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November 02, 2022, 07:54:46 PM
What a sad day for Brooklyn and Steve Nash, separated ways early this season after having a 2-6 record, while the Lakers just celebrated the first win for Darvin as an NBA head coach with a record of 1-5. I'm afraid Darvin will follow this path if the Lakers won't make any difference even after this huge win against Denver.
A lot of things will change mid season, but top teams is in the bottom today lol. GSW just had their 3 straight L's.
I guess it's forthcoming, remember before the season started, there were some pressure from the management coming from a a player that wanted to get rid of Nash.

And so he won again, Nash left the Nets, and whatever he says, it's a bad separation in my opinion. Not sure about Ham, the Lakers could have too much faith in him right now.

I think it's a good thing that both sides agree to part ways. KD might still not like Steve Nash but at the same time, it's really a big headache coaching Brooklyn Nets. There are rumors that some teams are trying to take Ime Oduka's services and the Nets is one of those teams. But looking at the current Nets line-up, Oduka might not like it but he can rebuild the team as he likes. I see KD's chances of staying with the Nets the whole season at 50/50. Kyrie Irving always creates drama every season. And Ben Simmons is performing at a mediocre level which is obviously not worth his $35 million salary this season. 

As for the Lakers' new coach, Darvin Ham's fate rests in Lebron James' hands.  Cheesy
Yeah, and so still a big gamble for the Nets organization to replace Nash with Oduka. And we will be really tested here as the drama is always on the background, from the organization hiring him to Simmons being overpaid by the Nets.

And with tumultuous relationship, not sure how they can manage to stay free and win games. And I do agree that Nets is one of the worst organization right now in the NBA.
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November 02, 2022, 06:13:13 PM
I know that most of the time a good roster with a bad result is usually the coaches fault. However, that wasn't the case this time around, they have a toxic locker room and it has been like that for a while. I do not think that they could ever do anything with this team.

Ben Simmons who doesn't even wanna play, Kyrie who is a big moron who has been saying stuff that should get him banned from NBA if you ask me, Durant who asked to be traded out, and Nash was supposed to win with this team? I do not think so. I believe that Nets are a horrible organization, they are getting Ime Uduka who has been banned from his own team for what he did just to increase the toxic level in the team. It’s a disgrace and I am happy for Nash that he is leaving this toxic place.

Hehehe, yeah, the toxic level within the organization is the highest in the NBA if I'm not mistaken. And the organization is making one bad decision to another, like getting Nash to resign and then hiring someone who has a bad rep already.

And just imagine if you are a female and that you will have to interact with Oduka? I mean what is the feeling as he had already a precedent with Boston, and for sure it is very awkward as you don't want to be associate with that cheater.
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November 02, 2022, 05:36:37 PM
And Ben Simmons is performing at a mediocre level which is obviously not worth his $35 million salary this season. 

It's quite expected that Simmons' performance looks mediocre because he missed too many games due to his mental problems. It's worth noting that he's still a good rebounder and passer, but he can't score at all. I think Simmons still hasn't solved his problems, given that sometimes he's just afraid to look toward the basket, and he's even more afraid to throw the ball. Obviously, a player who isn't capable of scoring at least an average of 10-15 points per game doesn't deserve such a huge contract.
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November 02, 2022, 03:43:02 PM
I know that most of the time a good roster with a bad result is usually the coaches fault. However, that wasn't the case this time around, they have a toxic locker room and it has been like that for a while. I do not think that they could ever do anything with this team.

Ben Simmons who doesn't even wanna play, Kyrie who is a big moron who has been saying stuff that should get him banned from NBA if you ask me, Durant who asked to be traded out, and Nash was supposed to win with this team? I do not think so. I believe that Nets are a horrible organization, they are getting Ime Uduka who has been banned from his own team for what he did just to increase the toxic level in the team. It’s a disgrace and I am happy for Nash that he is leaving this toxic place.
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November 02, 2022, 03:06:41 PM
What the heck! The arrogance of the Brooklyn Nets to fire Steve Nash after being humble and forgiving Kyrie after what he said. Damn!
That's one thing men would not be willing to do and yet he did so that concludes he is really a good coach just to keep the team intact.
Then, he took them to the playoffs which should've been impossible after that stunt by Kyrie, KD, and Ben. The other guy doesn't want to play, while the other feels like he should not play yet and another thinks he is better than his coach.  Grin
It's their loss, I wish Steve Nash will be hired by other teams and prove them wrong. Sweet Revenge.

