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April 17, 2017, 03:12:10 PM
#68

Id like to thank this community for assisting me in recovering my stolen funds, I honestly thought I would just be ignored or only get 1 or 2 replies. But I am overwhelmed by the support offered by some of the people in this forum. Hopefully when this is over I can offer a few of you a reward.
We should really start a community for busting gambling scams.
It already exists!


If it hadn't for our continuous efforts and of course support of fellow DT members like Lauda and other's,I don't think they'd even take his accusations seriously.
I was contacted by Satoshidice after I called out their scam and they saw the necessity to move to a new domain.


Next up : Powerbet.io
Powerbet is beaten, I have everything. The only problem is that victims are brain washed and do not want to spend anything. They are happy to throw a ton of Bitcoins after scams, but they are not willing to spend some more to enforce their claim.
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 02:56:25 PM
#67

Id like to thank this community for assisting me in recovering my stolen funds, I honestly thought I would just be ignored or only get 1 or 2 replies. But I am overwhelmed by the support offered by some of the people in this forum. Hopefully when this is over I can offer a few of you a reward.
We should really start a community for busting gambling scams.If it hadn't for our continuous efforts and of course support of fellow DT members like Lauda and other's,I don't think they'd even take his accusations seriously.

Next up : Powerbet.io
hero member
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April 17, 2017, 02:48:35 PM
#66
The OP has now responded to us and sent us a bitcoin address for the original deposit (15btc) to be returned to, which our accounting team will do tomorrow, so we  consider this case closed.
Maybe he will remember what he said:

Id like to thank this community for assisting me in recovering my stolen funds, I honestly thought I would just be ignored or only get 1 or 2 replies. But I am overwhelmed by the support offered by some of the people in this forum. Hopefully when this is over I can offer a few of you a reward.


Regarding regulatory – sportsbet.io is regulated by Curaçao license as stated in https://sportsbet.io/about/gaming-licence, and we do have regulatory requirements to follow, which we continue to do so.
How does Curacao eGaming regulate you and where are these regulatory requirements stated?
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
#65
Hi TrumpD,
We’re sorry, but we will not go into details of how we (or other bitcoin casinos and sportsbooks) detect potential double spenders or our security procedures.
That is not rocket science.100 other open source tools are available to detect double spends.

Further we take every incident on a case by case basis and thoroughly investigate everything; one of those things include the player being able to pass KYC. 
Why not only allow players who pass KYC to play on your site to avoid all the hassle ? Makes more sense ? That would ensure you only have trusted,verified players using your website.

The OP has now responded to us and sent us a bitcoin address for the original deposit (15btc) to be returned to, which our accounting team will do tomorrow, so we  consider this case closed.

Cheers,
sportsbet.io
Let him update here if he needs to get 21 bitcoins as the title of the thread.Regardless,case isn't closed completely,the feedback stay's as a warning.
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 01:28:05 PM
#64
I don't think red tag should be taken out,I have seen sportsbet online when complainant was posting in their official thread he should posted that he will give answer in a proper time  instead of ignoring the complainant post,just when the issue escalate that he posted here,you have a very bad excuse in my opinion.
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 12:08:13 PM
#63

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I get you, but I think you misunderstood my question. In this case if the OP had lost 5btc, would you refund 10btc instead of 15btc? And btw his transaction confirmed so you cannot prove doublespend. Saying he did, does not prove he did.

Regards.

Hi TrumpD,

We’re sorry, but we will not go into details of how we (or other bitcoin casinos and sportsbooks) detect potential double spenders or our security procedures.

Further we take every incident on a case by case basis and thoroughly investigate everything; one of those things include the player being able to pass KYC. 

The OP has now responded to us and sent us a bitcoin address for the original deposit (15btc) to be returned to, which our accounting team will do tomorrow, so we  consider this case closed.

Cheers,
sportsbet.io
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April 17, 2017, 11:02:18 AM
#62
UPDATE: apologies for the late reply, we are human as well, and enjoyed the Easter break.

