25 arrested after Rab busts mini casino in Ashulia!!

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Incidents such as this one will serve as advertisement for illegal casinos. There are certain things that the government can't ban. And gambling is one of them. Gambling has existed for the past thousands of years, and it will not vanish just because some government agency brings a law against it. Once in a while, the cops may raid some illegal casino and arrest a few people. But that's going to be it. They don't have the time or resources to arrest every gambler.

Not only that but in the great scheme of things it does not make sense at all, the excuse that governments use to ban gambling is that some people get addicted to gambling and they want to protect them, this on the surface makes sense but what they do not seem to get is that those that get addicted to gambling have a predisposition to do so and they would have become addicted to something else anyway so they cannot protect them, while the rest has to suffer and not participate in an activity they enjoy while the governments receive no tax profits, so banning gambling is an scenario in which everyone losses.

Bangladesh is another case of muslim country which goes against gambling for religious reasons. As we can see the government could increase their income from taxes if gambling was legal and this money could be reverted to the population through public services. Addicted people would exist anyway, the difference would be that they would be playing at legalized casinos instead of clandestine ones.
There isn't much to do regards addiction, because as you said, people have a predisposition that if not manifested in gambling, it will be in another ways like alcohol or drugs addiction for an example.

Unfortunately people have the tendency to believe that everything can be solved and this is not the case, if people just accepted that there is a group of the population that no matter what you do you will never be able to help then gambling will be allowed in most parts of the world, also we need to consider the next, if something is a net positive to society but it produces some undesired aftereffects should we allow it? And the answer is yes, we just have to take a look at cars, many people die in car accidents but since it is such a useful technology we allow it anyway.

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Gamblers nowadays are getting younger and younger so yeah those Underage is the one who makes it difficult to fight illegal gambling.

Like in my place where street gambling is rampant and the players? mostly youngsters and this is alarming because one of these days maybe our children might be lured by this operators and gamblers.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on May 10, 2021, 09:26:42 AM

Gambling without losses is impossible. Maybe a few will be there winning at the very beginning and quitting it to use the profit on better businesses. Gambling can be a way to make money, but to attain this one should have self control. When a user is into gambling it is quite hard to see him staying within control.

Yes, it is almost impossible. But if you can win in the beginning and then stop gambling right away, you are the winner. But it will be related to our greed and how we can control ourselves not to continue gambling. Even if gambling can be the way to make money, we do not have to try it because the risk is too big and we can lose the money before we can make money.

Quote from: carlisle1 on May 10, 2021, 12:35:39 PM

The chance of losing instead of winning is very high if we choose this field, gambling most of the time suck your money out of your hands.

Those who believe that money is easy inside this industry better to think twice, there are many people who failed to control chasing for an easy access
and they fall to this mistake.

Greedy is the big factor most of the time so better to know how to control.

People playing gambling because they see what others get and see some people can win easily in gambling, so they are trying to play gambling. Unfortunately, they do not see their chance and do not control themselves, leading them to lose their money.

Greediness is something that we must control, no matter if we lose or win, because only controlling greedy can prevent us from losing more money.

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Quote from: Natsuu on May 09, 2021, 01:11:50 AM

Keep in mind guys that each country has rules and regulations and we should respect that. They have rules regarding gambling and these people violates it.

No matter how right we think the way we see that 18+ are suitable for gamble, this is a different country, and that's all in to it

They know the law for sure and that’s why they are playing on a hidden place unfortunately the authority got a tip from an insider and now they ended up on a jail. Gambling might seem profitable but taking that much risk is not worth it, if its illegal better not to do anything against it and just follow the law to avoid this kind of problem, you can gamble anytime on a legal way just know the law.

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^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

Human is unique. They know that gambling is against their belief but they still gambling because they desperate of making money in other ways. They think that it is okay to make money from gambling to fill their daily needs. They do that because they need money to buy food. But still, that is wrong according to their belief because I am sure there will be other ways to make money to buy their food. Some people still do that even if that is breaking their religion and they become addicted to gambling.

