25 arrested after Rab busts mini casino in Ashulia!! - page 2.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on May 02, 2021, 04:41:12 PM

You guys are aware that these are all bribe related right? When you start an illegal casino and reach to 25+ people just jailed, god knows how many other people who gambled there, that means you have been around for a while. And you think Police never heard of it? They of course heard of it, they went there in civil clothes, asked to meet the owner, then talked with them about a good bribe to let them continue their operations, when the bribing finally ended or there was a dispute over how much it was, that resulted with the bust.

This happens in every nation, this happens quite frequently, there are illegal casinos all around the world right now, wherever you are, whichever nation or city, know that there is at least one place that allows gambling, even if it is small that is still true that it is allowed and nobody does anything about it.

What you describe is incredibly common and as you state it happens everywhere, this is why this is called organized crime, there are crimes that do not require the cooperation of the police but there are other crimes that are impossible to hide and the people behind those operations require the cooperation of the police and politicians to keep going on, it is also possible there was a change in the government and the reason they got caught was to spite the previous administration or that the person now in command of the police is not corrupt.

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Quote from: Wexnident on May 02, 2021, 08:18:40 AM

Louder. Governments seem to refuse to acknowledge that banning something does not mean that it wouldn't happen. Being in control is a lot better than just removing it from your life. Sure, if it was just a small scale ones like related to our personal lives (addiction to something), it's okay, but as large scale country wise? It's impossible. Honestly, at this point, the only reason I'd actually accept for countries to refuse to gamble is that they're religious-based. It's probably the only reason that doesn't make sense, but since it's religion, it does (no offense to religions btw)

That is the likely case that should happen but culture, religion and traditions gets in the way of progress. I believe that if we slowly move away from those things, we can further prosper but we also at the same time preserve it. Also, the government sometimes has benefits from making those bans instead of regulations, they might've been lobbied by companies that will benefit from the bans.

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You guys are aware that these are all bribe related right? When you start an illegal casino and reach to 25+ people just jailed, god knows how many other people who gambled there, that means you have been around for a while. And you think Police never heard of it? They of course heard of it, they went there in civil clothes, asked to meet the owner, then talked with them about a good bribe to let them continue their operations, when the bribing finally ended or there was a dispute over how much it was, that resulted with the bust.

This happens in every nation, this happens quite frequently, there are illegal casinos all around the world right now, wherever you are, whichever nation or city, know that there is at least one place that allows gambling, even if it is small that is still true that it is allowed and nobody does anything about it.

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Quote from: Swopon on April 21, 2021, 06:12:30 PM

Just scrolling in social media as like regular and got this news in my news feed. This is not surprising to me but as well as it is surprising too, because maximum were young generation whose age 18+. Though any type of gambling is prohibited in Bangladesh, they should be punished. Here, I will pasting the full article,

While I do think that gambling should be legal everywhere because if you make it illegal people are going to gamble anyway especially now that gambling online is so easy and you can do it with cryptocurrencies to avoid detection by our local authorities in the case it is illegal, setting up an illegal casino operation in a country where it is illegal is a very high risk, after all this is a business that requires people to know that the casino exist and this will eventually be known by the police and they will eventually get the people behind the operation.

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Quote from: magneto on May 01, 2021, 10:27:15 PM

Regulating these entities make a lot more sense from a fiscal standpoint as well as a pragmatic perspective. You can control the edge that casinos have, ensure that they do not cheat, and make a bunch of tax revenue. Win-win.

Louder. Governments seem to refuse to acknowledge that banning something does not mean that it wouldn't happen. Being in control is a lot better than just removing it from your life. Sure, if it was just a small scale ones like related to our personal lives (addiction to something), it's okay, but as large scale country wise? It's impossible. Honestly, at this point, the only reason I'd actually accept for countries to refuse to gamble is that they're religious-based. It's probably the only reason that doesn't make sense, but since it's religion, it does (no offense to religions btw)

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Quote from: xSkylarx on May 02, 2021, 07:00:30 AM

Quote from: magneto on May 01, 2021, 10:27:15 PM

This is what I find ridiculous about any efforts from governments in trying to restrict access to gambling.

