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Topic: [204 GH/s] yourbtc.net closing it's doors on 2011-12-08 - page 10. (Read 19910 times)

legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1011
I've just discovered that I have the same problem with "en.wikipedia.org" so I started hunting for other bad sites.  Most sites I tried worked fine, including: "www.google.com", "slashdot.org", "www.gamefaqs.com", "www.bbc.co.uk".  I found that "www.ebay.co.uk" and "senseis.xmp.net" were also problematic so your site is not alone.  I know that networking problems are most commonly a computer settings, router, or modem problem, but I think at this point I suspect my ISP has screwed up.

Thanks for your help anyway, hopefully I'll resolve this issue soon and be back with you.

EDIT:  Yes, my ISP (Virgin Media, UK) is having major problems.  The problems are nationwide too!  I've set up a quick proxy for browsing but will wait until things are back to normal rejoining this pool.  I'm sorry if I caused you much trouble and thank you for the help.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1011
Got the same result when sending a ping to your machine from my server. I can reach you without a problem from my connection @home.

I'am afraid, i can't offer a solution until tomorrow. My server hosting company has to investigate this issue.

If you have a dynamic ip adress, try to reconnect your internet to get a new ip.

It's possible that my ISP gave me a new ip address in the night and that simply asking for a new one (keeping the modem off for long enough) would get things working again.  However, it does seem strange that yourbtc.net can only handle certain ip addresses.

I'm using another pool at the moment but I'll be back when I can get onto yourbtc.net without trickery.
full member
Activity: 142
Merit: 100
I'm not currently able to connect to the pool (yourbtc.net:8999, s15747378.onlinehome-server.info:8999) or the site (either http or https), nor do I get a response when pinging yourbtc.net.  Any idea on the cause?  Is this a common problem?


Hi teukon,

sounds like a routing problem. Server and all services are up and running.

Could you try to connect your miner to 87.106.84.25:8999 as a workaround?

If you are on irc you find me on #yourbtc / irc.freenode.net to figure this out.

Best regards,

Chris

No joy.  Substituting 87.106.84.25 for yourbtc.net make no difference to site access, pool access, or ping.  Everything looks dead.  I'm fully able to use pretty much any other site.  Furthermore, the site and pool were working fine for me when I signed up and I got in about 12 hours of good mining.

I'm afraid I'm not on irc.

Thanks for the help.

EDIT: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/yourbtc.net says the site is fine.  Also, I'm able to ssh into a machine with a different ip address and ping yourbtc.net.  I just can't ping it from any of the machines behind my router/modem/ip address.  I've change no router or network settings in the last 12 hours that I'm aware of.

My ip address is 86.30.188.162 if that's of any help.


Got the same result when sending a ping to your machine from my server. I can reach you without a problem from my connection @home.

I'am afraid, i can't offer a solution until tomorrow. My server hosting company has to investigate this issue.

If you have a dynamic ip adress, try to reconnect your internet to get a new ip.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1011
I'm not currently able to connect to the pool (yourbtc.net:8999, s15747378.onlinehome-server.info:8999) or the site (either http or https), nor do I get a response when pinging yourbtc.net.  Any idea on the cause?  Is this a common problem?


Hi teukon,

sounds like a routing problem. Server and all services are up and running.

Could you try to connect your miner to 87.106.84.25:8999 as a workaround?

If you are on irc you find me on #yourbtc / irc.freenode.net to figure this out.

Best regards,

Chris

No joy.  Substituting 87.106.84.25 for yourbtc.net make no difference to site access, pool access, or ping.  Everything looks dead.  I'm fully able to use pretty much any other site.  Furthermore, the site and pool were working fine for me when I signed up and I got in about 12 hours of good mining.

I'm afraid I'm not on irc.

Thanks for the help.

EDIT: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/yourbtc.net says the site is fine.  Also, I'm able to ssh into a machine with a different ip address and ping yourbtc.net.  I just can't ping it from any of the machines behind my router/modem/ip address.  I've change no router or network settings in the last 12 hours that I'm aware of.

