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The best times of Spain are gone along with Xavi Iniesta. Unfortunately, that team cannot be returned. The Spaniards need to attract more young players so that they gain experience. And perhaps at the next World Cup they will declare themselves to the fullest. I do not expect any enchanting from them. games both in qualifying matches and at the World Cup.

Spain have good young players in the squad but they need time. You can't create a team like Xavi-Iniesta overnight. Fati, Garcia, Torres still under 21 and Olmo, Oyarzabal, Reguilon, Ceballos, Rodri, Ruiz, Traore, Asensio etc. under 24. Spain squad is pretty young when you look at it. This generation can get big trophies in a couple of years if they play together more. Next 10 years we will see these players in Spain.

If you have young players, you have to wait a year or two.The chemistry of the team must be formed.The footballers must understand each other very well.Maybe it will not play very well this year, but I believe there will be a great spanish team in the coming years.
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That can be said about the other teams as well. Look at France and Germany. Also Netherlands and Italy. These teams are also struggling now, because their legendary players have retired. It will take some time for the youngsters to develop team bonding and cohesion. But their performance is still OK. I will not write off Spain just because of two poor performances. They didn't had enough time to train, due to the pandemic.
It still takes time for countries that have won the World Cup to form their young players...
Germany, Spain, France are countries with a good reputation in the world cup but this time most of the players are dominated by young players who have not had a good experience. btw, I am surprised with Denmark, whether this time they can threaten another big teams.
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Before the UEFA qualifiers started, everyone thought that Spain is the strongest team from this region. However, their performance till now has been disappointing. First they were held to a draw by Greece and yesterday also Georgia took the lead before the half time, although the Spanish players scored two goals towards the end to get full three points from the match. Sweden is still dominating Group B, and the match between Sweden and Spain (2nd September) is going to be very interesting.
The best times of Spain are gone along with Xavi Iniesta. Unfortunately, that team cannot be returned. The Spaniards need to attract more young players so that they gain experience. And perhaps at the next World Cup they will declare themselves to the fullest. I do not expect any enchanting from them. games both in qualifying matches and at the World Cup.

That can be said about the other teams as well. Look at France and Germany. Also Netherlands and Italy. These teams are also struggling now, because their legendary players have retired. It will take some time for the youngsters to develop team bonding and cohesion. But their performance is still OK. I will not write off Spain just because of two poor performances. They didn't had enough time to train, due to the pandemic.
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The best times of Spain are gone along with Xavi Iniesta. Unfortunately, that team cannot be returned. The Spaniards need to attract more young players so that they gain experience. And perhaps at the next World Cup they will declare themselves to the fullest. I do not expect any enchanting from them. games both in qualifying matches and at the World Cup.

Spain have good young players in the squad but they need time. You can't create a team like Xavi-Iniesta overnight. Fati, Garcia, Torres still under 21 and Olmo, Oyarzabal, Reguilon, Ceballos, Rodri, Ruiz, Traore, Asensio etc. under 24. Spain squad is pretty young when you look at it. This generation can get big trophies in a couple of years if they play together more. Next 10 years we will see these players in Spain.
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Before the UEFA qualifiers started, everyone thought that Spain is the strongest team from this region. However, their performance till now has been disappointing. First they were held to a draw by Greece and yesterday also Georgia took the lead before the half time, although the Spanish players scored two goals towards the end to get full three points from the match. Sweden is still dominating Group B, and the match between Sweden and Spain (2nd September) is going to be very interesting.
The best times of Spain are gone along with Xavi Iniesta. Unfortunately, that team cannot be returned. The Spaniards need to attract more young players so that they gain experience. And perhaps at the next World Cup they will declare themselves to the fullest. I do not expect any enchanting from them. games both in qualifying matches and at the World Cup.
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Since the draw against Greece, I was a little worried about the Spanish game. And it turned out to face Georgia who was much weaker than Greece,
still Spain played disappointingly and even conceded first in the first half. Finally in the second half Spain managed to score 2 goals, but the winning
goal scored by Daniel Olmo had to be obtained in 92 minutes. This proves Spain has a hard time facing Georgia, even though as you said Spain is
one of the strongest teams in the world. This is a lesson for Luis Enrique to improve his team play in the next match.
Personally, I don’t think there is any need to worry about Spain and they will surely end up first in the group.
Other favorites are also struggling, look at Croatia, Portugal etc.
Beginning of each qualification is difficult due to new players in the team and the time needed to play and prepare the team.
The quality of the team, the experience and the routine ultimately decide the winner.
Weaker teams can surprise in one match but do not have the quality to constantly play at a higher level.