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.
And, they just lose to Chicago Bulls with those 17 turnovers and lot of offensive rebounds from Chicago. We don't know with Nets management and how they fire Steve but one thing is for sure if they improved then that's fine but if not, superstars should know what they're missing. Team owners/management these days will never hold coaches just because they're not winning. I wish Steve will have a lesson for this, maybe start small again as a coach on some small league then back again at NBA.

There are huge expectations on Nash shoulder when he become the coach of the Nets, for sure. Yes, he is a great player but we have seen some of them becoming coach but not very successful. Perhaps it was because of the team he handled with the Nets or maybe he needs more experienced first. And the NBA has really evolved, the team owners will always blame the coaches first when something went awry just. But at least there's no more pressure on Nash now, he have defended Kyrie and Durant in public, not saying anything bad against those two, class act by Nash and goodluck to him.
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November 02, 2022, 02:58:01 PM

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.

They really need to win now because they been struggling to win in their last games, it will be their worse nightmare if they won't gonna improve with their new coach and honestly, it will be hard for them to adjust their way of playing right now but maybe they can still be good to go if coach Nash is the only problem in the team. we will have a glimpse of their future in their next game and hope that it will turn the table for them.

Udoka have had success in Boston, he can replicate it maybe with the Nets, and bring his experience. It's just, a couple of months ago, we don't know if he will be hired again and have a job, do you guys think that Nets is kinda dig their hands again in controversy when they hire Udoka?

They already had a lot in the last couple of months as mentioned by @yahoo62278. I think it's better if they will hire someone without anything, just saying.
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November 02, 2022, 02:42:21 PM

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.

They really need to win now because they been struggling to win in their last games, it will be their worse nightmare if they won't gonna improve with their new coach and honestly, it will be hard for them to adjust their way of playing right now but maybe they can still be good to go if coach Nash is the only problem in the team. we will have a glimpse of their future in their next game and hope that it will turn the table for them.

Even with a good coach, it will not be an instant gratification case. There will be an adjustment period before they can see success especially since the play styles will be completely different. The Nets right now like to play hero balls with Kyrie and KD making their own shots while Udoka's play is more on moving the ball around. Hopefully, Udoka will get the two stars respect so he can coach them otherwise it will be Nash all over again.

Exactly, it might not be a big deal for the other people because they are not the ones who are playing for the franchise but for them, it is as they needed a boost as well, just like what you've said. Now that they got what they wanted, let's see if that boost restored their morale and is already enough to beat the NOP next game. Darvin Ham might've got an idea because of that win they've got.

Any win for LA Lakers right now is a cause for celebration. With how bad they started this season and how disarrayed their roster is, they should be happy they have won against Nuggets. Maybe it was pure luck or they have finally found something that clicks in their roster, we will know that in the next few games if they continue winning. And we need a tougher team than NOP to prove that they have found their formula for winning. Maybe a win against Bucks or Celtics will cement that.
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November 02, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
Brooklyn is a tire fire currently. I think they did Steve Nash a favor by letting him go. Look at the shit he had to deal with. Kyrie wouldn't get vaccinated, Durant trying to force a trade, Durant trying to get him fired, and now Kyrie with his antisemitism stuff. That team is just insane the last couple years. Nash will get another job if he really wants it.

I definitely agree, they can consider and call themselves lucky because Steve Nash haven't left their side despite all the issues he has to face since last season and surely it wasn't a nice experience for Steve as a head coach because he has to deal with these ladies in his team. I cannot imagine what will happen to the franchise if Ben Simmons got his own issues too because right now, he is left behind from all the dramas as Kyrie and Durant already started theirs. So, good luck for the new head coach. Did Ime Udoka accepted the offer already?
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November 02, 2022, 11:44:19 AM

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.

They really need to win now because they been struggling to win in their last games, it will be their worse nightmare if they won't gonna improve with their new coach and honestly, it will be hard for them to adjust their way of playing right now but maybe they can still be good to go if coach Nash is the only problem in the team. we will have a glimpse of their future in their next game and hope that it will turn the table for them.
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November 02, 2022, 10:31:06 AM
Edit: Steve Nash fired as the Nets coach.

This is not good news, and I don't think Nash deserved to be fired. First of all, it should be noted that Nash didn't have enough experience to manage players like Irving, Durant, and Harden in his first year as head coach. Therefore the beginning of Nash's coaching career was extremely difficult because he had to constantly adapt to solve various problems on the team.
By the way, there are already rumors that the Nets are in talks with Udoka, and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the new Nets' head coach.