Sure, you might be able to bust a couple of unlucky gamblers that frequent these joints. But at the end of the day, what have you achieved? So long as there is demand for these gaming services, they will exist. It's the law of free market economics.

Regulating these entities make a lot more sense from a fiscal standpoint as well as a pragmatic perspective. You can control the edge that casinos have, ensure that they do not cheat, and make a bunch of tax revenue. Win-win.

Maybe they don't want to pay tax because the government officials and authorities there are corrupt. Government only restricts gambling if they can't control it or won't benefit from it. If it is backed by a politician they just ignore it and authorities don't even touch it.

Well its there lost if they will think about that way since there might be a extortion will happen on legal authorities if they will not comply on legal matters to their casino. For sure corrupt officers will make them as milking cow just to allow them operate smoothly so to avoid this better submit the necerrasy documents for legalities so that bad minds will not use that as a weapon for their own benefits.

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Quote from: magneto on May 01, 2021, 10:27:15 PM

This is what I find ridiculous about any efforts from governments in trying to restrict access to gambling.

Sure, you might be able to bust a couple of unlucky gamblers that frequent these joints. But at the end of the day, what have you achieved? So long as there is demand for these gaming services, they will exist. It's the law of free market economics.

Regulating these entities make a lot more sense from a fiscal standpoint as well as a pragmatic perspective. You can control the edge that casinos have, ensure that they do not cheat, and make a bunch of tax revenue. Win-win.

Maybe they don't want to pay tax because the government officials and authorities there are corrupt. Government only restricts gambling if they can't control it or won't benefit from it. If it is backed by a politician they just ignore it and authorities don't even touch it. This happens to our country so I think the reason why that casino was busted is that the owner wasn't able to pay the high official protecting that casino, the official tipped it to authorities because it will put him at risk if someone reported him that he is protecting that illegal casino.

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This is what I find ridiculous about any efforts from governments in trying to restrict access to gambling.

Sure, you might be able to bust a couple of unlucky gamblers that frequent these joints. But at the end of the day, what have you achieved? So long as there is demand for these gaming services, they will exist. It's the law of free market economics.

Regulating these entities make a lot more sense from a fiscal standpoint as well as a pragmatic perspective. You can control the edge that casinos have, ensure that they do not cheat, and make a bunch of tax revenue. Win-win.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on April 27, 2021, 09:31:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 25, 2021, 07:04:55 PM

In most countries, business organizers are responsible for violations in this area, ordinary gamblers receive a fine (as a maximum), so visiting such establishments they risk very little (if you do not take into account the crime such as drugs, usury, dirty money, etc. that thrives there).

this makes illegal gambling continue because gamblers that have a money wont be scare as they can pay when they get caught but why wont they increase the penalty for the gamblers if they are serious of making their country gambling free ? playing online is risky as playing offline because of how modern our time now .
for them to be safe they can switch different hobby and skip gambling till the time it became fully legal

I think this unevenness in punishment is justified. An ordinary person should not understand on what grounds the organization works (legally or not), this should be done by representatives of the state. And at the same time, those who organize illegal business know very well that they are breaking the law, so the demand for them is very strict.

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Quote from: Swopon on April 27, 2021, 01:44:24 PM

Quote from: aysg76 on April 25, 2021, 01:46:48 PM

The government cannot put end to these activities by putting ban on them or punishing the criminals for the offence they have made because main issue with these underdeveloped or developing countries is corruption which cannot be eradicated easily.They might be operating from a long time in Bangladesh.Although gambling activities are prohibited in Bangladesh some illegally operates there through bribes and some other ways and people are also risking themselves to indulge in such activities.The all arrested were 18 years of age but neglence of law is not plea to the court.They will find some other way to operate their casino or with support from some leader they will get bail because money is power in these countries and here we are discussing about such things.

True. Forcefully the issues can't be solved. Whenever the world is getting more digitalized, Bangladesh should also follow that consequences. Otherwise, people will use it by other ways and this is the advantage of using Cryptocurrency, none can identify. Gambling and Cryptocurrency both should be legalized here to walk with the digital world.