OP poster has been notified of repeated serious ID verification failure and following double spending fraudulent behavior, we have decided to close his account and offered to return his deposit of 15 BTC.

Sportsbet.io indeed allows instant betting at 0 confirmation deposits on blockchain for player experience (except for known double spending patterns) and instant withdrawals after 3 confirmations of initial deposit.  As any other BTC gambling operator offering the same, can attest to, there is a significant amount of abuse attempts around and we are simply preventing fraud here.

In a perfect world, we don't like having to KYC our players, except when absolutely necessary, and especially when certain players groups make multiple accounts and attempt to fraud us, through double spending.

We believe the experience for the player is best when they can play instantly with 0 confirmations, however, we then need to mitigate fraud, which includes knowing our customer and ensuring there are no multi accounters.

Regarding regulatory – sportsbet.io is regulated by Curaçao license as stated in https://sportsbet.io/about/gaming-licence, and we do have regulatory requirements to follow, which we continue to do so.

Best regards,
sportsbet.io

Would you have offered a full refund if the OP had lost some of his deposit?

You keep claiming a double spent transaction without showing any proof. It isn't true simply because you say so, back it up.

At least the Op gets their deposit back if your offer is genuine. Other bettors beware though, this can happen to you to whenever they feel like it.


Hi TrumpD,

If a multi accounting fraudulent player lost their chips and committed double spending, then the deposit wouldn't have confirmed on the blockchain and therefore there would be nothing to refund.

Cheers,
sportsbet.io



I get you, but I think you misunderstood my question. In this case if the OP had lost 5btc, would you refund 10btc instead of 15btc? And btw his transaction confirmed so you cannot prove doublespend. Saying he did, does not prove he did.

Regards.
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 10:18:12 AM
#61
UPDATE: apologies for the late reply, we are human as well, and enjoyed the Easter break.

OP poster has been notified of repeated serious ID verification failure and following double spending fraudulent behavior, we have decided to close his account and offered to return his deposit of 15 BTC.

Sportsbet.io indeed allows instant betting at 0 confirmation deposits on blockchain for player experience (except for known double spending patterns) and instant withdrawals after 3 confirmations of initial deposit.  As any other BTC gambling operator offering the same, can attest to, there is a significant amount of abuse attempts around and we are simply preventing fraud here.

In a perfect world, we don't like having to KYC our players, except when absolutely necessary, and especially when certain players groups make multiple accounts and attempt to fraud us, through double spending.

We believe the experience for the player is best when they can play instantly with 0 confirmations, however, we then need to mitigate fraud, which includes knowing our customer and ensuring there are no multi accounters.

Regarding regulatory – sportsbet.io is regulated by Curaçao license as stated in https://sportsbet.io/about/gaming-licence, and we do have regulatory requirements to follow, which we continue to do so.

Best regards,
sportsbet.io

Would you have offered a full refund if the OP had lost some of his deposit?

You keep claiming a double spent transaction without showing any proof. It isn't true simply because you say so, back it up.

At least the Op gets their deposit back if your offer is genuine. Other bettors beware though, this can happen to you to whenever they feel like it.


Hi TrumpD,

If a multi accounting fraudulent player lost their chips and committed double spending, then the deposit wouldn't have confirmed on the blockchain and therefore there would be nothing to refund.

Cheers,
sportsbet.io
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April 17, 2017, 09:32:22 AM
#60
UPDATE: apologies for the late reply, we are human as well, and enjoyed the Easter break.

OP poster has been notified of repeated serious ID verification failure and following double spending fraudulent behavior, we have decided to close his account and offered to return his deposit of 15 BTC.

Sportsbet.io indeed allows instant betting at 0 confirmation deposits on blockchain for player experience (except for known double spending patterns) and instant withdrawals after 3 confirmations of initial deposit.  As any other BTC gambling operator offering the same, can attest to, there is a significant amount of abuse attempts around and we are simply preventing fraud here.

In a perfect world, we don't like having to KYC our players, except when absolutely necessary, and especially when certain players groups make multiple accounts and attempt to fraud us, through double spending.

