2020 Good for USA dollar Bad for USA stock market - page 2.

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Quote from: Polo7 on December 13, 2019, 04:55:06 PM

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.
That's all according to Precirse calculations.

I am really confused right now about the calculations you are talking about here, what makes you think that the stock market will not do that great for USA and Canada which majority of the citizens does not have a clue, there might be an economic slow down around the world but i am not feeling that slowdown here where i am from. We might have a vocal president but i do not see anything eccentric as of now financially and hopefully we will not face anything like we had during 2008 anytime soon.

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With the impeachment process going on and the news about pushing in New dollars, it'll be a hard year for Dollar. Where as it's a good sign for crypto as more people may put their money into crypto.

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Maybe USD back with lower price after crisis president Trump in united state where he will eliminate from his position, I think cases in United State will give bad effect for USD price and looks will be down, you have keep careful when start for investing and holding your money with USD because situation in their government is not good right now.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 16, 2019, 06:28:54 PM

I think that in 2020 the US already has its plan to resist any economic problem, negative interests may begin to cease due to the fact that they are sure that they do not need to launch the digital dollar, maybe they have already reached an agreement with Libra de Facebook, Mark said he was going to help increase the US economy. On the other hand, China and other countries have taken initiatives to start adopting Blockchain, and China will launch its cryptocurrency long before Libra, as it has prepared all the ground for its stablecoin.

I think that 2020 will be a promising year, and the U.S. already has its plan, they don't leave things halfway, they should have their plan A, Plan B and even plan C.

Yes I agree with you 100%!!
USA is too big to fall they might let the People to fall and be coming broke homeless
But they never let fall down the Banks wall street and government!

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 16, 2019, 05:50:40 PM

Stock market going down I dont think will directly correlate into crypto caps exploding. While that might happen I dont think they are tied at the hip yet. Crypto gains are a snowball, a little upward movement creates media spikes which in turn kicks in fomo and then the intense swings upward happen.

Although there is no variable to corelates the crypto market and stock market still it's noticeable how the stocks went down and crypto is moving up. It's actually a seesaw right now for the btoth market. I guess that the stock traders re slowly getting into digital investments rather than conventional stocks trading as it is hot right now. Let us see for the year 2020 what will be the thing, stock or crypto, but I'll put my bet on crypto.

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I think that in 2020 the US already has its plan to resist any economic problem, negative interests may begin to cease due to the fact that they are sure that they do not need to launch the digital dollar, maybe they have already reached an agreement with Libra de Facebook, Mark said he was going to help increase the US economy. On the other hand, China and other countries have taken initiatives to start adopting Blockchain, and China will launch its cryptocurrency long before Libra, as it has prepared all the ground for its stablecoin.

I think that 2020 will be a promising year, and the U.S. already has its plan, they don't leave things halfway, they should have their plan A, Plan B and even plan C.

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Quote from: kapalmabur on December 16, 2019, 06:41:36 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on December 13, 2019, 04:55:06 PM

2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.

That's all according to Precirse calculations.

experts speculate that by 2020 the stock market will lose a bigger marketcap and will enter the cryptocurrency,
hopefully that will happen so that bitcoin will explode again!

Stock market going down I dont think will directly correlate into crypto caps exploding. While that might happen I dont think they are tied at the hip yet. Crypto gains are a snowball, a little upward movement creates media spikes which in turn kicks in fomo and then the intense swings upward happen.

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Quote from: jhontwis on December 16, 2019, 02:26:26 PM

Will the price of Bitcoin increase if the world enters a major crisis? I'm not sure about that. At the end of 2017, Bitcoin reached a huge peak. During this period, the US was loose in dollar policy. The dollar flowed all over the world and the bitcoin price went up too high.

Crypto go up when Capital is invested into crypto!
Just Before the crisis think about if the stock market crashing.. Then investors lose hope for wall street and stock trading some of them will turn to crypto even if 5% of that heavy money enters into crypto then bitcoin price will go higher then Moon!

Crypto is pretty much similar with wall street trading game there is Same things like fud and fomo so wall streeters will Jump on crypto Easy and using exchangers like binance will be Easy for them!

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Will the price of Bitcoin increase if the world enters a major crisis? I'm not sure about that. At the end of 2017, Bitcoin reached a huge peak. During this period, the US was loose in dollar policy. The dollar flowed all over the world and the bitcoin price went up too high.

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Quote from: kapalmabur on December 16, 2019, 06:41:36 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on December 13, 2019, 04:55:06 PM

2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.

That's all according to Precirse calculations.

experts speculate that by 2020 the stock market will lose a bigger marketcap and will enter the cryptocurrency,
hopefully that will happen so that bitcoin will explode again!

If that happening then the whole stock trading market Cap is many times bigger then whole crypto market Cap... The crypto prices will go up like grazy!!

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Historically, after WW2 there is US stock market bubble burst each 7-10 years apart.
So far we are 11 years from the last one.

Therefore the question is not "if" but "when".

We should remember that Bitcoin came into existence just right after the last one, so then we are not 100% certain about it, but we can presume that BTC just as precious metals or gems will be a safe haven for wealth.

Possibly, the worst case scenario for stocks could be the best scenario for cryptocurrencies regarded as a form of investment.