My ip address is 86.30.188.162 if that's of any help.
full member
Activity: 142
Merit: 100
I'm not currently able to connect to the pool (yourbtc.net:8999, s15747378.onlinehome-server.info:8999) or the site (either http or https), nor do I get a response when pinging yourbtc.net.  Any idea on the cause?  Is this a common problem?


Hi teukon,

sounds like a routing problem. Server and all services are up and running.

Could you try to connect your miner to 87.106.84.25:8999 as a workaround?

If you are on irc you find me on #yourbtc / irc.freenode.net to figure this out.

Best regards,

Chris
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1011
I'm not currently able to connect to the pool (yourbtc.net:8999, s15747378.onlinehome-server.info:8999) or the site (either http or https), nor do I get a response when pinging yourbtc.net.  Any idea on the cause?  Is this a common problem?
full member
Activity: 142
Merit: 100
The method handles transaction fees as is as long as you determine B correctly. It needs to be the total block reward corresponding to a share's getwork.

Did some homework after Meni's feedback, in order to determine B (block reward + transaction fees) correctly when a share was submitted:

bitcoind version 0.5 will get a "getmemorypool" call, which is capable to get the btc amount of transaction fees, if the current network block would be solved at that moment.

So the distribution of transaction fees will be included into DGM on yourbtc.net as soon as it's technically possible.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1011
Hi,

I've recently run into difficulties with my main pool and am in the market for a new one (I have 720 MH/s).  I thought I'd start here (for the DGM of course).

I was also thrown by the line
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[your payout] = [Loyality Bonus pool balance] / [all monthly valid shares] * [your monthly valid shares]
and although not as bad as the proportional reward system (due to the fixed round length of one month) it is definitely rather ugly.  I'm glad to see that this issue has already been raised.

I have many thoughts and questions but I'll keep them to myself for now, read around a bit more, and see how things go.
full member
Activity: 142
Merit: 100
    [your payout] = [Loyality Bonus pool balance] / [all monthly valid shares] * [your monthly valid shares][/li][/list]
    This part I don't like. What's the point using a hopping-proof method and then adding a hoppable feature?

    The method handles transaction fees as is as long as you determine B correctly. It needs to be the total block reward corresponding to a share's getwork.

    You can add namecoins by having separate Bitcoin Score and Namecoin Score, where the namecoin reward according to the method is converted to bitcoins before entering the confirmed balance.

    Agreed, thats a quick and dirty offer to stay competitive. Will work on this, as soon mm is enabled in order to offer a fair and transparent longterm solution.
    donator
    Activity: 2058
    Merit: 1054
    In order to gain full advantage of merged mining we will gather all nmc and trade them for you into btc as a service.
    This part I like...

    [your payout] = [Loyality Bonus pool balance] / [all monthly valid shares] * [your monthly valid shares][/li][/list]
    This part I don't like. What's the point using a hopping-proof method and then adding a hoppable feature?

    The method handles transaction fees as is as long as you determine B correctly. It needs to be the total block reward corresponding to a share's getwork.

    You can add namecoins by having separate Bitcoin Score and Namecoin Score, where the namecoin reward according to the method is converted to bitcoins before entering the confirmed balance.
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    Greetings,

    we are working on merged mining as well. Until we get a working solution, i'am donating 15 BTC to our miners to make sure you won't have a disadvantage.

    In order to gain full advantage of merged mining we will gather all nmc and trade them for you into btc as a service.
    Payout will happen in form of our so called Loyality Bonus. This is how it works:

    Everytime the pool gains additional income like transaction fees from solved blocks or merged mining earnings it will be gathered in our Loyality Bonus pool balance.

    • We gather all additional earnings in a Loyality Bonus pool balance.
    • At the end of every month, the whole pool balance is payed to the pool and we start at zero pool balance again.
    • Payout is calculated propotional on monthly shares:
      [your payout] = [Loyality Bonus pool balance] / [all monthly valid shares] * [your monthly valid shares]

    I hope you like it!

