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December 13, 2022, 05:27:09 AM
I'm curious who you guys would list as your top 5 players in the world right now? I think you've obviously have to include
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Luka Doncic, and Kevin Durant.  But after these three, I feel like it's pretty hard to round out the top 5.  I feel like Lebron is still in this category, although of course getting pretty close to longer being there.  But who else would you guys choose to round out your top 5?
Let's not also forget the 2 time Kia MVP, Nikola Jokic who averages almost a triple-double per game.
How about SGA?
One of the top offensive players in the league. His defense is also not that bad as he averages almost 2 steals per game.
According to stats though, it's Ja Morant in the 5th spot, Jokic on top of him, and Shai somewhere in the top 10. But I like his impact on the OKC Thunder, they are not far behind thanks to his consistent game.
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December 13, 2022, 05:13:01 AM
Big win by the Clippers, I'm surprised, it was not even a close game. A 20 points win from the home team, and they are even the underdog. Also, it seemed like Leonard is already back, he was very efficient in this game contributing 25 pts, 6 assts, and 9 rebounds.

This is a scary team, with Leonard getting 100% soon, this team is gonna be a great contender of winning the NBA championship.

Celtics already suffered a two losing streak, 1 from the Warriors, now against the Clippers.

There's no doubt they can really win and update the number 1 team in the league because we know Leonard can really play and have some skills with him to help his teammates win a championship. This season has really been a big surprise because as you can see, in the western conference, the New Orleans Pelicans are already at the top with the help of Williamson and we see the Clippers today having no problem winning against the Boston Celtics. This is how the league quickly changes when the superstars of the other teams are healthy.


Clippers will always have that chance to move forward and chase for the title.

Chances are there but their main problem is if they can sustain there stars to be healthy since both of those guys are injury prone so maybe they should focus to make them stay healthy and get those chance to chase the title they want. Clippers is undeniable good but consistency is what they need so maybe they should think about more strategic ways to make their stars available especially on their important games.
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December 13, 2022, 04:56:15 AM
Big win by the Clippers, I'm surprised, it was not even a close game. A 20 points win from the home team, and they are even the underdog. Also, it seemed like Leonard is already back, he was very efficient in this game contributing 25 pts, 6 assts, and 9 rebounds.

This is a scary team, with Leonard getting 100% soon, this team is gonna be a great contender of winning the NBA championship.

Celtics already suffered a two losing streak, 1 from the Warriors, now against the Clippers.

There's no doubt they can really win and update the number 1 team in the league because we know Leonard can really play and have some skills with him to help his teammates win a championship. This season has really been a big surprise because as you can see, in the western conference, the New Orleans Pelicans are already at the top with the help of Williamson and we see the Clippers today having no problem winning against the Boston Celtics. This is how the league quickly changes when the superstars of the other teams are healthy.

Yeah, like also what happened with the Lakers. When both AD and LeBron are healthy, they made a good winning streak,
now, it's Leonard and the Clippers.

We might see more winnings with them or expect a good streak for them with Leonard having
a healthy game like this, and with the supporting role players to back him up. We all know that
Clippers will always have that chance to move forward and chase for the title.
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December 13, 2022, 03:17:03 AM
Big win by the Clippers, I'm surprised, it was not even a close game. A 20 points win from the home team, and they are even the underdog. Also, it seemed like Leonard is already back, he was very efficient in this game contributing 25 pts, 6 assts, and 9 rebounds.

This is a scary team, with Leonard getting 100% soon, this team is gonna be a great contender of winning the NBA championship.

Celtics already suffered a two losing streak, 1 from the Warriors, now against the Clippers.

There's no doubt they can really win and update the number 1 team in the league because we know Leonard can really play and have some skills with him to help his teammates win a championship. This season has really been a big surprise because as you can see, in the western conference, the New Orleans Pelicans are already at the top with the help of Williamson and we see the Clippers today having no problem winning against the Boston Celtics. This is how the league quickly changes when the superstars of the other teams are healthy.
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December 13, 2022, 03:14:25 AM
Joel Embiid scored 53 points and grabbed 12 rebounds against Hornets, which is an excellent result and he has a very good overall record, averaging 38 points in the last 10 games. Against Utah, this season he also scored 59 points, Philadelphia won that game 105-98, and Joel scored more than half of all points. He said after the game with Hornets, that the ball itself found me, but it is clear that the players try to play with him if he has a good game.