It wont matter if they completely ban it because sooner or later, people or citizens would eventually find out on gambling on using up crypto.It might not happen
now but when awareness had increased then most likely they would really be ending up with this kind of option.For now the best thing to do is not to deal with
gambling if its completely being restricted or prohibited on a certain country because you would really be having some serious problems if you do get caught
but there are still people who do risk out just to have these gambling experience.

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Quote from: aysg76 on April 25, 2021, 01:46:48 PM

The government cannot put end to these activities by putting ban on them or punishing the criminals for the offence they have made because main issue with these underdeveloped or developing countries is corruption which cannot be eradicated easily.They might be operating from a long time in Bangladesh.Although gambling activities are prohibited in Bangladesh some illegally operates there through bribes and some other ways and people are also risking themselves to indulge in such activities.The all arrested were 18 years of age but neglence of law is not plea to the court.They will find some other way to operate their casino or with support from some leader they will get bail because money is power in these countries and here we are discussing about such things.

True. Forcefully the issues can't be solved. Whenever the world is getting more digitalized, Bangladesh should also follow that consequences. Otherwise, people will use it by other ways and this is the advantage of using Cryptocurrency, none can identify. Gambling and Cryptocurrency both should be legalized here to walk with the digital world.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on April 27, 2021, 09:31:00 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on April 25, 2021, 07:04:55 PM

Quote from: pilosopotasyo on April 24, 2021, 05:53:09 PM

It's to risky playing in a country where gambling is restricted and illegal, because these countries have a ask force or specific police unit that haunts down gambling places and gamblers, so if you are in a country where gambling is restricted, control your urge to gamble if you cannot, play online where the risk to get caught is much lesser than playing in a physical casinos, be discreet go around telling everyone that you like to gamble.

In most countries, business organizers are responsible for violations in this area, ordinary gamblers receive a fine (as a maximum), so visiting such establishments they risk very little (if you do not take into account the crime such as drugs, usury, dirty money, etc. that thrives there).

this makes illegal gambling continue because gamblers that have a money wont be scare as they can pay when they get caught but why wont they increase the penalty for the gamblers if they are serious of making their country gambling free ? playing online is risky as playing offline because of how modern our time now .
for them to be safe they can switch different hobby and skip gambling till the time it became fully legal

They can bribe the officers and I am sure they can easily find the corrupt officers that can help them free from jail or law.
Although playing online gambling is risky as playing offline, that will not stop people from playing gambling because that is happen in a long time ago.
It is hard to stop a gambler from starting a new hobby if they are often playing gambling and do not want to change their gambling habit.
But maybe that is the safe way before they get caught by the officers and get into jail.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 25, 2021, 07:04:55 PM

Quote from: pilosopotasyo on April 24, 2021, 05:53:09 PM

It's to risky playing in a country where gambling is restricted and illegal, because these countries have a ask force or specific police unit that haunts down gambling places and gamblers, so if you are in a country where gambling is restricted, control your urge to gamble if you cannot, play online where the risk to get caught is much lesser than playing in a physical casinos, be discreet go around telling everyone that you like to gamble.

In most countries, business organizers are responsible for violations in this area, ordinary gamblers receive a fine (as a maximum), so visiting such establishments they risk very little (if you do not take into account the crime such as drugs, usury, dirty money, etc. that thrives there).

Indeed in Bangladesh even the fines for organising illegal gambling are quite low. Besides, as we know the level of corruption in Bangladesh is quite high, so such problems are solved very quickly and in a few days the same organizers open an underground casino in the same area but at a new location.

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Quote from: KTChampions on April 25, 2021, 07:04:55 PM

Quote from: pilosopotasyo on April 24, 2021, 05:53:09 PM

It's to risky playing in a country where gambling is restricted and illegal, because these countries have a ask force or specific police unit that haunts down gambling places and gamblers, so if you are in a country where gambling is restricted, control your urge to gamble if you cannot, play online where the risk to get caught is much lesser than playing in a physical casinos, be discreet go around telling everyone that you like to gamble.