If people can treat money as what it is, they will not use money as a bad thing or evil because they know how to use money. Yes, when it is about getting money, people tend to become greedy and want more than they already got. Some of us forgot that earning fast money will not be possible except if we ask for money from other people, but that can make us lazy and do not want to find a job. You can make money from gambling, but you must know how to treat gambling, not lose money.

Gambling without losses is impossible. Maybe a few will be there winning at the very beginning and quitting it to use the profit on better businesses. Gambling can be a way to make money, but to attain this one should have self control. When a user is into gambling it is quite hard to see him staying within control.

Its normal for a human reaction to have those kind of things in mind when you are winning if you do know into yourself that you had able to make money on the current thing you are engaging
on which would most likely be result into proceeding and hoping for it to make it more big and as part of human behavior on being greedy then this would be the primary emotions
that will surely pop out on the process which would really lead into those decisions on doesnt really care on getting out when still in profits.
Gambling business wont really be profitable if people do win would really be having that kind of self control.

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^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

Human is unique. They know that gambling is against their belief but they still gambling because they desperate of making money in other ways. They think that it is okay to make money from gambling to fill their daily needs. They do that because they need money to buy food. But still, that is wrong according to their belief because I am sure there will be other ways to make money to buy their food. Some people still do that even if that is breaking their religion and they become addicted to gambling.

If people can treat money as what it is, they will not use money as a bad thing or evil because they know how to use money. Yes, when it is about getting money, people tend to become greedy and want more than they already got. Some of us forgot that earning fast money will not be possible except if we ask for money from other people, but that can make us lazy and do not want to find a job. You can make money from gambling, but you must know how to treat gambling, not lose money.

The chance of losing instead of winning is very high if we choose this field, gambling most of the time suck your money out of your hands.

Those who believe that money is easy inside this industry better to think twice, there are many people who failed to control chasing for an easy access
and they fall to this mistake.

Greedy is the big factor most of the time so better to know how to control.

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^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

Human is unique. They know that gambling is against their belief but they still gambling because they desperate of making money in other ways. They think that it is okay to make money from gambling to fill their daily needs. They do that because they need money to buy food. But still, that is wrong according to their belief because I am sure there will be other ways to make money to buy their food. Some people still do that even if that is breaking their religion and they become addicted to gambling.

If people can treat money as what it is, they will not use money as a bad thing or evil because they know how to use money. Yes, when it is about getting money, people tend to become greedy and want more than they already got. Some of us forgot that earning fast money will not be possible except if we ask for money from other people, but that can make us lazy and do not want to find a job. You can make money from gambling, but you must know how to treat gambling, not lose money.

Gambling without losses is impossible. Maybe a few will be there winning at the very beginning and quitting it to use the profit on better businesses. Gambling can be a way to make money, but to attain this one should have self control. When a user is into gambling it is quite hard to see him staying within control.

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Quote from: Taskford on May 09, 2021, 06:36:40 AM

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^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

Human is unique. They know that gambling is against their belief but they still gambling because they desperate of making money in other ways. They think that it is okay to make money from gambling to fill their daily needs. They do that because they need money to buy food. But still, that is wrong according to their belief because I am sure there will be other ways to make money to buy their food. Some people still do that even if that is breaking their religion and they become addicted to gambling.

If people can treat money as what it is, they will not use money as a bad thing or evil because they know how to use money. Yes, when it is about getting money, people tend to become greedy and want more than they already got. Some of us forgot that earning fast money will not be possible except if we ask for money from other people, but that can make us lazy and do not want to find a job. You can make money from gambling, but you must know how to treat gambling, not lose money.

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^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

Human is unique. They know that gambling is against their belief but they still gambling because they desperate of making money in other ways. They think that it is okay to make money from gambling to fill their daily needs. They do that because they need money to buy food. But still, that is wrong according to their belief because I am sure there will be other ways to make money to buy their food. Some people still do that even if that is breaking their religion and they become addicted to gambling.

