3 Bitcoin ? Segwit , Segwit with 2MB , 8MB Bitcoin Cash - page 2.

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Quote from: Lauda on August 08, 2017, 03:58:08 AM

Quote from: tosmartak on August 08, 2017, 03:56:11 AM

It would actually be very interesting. Moreover, everyday isn't Christmas and I am not sure such would happen anytime soon. In as much as bitcoin cash came with a presumed war, Bitcoin conquered and will always do apparently. It seems though that BCH is getting back on its feet gradually or is it just another quick pump?

Just a classic pump & dump, i.e. speculation. Most of the coins on coinmarketcap are not even worth 1/10 of their valuation (speculation put aside). I don't mind though, it recovered in time for me to pull more funds to dump.

Quote from: sindikat on August 08, 2017, 03:56:57 AM

After all see what will happen to the bitcoin cash I think miners will be more cooperative. No one wants to lose their money due to unnecessary ambitions. I am sure that bitcoin is not threatened.

Bitcoin Cash has nothing to do with Bitcoin besides taking a snapshot of its balances.

Exactly , Bcc has no value . Its just that BCC has been given as free to all those who have BTC. You can say people got bonus/ gift on keeping the bitcoins with them save. I Would surely suggest people to sell Bcc at good price now and buy more bitcoins which is the real digital currency.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on August 07, 2017, 06:50:01 AM

I would not mind if for every fork I would be receiving some free coins into my account in the exchange that can be supporting the new altcoin. However, I think this whole thing has to stop because it will make Bitcoin look like a joker. Anyway, I am sure it would not really happen that way. One split I think is enough. Not unless we want to make this whole thing a big comedy then we can have a good laugh.

I get your point man. Tho we all know here that we are trying to fix the current bitcoin situation in which is already worse the fees and the transaction process are getting ridiculous but i would have to agree with you that creating another coin is not just the solution

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https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10982

this could make fork more likely

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Quote from: Lauda on August 07, 2017, 08:36:39 AM

The hard fork in November can not happen, and therefore will not happen. There is absolutely near-zero support from the community and likewise from the developers. There will also not be "3 Bitcoin". There is 1 Bitcoin, the rest are altcoins. Bitcoin Cash (aka bcash, aka BCH) will always be an altcoin, and the same will apply for any controversial hard fork.

Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 07, 2017, 06:06:58 AM

but these ones are still regarded as "bitcoin".

Bullshit. Just because you slap the name Bitcoin in front of some word and premine existing balances, that doesn't mean that it is Bitcoin.

There is no premine. A hardfork is a split of 1 chain to 2 chains and each chain will have their own software/consensus/protocols/codings/etc.

There is no premine at all.

Both are bitcoin since it derives from the original bitcoin chain. One is Bitcoin Core and the other is Bitcoin Cash. Neither are original anymore. A slice of bread = original. Cut it in half you get two halves bread of 1 original bread. The original bread no longer exist. The original bitcoin existed until the hardfork.

The total value of both coins currently hovering over $3700, which has demonstrated that there is an increased market for both bitcoin to exist. The other altcoins are going down. I do not know about you, but i will say this, "Long may both bitcoin chain prosper."

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Only 1 Bitcoin,
the BTC is the only one,
all others are something other,
there can be only 1 Mum!

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Quote from: hv_ on August 07, 2017, 06:02:03 AM

If core still ignores miners and NYA when building 'consensus' code ... there will be more shit happening - YES.

I wish i didnt agree but I do. I really wouldnt like to have another split. But I am afraid that if the 2X split happens, it will be far messier than the August 1st split. Its going to be an interesting 3 months. Lets hope all parties involved act like adults and do things as planned. No more suprises.

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Quote from: tosmartak on August 08, 2017, 03:56:11 AM

It would actually be very interesting. Moreover, everyday isn't Christmas and I am not sure such would happen anytime soon. In as much as bitcoin cash came with a presumed war, Bitcoin conquered and will always do apparently. It seems though that BCH is getting back on its feet gradually or is it just another quick pump?

Just a classic pump & dump, i.e. speculation. Most of the coins on coinmarketcap are not even worth 1/10 of their valuation (speculation put aside). I don't mind though, it recovered in time for me to pull more funds to dump.