This game was won by Joel Embiid alone, as he single-handedly gave his team, the Philadelphia 76ers, the victory. Watching the game at times, it felt like he was the only one on the court. In my opinion, he was the one who was really dictating the game. It seems to me that almost every time he was in the right place at the right time, I would agree with this statement. In addition, it is also very true that when his teammates saw that he was absolutely unstoppable, they also helped him by giving him more opportunities & giving him the ball more.

Last year there was a close MVP race between him Jokic and Giannis. One advantage Jokic has is that he remains consistent while Joel went down and got injured and so he didn't win the Award. But if he continues his performance like this and not be injured, I think he has a high chance to win this year no doubt.

He has a good supporting cast as well, lead by Harden and the Melton and Milton and Tobias Harris.

Gonna be a good Eastern showdown as who will be the team to beat with the Bucks (although they lost) and the Celtics as well.

Currently, Joel Embiid is listed on the 4th KIA MVP race behind Luka Doncic and Jayson Tatum is on the lead from 2nd to 1st. It will be an interesting race as long as the named ballers won't get any serious injury this season. Embiid is back again and looking forward to get the award that he haven't got last season because of the said injury that cost him that award.
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December 13, 2022, 02:03:49 AM
Big win by the Clippers, I'm surprised, it was not even a close game. A 20 points win from the home team, and they are even the underdog. Also, it seemed like Leonard is already back, he was very efficient in this game contributing 25 pts, 6 assts, and 9 rebounds.

This is a scary team, with Leonard getting 100% soon, this team is gonna be a great contender of winning the NBA championship.

Celtics already suffered a two losing streak, 1 from the Warriors, now against the Clippers.
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December 13, 2022, 01:24:08 AM
Pistons versus Lakers was a really interesting match. Bogdanović tried his best to have a result in favor of the Pistons. But he did not have much support. His team tried, but one man can only do so much.

Looks like the Lakers made an offer to try and get Bogdanovic from the Pisons but it seemed to be a cash and picks offer.  Seemingly a good deal for the Pistons as they are in rebuild mode and this trade would probably result in them having the worst record in the NBA this season, which is what most teams want to happen so that they can have a chance at the number 1 pick next year.  All eyes seem to be on Victor Wembanyama so I could actually see this trade happening in a crazy way.  Surely they would give up Bogdanovic for Victor Wembanyama if given the opportunity, so maybe the extra picks will be able to get them on board.  I would like this move from the Lakers.  Would be the first good trade they've made in years.
The Pistons might decline the offer at least on what I see and Bogdanovic is playing right now. Bogdanovic is a very good three-point shooter and if you just watch the NBA highlights of the game, he is also a good catch and shoot three-point shooter like Klay Thompson. Bogdanovic's value isn't worth only cash and pick offer. He can be a reliable scorer in every team, and we've seen it already when he's on the Jazz. If the Lakers really want Bogdanovic, at least increase the offer.

Pistons are one of the worst teams right now in the season and also add the fact that Cade Cunningham will not play this entire 2022-2023 season because of an injury: LINK. This increases the chances of the Pistons to be at the bottom spot again after the end of the season thus, increasing the chances of getting the top 1 spot and getting Wembanyama.
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December 13, 2022, 12:57:27 AM
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Another case of players taking advantage of the rare opportunities given to them. I'm honestly glad that vets like Mills and youngsters like Thomas suddenly puts up big numbers. It's refreshing and hopefully that continues for the sake of the club. People are getting tired of the toxicity around their "big 3".
Patty Mills, after being acquired by the Brooklyn Nets is being forgotten. I don't see him much in the rotation because they are using isolation plays for either KD in the first unit and Kyrie in the second, Mills doesn't work on that kind of play unlike in Spurs where the ball always rotates.
I'd like to see if Jacque Vaughn will use this unit again later and check its effectiveness even when the big 3 is back against the Wizards.
Back to the old line up and style of play. Mills benched while Thomas had decent time but limited to a few shots apparently.Those two will have to wait for another injury or rest for KD and Kyrie before they could play freely again hehe. Still not a bad decision for the coach I guess since the main guys did deliver and they got the all important W.

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Looks like back to back losses for the Celtics. Losing big against the Warriors and Clippers then facing the Lakers next. This could be three in a row.
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December 12, 2022, 10:50:49 PM
I'm curious who you guys would list as your top 5 players in the world right now? I think you've obviously have to include
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Luka Doncic, and Kevin Durant.  But after these three, I feel like it's pretty hard to round out the top 5.  I feel like Lebron is still in this category, although of course getting pretty close to longer being there.  But who else would you guys choose to round out your top 5?
These are my top 5 in no particular order.
- Giannis
- Durant
- Tatum
- Jokic
- Curry

I picked Tatum over Luka because of how his performance impacts his team not only this season but all throughout his whole career. The remaining has already an all-star for a long time and all 4 of them are a future hall of famer.