In most countries, business organizers are responsible for violations in this area, ordinary gamblers receive a fine (as a maximum), so visiting such establishments they risk very little (if you do not take into account the crime such as drugs, usury, dirty money, etc. that thrives there).

this makes illegal gambling continue because gamblers that have a money wont be scare as they can pay when they get caught but why wont they increase the penalty for the gamblers if they are serious of making their country gambling free ? playing online is risky as playing offline because of how modern our time now .
for them to be safe they can switch different hobby and skip gambling till the time it became fully legal

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on April 24, 2021, 05:53:09 PM

It's to risky playing in a country where gambling is restricted and illegal, because these countries have a ask force or specific police unit that haunts down gambling places and gamblers, so if you are in a country where gambling is restricted, control your urge to gamble if you cannot, play online where the risk to get caught is much lesser than playing in a physical casinos, be discreet go around telling everyone that you like to gamble.

In most countries, business organizers are responsible for violations in this area, ordinary gamblers receive a fine (as a maximum), so visiting such establishments they risk very little (if you do not take into account the crime such as drugs, usury, dirty money, etc. that thrives there).

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Quote from: Pamadar on April 25, 2021, 01:59:42 AM

There's an alternative to continue if you can't stop the urgency of gambling.

Playing online is one of the best option though the fan sn't the same playing alongside of fellow gamblers but much better than risking
yourself being exposed, aside from those task force that will chase you the pandemic also adds the threat playing with bounch of people
around.

It doesn't add up the threat of playing with many people around, but if a casino busts with so many people inside, the first charges that could be levied on them will be of 'trying to spread Coronavirus' even if none of them have the virus because the pandemic has taken so terrible form that nobody is ready to listen and will ask the addicted people to leave their addiction during the pandemic. Playing online also saves the gambler from going outside and also adding more threat not to his life alone but even putting his family's life at risk.

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The government cannot put end to these activities by putting ban on them or punishing the criminals for the offence they have made because main issue with these underdeveloped or developing countries is corruption which cannot be eradicated easily.They might be operating from a long time in Bangladesh.Although gambling activities are prohibited in Bangladesh some illegally operates there through bribes and some other ways and people are also risking themselves to indulge in such activities.The all arrested were 18 years of age but neglence of law is not plea to the court.They will find some other way to operate their casino or with support from some leader they will get bail because money is power in these countries and here we are discussing about such things.

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There are certain vices which can't be banned. I am talking about gambling, porn, prostitution, weed.etc. Here in India, all of them are banned. But at the same time, all of them are readily available in every nook and corner of this country. The only ones to benefit from the ban are politicians and cops, who receive huge amounts of bribe in the form of "protection money". Illegal casinos and brothels are being operated by criminals, with tacit help from politicians and policemen.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 25, 2021, 05:07:46 AM

There are many restrictions in Bangladesh Cryptocurrency is illegal gambling is illegal people will find a way to do what they like they are publishing this to scare people who still gambling, people will find a way to gamble, this is just the tip of the iceberg there are still many hidden or underground gambling places and there are many playing online.

That is why the underground gambling places will still operate freely because people can find a way to gamble in hidden places. The government will not be easy to search for that places because the place will not share with the common people and only people who are often playing gambling will know the place. The illegal casino itself will be selective to invite the gambler who can play on their place because they are really strict to select the gambler. Arresting those people will not stop the illegal casino in many countries unless the government can catch the boss.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 25, 2021, 05:07:46 AM

There are many restrictions in Bangladesh Cryptocurrency is illegal gambling is illegal people will find a way to do what they like they are publishing this to scare people who still gambling, people will find a way to gamble, this is just the tip of the iceberg there are still many hidden or underground gambling places and there are many playing online.

Then with that, I guess the government will continue to crack down illegal activities, I don't know that crypto is also illegal in this country, I would understand with gambling but crypto does not mean its only use for gambling, if big countries are adopting or regulating crypto, then maybe they can also do the same as eventually it will benefit the economy of the country.

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