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Quote from: kapalmabur on December 16, 2019, 06:41:36 AM

Quote from: Polo7 on December 13, 2019, 04:55:06 PM

2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.

That's all according to Precirse calculations.

experts speculate that by 2020 the stock market will lose a bigger marketcap and will enter the cryptocurrency,
hopefully that will happen so that bitcoin will explode again!

Most of users here in crypto currency community predict that by 2020 it's gonna be a huge increase. As we just hoping here and try our luck to gain amount of profit. Also, I don't think that by 2020 will increase tremendously, maybe it will increase but not as much as the last quarter of 2017.

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Quote from: Polo7 on December 13, 2019, 04:55:06 PM

2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.

That's all according to Precirse calculations.

experts speculate that by 2020 the stock market will lose a bigger marketcap and will enter the cryptocurrency,
hopefully that will happen so that bitcoin will explode again!

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What is missing from this is that 2020 could be bad for stocks because of the election. People may not understand what these "precise calculations" are because that has been a topic of discussion here and in many other topics and I hate these vague guesses however I can give you just one reason why it won't be good for the stocks.

Whenever there is elections people don't know who will be elected, when they don't know who will be elected they tend to wait in cash and wait for the elections, when elections happen they reinvest back however elections are in November which means most of the year it will be undecided. Think about Bernie sanders getting the nomination, if something like that happens it would be horrible for many business and great for people, that is why many investors will pull their money out and wait.

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Quote from: Polo7 on December 15, 2019, 04:39:07 AM

Quote from: livingfree on December 14, 2019, 05:01:26 PM

Isn't it the economy that will dictate the value of one's currency? if the country will gain more debt, this will affect everything on that country including the stocks market. That might be the reason why it's going to be down soon because investors and huge companies that has shares with companies that will be affected by the crisis will pull out.

Almost everything will go down at least.

Nope!
Currency and economy is 2 Different things.
When USA economy Goes down its great time to Buy so its not Bad u can make profit out of this.

I'm no economics expert but I know that these two things are different but I'm explaining it to you that it's the factor that makes the value of one's currency. Like, if the currency of USD starts to fall because of the crisis that it's facing. On the investor side, yes that's a good opportunity to buy in.

But on the others perspective, that's a huge problem that they have to face because everyone is pulling out their investments because of the bad situation that the US' facing while people like you and me sees the that it's time to buy.

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Quote from: Kprawn on December 15, 2019, 10:55:36 AM

You have to remember that all these Trade Wars between China vs USA were done to strengthen the US economy and also the USD. Donald Trump's

idea is to reduce imports from other countries, when those goods and services can be rendered locally. It was supposed to create more job

opportunities in the US, but it also has the opposite affect, with a lot of companies having to close their doors, due to the import restrictions placed

on items they needed for production. China also restricted exports to the US for certain goods that could only be sourced in China or be sourced

very cheap. Roll Eyes

The Dollar is also losing a lot of it's buying power, because it is being printed like toilet paper. Tongue

If currency is printed a lot then guess what currency been collected by various ways and burned.
One of the most Popular ways is to collect taxes and burn Some% of this taxes.
But If you burn eliminate currency then the currency value Will Go Higher and inflation will go down.
If you borrow USA dollars then you must pay Back with USA dollars... So in high debt situation Everybody is looking for USA dollars.

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You have to remember that all these Trade Wars between China vs USA were done to strengthen the US economy and also the USD. Donald Trump's

idea is to reduce imports from other countries, when those goods and services can be rendered locally. It was supposed to create more job

opportunities in the US, but it also has the opposite affect, with a lot of companies having to close their doors, due to the import restrictions placed

on items they needed for production. China also restricted exports to the US for certain goods that could only be sourced in China or be sourced

very cheap. Roll Eyes

The Dollar is also losing a lot of it's buying power, because it is being printed like toilet paper. Tongue

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Quote from: Mometaskers on December 14, 2019, 05:40:33 AM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 13, 2019, 07:11:16 PM

Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming. What goes up must come down right. Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying. Not worth adding any extra into the market. I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

I agree with your assessment. At this point we should be focusing on protecting gains while also preparing for a stock-market crash to snag assets for cheap. We don't know what the extent of it will be but I think it's prudent to assume it'll happen sooner than later.

Precisely, we need yo foc on how to protect out gains. Well, it is somehow needed for each and everyone of us here in crypto currency community. As the market continue its not in good condition, we have nothing to do about it but to wait and hoping that it may recover as wish by many here in digital world.

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Quote from: livingfree on December 14, 2019, 05:01:26 PM

Isn't it the economy that will dictate the value of one's currency? if the country will be gain more debt, this will affect everything on that country including the stocks market. That might be the reason why it's going to be down soon because investors and huge companies that has shares with companies that will be affected by the crisis will pull out.

Almost everything will go down at least.

Nope!
Currency and economy is 2 Different things.
When USA economy Goes down its great time to Buy so its not Bad u can make profit out of this.

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Isn't it the economy that will dictate the value of one's currency? if the country will be gain more debt, this will affect everything on that country including the stocks market. That might be the reason why it's going to be down soon because investors and huge companies that has shares with companies that will be affected by the crisis will pull out.

Almost everything will go down at least.

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