We believe the experience for the player is best when they can play instantly with 0 confirmations, however, we then need to mitigate fraud, which includes knowing our customer and ensuring there are no multi accounters.

Regarding regulatory – sportsbet.io is regulated by Curaçao license as stated in https://sportsbet.io/about/gaming-licence, and we do have regulatory requirements to follow, which we continue to do so.

Best regards,
sportsbet.io

Would you have offered a full refund if the OP had lost some of his deposit?

You keep claiming a double spent transaction without showing any proof. It isn't true simply because you say so, back it up.

At least the Op gets their deposit back if your offer is genuine. Other bettors beware though, this can happen to you to whenever they feel like it.
copper member
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April 17, 2017, 09:09:28 AM
#59
OP poster has been notified of repeated serious ID verification failure and following double spending fraudulent behavior, we have decided to close his account and offered to return his deposit of 15 BTC.

Sportsbet.io indeed allows instant betting at 0 confirmation deposits on blockchain for player experience (except for known double spending patterns) and instant withdrawals after 3 confirmations of initial deposit.  As any other BTC gambling operator offering the same, can attest to, there is a significant amount of abuse attempts around and we are simply preventing fraud here.

In a perfect world, we don't like having to KYC our players, except when absolutely necessary, and especially when certain players groups make multiple accounts and attempt to fraud us, through double spending.

We believe the experience for the player is best when they can play instantly with 0 confirmations, however, we then need to mitigate fraud, which includes knowing our customer and ensuring there are no multi accounters.

Regarding regulatory – sportsbet.io is regulated by Curaçao license as stated in https://sportsbet.io/about/gaming-licence, and we do have regulatory requirements to follow, which we continue to do so.

Best regards,
sportsbet.io

Great. I retire what I said earlier in the thread here and will continue to promote you through my bets. Cheers.
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 09:05:10 AM
#58
UPDATE: apologies for the late reply, we are human as well, and enjoyed the Easter break.

OP poster has been notified of repeated serious ID verification failure and following double spending fraudulent behavior, we have decided to close his account and offered to return his deposit of 15 BTC.

Sportsbet.io indeed allows instant betting at 0 confirmation deposits on blockchain for player experience (except for known double spending patterns) and instant withdrawals after 3 confirmations of initial deposit.  As any other BTC gambling operator offering the same, can attest to, there is a significant amount of abuse attempts around and we are simply preventing fraud here.

In a perfect world, we don't like having to KYC our players, except when absolutely necessary, and especially when certain players groups make multiple accounts and attempt to fraud us, through double spending.

We believe the experience for the player is best when they can play instantly with 0 confirmations, however, we then need to mitigate fraud, which includes knowing our customer and ensuring there are no multi accounters.

Regarding regulatory – sportsbet.io is regulated by Curaçao license as stated in https://sportsbet.io/about/gaming-licence, and we do have regulatory requirements to follow, which we continue to do so.

Best regards,
sportsbet.io
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April 17, 2017, 08:47:54 AM
#57
It's a shame that "licensed" operators are stooping to this level. Fraudulent activity is naturally going to cause accounts to be suspended and should void ALL bets, not simply winnings but even losing. Very few casinos actually just close accounts and refund deposits, it's so tempting to just take everything from the moral high ground.

If you catch a thief, it is illegal for you to take his wallet. One wrong does not give you a Free Pass at one wrong.

Lesson learnt for all: check terms and conditions always. Always ask and confirm with customer support before depositing anything if you need to verify at some point.
legendary
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April 17, 2017, 08:24:40 AM
#56
I think sporstbet.io just doesn't seems to care about their reputation anymore, I wonder why they don't give everyone a proper explanation on this issue?

We should just be careful they will come out a new site and a new name this kind of script and hosting will only cost them 1 Bitcoin they can come out with many more and do the same thing to again just like what happen to this guy so beware or better stop gambling.
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April 17, 2017, 06:12:33 AM
#55
I see the Gambling section flooded with gamblers sponsoring sportsbet.io

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-supremo-free-premiums-7-consecutive-weeks-in-profit-1580020
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-and-premium-tips-all-sports-with-medium-and-high-oddssummary-1492w-432l-1435334
3. etc..

