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Quote from: Falconer on November 17, 2021, 12:02:51 PM

Portugal did not lose hope of qualifying for the playoff, but it really depend on who the opponent is because it is certain that both countries have the same desire to qualify for the world cup.

I only hope that Ronaldo can participate in the world cup once again as a player because it is very possible that he retires to represent his country after the world cup is over. This is the last chance for Ronaldo to play in the world cup and he will work hard to get his country through this time. We'll just have to wait and see who they are up against after the draw.

According to bookmakers, the chances of Portugal and Italy to get to the World Cup are about the same - 1.65 (hopefully the draw won't bring them together in the final match.) But taking into account the fact that everything is decided by drawing lots, for some reason it seems to me that "luck" will be on the side of these teams and FIFA. We will know the first pairs on November 26, when the draw of the first stage will take place.

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The qualifiers are set up a bit differently now - 12 teams will be split into 3 pots. Each team will play a semifinal and a final, so from 3 pots there will be 3 winners that will secure qualifications to the World Cup.

Since each game will be a one-off, the room for error is nonexistent. Also - the probability to play another big team in the final is really high.

Bottom line - I'm really glad that Croatia was able to qualify directly. This is way harder than before.

Yes, Croatia should real promise the last world cup and I am happy for them too. But I am really sad about Portugal not qualifying directly. As this is Cristiano Ronaldo's last world cup I think deserved better from his own team.

While it is sad at the end of the day they have no one other than themselves to blame, they only needed two draws during their last two matches to get their ticket to the world cup and they were unable to do this under circumstances that were very favorable to them.

And what should be really disappointing is not only that they failed to qualify directly to the world cup but how this happened, they allowed a goal at the last minutes of the most important game of the qualifiers, which tells me they let their guard down as they felt they were already qualified to the world cup, and we will have to see if Portugal can get their ticket to the world cup, something not easy when there are many good teams which could beat them any given day.

Such things happen, didn’t Italy fail to qualify for the last World Cup and later they became European champions?
Portugal should also have lost in the match against Ireland, so this defeat against Serbia is not too much of a surprise either, the better team deservedly won.
If Portal does not raise the level of their game and aggression, they will not go to the World Cup.
As for Ronaldo, given how he plays at the moment, it is not impossible for him to perform at the next World Cup in 5 years, and I think that is his wish.

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It's a shame that teams like Italy and Portugal had to enter the play-off zone, both of whom were defending champions at the previous Euros. With this result, maybe only one of them gets a ticket to the World Cup or maybe neither. Because right now the dark horse teams are very likely to put up a strong fight too, I personally really doubt that because I was one of the people who bet for Italy and Portugal to win in yesterday's match.

I don't understand what all this fuss about Portugal playing play-off. Is it a new thing and I don't think it is official anymore. They are used to playing play-offs either the old or new Portugal, even in Europe cup they also use to qualify as a best looser. As a Big fan, I am not surprise about Portugal playing playoffs. Because at the end, they will qualify and start hailing the goat. it just happened that Portugal Coach was tactical clueless against Serbia. He started the game with a defensive approach. Just imagining with the like of C.Ronaldo, Bernado Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Diogo Jota, Joao Felix, Andre Silva and he just be packing the bus against Serbia.

Honestly, I was also kind of shocked that the Portugal coach took this approach against Serbia. because I don't think anyone gave any chance to Serbia winning that match and even I thought Serbia will lose and Portugal will be the winner very easily, but their coach was not like to defensive in his approach and the team suffers the consequences.

Actually this is a blunder that must be paid dearly because in this match they only need to achieve a draw with Serbia because with this their position will remain and will not be displaced by Serbia.
but in this match they were too happy with the results previously received against the previous teams so that during the interview before the match started even Fernando Santos said that his team will still target three points in this life and death match.
and now everything has happened and portugal must undergo additional matches to be able to follow serbia to qatar later

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It's a shame that teams like Italy and Portugal had to enter the play-off zone, both of whom were defending champions at the previous Euros. With this result, maybe only one of them gets a ticket to the World Cup or maybe neither. Because right now the dark horse teams are very likely to put up a strong fight too, I personally really doubt that because I was one of the people who bet for Italy and Portugal to win in yesterday's match.

