Oprah/Beto 2020
I'm not entirely sure that is the best thing for the US but shit it could be a really strong counter to Trump.
Oprah has repeatedly said she's not running but I wonder if she will hit her breaking point in the next couple of years and say fuck it no more Trump.
I wish Bernie was a little more charismatic cause I kinda like his policies.
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I watched a couple of the Beto O'Rourke rallies and he seems likes the kind of guy that could win in the centre of the US. If he could manage to overcome the odds and win his race then he could start to make a reputation outside his state and that might be something to watch in 2024 if the Dems don't have an incumbent in the WH.
What you're seeing is a pretty good actor up on stage.
Hence the big money for his senate run. After he loses, though, and he's already basically lost, what then?
A Senator can seriously run for POTUS, but not a Congressman.
But yeah, sure. He could get up there on stage with all the other wannabes and explain why he's the best for the job.
CNN released a poll a few days ago that has Joe Biden favored to win the nomination at 33%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 13% and Warren at 9%.
Biden would do very well against Trump if he still has enough energy at his age. (He's only 3 years older than Trump, but he looks/acts far older.) Biden isn't stained quite as much by the insane parts of the Democratic party, and he knows how to punch back without looking as crazy as Trump sometimes does. IMO Biden could win a decent chunk of the Republican base from Trump.
I would hope that Democrats have learned their lesson regarding essentially rigging who wins the nomination.
I can see someone like Creepy Porn Lawyer doing something stupid like running as a third party and effectively removing any chance of Trump not getting reelected.
That'd be pretty funny, but it could also happen on the other side. Several Republicans are already calling for a primary challenge, and when they lose, they might take it as far as going independent. Jeff Flake even said that he'd prefer a Democrat over Trump in 2020. It's a huge ordeal to get on the ballot in even one state, but they could target just a few swing states with the specific goal of derailing Trump. I wonder if they're already setting up for it (maybe indicated by public records).
If Flake, or another republican had already set up a formal campaign (or a PAC), it would be a matter of public record, and would make the news, which I haven’t seen.
If the Democrats have another what some believe to be an unfair primary process, we may see a third party democrat run. Some have also said that the Creepy porn lawyer is a republican plant, and if this is true, he will run as a third party (he may also otherwise run).
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It'd be interesting if we had a third party win electoral votes. I've always wanted to see congress pick the president.
Trump could have won with some third party winning a few small states in 2016, and the same is true in both of Obama elections and Bushs 2004 election (and others). I suspect that a political party (and voters) will generally rally around a single candidate, even if not their nominee. If voters believe the president will be chosen by congress they may vote in smaller numbers if they would otherwise vote for that party, so the party that only has one nominee may win states the other party would otherwise win. ...I hope Warren doesn't win the nom, she seems like a fucking train wreck.
But you know it's not "win the nom", it's who the fat old white men in the back room have picked, and told the superdelegates to vote for. You think they've learned anything?
Democrats ARE a fucking train wreck.
I am just glad it won't be Hillary. She tried playing the feminist card, but her personal choices showed she does not mind if she is disrespected by men (meaning her own husband). Her actions didn't seem to match her words.
Hilary is a hypocritical twat and the interview with her and her sexual predator husband last night made me want to puke. How she can defend her husband by saying Lewenski was an adult is stupid. Bill used his power to prey on the women her age is fucking irrelevant unless she was a minor which no one ever claimed. Not to mention Lewinski wasn't the only victim of her husband.
I can't respect a women that stands by her predator husband and then condemns all the other powerful predators and saying women should be heard etc etc.
In terms of morals when it comes to sexual misconduct I personally can't see a whole lot of difference between Bill and Donald but Hilary can justify a difference.
TBH I can see why centre leftist were be turned off by Hilary (even though she won the PV)
Hilary would IMO be the worst possible candidate for the dems in 2020. The dems need a younger (say early 50's) charismatic candidate that can win in the centre of the fucking country.
I think Beto just might put his name in the ring, but I just don't know if he has enough popularity outside Texas to make a real run.
God I hope Warren doesn't win the nom, she seems like a fucking train wreck.
