in the standings. So the Lakers still have a chance to make both the play-in tournament and the playoffs, but they need Davis for that. Honestly, I think the Lakers have been performing a lot better lately compared to their performance earlier this season. Let me remind you that the Lakers started this season extremely poorly, as they had 2 wins and 10 losses at that moment.

Yes, they still have a chance, I was very positive after a series of 5 wins in a row, but then again these two losses against Denver and Dallas. By the way, they won Atalanta and Sacramento without Davis, and this was also a very good sign, the game with Sacramento was especially difficult, the struggle in every quarter and such a difficult and important win. But still, I agree with you that they need Davis, although I can’t remember when he last played, if i'm not mistaken it was mid-December, after such a break it’s not so easy to immediately enter the game.

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Quote from: Jating on January 15, 2023, 04:48:34 AM

And I think Dame + Lebron might be a good combo.

Looks good on paper. That would be Dame + AD + Lebron. Dame is the outside shooter that the Lakers need. He would complement very well how AD and Lebron play. The only problem I see here is that these 3 will eat a big chunk of their salary cap. They will have the same problem that they have now. There is no budget left to get good role players that they need to support these 3. They will end up getting aging veterans to fill up their roster. But knowing the Lakers, if given the chance, they will push through in getting these trio together.

Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 14, 2023, 10:59:28 PM

6th place to 13th place doesn't have much difference and could be changed but I agree with you. With David less Lakers, it won't be easy to climb to the 8th spot. If Anthony Davis will always be like this, it is not far from happening that he will be like others who lose their shine because of injury.

They don't need to climb to the 8th spot. They just need to qualify for playin and force their way into the playoffs. This is possible if AD is healthy since the standing is very closely knit together. I think that is the only way they can make it to the playoffs. Anyway, even if they qualify, there is no way they are beating the top teams in the west. Not with this current roster.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 15, 2023, 03:07:46 AM

I can't believe, Clarkson is again playing like an all star, he scored 38 points against the 76ers. But it's just unfortunate that they lose the game, but it's a 1 point lose only. The level of accuracy and the high level of confidence, that's what Clarkson is now, I believe the management are really pressured because they cannot give the demand of Clarkson, but they want him to stay.

I watched him the whole game and I could say I am amazed at how far he would go to claim a win for his team. Remember, Markkenen was not playing a while ago and it's Philly they are up against, one of the strong teams with Embiid and Harden present. That means they are like -10 or -15 without one of their top scorers and yet they fought too damn close and even had the chance to win the game.
Sure, that last defensive feat by the 76ers was great but that's because Clarkson was the only threat so they doubled him.
I have no comment about the contract yet, I just believe Clarkson will stay as a Jazz.

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