I don't understand what all this fuss about Portugal playing play-off. Is it a new thing and I don't think it is official anymore. They are used to playing play-offs either the old or new Portugal, even in Europe cup they also use to qualify as a best looser. As a Big fan, I am not surprise about Portugal playing playoffs. Because at the end, they will qualify and start hailing the goat. it just happened that Portugal Coach was tactical clueless against Serbia. He started the game with a defensive approach. Just imagining with the like of C.Ronaldo, Bernado Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Diogo Jota, Joao Felix, Andre Silva and he just be packing the bus against Serbia.

Honestly, I was also kind of shocked that the Portugal coach took this approach against Serbia. because I don't think anyone gave any chance to Serbia winning that match and even I thought Serbia will lose and Portugal will be the winner very easily, but their coach was not like to defensive in his approach and the team suffers the consequences.

Portugal has a clear chance of qualifying for the world they will likely play any of unseeded countries like Turkey, Czech, North Macedonia, Poland, Ukraine and Austria, I believe non of the above mentioned countries could any pose a serious threat or challenge to their qualifying for the world cup come March 2022 when the final playoffs will take place, though it is going to be a tough match, however, had it been they didn't make it up playoff stage it would have an outright non participation in the world, for there is hope for their country.

Playing against those countries Portugal will feel more confidence, but these days the progress from teams were big. We don't know who is performing and what is happening with the match at times. None could've thought of Portugal losing to Serbia. Some might've taken rest not watching the match believing Portugal will make it. At the final minute things changed. So, it is good to play with confidence than over confidence.

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The qualifiers are set up a bit differently now - 12 teams will be split into 3 pots. Each team will play a semifinal and a final, so from 3 pots there will be 3 winners that will secure qualifications to the World Cup.

Since each game will be a one-off, the room for error is nonexistent. Also - the probability to play another big team in the final is really high.

Bottom line - I'm really glad that Croatia was able to qualify directly. This is way harder than before.

Yes, Croatia should real promise the last world cup and I am happy for them too. But I am really sad about Portugal not qualifying directly. As this is Cristiano Ronaldo's last world cup I think deserved better from his own team.

While it is sad at the end of the day they have no one other than themselves to blame, they only needed two draws during their last two matches to get their ticket to the world cup and they were unable to do this under circumstances that were very favorable to them.

And what should be really disappointing is not only that they failed to qualify directly to the world cup but how this happened, they allowed a goal at the last minutes of the most important game of the qualifiers, which tells me they let their guard down as they felt they were already qualified to the world cup, and we will have to see if Portugal can get their ticket to the world cup, something not easy when there are many good teams which could beat them any given day.

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Quote from: waelov on November 17, 2021, 07:58:59 AM

I mean, we waited impatiently for the Argentina and Brazil summit, especially after the first leg was stopped..but the winds came with what ships did not desire. Neymar missed and did not play against Messi. a Goaless tie and the net was not shaken,
a rough match in which 42 errors were counted in total.. the goals were absent from A summit in which the yellow cards fell (7) and it could have been in a red card.. In the end.
Argentina reached the World Cup 😊 and this is what is important now..

Wasn't able to watch game because it was too late for me. From stats, seems it was typical dirty South American game

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Meanwhile Uruguay continue to struggle, they lost to Bolivia 3:0, it's their 4th loss in the row. It's alway difficult to play against Bokivia on high altitude with limited oxygene. But Uruguay are just 2 points behind Colombia and Peru, who are 4th-5th.

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There was a really interesting game last night in the South America World Cup Qualifiers. Argentina hosted Brazil. They were already very comfortable in their group as they were tearing their opponents apart one by one. Argentina got so many draws though but Brazil won 11 of their 13 group games. And both of these teams are still unbeaten. In this game, I wasn't expecting Argentina to lose and they didn't surprise me. But I'd have liked to see goals in this game. This was the boring part of it.