Your question is a bit general, and I must think of a specific time frame for it. I mean is it "all-time" or "this season only" or in the last 5 years etc. My choices are the best in the world for the past 5 years and I think they are the ones who has the most impact on their team.

I will have the following.

-Giannis
-Davis
-Zion
-Curry
-Lebron

I have Lebron and Davis who are in one team because they are playing great basketball, can't deny that Lebron is a hall of famer and he is still the king of basketball. Comes playoffs time, Lebron will be in beast mode and that will give their team a good chance of winning.
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December 12, 2022, 08:02:30 PM
I'm curious who you guys would list as your top 5 players in the world right now? I think you've obviously have to include
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Luka Doncic, and Kevin Durant.  But after these three, I feel like it's pretty hard to round out the top 5.  I feel like Lebron is still in this category, although of course getting pretty close to longer being there.  But who else would you guys choose to round out your top 5?
These are my top 5 in no particular order.
- Giannis
- Durant
- Tatum
- Jokic
- Curry

I picked Tatum over Luka because of how his performance impacts his team not only this season but all throughout his whole career. The remaining has already an all-star for a long time and all 4 of them are a future hall of famer.

Your question is a bit general, and I must think of a specific time frame for it. I mean is it "all-time" or "this season only" or in the last 5 years etc. My choices are the best in the world for the past 5 years and I think they are the ones who has the most impact on their team.
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December 12, 2022, 06:50:32 PM
I'm curious who you guys would list as your top 5 players in the world right now? I think you've obviously have to include
Giannis Antetokounmpo, Luka Doncic, and Kevin Durant.  But after these three, I feel like it's pretty hard to round out the top 5.  I feel like Lebron is still in this category, although of course getting pretty close to longer being there.  But who else would you guys choose to round out your top 5?
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December 12, 2022, 06:36:42 PM
Regardless of that, he just need to be more careful because he's really prone to it but when he's already inside the court,

Can he keep on being careful on the court, especially with his position? hehe.

What he needs to do, which he is already doing since then, is to just continue to improve his overall physical strength and sturdiness.

Since he already faced lots of injuries at a young age, that takes a toll on his body in the long run even though he is recovered and fit to play.
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December 12, 2022, 05:59:30 PM
Looks like the Lakers made an offer to try and get Bogdanovic from the Pisons but it seemed to be a cash and picks offer.  Seemingly a good deal for the Pistons as they are in rebuild mode and this trade would probably result in them having the worst record in the NBA this season, which is what most teams want to happen so that they can have a chance at the number 1 pick next year.  All eyes seem to be on Victor Wembanyama so I could actually see this trade happening in a crazy way.  Surely they would give up Bogdanovic for Victor Wembanyama if given the opportunity, so maybe the extra picks will be able to get them on board.  I would like this move from the Lakers.  Would be the first good trade they've made in years.
But it looks like many teams are interested in Bojan, Lakers should pursue this, he will be their sharpshooter that could space the floor giving AD enough room to use his post-up game regularly. If they are not stopping with the "win now" motto then they better offer what they can, now.

Bogdanovic is perfect for the Lakers. He is the key piece they have been looking for this whole season.  It was said here, over and over again, they need an outside shooter that can space the floor, not just for AD, but for WB and Lebron as well. He will open up lanes for Lebron and Westbrook to drive in. The near-perfect stroke he displayed during their match with the Lakers, knocking down threes even with a defender on his face, might have made Rob Pelinka's eyes twinkle in desire to get him. The only question now is, do they have the pieces to offers for Bojan?

I've been hearing the prospect about this kid, Wenbanyama. Where he's possibly going to be when he's going to enter the NBA? There's the picking/draft round but there's also the other ways of acquiring him by most teams through possible exclusive contract or buying his contract to the current league he's in.
Is he really that like a future or just an overhyped? I don't wish him to end up but I don't also want people to expect a lot just as mostly thought of Oden.

People looking at him as perfect proto type player and looking and his highlight we can really say he is so good many NBA player agree that he's generational one. Hopefully he will not get stab hard by injury before he land on NBA because if he get serious one maybe what you thought about being another Greg Oden might be happen.
That's also my kind of worry to him. Everybody years back then, we're all in for Greg and then an injury hits him. Victor should be careful on his physical body and moves.
I know that there could be advisors on him so that he'll be taken properly and with care and he'll have that mentality on how to decide properly for every moves that he do everytime he's on a game.