Quote from: sindikat on August 08, 2017, 03:56:57 AM

After all see what will happen to the bitcoin cash I think miners will be more cooperative. No one wants to lose their money due to unnecessary ambitions. I am sure that bitcoin is not threatened.

Bitcoin Cash has nothing to do with Bitcoin besides taking a snapshot of its balances.

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After all see what will happen to the bitcoin cash I think miners will be more cooperative. No one wants to lose their money due to unnecessary ambitions. I am sure that bitcoin is not threatened.

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It would actually be very interesting. Moreover, everyday isn't Christmas and I am not sure such would happen anytime soon. In as much as bitcoin cash came with a presumed war, Bitcoin conquered and will always do apparently. It seems though that BCH is getting back on its feet gradually or is it just another quick pump?

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Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 07, 2017, 05:48:47 AM

It would be interesting if there will be another coin splits Grin

https://news.bitcoin.com/segwit2x-and-the-tale-of-three-bitcoins/

Do you think it will happen?
WHat do you think?

Bitcoin Cash is an afterthought. It's an altcoin without much support from any of the ecosystem (users, services, miners). I'm much more interested (and slightly worried) about Segwit2x. A lot of bitcoiners are against hard forks 100%, and after having it explained to me a few different times, I can sympathize with that.

But it seems like the vast majority of miners and Bitcoin businesses are behind the Silbert agreement. That sounds like a recipe for a split! If Segwit and the improvements it brings (along with LN) alleviate congestion on the network with real scalable solutions, I could see miners and companies defecting from Segwit2x. For now, though, anything could happen.

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Quote from: hv_ on August 07, 2017, 08:49:24 AM

Sigh ... and just because you slap 'core' on some code it does not need to be good or consensus....

You're an idiot. Why are you still on this forum?

Quote from: hv_ on August 07, 2017, 08:49:24 AM

The NYA is active consensus - go play with your pets and do not destroy Bitcoin (Cash or notCash).

There is no consensus on the 2x part. You can't force consensus changes on the people.

Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 08, 2017, 12:26:52 AM

Bitcoin cash regards themselves as the real bitcoin.
And I also believe if they did not use the word "bitcoin", used "bcash" for example, they would fail on the first day. [ no offence just personal opinion ]

What do you think?

If I create an altcoin and name it Bitcoin CATE, and I say it is the real Bitcoin, does that make it so? There you have your answer. Bitcoin Cash is just a premined altcoin.

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I wouldn't be sad at all with one or more forks.

The previous one has been...lucrative, and free money is always welcome

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Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 08, 2017, 12:26:52 AM

Quote from: Lauda on August 07, 2017, 08:36:39 AM

Bullshit. Just because you slap the name Bitcoin in front of some word and premine existing balances, that doesn't mean that it is Bitcoin.

Bitcoin cash regards themselves as the real bitcoin.
And I also believe if they did not use the word "bitcoin", used "bcash" for example, they would fail on the first day. [ no offence just personal opinion ]

What do you think?

in my opinion it is not just the bitcoin name it is also building on top of bitcoin chain!
and it will fail or at the very least have a very tough time in the world of cryptocurrencies because of that. there were 16.4+ million coins available (some call it premine even) and people are dumping that and dumping leads to panic sell and leads to lower and lower prices.
low prices lead to low profit for miners and them leaving and their leaving leaves the network vulnerable. of course there is bitmain with all their hashrate which are backing it up, i am sure.

if they built something from the ground up it would have been a lot more successful than this. it may have even be worth at least 0.5BTC right now. for you see mining from block 0 could have meant no premine, no dump, and even regular users mining it. that is how all the rest of the altcoins work so far.

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Quote from: Lauda on August 07, 2017, 08:36:39 AM

Bullshit. Just because you slap the name Bitcoin in front of some word and premine existing balances, that doesn't mean that it is Bitcoin.

Bitcoin cash regards themselves as the real bitcoin.
And I also believe if they did not use the word "bitcoin", used "bcash" for example, they would fail on the first day. [ no offence just personal opinion ]

What do you think?

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Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 07, 2017, 05:48:47 AM

It would be interesting if there will be another coin splits Grin

https://news.bitcoin.com/segwit2x-and-the-tale-of-three-bitcoins/

Do you think it will happen?
WHat do you think?