What you said calmed me a little, it seems I am too worried about Spain's appearance. Even though as you have said, it is possible that some
new players on the team need playing time to adapt. I admit that some of the other favorite countries are also having difficulties, because they
have only played two matches. Hopefully in the next match Spain and some favorite countries can show their quality by playing more consistently.
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A long time ago, when it was Serbia and Montenegro, or before with Yugoslavia, then they had an impressive squad actually.

Are you talking about the 1998 FIFA World Cup? Back then they had an impressive squad and they performed really well. During the group stage, they managed to held Germany to a draw, with Dragan Stojković scoring one of the goals. And back then, they had a number of star players in addition to Stojković. Dejan Stanković was another player who put up an impressive performance during the world cup. However, Yugoslavia lost to Netherlands in the PQF.
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A long time ago, when it was Serbia and Montenegro, or before with Yugoslavia, then they had an impressive squad actually.
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Huh On which bet did you lose money yesterday? You must be a very bad gambler if you've lost money yesterday Cheesy
 I  placed 15 bets on Stake.com yesterday and I only lost one single bet (Liechtenstein Asian Handicap +3) so I feel sorry for your loss but you can't speak for all gamblers if you are a loser.

It wasn't me who lost, many of my friends lost at the early handicap, even in the running ball hahaha

Maybe tonight I'll try my luck in Serbia. Hahaha

Right now I only play Roulette on Rollbit, it is very different from Roulette at other online casinos. You have to try it.

It's just that payments via Litecoin are not available at this time. I hope Rollbit will provide withdrawals and deposits via Litecoin soon.
Many of your friends?  Huh On which outcomes did they bet precisely? It's really surprising to hear that. Your friends should stop betting on european soccer if they are so bad at betting on it in my opinion. They should have been scammed by someone or maybe they're lying to you to avoid making you jealous if they're not bad bettors usually.
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Before the UEFA qualifiers started, everyone thought that Spain is the strongest team from this region. However, their performance till now has been disappointing. First they were held to a draw by Greece and yesterday also Georgia took the lead before the half time, although the Spanish players scored two goals towards the end to get full three points from the match. Sweden is still dominating Group B, and the match between Sweden and Spain (2nd September) is going to be very interesting.
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Huh On which bet did you lose money yesterday? You must be a very bad gambler if you've lost money yesterday Cheesy
 I  placed 15 bets on Stake.com yesterday and I only lost one single bet (Liechtenstein Asian Handicap +3) so I feel sorry for your loss but you can't speak for all gamblers if you are a loser.

It wasn't me who lost, many of my friends lost at the early handicap, even in the running ball hahaha

Maybe I'll try my luck in Azerbaijan VS Serbia

Right now I only play Roulette on Rollbit, it is very different from Roulette at other online casinos. You have to try it.

It's just that payments via Litecoin are not available at this time. I hope Rollbit will provide withdrawals and deposits via Litecoin soon.
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what do you think : are there also teams in the qualifiers that lose on purpose because they don't want to go to qatar?   Wink

This is just ridiculous. Why should anyone refuse to go to Qatar? If the COVID 19 pandemic is a reason, then it doesn't make any sense. The World Cup is still some one and half years away and the chances are that the pandemic will be under complete control by then. And World Cup is an event which occurs only once every 4 years. I don't think that anyone in a good state of mind would refuse a chance to take part in this event.

It's ridiculous I agree. Any sports professional who doesn't agree with what's going on in Qatar should just make their stand known and then boycott with the team or captain.

Besides. What happened in Brazil world cup was as bad if not worse and everyone still went to play. That is politics unfortunately, there is no team now I think that will refuse on principle of humanity.
legendary
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If Ukraine found first goal in first half the match couldn't finish like that. They paid the price of a late goal, there is nothing you can do about it when you make penalty in last minute. I think draw was a fair result for this match, because Finland played good defense and they deserved one point. I'm glad the match finished 1-1 and my bet won. Thanks to both teams players. Smiley

It is not like Ukraine scored the goal initially in the match and then dominated the proceedings. Júnior Moraes scored the goal in the 80th minute and then they conceded the penalty (which was converted to goal by Teemu Pukki) in the 89th minute. So their lead lasted for a grand total of 9 minutes. France is on top with 4 points and both Finland and Ukraine now have 2 points from 2 matches. But for Ukraine, the next match is against a weak Kazakhstan.
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From favorites Spain, Italy, France, Germany won't lose. I don't expect surprise results for top teams.

Odds are too low to play for teams against weaker opponents. Some don't even give odds because other results are impossible.