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It looks like Durant will be pleased with himself because he pushed for Nash's firing since the offseason.

Surely not a good thing for the Nets because they need Steve Nash now more than ever and seriously not a wise move from the management. Because why would they fire Steve Nash? It was just a bad start and it's not like that they haven't' won at least 1 game since the season started, they should've give him more time to adjust too as having the Big Three Drama Queens under his watch is not an easy thing to do because they have their own worlds.

Also, is this real that Ime Udoka will be replacing Steve Nash? Because I don't think that the Celtics will just simply agree as having Udoka in other team means that the Bucks weaknesses will be revealed too. Seriously, what happened to NBA these days? Everybody want instant progress.

Yes, it’s real that Ime Udoka will be replacing Steve Nash as the Brooklyn Nets head coach. At least according to Woj. It should be official this week. I definitely didn’t expect that Udoka would have a new coaching job before the news of what happened in Boston became public, especially after Matt Barnes made it sound like Udoka was finished in professional sports. Seems like the Nets are going out of their way to sign the most problematic players and staff they can get their hands on.
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November 02, 2022, 09:37:15 AM
Edit: Steve Nash fired as the Nets coach.

This is not good news, and I don't think Nash deserved to be fired. First of all, it should be noted that Nash didn't have enough experience to manage players like Irving, Durant, and Harden in his first year as head coach. Therefore the beginning of Nash's coaching career was extremely difficult because he had to constantly adapt to solve various problems on the team.
By the way, there are already rumors that the Nets are in talks with Udoka, and I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes the new Nets' head coach.

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It looks like Durant will be pleased with himself because he pushed for Nash's firing since the offseason.

Surely not a good thing for the Nets because they need Steve Nash now more than ever and seriously not a wise move from the management. Because why would they fire Steve Nash? It was just a bad start and it's not like that they haven't' won at least 1 game since the season started, they should've give him more time to adjust too as having the Big Three Drama Queens under his watch is not an easy thing to do because they have their own worlds.

Also, is this real that Ime Udoka will be replacing Steve Nash? Because I don't think that the Celtics will just simply agree as having Udoka in other team means that the Bucks weaknesses will be revealed too. Seriously, what happened to NBA these days? Everybody want instant progress.
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November 02, 2022, 09:30:40 AM
Goodness gracious, Denver Nuggets are so kind that they've given the first-ever win for the Lakers. Kidding Aside.
I thought that the Nuggets would be able to catch up with the lead of the Lakers but that's it, it seems an achievement and many are happy with this win for the Lakers.
We are wishing them that this should be the motivation on them to get their next wins.
Yeah, finally.
I just don't like how Russ boastful gestures with just one win. They have to win more. There are 82 games in the season and I would not be that overconfident yet just because of one win. Sure, he likes celebrating but it's not yet time. There's a goal to achieve the playoffs and be on the safe seed like 1-6 to avoid being in the play-in tournament.

Anyway, I like what AD is doing, that's the AD we got used to. Post-up, mid-range shots, very high accuracy. He didn't try any three which is good.


Don't be so hard on them mate Cheesy I understand your point but they also have the right to celebrate their first win after getting five straight defeats since the season began especially Russell Westbrook who is always the center of criticism and note that it was also the first win since Darvin Ham took the post of Frank Vogel, so it's kind of a good thing to celebrate.

Now, celebrations are finished because they are back again to reality where they will be playing with the NOP. What do you think guys, can they duplicate their performance this time?

It's understndable that Lakers needed that kind of boost, after winning the game celebrating is something that

the new coach needs, a kind of appreciation coming from the whole staff, it's a gesture that they
are all respecting him and they are all believing that he can do it.

Like what you said, it's back to reality and they will be playing the NOP, looking to see more good
adjustment for the Lakers to keep the winning vibes continue.

Exactly, it might not be a big deal for the other people because they are not the ones who are playing for the franchise but for them, it is as they needed a boost as well, just like what you've said. Now that they got what they wanted, let's see if that boost restored their morale and is already enough to beat the NOP next game. Darvin Ham might've got an idea because of that win they've got.
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November 02, 2022, 09:20:12 AM
Goodness gracious, Denver Nuggets are so kind that they've given the first-ever win for the Lakers. Kidding Aside.
I thought that the Nuggets would be able to catch up with the lead of the Lakers but that's it, it seems an achievement and many are happy with this win for the Lakers.
We are wishing them that this should be the motivation on them to get their next wins.