CNN released a poll a few days ago that has Joe Biden favored to win the nomination at 33%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 13% and Warren at 9%.
Biden would do very well against Trump if he still has enough energy at his age. (He's only 3 years older than Trump, but he looks/acts far older.) Biden isn't stained quite as much by the insane parts of the Democratic party, and he knows how to punch back without looking as crazy as Trump sometimes does. IMO Biden could win a decent chunk of the Republican base from Trump.
I don't think that the Democratic establishment will ever let Sanders win the primary, and I suspect that he couldn't win against Trump, though maybe he'd have a better chance than Cory Booker or Kamala Harris. Warren couldn't win.
I can see someone like Creepy Porn Lawyer doing something stupid like running as a third party and effectively removing any chance of Trump not getting reelected.
That'd be pretty funny...
Biden/Creepy 2020!
I am just glad it won't be Hillary. She tried playing the feminist card, but her personal choices showed she does not mind if she is disrespected by men (meaning her own husband). Her actions didn't seem to match her words.
I am not sure who would win the Democratic nomination. Unfortunately the Democrat Party (atleast the Top Runners) have a low probability of winning against Trump in 2020. I personally am against socialism, and some other things mentioned by Sanders and others around him. I also felt they used Dr. Ford as a pawn, and has smeared their image even more.
We all know that Trump winning the election was a long shot, but that just goes to show that a nominee can win if the election is done right. No one thought all the grass roots votes would turn up in 2016 but it happened.
What about all the voter fraud across the country, how does a dead man register to vote, and why is it allowed that illegal immigrants can vote? I am all for immigration but dont feel that someone here illegally should be allowed to vote, or have a say in the US policy. Just my thought.
We all know that Trump winning the election was a long shot, but that just goes to show that a nominee can win if the election is done right. No one thought all the grass roots votes would turn up in 2016 but it happened.
What about all the voter fraud across the country, how does a dead man register to vote, and why is it allowed that illegal immigrants can vote? I am all for immigration but dont feel that someone here illegally should be allowed to vote, or have a say in the US policy. Just my thought.
CNN released a poll a few days ago that has Joe Biden favored to win the nomination at 33%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 13% and Warren at 9%.
Biden would do very well against Trump if he still has enough energy at his age. (He's only 3 years older than Trump, but he looks/acts far older.) Biden isn't stained quite as much by the insane parts of the Democratic party, and he knows how to punch back without looking as crazy as Trump sometimes does. IMO Biden could win a decent chunk of the Republican base from Trump.
I don't think that the Democratic establishment will ever let Sanders win the primary, and I suspect that he couldn't win against Trump, though maybe he'd have a better chance than Cory Booker or Kamala Harris. Warren couldn't win.
I can see someone like Creepy Porn Lawyer doing something stupid like running as a third party and effectively removing any chance of Trump not getting reelected.
That'd be pretty funny, but it could also happen on the other side. Several Republicans are already calling for a primary challenge, and when they lose, they might take it as far as going independent. Jeff Flake even said that he'd prefer a Democrat over Trump in 2020. It's a huge ordeal to get on the ballot in even one state, but they could target just a few swing states with the specific goal of derailing Trump. I wonder if they're already setting up for it (maybe indicated by public records).
It'd be interesting if we had a third party win electoral votes. I've always wanted to see congress pick the president.
CNN released a poll a few days ago that has Joe Biden favored to win the nomination at 33%, followed by Bernie Sanders at 13% and Warren at 9%.
I can see someone like Creepy Porn Lawyer doing something stupid like running as a third party and effectively removing any chance of Trump not getting reelected.
I can see someone like Creepy Porn Lawyer doing something stupid like running as a third party and effectively removing any chance of Trump not getting reelected.
....the crush on Beto, he seems like someone who has a past that may seem a little too hard for some to look over (the whole car accident thing)...
,.... an exercise in what fake news $21M will buy.
Cory Booker is obviously going for it, though he doesn't seem too popular. Kamala Harris is about the same. The media recently developed a crush on Beto O’Rourke, so he's a new possibility. The Democratic establishment is clearly setting up Joe Kennedy to run at some point, but analysts seem to think that he won't run in 2020.