The top teams did not perform well yesterday, although the other favorites had really weak opponents today! I think that today you can make express bets on the favorites - France, Spain, Germany, Italy...

All of favorites won, how did they perform bad? They all got 3 points, I was right.

Spain 2-1
Italy 2-0
France 2-0
Germany 1-0
England 2-0
Poland 3-0
Sweden 3-0
Hungary 3-0
Denmark 8-0

Germany had a tough win.Romania fought well.Favorites won right but bad results for those who bet for the score. France, Germany was not good enough.Expectations were that they could find more scores.Win bets could have been placed, but we have to be more careful for score bets.
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How it didn't go well for gamblers? Everybody I know won yesterday. All favorite bets came. Our group had huge wins, every single player I saw online said they made money.
some people may not choose home away and tie (1 x 2) bets, but instead play Handicap bets.

that's why I say they play well in the team and the game but it doesn't look good for the gamblers (I mean here the gamblers who play handicaps)
Huh On which bet did you lose money yesterday? You must be a very bad gambler if you've lost money yesterday Cheesy
 I  placed 15 bets on Stake.com yesterday and I only lost one single bet (Liechtenstein Asian Handicap +3) so I feel sorry for your loss but you can't speak for all gamblers if you are a loser.
legendary
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Pretty lucky in the end but this was really realistic of both matches to go over 1.5 goals,should have gone over in first half
O most all favorites won today except Ukraine in the end

If Ukraine found first goal in first half the match couldn't finish like that. They paid the price of a late goal, there is nothing you can do about it when you make penalty in last minute. I think draw was a fair result for this match, because Finland played good defense and they deserved one point. I'm glad the match finished 1-1 and my bet won. Thanks to both teams players. Smiley
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How it didn't go well for gamblers? Everybody I know won yesterday. All favorite bets came. Our group had huge wins, every single player I saw online said they made money.
some people may not choose home away and tie (1 x 2) bets, but instead play Handicap bets.

that's why I say they play well in the team and the game but it doesn't look good for the gamblers (I mean here the gamblers who play handicaps)
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Unexpected for me results of Spain.  This is one of the strongest teams, but it is hard to take the victory from Georgia. It was a very strange match with Georgia scoring first.
France at least played well this time. Scored two goals, but there was also a moment with Mbappe. It's like the most expensive footballer, but he can't score a penalty.

Since the draw against Greece, I was a little worried about the Spanish game. And it turned out to face Georgia who was much weaker than Greece,
still Spain played disappointingly and even conceded first in the first half. Finally in the second half Spain managed to score 2 goals, but the winning
goal scored by Daniel Olmo had to be obtained in 92 minutes. This proves Spain has a hard time facing Georgia, even though as you said Spain is
one of the strongest teams in the world. This is a lesson for Luis Enrique to improve his team play in the next match.


Personally, I don’t think there is any need to worry about Spain and they will surely end up first in the group.
Other favorites are also struggling, look at Croatia, Portugal etc.
Beginning of each qualification is difficult due to new players in the team and the time needed to play and prepare the team.
The quality of the team, the experience and the routine ultimately decide the winner.
Weaker teams can surprise in one match but do not have the quality to constantly play at a higher level.
legendary
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Personally, I feel bad for Georgia. They didn't deserved to lose today. They played well today and one mistake on last minutes cost them a lot.
RIP, Moldova, 8:0 loss against Denmakrk.
My picks fore evening games.
Ukraine [email protected] vs Finland
Sweden [email protected] vs Kosovo.
Poland vs Andora over 4.5 @2.40
Bulgaria vs Italy over 2.5 @1.70
1.67 for Sweden to win against Kosovo  Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy
Does someone have an explanation for this odds please? It was the same for almost all bookmakers https://www.betexplorer.com/soccer/world/world-cup-2022/kosovo-sweden/tlPbxArq/ (archive)
I have been really surprised by this odds so I took it of course, but I still don't understand how bookies could have predicted that Sweden had only 60% chances to win against Kosovo (one of the smallest country in the world)  Huh Did I miss something?
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they only performed well in the match and got 3 points.

That's the whole point of the post. Huh

But not for the Gamblers, they risk a lot of money by choosing top teams like Spain, Italy, France, Germany and England. But in the end they (the gambling players) didn't get a win, only the team got the win.

Suggestion: Be careful in choosing the odds, it could be that you are trying to be trapped by the dealer of odds

How it didn't go well for gamblers? Everybody I know won yesterday. All favorite bets came. Our group had huge wins, every single player I saw online said they made money.
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