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The Netherlands completes the European team that has qualified for the 2022 world cup final in Qatar after their last match was a 2-0 win over Norway, the additional three points put them two points clear of second-placed Turkey with 21 points, Turkey completes the country who must enter the play-off zone to claim a place in the Qatar world cup.

This year fifa has changed the world cup play-off system, in the past fifa imposed home and away matches, but this year fifa has made changes, fifa divides three slots,, i don't understand what is the purpose of fifa making all these changes, if anyone knows please answer yeah..

all football lovers are confused by the policy taken by FIFA regarding the rules for the play-offs for the European zone world cup qualifying matches, this is a new rule set by the world football association by distributing 2 pots where each contains 4 teams and they will play until the final maybe for me it's a bit silly about with these rules we don't know what they are doing with the format that no longer applies to home and away matches which are usually applied to the match for the last ticket to the world cup

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Quote from: cryptofrka on November 17, 2021, 06:32:41 AM

The qualifiers are set up a bit differently now - 12 teams will be split into 3 pots. Each team will play a semifinal and a final, so from 3 pots there will be 3 winners that will secure qualifications to the World Cup.

Since each game will be a one-off, the room for error is nonexistent. Also - the probability to play another big team in the final is really high.

Bottom line - I'm really glad that Croatia was able to qualify directly. This is way harder than before.

In fact, Croatia has always been very successful in the additional qualifiers and each time they won and qualified for the World Cup, since 1998.
However, these qualifications will be the most difficult so far, and it is certainly good that Croatia has avoided it.
Can you imagine the match in the second round between Italy and Portugal, and their big fight for the World Cup, which is not impossible? Cheesy

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on November 17, 2021, 11:40:55 AM

Portugal has a clear chance of qualifying for the world they will likely play any of unseeded countries like Turkey, Czech, North Macedonia, Poland, Ukraine and Austria, I believe non of the above mentioned countries could any pose a serious threat or challenge to their qualifying for the world cup come March 2022 when the final playoffs will take place, though it is going to be a tough match, however, had it been they didn't make it up playoff stage it would have an outright non participation in the world, for there is hope for their country.

Portugal did not lose hope of qualifying for the playoff, but it really depend on who the opponent is because it is certain that both countries have the same desire to qualify for the world cup.

I only hope that Ronaldo can participate in the world cup once again as a player because it is very possible that he retires to represent his country after the world cup is over. This is the last chance for Ronaldo to play in the world cup and he will work hard to get his country through this time. We'll just have to wait and see who they are up against after the draw.

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Quote from: W Jr. on November 16, 2021, 03:15:43 AM

England beat San Marino 10-0. incredible score. San Marino is a weak team, of course. But professionally conceding 10 goals in an international match must have been a very bad feeling. Scotland beat Denmark 2-0. However, Denmark should have played with a slightly weaker squad as they have won all their previous matches. Poland unexpectedly lost 2-1 at home to Hungary. However, his ranking did not change.

Yup... After playing vs Albania and San Marino, Harry Maguire must be so sad when he realized that international break is over and he’ll be back playing the league under a Solskjaer squad again. Cheesy

But yeah... I hope those two matches rejuvinates Kane. Would love to see him perform well under Conte.

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It's a shame that teams like Italy and Portugal had to enter the play-off zone, both of whom were defending champions at the previous Euros. With this result, maybe only one of them gets a ticket to the World Cup or maybe neither. Because right now the dark horse teams are very likely to put up a strong fight too, I personally really doubt that because I was one of the people who bet for Italy and Portugal to win in yesterday's match.

I don't understand what all this fuss about Portugal playing play-off. Is it a new thing and I don't think it is official anymore. They are used to playing play-offs either the old or new Portugal, even in Europe cup they also use to qualify as a best looser. As a Big fan, I am not surprise about Portugal playing playoffs. Because at the end, they will qualify and start hailing the goat. it just happened that Portugal Coach was tactical clueless against Serbia. He started the game with a defensive approach. Just imagining with the like of C.Ronaldo, Bernado Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Diogo Jota, Joao Felix, Andre Silva and he just be packing the bus against Serbia.