I suggest some responsible member to suggest these punters to stop sponsoring them as they(sportsbet.io) has nothing to lose now so they will eventually run away with their money, they will probably not rat you for 0.1 or 1 btc , but as soon as you make a big deposit they will scam you.

so, any member who is in DT should warn punters not to sponsor scam sites.

regards,
chevas


This will be my last week sponsoring them which ends on Thursday morning, if they don't clear up their name. I am sorry to quit such a good partnership (they paid me more than 3 BTC so far without problems) but until things become good enough again, this is my last week sponsoring them. If you wanna get my tips from Thursday on unfortunately you will have to pay a fee to know my bets. Cheers everyone.
sr. member
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April 17, 2017, 02:31:48 AM
#54
I think sporstbet.io just doesn't seems to care about their reputation anymore, I wonder why they don't give everyone a proper explanation on this issue?
legendary
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April 16, 2017, 12:08:32 PM
#53
This is not the first time that any gambling site have ignored to send the bitcoin of a user and blocked his account and not replying to any of his messages. This all is happening when a user deposit high btc and when they are won they get this problem. That is why it is not recommend to invest high btc as this will create scam for their site
But i think we all of the community users should do something so that next time no one can do this type of fraud
legendary
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April 16, 2017, 11:34:32 AM
#52
So this is what it boiled down to,
 ->Sportsbet.io doesn't wanna return his bitcoins.
 ->They don't consider it important to reply here anymore or update us when they're totally surviving on this community.
 ->We as a community should come together and fight such casinos.
 ->Please spread awareness about sports.bet.io everywhere possible.Let all gambling blogs know about their scam.
 ->Please share the message in gambling discussion boards.
legendary
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April 16, 2017, 10:29:01 AM
#51
I haven't been following this completely. But just saw the trust as negative for the sportsbet account on this forum. Did they sort it out ? I see their post, but no update beyond that for the last 3-4 days.

ExcessTest ?

No. They have asked for more documents, which I have sent them. But they have not replied to my emails for 4 days now.

Not taking their side, but perhaps because of Good Friday and the weekend. I have had a delay in response from support because it was a weekend, and am aware they do not have a working back end team during the weekend. But no way I am taking their side. Should wait for one more day.
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April 16, 2017, 08:06:07 AM
#50
I see the Gambling section flooded with gamblers sponsoring sportsbet.io

1. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-supremo-free-premiums-7-consecutive-weeks-in-profit-1580020
2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-and-premium-tips-all-sports-with-medium-and-high-oddssummary-1492w-432l-1435334
3. etc..

I suggest some responsible member to suggest these punters to stop sponsoring them as they(sportsbet.io) has nothing to lose now so they will eventually run away with their money, they will probably not rat you for 0.1 or 1 btc , but as soon as you make a big deposit they will scam you.

so, any member who is in DT should warn punters not to sponsor scam sites.

regards,
chevas
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April 16, 2017, 04:14:14 AM
#49
That's reason why i stopped gambling long time ago. Casino's are friendly only when you are losing. Even if you won fair and square they'll steal your money and expect you to leave like nothing happened.

It doesn't matter if they were oldschool casino's who accept credit cards and other shit. These new bitcoin casinos are not different than the previous ones.

This shit is cancer. Stop gambling.
possibly they are connected to each other those who are creating this gambling site have some ideas how the system will do, i'm not saying all of them but apparently there are some shady casino's that only good when you are depositing and losing your money but when you got some luck and you earn huge earnings you will be suspected doing something and they will delayed or freeze everything.

Considering the informations bellow :
 
The operator and manager of sportsbet.io is known: SportsBet.io + BitCasino.io

They are indeed linked, by the same licensing company who is maybe the owner of the platforms. It looks like it is a network of scam casinos with the same schems repeating. Like the serial scamers we have in the altcoin section.
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