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I've got nothing but respect for you around here from the times we've crossed paths over the years, so don't take any of this as me being a troll or dick head or personal attack.  Just honest questions and opinions that I'm totally capable of changing.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Are there any more parts of the Constitution of the United States you disagree with?  It's shocking to me how common it has become to just ignore the foundation of the United States.  I understand it's a big world on the internet and maybe that isn't the backbone of your country.  I respect that.

I firmly believe there needs to be a route for everyone to own anything because otherwise, anyone that owns anything is automatically a bad guy. (Applies to everyone)

Any weapons you agree the government should ban or regulate?

I'm no expert obv, but I feel like spending $10k on a 1986 machine gun is really just for fun and anyone that owns one is going to grab something else in pretty much any situation that doesn't involve entertainment.

Are they pricing them out simply by banning any automatics produced post 1980's, or is there some other system pushing up the price? Unless the law is repealed, they'll all be obsolete in what, a few decades?  100 years?  

This is the first 'legalize machine guns' argument I've come across.

Are they pricing them out simply by banning any automatics produced post 1980's, or is there some other system pushing up the price? Unless the law is repealed, they'll all be obsolete in what, a few decades?  100 years?  

I'm no expert obv, but I feel like spending $10k on a 1986 machine gun is really just for fun and anyone that owns one is going to grab something else in pretty much any situation that doesn't involve entertainment.

Any weapons you agree the government should ban or regulate?

Pre-Sample guns are guns that were imported into the U.S. after 1968 but before May 19, 1986. The only people who can own these imported guns are dealers, military, and police agencies. The approved form on Pre Samples will be clearly stamped “Limited to use as a Sales Sample.”

The states can't do shit when he crosses statelines and thus far the FEDS haven't or won't either... FEDS are pretty tight-lipped, which I understand and I appreciate, but holy fuck.

Right now it's entirely a State problem, but the problem is the states stuff stops at their lines and once Joshua Hayden Scott crossed into Oregon outside of the 400 mile state arrest warrant... that was that.

So now, we are attempting to serve him with Child Support paperwork, but it's really hard to do without him having an address.  Keep in mind he was a Level 3 offender in FL, AR, and WI previous to OR... however, he's not been leveled in OR this entire year.


$15k is really high (but that's the price of my next gun).... $10k would do the ticket.  Example:  https://www.armsunlimited.com/Heckler-Koch-223-556-Machine-Gun-Pre86-Dealer-p/hk33k.htm

Fully automatic guns should be legal in America.  It's unconstitutional as fuck to strip and price out these poor folks of their constitutional rights.

The states can't do shit when he crosses statelines and thus far the FEDS haven't or won't either... FEDS are pretty tight-lipped, which I understand and I appreciate, but holy fuck.

Right now it's entirely a State problem, but the problem is the states stuff stops at their lines and once Joshua Hayden Scott crossed into Oregon outside of the 400 mile state arrest warrant... that was that.

So now, we are attempting to serve him with Child Support paperwork, but it's really hard to do without him having an address.  Keep in mind he was a Level 3 offender in FL, AR, and WI previous to OR... however, he's not been leveled in OR this entire year.


$15k is really high (but that's the price of my next gun).... $10k would do the ticket.  Example:  https://www.armsunlimited.com/Heckler-Koch-223-556-Machine-Gun-Pre86-Dealer-p/hk33k.htm

Fully automatic guns should be legal in America.  It's unconstitutional as fuck to strip and price out these poor folks of their constitutional rights.

Yeah, I think that everything relating to handling sex offenders (once they've been convicted) is up to the states. No federal control unless something has crossed state lines, though -- you seem to contest that the federal government is helping at all, even when people are crossing state lines.

Curious on your source for the 15k for getting a legal automatic weapon? Sounds ugh -- well interesting to say the least. I know those are HEAVILY regulated, though they are still allowed.

My understanding is that these lists are created and maintained to keep the public and these peoples victims informed so they can be protected.  This is why you have to say "I'm requesting this information for myself and my family's safety..."  it isn't for harassing purposes as all. 

Also, so people can more easily serve these bad guys paperwork (which is my case... no one is hunting anyone down that has already been convicted or sentenced...)


They only banned automatic weapons for poor people... If you have $15,000 we can make it happen for you...

Most "homies" don't have the privilage of having $15,000 laying around just to registered the gun to their name or their Trust (lulz).

Luckily, homies can afford a $10 item off fucking Wish.com that alters their gun to a fully automatic.

I don't think the registry is intended to help civilians hunt them down since they've already been convicted and sentenced.

the only one you could think of, the ban on automatic weapons.

In 2017, the Gateway Pundit's Cassandra Fairbanks published a claim from an anonymous former Secret Service agent who said that they had to protect female agents from Joe Biden due to "Weinstein level stuff," referring to notable rapist and Democrat, Harvey Weinstein.

"We had to cancel the VP Christmas get together at the Vice President's house because Biden would grope all of our wives and girlfriend's asses," said the former agent, adding "He would mess with every single woman or teen. It was horrible."