Honestly, I was also kind of shocked that the Portugal coach took this approach against Serbia. because I don't think anyone gave any chance to Serbia winning that match and even I thought Serbia will lose and Portugal will be the winner very easily, but their coach was not like to defensive in his approach and the team suffers the consequences.

Portugal has a clear chance of qualifying for the world they will likely play any of unseeded countries like Turkey, Czech, North Macedonia, Poland, Ukraine and Austria, I believe non of the above mentioned countries could any pose a serious threat or challenge to their qualifying for the world cup come March 2022 when the final playoffs will take place, though it is going to be a tough match, however, had it been they didn't make it up playoff stage it would have an outright non participation in the world, for there is hope for their country.

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It was a really meaningful night for Turkey in the Group G. But I won't be saying the same thing for Norway too. Turkey had to win to qualify for the playoffs. Actually in case Netherlands beat Norway, Turkey would still qualify for the playoffs even if they get a draw. And Turkey defeated Montenegro by 2-1 away and secured their place. There was even a possibility for Turkey to join the World Cup directly if Norway beat Netherlands somehow. The score was 0-0 for a very long period of time. But in the last ten minutes, Netherlands scored two goals and defeated Norway by 2-0. They have joined the World Cup directly and Norway were eliminated from the qualifiers. Let's see whether Turkey will be successful in the playoffs and join the main tourney also.

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Quote from: kro55 on November 17, 2021, 10:29:40 AM

Honestly, I was also kind of shocked that the Portugal coach took this approach against Serbia. because I don't think anyone gave any chance to Serbia winning that match and even I thought Serbia will lose and Portugal will be the winner very easily, but their coach was not like to defensive in his approach and the team suffers the consequences.

If I am not mistaken, then this is generally the first victory of Serbia over Portugal in their history of confrontations. I can say that the Portuguese played the last two matches very frivolously, without a proper attitude, and we all see the result well. Of course, Portugal has chances to come out, but they have brought matters to unnecessary additional play-offs, in which anything is possible, because only one match will be played there.

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Quote from: hahay on November 17, 2021, 08:50:39 AM

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I mean, we waited impatiently for the Argentina and Brazil summit, especially after the first leg was stopped..but the winds came with what ships did not desire. Neymar missed and did not play against Messi. a Goaless tie and the net was not shaken,
a rough match in which 42 errors were counted in total.. the goals were absent from A summit in which the yellow cards fell (7) and it could have been in a red card.. In the end.
Argentina reached the World Cup 😊 and this is what is important now..

I'm personally not too surprised by this goalless draw, because teams in this region of South America even though their players are star players, they often find it difficult to score. I sometimes watch their matches live and in my assumption they only want goals from individual effort and not teamwork, but when a team from South America plays against a team from Europe they are more likely to work as a team. Anyway, Brazil and Argentina have already qualified for the World Cup and that's how it should be.

That's right, they prefer personal things like dribbling themselves.
but indeed this match was quite exciting and both teams appeared open even though there were no goals created and it was impressed playing in the middle of the field because it was rare for the ball to reach the goal of both teams.
On the other hand I highlight the Brazilian goalkeeper, in which Alisson Becker was one of the important players who managed to deny Argentina a number of chances because he made several saves and that was pretty good I think.

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It seems that Montenegro has its own opinion regarding the order of teams in this group Grin

Turkey already conceded a goal in the 4th minute and it looks like it is in a very difficult situation. Now I understand that the draw between Montenegro and the Netherlands was not an accident. But in any case, if Norway loses, it will remain in third place.

Whenever a team scores early, the final result will likely be the opposite Tongue

Turkey made it to the play-offs but could they succeed with a draw containing Italy and Portugal!

I would not say that this is an ironclad rule, but it really works often. I often make such bets when the underdog scores a goal first and the chances of winning the favorite grow, it is really profitable at a distance. But sometimes failures happen - like at Euro 2020, when Germany in the end could not defeat Hungary and the match ended in a draw (I lost that time).