If the election happened ~now, I don't think that Booker, Harris, any Clinton, Cloony, Avenatti, or Zuckerburg could win against Trump. Oprah would stand a chance, but boy would that be sad. Michelle Obama would win. Don't know about O’Rourke.
If the election happened ~now, I don't think that Booker, Harris, any Clinton, Cloony, Avenatti, or Zuckerburg could win against Trump. Oprah would stand a chance, but boy would that be sad. Michelle Obama would win. Don't know about O’Rourke.
I don't understand the crush on Beto, he seems like someone who has a past that may seem a little too hard for some to look over (the whole car accident thing)
I think Michelle Obama just came out and said politics isn't for her (though yet again, she may change her mind in 2 years)
I without a doubt can see Harris, and Booker. But I can't see anyone beating Trump as of right now, some may point to his poll numbers but these have been what his numbers have been since becoming the President (and beating Clinton)
Who stands against Trump?
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Sanders is another old white man with a dream.
Elizabeth Warren's a whip.
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Sanders is another old white man with a dream.
Elizabeth Warren's a whip.
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I predict....
Sanders will run, and get screwed again.
Warren will be questioned by a Senate investigating committee as to the correct methods of tying a captive down on the ground over a live anthill, to establish if she is actually Indian. She'll take the Fifth rather than demonstrate her skill using Hillary.
Booker will run, and all his groping of females will be overlooked.
Beto will run as a Fake Hispanic, and his past buried.
At the end of a primary calculated for high entertainment value, the chosen candidate by the fat old white men in the back room will be heralded as the Chosen one.
Bloomberg returned to the democrats. I am not strong in American elitology. It would be interesting to hear an opinion about him. He is old, but if we exclude it from reasoning, then it seems to me that he fits into one of two possible types for the role of Democratic candidate for nowdays. First is Obama 2.0, and the second is financier with political experience.
I believe Oprah would win if she attempted to run for president. Her fan base is huge from the years she spent on T.V. She is also a billionaire with lots of wealthy friends so the fundraising will be no problem with her. Also a lot of women and minorities will vote for her regardless of political views because she is a black woman.
Easier said than done.
Many had thought Hillary would have had a home run.
I think it'll be
Kamala Harris vs Nikki Haley
Kamala Harris vs Nikki Haley
I believe Oprah would win if she attempted to run for president. Her fan base is huge from the years she spent on T.V. She is also a billionaire with lots of wealthy friends so the fundraising will be no problem with her. Also a lot of women and minorities will vote for her regardless of political views because she is a black woman.
I watched a couple of the Beto O'Rourke rallies and he seems likes the kind of guy that could win in the centre of the US. If he could manage to overcome the odds and win his race then he could start to make a reputation outside his state and that might be something to watch in 2024 if the Dems don't have an incumbent in the WH.
I watched him debate Cruz. He seemed to make Cruz look like an idiot, but I'm not sure how hard that actually is.
I saw that he has a past view of legalization of all drugs. His current stance is just legalize pot.This seems fairly supported here.
I didn't even consider him for the running for president... good call on that one.
Cory Booker is obviously going for it, though he doesn't seem too popular. Kamala Harris is about the same. The media recently developed a crush on Beto O’Rourke, so he's a new possibility. The Democratic establishment is clearly setting up Joe Kennedy to run at some point, but analysts seem to think that he won't run in 2020.
If the election happened ~now, I don't think that Booker, Harris, any Clinton, Cloony, Avenatti, or Zuckerburg could win against Trump. Oprah would stand a chance, but boy would that be sad. Michelle Obama would win. Don't know about O’Rourke.
If the election happened ~now, I don't think that Booker, Harris, any Clinton, Cloony, Avenatti, or Zuckerburg could win against Trump. Oprah would stand a chance, but boy would that be sad. Michelle Obama would win. Don't know about O’Rourke.
I watched a couple of the Beto O'Rourke rallies and he seems likes the kind of guy that could win in the centre of the US. If he could manage to overcome the odds and win his race then he could start to make a reputation outside his state and that might be something to watch in 2024 if the Dems don't have an incumbent in the WH.
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