The agent also claimed Biden would walk around naked in the VP residence.

"I mean, Stark naked… Weinstein level stuff."

"According to the source, a Secret Service agent once got suspended for a week in 2009 for shoving Biden after he cupped his girlfriend's breast while the couple was taking a photo with him. The situation got so heated, the source told Cassandra Fairbanks, that others had to step in to prevent the agent from hitting the then-Vice President."

Here's why you're reading this now...

While the MSM simply ignored the alleged breast-grabbing incident, Judicial Watch filed a FOIA request...

...and were told the file was destroyed.

In other words, something happened, and the Secret Service just confirmed it.

Via Judicial Watch:

Judicial Watch's FOIA request, made on May 12, 2020, sought:

All records related to a reported incident in 2009 in which a United States Secret Service Agent reportedly was involved in an altercation with, or attempted to strike, then Vice President Joe Biden during a photo opportunity.

The records sought shall include, but not be limited to, witness statements, the Agent's statement, victim's statement, alleged perpetrator's statement, incident reports, investigative reports, communications among USSS personnel regarding the incident, and disciplinary records related to the incident for the Agent in question.

In a July 13, 2020 response to Judicial Watch's request, the Secret Service appeared to confirm that a file on the alleged incident existed at some point, asserting, "[T]here are no responsive records or documents pertaining to your request in our files," because "the above mentioned file(s) has been destroyed" due to "retention standards."  The Secret Service added that, "[n]o additional information is available."  It did not deny the incident had occurred.  In its lawsuit, Judicial Watch intends to test the Secret Service's assertion that it destroyed all records about the incident.

I've not had ANY help from the Federal Government in regards to a sex offender I've been chasing.

I'm in the process of trying to get a guy arrest for molesting his daughter and another little girl (4 & 7 years old).  He's been bouncing statelines (Arkansas to Wisconsin to Oregon).

There is absolutely ZERO federal help.  The guy just moves state to state after it is discovered he isn't actually homeless and avoids being leveled because it's a state program.

Here is the court case:  https://caseinfo.arcourts.gov/cconnect/PROD/public/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?backto=P&case_id=32CR-20-28&begin_date=&end_date=

The arrest warrant is for only a 400 mile radius of Independence County.

The dude bounced from Wisconsin after it was discovered he wasn't actually homeless (bad guys want to avoid giving their address and causing noise).

The bad guy has been living in Eugene Oregon just like your average American....  He's told the Sex Registration people in OR that he lives in a Walmart parking lot, but Walmart assures us that isn't possible due to COVID19 restrictions.  No one cares.


So the idea there is a federal system for this in place is absolutely laughable from my standpoint after actually having experience with this shit...  Here is what they say:



No mention of pending warrants or ANYTHING helpful to protecting the public.  It's disgusting and sad to the core.

Multiple entries, missing information, not updated information and they all basically refuse to do their jobs while this guy could be legit killing kids in Oregon.

It created the federal sex offender registry and created a bunch of new stricter sentencing guidelines for domestic violence and sex related crimes - especially against children

Huh?  Go back and read the conversation you're responding to.

Go right ahead with that, praise your candidate that was responsible for the "3 strikes and you're out" lunacy. The nutty ideas that put hundreds of thousands of minority men in jail for years each.

It is what it is. But look at the upside. After the back room fat cats get rid of Biden, they'll have lots of negatives to pile on him as they give power to the real puppet. Wait, those negatives will keep him from getting elected in the first place...

That's more of a fair point than 'Biden was in politics for decades and nothing changed, therefor if he's president nothing will change'.

I don't see anyone that's involved in any sort of progressive group not voting for Biden at this point though. The only votes up for grab at this point are people that likely aren't going to vote and aren't really paying attention.  

NOT a thing to be proud of.

For Mr. Biden to win support from the young voters who were critical to President Obama’s election victories, according to activists like Jeremy Haile, he will need to show his views have evolved.

“Any Democrat that is interested in gaining support among the current electorate, particularly the progressive civil rights communities, is going to have to say that previous tough-on-crime policies were a mistake,” said Mr. Haile, federal advocacy counsel at the Sentencing Project.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/22/us/politics/joe-bidens-role-in-90s-crime-law-could-haunt-any-presidential-bid.html

The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act from the 90s is one good example.  Not all of it lasted, but most of the big stuff did.

It created the federal sex offender registry and created a bunch of new stricter sentencing guidelines for domestic violence and sex related crimes - especially against children, authorized the federal government to hold local law enforcement accountable for civil rights violations via civil suits,  made a bunch of federal crimes punishable by death, made a bunch of new laws to stop gang related violence, created the 3 strike program and a bunch of other stuff.

Senator Biden wrote it.

Like?  Can you name one lasting change from the federal government?  Only thing I can think of is banning fully automatic rifles from poor people... I don't know how much that helped our country.

The sweeping change that will definitely happen quickly if Biden is elected is the sweeping of Biden out of the White House likely over some health excuse, so the real powers can come out of the closet.

There have been plenty of sweeping changes over the past few decades...