It is nice to see the Lakers get a W finally. They were led by Russell Westbrook having a good shooting night off the bench as the Lakers second unit destroyed the Nuggets’ all night. A nice picture of what the Lakers are capable of.

I never thought that the Lakers could score their first win against the Nuggets because Nuggets is also a tough team to beat yet the Laker still managed to win. AD and LeBron were also alive and doing most of their jobs, but the bench players were different that night especially Wesbrook for bouncing back as he almost committed a triple double while this kid Austin Reaves was also good, contributing double digits for the team.

Their drought is over, let's hope that it's a good start for the season and they had already figured out how to win. Looking for the next win, hopefully, they'll get another one because if they'll lose again, that could be another start of the problem. Westbrook needs to be consistent, he cannot go off and on, because that's the only way to help his team.

As much as I would like to agree that their drought is over but I think it is still too soon for that, they are now facing the Pelicans next and we know how tough they are this season especially when Zion have returned. It will be a tough challenge for sure and the Lakers will be tested if they indeed got their rhythm together, also, there might be some small problems because Davis is listed as questionable. Westbrook also got to prove as well that he is bouncing back.
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November 02, 2022, 08:00:35 AM
What the heck! The arrogance of the Brooklyn Nets to fire Steve Nash after being humble and forgiving Kyrie after what he said. Damn!
That's one thing men would not be willing to do and yet he did so that concludes he is really a good coach just to keep the team intact.
Then, he took them to the playoffs which should've been impossible after that stunt by Kyrie, KD, and Ben. The other guy doesn't want to play, while the other feels like he should not play yet and another thinks he is better than his coach.  Grin
It's their loss, I wish Steve Nash will be hired by other teams and prove them wrong. Sweet Revenge.

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.
And, they just lose to Chicago Bulls with those 17 turnovers and lot of offensive rebounds from Chicago. We don't know with Nets management and how they fire Steve but one thing is for sure if they improved then that's fine but if not, superstars should know what they're missing. Team owners/management these days will never hold coaches just because they're not winning. I wish Steve will have a lesson for this, maybe start small again as a coach on some small league then back again at NBA.

Usually when the team is struggling the blame is mostly on the coach. IMO, coach Nash could be fired last year but it was just delayed, and now we are already seeing our expectations, it's like there's a conflict between the best players and him, so things will not work out.

Teams do usually invest on players not on coach, so it's not surprising.
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November 02, 2022, 07:56:50 AM
What the heck! The arrogance of the Brooklyn Nets to fire Steve Nash after being humble and forgiving Kyrie after what he said. Damn!
That's one thing men would not be willing to do and yet he did so that concludes he is really a good coach just to keep the team intact.
Then, he took them to the playoffs which should've been impossible after that stunt by Kyrie, KD, and Ben. The other guy doesn't want to play, while the other feels like he should not play yet and another thinks he is better than his coach.  Grin
It's their loss, I wish Steve Nash will be hired by other teams and prove them wrong. Sweet Revenge.

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.
And, they just lose to Chicago Bulls with those 17 turnovers and lot of offensive rebounds from Chicago. We don't know with Nets management and how they fire Steve but one thing is for sure if they improved then that's fine but if not, superstars should know what they're missing. Team owners/management these days will never hold coaches just because they're not winning. I wish Steve will have a lesson for this, maybe start small again as a coach on some small league then back again at NBA.
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November 02, 2022, 07:17:55 AM
What the heck! The arrogance of the Brooklyn Nets to fire Steve Nash after being humble and forgiving Kyrie after what he said. Damn!
That's one thing men would not be willing to do and yet he did so that concludes he is really a good coach just to keep the team intact.
Then, he took them to the playoffs which should've been impossible after that stunt by Kyrie, KD, and Ben. The other guy doesn't want to play, while the other feels like he should not play yet and another thinks he is better than his coach.  Grin
It's their loss, I wish Steve Nash will be hired by other teams and prove them wrong. Sweet Revenge.

Let's see if the new coach will make this team great again.