We can never really tell until he played in NBA. NBA is a different kind of beast. I only watched his highlights, and it is good. But that is not good enough to know if he will be good in NBA. We have to measure him with the intangibles. I need to watch a full game or 2 of him to know. What he does when he is off the ball, how is his leadership, his defense, and how hard he practices? These will all add up to how successful he will be in NBA. Talent can just take you so much, but persistence, consistency, and work ethics and habits will make you an NBA Star.
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December 12, 2022, 05:36:23 PM
I've been hearing the prospect about this kid, Wenbanyama. Where he's possibly going to be when he's going to enter the NBA? There's the picking/draft round but there's also the other ways of acquiring him by most teams through possible exclusive contract or buying his contract to the current league he's in.
Is he really that like a future or just an overhyped? I don't wish him to end up but I don't also want people to expect a lot just as mostly thought of Oden.

People looking at him as perfect proto type player and looking and his highlight we can really say he is so good many NBA player agree that he's generational one. Hopefully he will not get stab hard by injury before he land on NBA because if he get serious one maybe what you thought about being another Greg Oden might be happen.
That's also my kind of worry to him. Everybody years back then, we're all in for Greg and then an injury hits him. Victor should be careful on his physical body and moves.
I know that there could be advisors on him so that he'll be taken properly and with care and he'll have that mentality on how to decide properly for every moves that he do everytime he's on a game.
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December 12, 2022, 05:30:09 PM
Lakers win and the big 3 have some good numbers, but still the Pistons (the worst team in the NBA right now) were able to put the score to as close as 1 point and they almost handed the Lakers an L.
Bogdanovic was sensational with the series of 3s he had midway in the 3rd quarter and that gave the team a momentum boost to put the score closer.
Now, I have doubts again for the Lakers whether or not they're gonna make it to the playoffs, as they even struggling to earn a spot in the play-in tournament. Though it's kinda early and we're seeing a very slight progress, but as a Laker and LeBron fan, I'm still hoping they'll figure it out.
Very big day for Bojan Bogdanović while their stars are resting. That is the prime Bojan that we knew in Utah Jazz, he will punished those who are not defending him well either outside or inside offensive plays.
About the Lakers, my doubts will always be the "what if AD is out?" question.
Unlike teams like the Cavaliers for example, even without Mitchell (+5), they win games against an average team like Thunder (11-15 record).
Strength without stars, the Lakers' 2nd unit should keep on improving, soon they will be badly needed especially with this season filled with back-to-back games.

The Nets are now number 4 in the East. Just like that. Another example of a strong 2nd unit that beat the Pacers yesterday without Kyrie, KD, and Ben.
Bogdan Bogdanovic also just had a great game after he came back from injury. And Bojan Bogdanovic just had something similar. It is amusing.

I think everyone shares the doubt about AD. Every Lakers fan and organization workers must be praying for his health.

And Nets were also very impressive. I found their performance amazing without their stars. It was actually even better than some of their performance with KD and Kyrie.
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December 12, 2022, 05:28:47 PM
Looks like the Lakers made an offer to try and get Bogdanovic from the Pisons but it seemed to be a cash and picks offer.  Seemingly a good deal for the Pistons as they are in rebuild mode and this trade would probably result in them having the worst record in the NBA this season, which is what most teams want to happen so that they can have a chance at the number 1 pick next year.  All eyes seem to be on Victor Wembanyama so I could actually see this trade happening in a crazy way.  Surely they would give up Bogdanovic for Victor Wembanyama if given the opportunity, so maybe the extra picks will be able to get them on board.  I would like this move from the Lakers.  Would be the first good trade they've made in years.
But it looks like many teams are interested in Bojan, Lakers should pursue this, he will be their sharpshooter that could space the floor giving AD enough room to use his post-up game regularly. If they are not stopping with the "win now" motto then they better offer what they can, now.

