Topic: [204 GH/s] yourbtc.net closing it's doors on 2011-12-08 - page 9. (Read 19910 times)

Ouch!  I didn't realise this stales situation was so sensitive to the end users configuration.  My current round data is:

Current Speed	Valid Shares	Invalid Shares	Efficiency
720.00 MHash/s	8,161	175	97.90%

So I've only dropped about 2%.  I'm using phoenix with an aggression of 12 for what it's worth.

My statistics current round: Valid Shares 14,026 Invalid Shares 995 Efficiency 93.38%
Hm.. I'm using the latest cgminer if it helps.. Any ideas?

Thanks for your input teukon, i just tweaked some settings on the server. Hope to see some improvements now.

I'll keep an eye on it.

I'm perfectly happy with receiving only bitcoins.


Interesting.  The thing I noticed was that after merged mining came online, there were significant rejects when moving to a new Bitcoin block.  The Namecoin longpolls don't seem to generate any significant rejects for me.  There was a predictable 10 second period of rejects when moving to a new Bitcoin block (this has now shrunk to only 6 seconds it seems but I have few data points to go on).

It's a bit upsetting to lose my 99.9% efficiency average but I'll live.

Yes, i can confirm this fact. The pool runs on 97% efficiency compared to non-mm on 99%+.

I guess, the longpoll on nmc blocks identifies stale shares on the nmc blockchain. It happens more often yet, since the nmc difficulty is still very low.

The good news is, that these shares should still be valid on the nmc blockchain. I guess the psj engine doesn't make a difference on both chains right now.

I'am sure we see some more improvements soon!

Hey, sorry for the delay but just got home.

My plan right now, is to implement the namecoin distribution on double geometric method like Meni Rosenfeld suggested:
"You can add namecoins by having separate Bitcoin Score and Namecoin Score, where the namecoin reward according to the method is converted to bitcoins before entering the confirmed balance."

To keep things simple for you, the pool exchanges the nmc into btc and put it into the btc balance. I will have to do some work on the web frontend to make trade exchange rate etc. visible for you.

If there is someone who really really want's the nmc payed out as they are, i would like to hear some feedback.

Also noticed that we jumped to 55GH/s after merged mining was implemented 

Just noticed that my efficiency has dropped ~1-2% as well. Is this because of merged mining?

While the rejects are certainly a problem I would much rather use a 98% efficient merged mining pool than a 99.6% efficient normal Bitcoin pool.

It would be nice to have an option to automatically trade namecoins for bitcoins and add to account.

And yes, the same issue with rejected shares as stated above.

Good news.

I'd like to send shadders some BTC for the hard work, do you have a link for me?

There appears to be some kind of delay but this is probably a clock sync issue.  I'm more concerned by the gaps of rejects I seem to now be getting.  Here's some data (09:45 -> 10:45 UTC, 2011-10-25):
{
My miner's state:
  09:46:19 - Disconnected (Presumably you are brining merged mining online here)
  09:48:01 - Connected
  09:48:01 - NMC 24299
  09:51:03 - New job
  09:57:15 - New job
    (all shares here are rejected)
  09:57:25 - BTC 150559
  10:03:25 - New job
  10:05:20 - New job
  10:05:21 - NMC 24301
  10:07:25 - New job
    (all shares here are rejected)
  10:07:36 - BTC 150560
  10:08:07 - New job
  10:15:23 - New job
  10:18:38 - New job
  10:20:00 - New job
  10:24:40 - New job
  10:24:40 - NMC 24306
  10:33:11 - New job
  10:36:05 - New job
    (all shares here are rejected)
  10:36:15 - BTC 150562
  10:37:50 - New job
  10:39:49 - New job
  10:39:53 - New job
  10:39:54 - NMC 24309

Bitcoin block explorer:
  09:50:23, 150559
  10:04:36, 150560
  10:23:32, 150561
  10:32:47, 150562
  10:39:22, 150563

Namecoin block explorer:
  09:45:45, 24300
  10:00:55, 24301
  10:03:27, 24302
  10:07:29, 24303
  10:14:26, 24304
  10:16:42, 24305
  10:18:39, 24306
  10:28:47, 24307
  10:36:06, 24308
  10:37:52, 24309
  10:40:58, 24310
}

Is this all as it should be?

Also, when you do start applying DGM to the Namecoin blocks, will there be namecoins in my account to withdraw or will they be automatically traded for bitcoins.  I'd guess there are a fair few miners who don't care much for namecoins and so some options for payout would be nice:

1) Donate all earned namecoins to the pool.
2) Withdraw earned namecoins to a namecoin wallet.
3) Have the pool convert the namecoins to bitcoins and added to my Bitcoin balance (with the pool taking a fixed fee for this service - 5% say).

shadders was very fast in fixing the last issues.

That means, we got Merged Mining enabled now!

All blocks found this month still will be added to the loyality pool. Starting on 1st nov NCM earnings will be distributed on double geometric method exactly like BTC.

More details about that soon.

I'm glad to hear the issue is known and am looking forward to a working merged mining system.

I have addressed a similar issue to the poolserverj dev here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.591274

We switched back to our stable non-mm enviroment, these side effects should not appear anymore.

Added 5 BTC in our bonus pool to compensate your non merged mining earnings yet. I have faith in shadders, that he will release a working mm psj version soon

I'm slighly confused by the new work pushes I'm currently receiving.  Some new jobs come with a BTC block number and they correlate quite well with the blocks reported by the Bitcoin block explorer.  However, I can't find a clean correspondence between new jobs and Namecoin blocks and this worries me.  Is this normal?  I really would expect to receive a new job for every new Namecoin block.

For 21:00 -> 22:00 UTC (2011-10-24)

My received new jobs:
  03:38 (BTC 150495)
  08:43 (BTC 150496)
  18:43
  23:07 (BTC 150497)
  33:07
  43:08
  46:48 (BTC 150498)
  56:48
  57:31 (BTC 150499)

Bitcoin block explorer:
  02:57, 150495
  08:00, 150496
  22:24, 150497
  44:08, 150498
  56:31, 150499

Namecoin block explorer:
  09:51, 24197
  16:29, 24198
  24:25, 24199
  32:00, 24200
  34:29, 24201
  40:03, 24202
  45:29, 24203
  45:59, 24204
  50:10, 24205
  55:45, 24206

Thoughts?

Switched to yourbtc from deepbit the other day during the DDOS outages. So far, it's looking great Seems like I'm making more BTC here than with deepbit even after donating a little bit. Cheers for the hard work.

The reason I ask is that my estimated loyalty bonus is not increasing as quickly as my estimated payout.  I was simply after the formulae used to arrive at these two figures.

Thanks.

Exactly, thats the way it works at the moment. You get a proportional peace of cake at the end of month. Everyday single share which was submitted this month will count.

Please note, thats a workaround, to offer a replacement for the currently missing merged mining feature.
The final goal is to include payout for merged mining rewards and of course transaction fees on found block into the double geometric method.

May I ask how the "estimated loyalty bonus" is calculated?  Should I expect my estimated loyalty bonus to increase as I add more shares to my total for the month?

No problem, i'am glad to get at least some feedback

Glad to see you back.

BTW:
If you have any feature request feel free to open a ticket under Pool Development & Support.
I try to make everything possible, to make it everyone comfortable using this pool.