Topic: 2.5 million US truckers say they'll quit over vaccine mandate (Read 366 times)

That's true, to be honest I'm really worried that the genetic changes that people talk about will happen to those who receive the vaccine shots

just imagine how the vaccine was made in a short time, that means the test can't be confirmed to be successful

I've received vaccine shots twice and it's like betting on fate lol

There are two points there that I want to address. First of all, truckers are a job description, just like fast food worker, just like accountant, just like any other job, so you can just hire a new one and fire the old one, I really do not see this as a problem at all. Truckers do not hold the keys to freedom to do whatever they want just because they are doing a job that they imagine nobody else can do. It is literally carrying goods from one place to another via a vehicle, probably one of the simplest jobs in the entire world, I rather be a trucker than be a fast food cashier tbf.

Secondly "freedom of individual" is something regarding the individual, if you want to get a tattoo for example, it could say "f**k usa" and that's free, it could say "f**k trump" or "f**k biden" or whatever and it's allowed, there is no problem as long as you are doing something for yourself. However, without getting vaccination, you are risking others life, which means your "freedom" understanding is killing other people. This is like if you buy a gun then you have to kill someone with it, would that law be accepted?

Of course not, if you do not want to get vaccinated and you lock yourself somewhere and never get out then it could be understood but obviously nobody will accept that. So you are saying "we should have the right to be able to kill others by not getting vaccination, if I want to risk others lives then I should be allowed to!!!" and that is EXACTLY what people who do not want to follow the mandate are doing, do not kid yourself with anything else, do not make up excuses, this is EXACTLY what they are doing.

When you cook up a vaccine within an year, which does not even completely protect against the virus, you cannot force people to comply with that. The other vaccines you mentioned are tested for years and then implemented and once you are vaccinated you will not get infected, but you are aware that the COVID vaccine is not giving you complete protection against the virus and there is no way even the scientific community will know about the side affects in the long term.

I completely agree with what you wrote, regarding the vaccine mandate. But the excuse being given is that the other vaccines (i.e the ones against diphtheria, measles.etc) have undergone stringent clinical trials over a period of many decades, while the COVID vaccines are relatively new and many of them are yet to complete the Phase III trials. And a section of the society believes that the side effects that result from the vaccination is more harmful when compared to the actual COVID virus infection itself.

I wonder why so many people around the world are surprised about vaccination mandates as they do already exist anyway for various illnesses and infections. Chickenpox, measles, and a variety of other infections are already coped with via a vaccination mandate. Nobody ever really considered protesting against that. Anyway, I hope this is soon getting under control.

The ground reality is different, there is a serious issue with trucking as goods are not moving to the destination for months and the ships are docked in the port without unloading and the stores are struggling because of this situation as the goods are there in the port but there is serious transportation issue.

When it comes to mandatory vaccine mandate, it is really against the freedom of an individual, it is not just the truckers that are opposing that, government officials including police officers, military personal and many are planning to resign if they are forced to take a vaccine to continue work.

Do you realize that this is a clickbait article? Out of the 2.5 million truckers, a few tens of thousands are threatening that they will quit over the vaccine mandate. In the end, this number may be as low as 1% or 2%. Even if that causes a shortage, the US businesses can easily hire truckers from across the border (either from the north, i.e Canada, or from the South, i.e Mexico). Unlike the situation in the European Union, there is no shortage as such. If the American truckers go ballistic over the vaccine mandate, then they'll lose their jobs. As simple as that.

I think they are not seeing the big picture, the supply chain is very affected which means that instead of restrictions what you want is to encourage people that left that job to comeback, train new people to take those jobs or bring people from other countries to fill the gap, right now the US cannot afford truck drivers to leave their positions, so even if the US government believes this is what is the right thing to do they should leave them alone until things get normalized, but they do not think like that and now we are seeing the consequences of trying to regulate this too soon.

If the strike for US truck drivers really happens, the shipping crisis will not be avoided. the economy will definitely stop for a while until shipping returns to normal, but it looks like it didn't happen because the US government seems to have found the best solution to avoid this.

Leave it to the local government because I'm sure they will not stay silent with the issue,
I hope this can be resolved soon just imagine if 2.5 million US truck drivers stopped of course it would cause serious problems,
The most important thing is that we'll see what happens next

I'm not sure but I believe you have a point regardless of whether it was genuine or not, as that would be a break issue. If this were true, we would face a food shortage because these truckers are actually performing their duties of delivering food, and the economy would collapse. However, I believe the government would not allow this to happen because it would be a major problem for which they are actively seeking a solution. Additionally, if this is a hoax, I believe we would be idle, so it is preferable to take it seriously.