    Cheers,

    Chris
    donator
    Activity: 2058
    Merit: 1054
    I may sound like idiotic but? Is pure PPS stil best for slow miners with slow hashrates (under 100mhash). There are some PPS pools with 0%fee and they share full 50BTC/shares. So that should be best option? Right? Or do we get more advantage with DGM in long run? Im not sure if i understadn even single thing about DGM?
    0% fee PPS (and I'm talking about real PPS, not fakes) would have been best, but in fact it's too good to be true - in pools that have this this is a promotional offer that can't be sustained over the long run. Many PPS operators don't completely understand the risks involved and their pool is at risk of bankruptcy or switching to a safer method. But if a pool does manage to offer PPS with low fees it's better than any other method with the same fees.

    But it doesn't matter too much. 100 MH/s is less than what some people have but it's high enough that you don't have to worry about share-based variance. DGM, PPLNS etc. will be perfectly fine and I think this pool is better than currently existing PPS offers. Larger pools have an advantage though.

    You don't really need to understand the specifics of DGM. There are good methods and bad methods, and all good methods (such as DGM) will give you pretty much the same payout over the long run.
    sr. member
    Activity: 305
    Merit: 250
    Trust but confirm!
    I may sound like idiotic but? Is pure PPS stil best for slow miners with slow hashrates (under 100mhash). There are some PPS pools with 0%fee and they share full 50BTC/shares. So that should be best option? Right? Or do we get more advantage with DGM in long run? Im not sure if i understadn even single thing about DGM?
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    News Update:
    Our pretty young pool just solved block no. 4 a few hours ago. The average payout per share on block 148102: 0.00003789 BTC.

    The pool is running a decent hashrate right now, so the average time to solve a block decreased.

    We even got some new features:

    * Worker Idle Notification
    Can be adjusted on every single worker now.

    * Payout Notification
    Will be send everytime you receive BTC.

    * Payout Address Change Notification
    For improved security.

    * Average Hashrate
    Access over User Statistics -> Worker Lifetime

    * Improve Geomap
    Even more colors now. If you like other colors, let me know.

    You are welcome to join us!
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    Our lucky strike goes on! Another block bites the dust.

    The average payout value per share and of round 3 was 0.00003795 BTC.

    We can still handle a bunch of new miners, i would love to see some new miners soon.
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    I need your feedback for further pool improvements. Please give feedback if you like to:
    http://yourbtc.net/content/upcoming-feature-poll-what-do-you-see-next

    Still giving away free Google Music Invites if you are interested:
    http://yourbtc.net/content/google-music-beta-invite-giveaway
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    We got lucky today and solved a block within a quick round.

    Double Geometric Method is working really great so far!

    The average payout value per share and of round 2 was 0.00008079 BTC.
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    Everyday another suprise:
    Server seems to be offline atm. I've already called my server hoster, they are "investigating" that issue... Hope it will brb soon!

    Update:
    Problem is fixed. Seems like the whole datacenter was unreachable for about 2 hours.
    full member
    Activity: 142
    Merit: 100
    Oops! Just realised I'd gone from looking at my User Estimated Payout to the pool Estimated Payout chart. All is good :-)

    Would you mind explaining what this means on the pool website:
    Rnd. Share Val.: 0.00025292

    Yeah sure, here is a quick example:
    We just started a new block and gathered 120,000 shares and the estimated pool payout at this time is 23 BTC.
    23 / 120000 = 0.00019167

    It should be called "current average value per share in this round" but that lenght doesn't fit into the header.

    I have deceided to remove it yet, because the value would only be true if we find a block at the moment the value is displayed.

    The final value per share can be viewed in your personal account under "Previous Rounds" when we know exactly how many shares were needed to find a block.
    newbie
    Activity: 54
    Merit: 0
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    I notice the Estimated Payout graph totally changed over the last 24ish hours; previously it showed a slowly dropping expected value when my miners were idle (which I think made sense with the payout calculation method), but now it's like it's averaged over time and doesn't make as much sense to me. Are you able to explain how it works now? Thanks!
    Oops! Just realised I'd gone from looking at my User Estimated Payout to the pool Estimated Payout chart. All is good :-)

    Would you mind explaining what this means on the pool website:
    Rnd. Share Val.: 0.00025292

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