The Nets are now number 4 in the East. Just like that. Another example of a strong 2nd unit that beat the Pacers yesterday without Kyrie, KD, and Ben.
That's an impressive performance for the 2nd unit of Nets. They are really proving that they are competitive and they did it in a surprising way, teamwork and trust each other.
Another case of players taking advantage of the rare opportunities given to them. I'm honestly glad that vets like Mills and youngsters like Thomas suddenly puts up big numbers. It's refreshing and hopefully that continues for the sake of the club. People are getting tired of the toxicity around their "big 3".
Patty Mills, after being acquired by the Brooklyn Nets is being forgotten. I don't see him much in the rotation because they are using isolation plays for either KD in the first unit and Kyrie in the second, Mills doesn't work on that kind of play unlike in Spurs where the ball always rotates.
I'd like to see if Jacque Vaughn will use this unit again later and check its effectiveness even when the big 3 is back against the Wizards.
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December 12, 2022, 04:44:26 PM
Last year there was a close MVP race between him Jokic and Giannis. One advantage Jokic has is that he remains consistent while Joel went down and got injured and so he didn't win the Award. But if he continues his performance like this and not be injured, I think he has a high chance to win this year no doubt.

He has a good supporting cast as well, lead by Harden and the Melton and Milton and Tobias Harris.

Gonna be a good Eastern showdown as who will be the team to beat with the Bucks (although they lost) and the Celtics as well.
Interesting thing Jokic is that people got used to him, I mean sure he can score decently, and he rebounds a bit like a centre should, but he passes so well and the games go through him, that was a new thing, a brand new type of "point centre" basically, he was the best, not the first of course, like Pau Gasol for example was one of the best passing big men we have seen, but at MVP level?

Jokic was the first ever. That is why I believe that he got some good votes, but people are used to him so they are not going to really vote for him too much this year. People are wanting to see something new, and if Doncic could get his team into at least 6th seed, I feel like he would get it for sure.


Yeah jokic transcends his position.  There is no one with both the vision of a top notch point guard and the ability to play like one in a centers body.  If you watch him play he rarely makes a mistake.  Not to say he doesn't turn it over but the decision is the right one whether or not he executes it correctly.  Dude could win mvp every year and justifiably so.
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December 12, 2022, 04:38:02 PM
Last year there was a close MVP race between him Jokic and Giannis. One advantage Jokic has is that he remains consistent while Joel went down and got injured and so he didn't win the Award. But if he continues his performance like this and not be injured, I think he has a high chance to win this year no doubt.

He has a good supporting cast as well, lead by Harden and the Melton and Milton and Tobias Harris.

Gonna be a good Eastern showdown as who will be the team to beat with the Bucks (although they lost) and the Celtics as well.
Interesting thing Jokic is that people got used to him, I mean sure he can score decently, and he rebounds a bit like a centre should, but he passes so well and the games go through him, that was a new thing, a brand new type of "point centre" basically, he was the best, not the first of course, like Pau Gasol for example was one of the best passing big men we have seen, but at MVP level?

Jokic was the first ever. That is why I believe that he got some good votes, but people are used to him so they are not going to really vote for him too much this year. People are wanting to see something new, and if Doncic could get his team into at least 6th seed, I feel like he would get it for sure.
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December 12, 2022, 04:12:01 PM
Boston celtics are performing great this season especially after losing the finals to the warriors that doesnt see to have affected them i hope they can make it far in the play offs again this season, after yesterday loss to the warriors next they will face the clippers i think the bookmakers offer great odds for their win and i think they will be able to snatch the victory.
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December 12, 2022, 04:05:25 PM
It is an easy game for the Lakers. The Piston is at the bottom of the Eastern Conference and with AD, Lebron and Westbrook on the floor, I do not think the Pistons even stand a chance against them.

If you watched the match, I don't understand how you can make such a comment. It hasn't been an easy game for the Lakers. The Lakers were leading most of the game, but there were moments when the Pistons made the point difference down to 1-2 points. When I wrote the comment, the third period of the match was being played. Bojan Bogdanovic had an incredible game. The Pistons would have won the game if one or two more of the other players had accompanied him. So contrary to what you said, the Pistons had a very good chance of winning the game.
In the end, LeBron James and Anthony Davis played big and won the game. If the Lakers can do that every game, they'll have a chance to make it to play-offs again. The Lakers won after losing three games and returned home. Now they will play three games at home, maybe they can make a new winning streak.

I was just thinking if you lead 7 to double digits in 3 out of 4 quarters of the game and never trailed even for 1 second in the game, it is an easy game. When AD easily imposes his will inside the paint, and Lebron easily cutting/driving inside and scoring, it is an easy game. When there is only 1 real threat on the opponent team, that only caught fire in the game and when they only come close when either AD or Lebron is out or when only the second unit is in playing, it is an easy game.

Bogdanovic made the game interesting though when he caught fire in the third quarter. Those catch-and-shoot was near perfect. But with just 1 player catching fire with the Pistons and the others don't even score half the score of Bogdanovic, no rebound, and no assists from other players, how can I say it was a hard-fought battle for the Lakers?
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