This news sounds like it is about artificially creating of crisis in the country. If 2.5 million US truckers will be quitted because of limitations for non-vaccinated people that will lead country to collapse: people will not receive products (as a result - hunger) and medicines (more death), prices on scarce commodity will grow, these will lead to widespread lootings etc.  Sorry, possibly I'm overstating a little bit, but do only I consider situation with vaccination strange?

But that comes with other problems. In Germany for example, the workforce in hospitals is shrinking because the work they have to do became so hard that they quit their jobs. This situation is damn complicated. Working in a suit with mask and all this clothes on your buddy for 10 hours straight with almost no breaks, for how long would anyone of us here do that? They are asking everyone to get the vaccine as it is proven to help prevent lots of people from getting such severe symptoms that they have to get hospitalized. There are so many interests involved. God knows where this virus will lead us.

2.5million workforce quitting would be catastrophic. This vaccine should be voluntary for Christ sake. The enforcement seems like a global end-time prophecy mandate causing some kind of resistance by well informed professions and even less informed folks. People should be allowed to have an option. 

After almost two years of the pandemic I think we can safely say most people around the world are aware of its effects, and just as there are some people that will choose on their own to get the vaccine there are others that will come to the opposite conclusion, what happens is that those that are choosing not to get the vaccine probably think their rights are being trampled upon by being mandated to take the vaccine to keep their jobs, and now they are pushing back against Biden.

You have the wrong idea thinking maybe (I assume) that truckers deliver only finished goods or food, they deliver a lot of things to a lot of business and even if you think you're not depending o them you might or your supplier will surely do in any manufacturing.
Also, yeah right, you would prefer starving...have you ever gone a week without eating?


I don't know, have you sent your easy fix plan to Boris? The UK might need a bulletproof plan and pretty fast.
Oh, maybe because the part I underlined is not true? Do they test your vision, health, urine, and pass a knowledge test before you're ok to flip burgers?  


Rather than AI trucks they could invest more in railway transport, over long distances there is no way a truck would beat a train in speed and cost, and for short railway stations to deposit transports if everything is planned correctly you can have one truck serving an entire warehouse.
Probably AI forklifts would be needed more as there is a lot of time lost on loading and unloading, I know from a friend who works at a logistic depot every time they tried to use two operators in pair for the same container it has never resulted in an increase in efficiency, a fleet of AI forklifts would be able to coordinate themselves better than humans could ever do with thousands of hours of training.

We do always have that kind of impression to those people who do really oppose the idea of vaccination  due to some personal reason which is commonly that they've been thinking negatively about it which it isnt surprising that they would really be ending up with these kind of decisions even myself
does really have that kind of views towards vaccine but i do still end up on getting some shot just because i cant enter malls and other
establishments for those people who arent vaccinated which means you dont have any choice right?
They are really good on making people do take the shot.

The case of vaccination is a problem that for many represents the Non-Security of immunity, what seems very bad to me is that the truckers quit their job, if vaccination is mandatory, it is something else, but that each person Give him a possible compensation contract in case everything goes wrong, there are people who get vaccinated and die, Pfizer goes for the 4th dose, and the other vaccines such as Russia and China are still in development, I don't know what criteria the truckers take or who may be influencing them to make that decision, I know that Canada is closed even by air because there are more than 1000 deaths per day.

The other question is how many of them are large over the road truckers and how many are the local ones.
If more of them are the long haul ones then it's a bigger issue then if it's the local ones.

One of the people I do work for is involved in the food industry, I see a slightly different perspective.
EVERY person who deals with the food, even if it IS just the guy in the truck driving it and never even has ACCESS to the locked and sealed trailer, has had just about every vaccine known, As in it's frozen vegetables, the chances of transmitting Hep A to them is *zero*. BUT you know what, the insurance brokers don't give a fuck. Vaccinate or you don't get insurance.

But if you are hauling car parts, it's up to you. It's also up to the business shipping the parts and the business getting the parts if they want to let someone who is not vaccinated into their facility.

-Dave

Why? Why would you have hard time replacing millions of truckers? Explain to me the exact reason why would it be hard to find people who would be overpaid for a very simple job when there is no qualifications required whereas burger flippers get paid minimum wage which hasn't increased in decades?

I am pretty sure the moment we have "okay we quit" situation going on with truckers, some of them will not give up, I suspect at least half of them will not be quitting their amazing job which allows them to earn way more than their qualifications suggests, and the other half will be replaced within 1 year at the very most if you ask me. Sure that means a bit of a problem at first, and to "train" them will take some time maybe, but in the end it will be a temporary solution. You know what the otherside is?

You do not let them go, you do not mandate a vaccination for truckers because of their blackmail, and then tomorrow librarians will ask for the same, then fast food workers, then office workers, if you give up as soon as someone blackmails you, then there is no mandate anymore.