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Quote from: hahay on November 17, 2021, 05:03:25 AM

It's a shame that teams like Italy and Portugal had to enter the play-off zone, both of whom were defending champions at the previous Euros. With this result, maybe only one of them gets a ticket to the World Cup or maybe neither. Because right now the dark horse teams are very likely to put up a strong fight too, I personally really doubt that because I was one of the people who bet for Italy and Portugal to win in yesterday's match.

I don't understand what all this fuss about Portugal playing play-off. Is it a new thing and I don't think it is official anymore. They are used to playing play-offs either the old or new Portugal, even in Europe cup they also use to qualify as a best looser. As a Big fan, I am not surprise about Portugal playing playoffs. Because at the end, they will qualify and start hailing the goat. it just happened that Portugal Coach was tactical clueless against Serbia. He started the game with a defensive approach. Just imagining with the like of C.Ronaldo, Bernado Silva, Bruno Fernandes, Diogo Jota, Joao Felix, Andre Silva and he just be packing the bus against Serbia.

Honestly, I was also kind of shocked that the Portugal coach took this approach against Serbia. because I don't think anyone gave any chance to Serbia winning that match and even I thought Serbia will lose and Portugal will be the winner very easily, but their coach was not like to defensive in his approach and the team suffers the consequences.

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Quote from: hahay on November 17, 2021, 08:50:39 AM

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I mean, we waited impatiently for the Argentina and Brazil summit, especially after the first leg was stopped..but the winds came with what ships did not desire. Neymar missed and did not play against Messi. a Goaless tie and the net was not shaken,
a rough match in which 42 errors were counted in total.. the goals were absent from A summit in which the yellow cards fell (7) and it could have been in a red card.. In the end.
Argentina reached the World Cup 😊 and this is what is important now..

I'm personally not too surprised by this goalless draw, because teams in this region of South America even though their players are star players, they often find it difficult to score. I sometimes watch their matches live and in my assumption they only want goals from individual effort and not teamwork, but when a team from South America plays against a team from Europe they are more likely to work as a team. Anyway, Brazil and Argentina have already qualified for the World Cup and that's how it should be.

Different with with Europe almost country make team work how to created goal but South America many goal created from individual player, most different player quality in one team make some player have show his individual skill to make goal, but looks not interested with match on South America and many countries from there can't talk more on world cup last few season, always from Europe as champion on world cup after Brazil dominance on 2002.

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Quote from: waelov on November 17, 2021, 07:58:59 AM

I mean, we waited impatiently for the Argentina and Brazil summit, especially after the first leg was stopped..but the winds came with what ships did not desire. Neymar missed and did not play against Messi. a Goaless tie and the net was not shaken,
a rough match in which 42 errors were counted in total.. the goals were absent from A summit in which the yellow cards fell (7) and it could have been in a red card.. In the end.
Argentina reached the World Cup 😊 and this is what is important now..

There were 42 fouls combined in Argentina's 0-0 draw against Brazil, and there were 7 total yellow cards, so I can only imagine the players' temperament. Now Argentina remain unbeaten after 27 games. They might reach that record position if they continue. Furthermore, both Argentina and Brazil are undefeated in world cup qualifiers, meaning they can make many changes in the remaining games. Lionel Messi is going to feature in another World Cup. Qatar 2022 will be Messi's fifth World Cup.

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the Portugal coach is so confident that he’s given a guarantee that his team will be there at next year’s World Cup, and I hope he comes good on that guarantee or he’ll be out of a job.

He has nothing to lose by making that guarantee. If they don't qualify, he'll lose his job anyway, regardless of whether or not he'd made the guarantee. I do think though that if you are going to say something like that, it could be counter-productive... but at least he's said it before the draw is made. If they got a tough-ish opponent like Czech Republic, and he made that statement, it would really galvanise the opposition to want to prove him wrong. Saying it before the draw is made makes it less personal... unless he's suggesting that Portugal can beat all these other teams easily, including Italy. Shocked

Well, it may not be so much personal but it is a really bold statement to make under such circumstances. You know, Portugal is not in very good shape right now, So, I think his comment can give the team some moral boost or something. And I really hope that is the case.

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