Nets are struggling and they put all the blame to the coach, well, we can understand that as Irving and Durant were real superstars and yet their team can barely win a game. No more excuses now, if they still would not improve, then we can conclude that the players are really the problem, most especially on the superstars.
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November 02, 2022, 07:07:15 AM
What the heck! The arrogance of the Brooklyn Nets to fire Steve Nash after being humble and forgiving Kyrie after what he said. Damn!
That's one thing men would not be willing to do and yet he did so that concludes he is really a good coach just to keep the team intact.
Then, he took them to the playoffs which should've been impossible after that stunt by Kyrie, KD, and Ben. The other guy doesn't want to play, while the other feels like he should not play yet and another thinks he is better than his coach.  Grin
It's their loss, I wish Steve Nash will be hired by other teams and prove them wrong. Sweet Revenge.
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November 02, 2022, 07:00:05 AM
What a sad day for Brooklyn and Steve Nash, separated ways early this season after having a 2-6 record, while the Lakers just celebrated the first win for Darvin as an NBA head coach with a record of 1-5. I'm afraid Darvin will follow this path if the Lakers won't make any difference even after this huge win against Denver.
A lot of things will change mid season, but top teams is in the bottom today lol. GSW just had their 3 straight L's.
I guess it's forthcoming, remember before the season started, there were some pressure from the management coming from a a player that wanted to get rid of Nash.

And so he won again, Nash left the Nets, and whatever he says, it's a bad separation in my opinion. Not sure about Ham, the Lakers could have too much faith in him right now.

I think it's a good thing that both sides agree to part ways. KD might still not like Steve Nash but at the same time, it's really a big headache coaching Brooklyn Nets. There are rumors that some teams are trying to take Ime Oduka's services and the Nets is one of those teams. But looking at the current Nets line-up, Oduka might not like it but he can rebuild the team as he likes. I see KD's chances of staying with the Nets the whole season at 50/50. Kyrie Irving always creates drama every season. And Ben Simmons is performing at a mediocre level which is obviously not worth his $35 million salary this season. 


If they successfully acquire Oduka to their team for sure we can see a improve Nets with his addition, also maybe they need to consider trading Irving because he always create drama to their team and that is totally bothering to them and maybe to their team chemistry. To much drama happening is not good so to eliminate this trading him might result good as for sure they can also get a quality piece in exchange to him.


I do hope that if ever they will bring back coach Oduka the respect of those stars will be showing up. I see that both KD and Kyrie are
not willing to be coached by Coach Nash.

It reflects to the outcome of each game that they've played. Both Kyrie and KD are just after with their stats. Maybe if having a new
coach we will see eagerness from both stars to take the lead and win the game.

We will be waiting for any updates regarding to this matter, if Boston will release him and what will be the setup from both franchises.
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November 02, 2022, 06:27:53 AM
What a sad day for Brooklyn and Steve Nash, separated ways early this season after having a 2-6 record, while the Lakers just celebrated the first win for Darvin as an NBA head coach with a record of 1-5. I'm afraid Darvin will follow this path if the Lakers won't make any difference even after this huge win against Denver.
A lot of things will change mid season, but top teams is in the bottom today lol. GSW just had their 3 straight L's.
I guess it's forthcoming, remember before the season started, there were some pressure from the management coming from a a player that wanted to get rid of Nash.

And so he won again, Nash left the Nets, and whatever he says, it's a bad separation in my opinion. Not sure about Ham, the Lakers could have too much faith in him right now.

I think it's a good thing that both sides agree to part ways. KD might still not like Steve Nash but at the same time, it's really a big headache coaching Brooklyn Nets. There are rumors that some teams are trying to take Ime Oduka's services and the Nets is one of those teams. But looking at the current Nets line-up, Oduka might not like it but he can rebuild the team as he likes. I see KD's chances of staying with the Nets the whole season at 50/50. Kyrie Irving always creates drama every season. And Ben Simmons is performing at a mediocre level which is obviously not worth his $35 million salary this season. 


If they successfully acquire Oduka to their team for sure we can see a improve Nets with his addition, also maybe they need to consider trading Irving because he always create drama to their team and that is totally bothering to them and maybe to their team chemistry. To much drama happening is not good so to eliminate this trading him might result good as for sure they can also get a quality piece in exchange to him.
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November 02, 2022, 06:22:09 AM

As for the Lakers' new coach, Darvin Ham's fate rests in Lebron James' hands.  Cheesy

LOL, that sounds hilarious but true, it's been proven in the past already.

Coach David Blatt was fired because of Lebron, and there was a rumor that he wants to get coach Spo fired when he was still with the Heat but the management did not grant his request, so that resulted him leaving the team.
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