Belief or other religion stuffs is out of this business since if there's money involve for sure people will forget about it, money is root of evil so expect many people will became greedy because many want an instant money and they forget how hard it is and even forget the possibilities that they might lose everything they have.

Quote from: Natsuu on May 09, 2021, 01:11:50 AM

Keep in mind guys that each country has rules and regulations and we should respect that. They have rules regarding gambling and these people violates it.

No matter how right we think the way we see that 18+ are suitable for gamble, this is a different country, and that's all in to it

Rules are their but many people abide it so expect people will just ignore the regulations made by those gambling firms around them, so expect many will still got arrested for doing the illegalities like this since people will still grab due to possible money it can produce if they win.

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Keep in mind guys that each country has rules and regulations and we should respect that. They have rules regarding gambling and these people violates it.

No matter how right we think the way we see that 18+ are suitable for gamble, this is a different country, and that's all in to it

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 08, 2021, 03:04:43 PM

^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

Human is unique. They know that gambling is against their belief but they still gambling because they desperate of making money in other ways. They think that it is okay to make money from gambling to fill their daily needs. They do that because they need money to buy food. But still, that is wrong according to their belief because I am sure there will be other ways to make money to buy their food. Some people still do that even if that is breaking their religion and they become addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 05, 2021, 10:57:38 PM

Incidents such as this one will serve as advertisement for illegal casinos. There are certain things that the government can't ban. And gambling is one of them. Gambling has existed for the past thousands of years, and it will not vanish just because some government agency brings a law against it. Once in a while, the cops may raid some illegal casino and arrest a few people. But that's going to be it. They don't have the time or resources to arrest every gambler.

I agree they only create corrupt government officials, gambling operators will always find a way, they are not paying taxes so they will spend funds on paying corrupt officials and thugs to defend them, and since there's no regulation they will entertain even bad elements like drug dealers and pimps because these people are gambling a lot.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 08, 2021, 03:04:43 PM

^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

There are countries that are also attached to their religion and that's why they're stricter with government rules and it's likely the same to their religious laws.
It's true that it will help them boost their economy but that would be just second if they're also a religious country.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 08, 2021, 03:04:43 PM

^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

In every religion then you cant really expect that majority of people would really be honest when it comes to their beliefs.Some people wouldnt just care if they do oppose on whats stated
into their religion or some sort or doesnt mind as long they would able to play.You could really expect for these places to pop out in spite of the restriction or prohibition neither
those are just casual government decisions or simply talks about something connected to religion.Whatever it is then there would always someone who will build
illegal things for the sake of possible income and there are people whom do surely find it and play no matter what.

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^ But how can you do gamble if gambling is against your belief, I mean because gambling is against Islamic law and you are Islam. So I am guessing here and probably you will not do for the sake of your religion and not become a sinner. So if you are in an Islam country, we should respect their law and I think that is really punishable for them once you have caught it. Though we know that gambling will boost the government's economic problem, but if it is against their belief there is nothing we can do is do not abide by the law.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 05, 2021, 10:57:38 PM

Incidents such as this one will serve as advertisement for illegal casinos. There are certain things that the government can't ban. And gambling is one of them. Gambling has existed for the past thousands of years, and it will not vanish just because some government agency brings a law against it. Once in a while, the cops may raid some illegal casino and arrest a few people. But that's going to be it. They don't have the time or resources to arrest every gambler.

Not only that but in the great scheme of things it does not make sense at all, the excuse that governments use to ban gambling is that some people get addicted to gambling and they want to protect them, this on the surface makes sense but what they do not seem to get is that those that get addicted to gambling have a predisposition to do so and they would have become addicted to something else anyway so they cannot protect them, while the rest has to suffer and not participate in an activity they enjoy while the governments receive no tax profits, so banning gambling is an scenario in which everyone losses.