I think there is a serious chance that Segwit2x will not be taken up, and that the miners will feel betrayed and turn their hashing power to Bitcoin cash. We are not out of the drama yet

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Quote from: Lauda on August 07, 2017, 08:36:39 AM

The hard fork in November can not happen, and therefore will not happen. There is absolutely near-zero support from the community and likewise from the developers. There will also not be "3 Bitcoin". There is 1 Bitcoin, the rest are altcoins. Bitcoin Cash (aka bcash, aka BCH) will always be an altcoin, and the same will apply for any controversial hard fork.

Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 07, 2017, 06:06:58 AM

but these ones are still regarded as "bitcoin".

Bullshit. Just because you slap the name Bitcoin in front of some word and premine existing balances, that doesn't mean that it is Bitcoin.

Sigh ... and just because you slap 'core' on some code it does not need to be good or consensus....

The NYA is active consensus - go play with your pets and do not destroy Bitcoin (Cash or notCash).

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Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 07, 2017, 08:44:12 AM

That is a problem though.

Another type of attack on Bitcoin*.

Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 07, 2017, 08:44:12 AM

Continually having splits is driving the community apart.

No. A lot of the people who threatened to leave for BCH (unfortunately) did not. The people with common sense will stay with the experts and majority.

Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 07, 2017, 08:44:12 AM

I am keeping an ey eon BCC or BCH or whatever people want to call it. Ihave seen their mempool getting cleared and no one is complaining about their nodes not working or anything. It may turn out to be their max 8MB block size really isn't a problem as many seem to think it is.

1) The mempool is empty because nobody is using that shitcoin. It did get some transaction volume as people were rushing to dump it.
2) A maximum block size of 10 TB can't be a problem if nobody is utilizing it. The same applies for the 8 MB maximum size on their chain.

Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 07, 2017, 08:44:12 AM

Satoshi had it planned for on-chain scaling as his idea for the future. We will see.

Irrelevant, usually miss-quoted and just outright stupid.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on August 07, 2017, 06:50:01 AM

I would not mind if for every fork I would be receiving some free coins into my account in the exchange that can be supporting the new altcoin. However, I think this whole thing has to stop because it will make Bitcoin look like a joker. Anyway, I am sure it would not really happen that way. One split I think is enough. Not unless we want to make this whole thing a big comedy then we can have a good laugh.

That is a problem though. Continually having splits is driving the community apart. There isn't that many of us in this community as it is, and now a lot of people are switching sides and choosing a side to stick with.

I do not think there will be a 3rd split but a lot can change between now and then.

I am keeping an ey eon BCC or BCH or whatever people want to call it. Ihave seen their mempool getting cleared and no one is complaining about their nodes not working or anything. It may turn out to be their max 8MB block size really isn't a problem as many seem to think it is.

At any rate, it is a good test to show what happenes when BCC can do up to 8 MB blocks. I Imagine if they do well for months that a 2MB increase may come to BTC.

Satoshi had it planned for on-chain scaling as his idea for the future. We will see.

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The hard fork in November can not happen, and therefore will not happen. There is absolutely near-zero support from the community and likewise from the developers. There will also not be "3 Bitcoin". There is 1 Bitcoin, the rest are altcoins. Bitcoin Cash (aka bcash, aka BCH) will always be an altcoin, and the same will apply for any controversial hard fork.

Quote from: bitcoin.cash on August 07, 2017, 06:06:58 AM

but these ones are still regarded as "bitcoin".

Bullshit. Just because you slap the name Bitcoin in front of some word and premine existing balances, that doesn't mean that it is Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Red-Apple on August 07, 2017, 07:03:36 AM

Quote from: CryptoBry on August 07, 2017, 06:50:01 AM

I would not mind if for every fork I would be receiving some free coins into my account in the exchange that can be supporting the new altcoin. However, I think this whole thing has to stop because it will make Bitcoin look like a joker. Anyway, I am sure it would not really happen that way. One split I think is enough. Not unless we want to make this whole thing a big comedy then we can have a good laugh.

haha, i am with you on that. the free money is always welcome.

but at the same time this can be a good thing too. for example when things like bitcoin cash fail eventually it proves that when you make a contentious hard fork it is bound to be doomed. and will prevent any similar actions in the future.

Absolutely,such hard forks happening and failure of coins got after it only increases the trust over bitcoin that it could not be destroyed and bitcoin price and demand increases more than it was before.But these people like Roger ver who recently became bitcoin antichrist would never get a lesson and they would still try to do such acts even in the future.

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