Bangladesh is another case of muslim country which goes against gambling for religious reasons. As we can see the government could increase their income from taxes if gambling was legal and this money could be reverted to the population through public services. Addicted people would exist anyway, the difference would be that they would be playing at legalized casinos instead of clandestine ones.
There isn't much to do regards addiction, because as you said, people have a predisposition that if not manifested in gambling, it will be in another ways like alcohol or drugs addiction for an example.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on May 05, 2021, 10:57:38 PM

Incidents such as this one will serve as advertisement for illegal casinos. There are certain things that the government can't ban. And gambling is one of them. Gambling has existed for the past thousands of years, and it will not vanish just because some government agency brings a law against it. Once in a while, the cops may raid some illegal casino and arrest a few people. But that's going to be it. They don't have the time or resources to arrest every gambler.

Not only that but in the great scheme of things it does not make sense at all, the excuse that governments use to ban gambling is that some people get addicted to gambling and they want to protect them, this on the surface makes sense but what they do not seem to get is that those that get addicted to gambling have a predisposition to do so and they would have become addicted to something else anyway so they cannot protect them, while the rest has to suffer and not participate in an activity they enjoy while the governments receive no tax profits, so banning gambling is an scenario in which everyone losses.

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Incidents such as this one will serve as advertisement for illegal casinos. There are certain things that the government can't ban. And gambling is one of them. Gambling has existed for the past thousands of years, and it will not vanish just because some government agency brings a law against it. Once in a while, the cops may raid some illegal casino and arrest a few people. But that's going to be it. They don't have the time or resources to arrest every gambler.

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Louder. Governments seem to refuse to acknowledge that banning something does not mean that it wouldn't happen. Being in control is a lot better than just removing it from your life. Sure, if it was just a small scale ones like related to our personal lives (addiction to something), it's okay, but as large scale country wise? It's impossible. Honestly, at this point, the only reason I'd actually accept for countries to refuse to gamble is that they're religious-based. It's probably the only reason that doesn't make sense, but since it's religion, it does (no offense to religions btw)

That is the likely case that should happen but culture, religion and traditions gets in the way of progress. I believe that if we slowly move away from those things, we can further prosper but we also at the same time preserve it. Also, the government sometimes has benefits from making those bans instead of regulations, they might've been lobbied by companies that will benefit from the bans.

Benefit or not then it wouldnt matter because we dont know on whats behind of those decisions that had been set out neither they are benefiting or not and theres nothing we can do about it.
When it comes to regulations then this would really be varying from each government neither they would really be following religion or something that do involves culture or some sort of things.
When they do make their decisions then that would really be accompanied by something or where they do get some basis on but to think that there would be more benefits rather than
on negatives then they might really be changing it later on but its really hard to tell on when those things to happen.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on May 02, 2021, 11:47:37 PM

That is the likely case that should happen but culture, religion and traditions gets in the way of progress. I believe that if we slowly move away from those things, we can further prosper but we also at the same time preserve it. Also, the government sometimes has benefits from making those bans instead of regulations, they might've been lobbied by companies that will benefit from the bans.

While you can preserve the beautiful buildings built by followers of religion and keep quirky traditions that might come with it (like Christmas for example), ultimately religion stands in the way of progress most of the time. You will generally find that more educated populations will move away from holding such beliefs. Which is probably as science is about proof through reproducible results rather than blind and unquestioning faith in stories written thousands of years ago. That being said, non-religious societies should allow religious practice so long as it has no impact on the governance of those who have no interest in it. Religious followers should also fall under the laws of a civil society, not seek to create their own society and legal frameworks outside of it. Unfortunately just like in authoritarian governments, the most aggressive and extreme in religions who pretend to be closest to God, get to set the rules. This means heavily religious countries will struggle for a long time to break free from these shackles and Islam seems to have tight restrictions on many things that other countries have deemed acceptable. If you don't like the rules, you have to avoid these countries or take great care when you visit.

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