Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 1143. (Read 4381874 times)

I'll let other judge for themselves as to the merit of my earlier comments and if the questions have really been answered.


If I understand the fundamental mechanisms by which a decentralized economy around this currency is to succeed (and I do), the only recourse I have to being ripped off is to do what I can to damage the reputation of the scammer. I should think you would also understand that. Besides, if the currency deflates the way I would expect it to were it to be adopted in any meaningful sense, then even 1.0BTC would be quite a sum of money in the future. No matter, your quoted remarks have no place in this discussion, and you know it.

Wrong, we worked on the issue of my miner randomly sending bogus data.

Maybe you should be a little patient in addition to being so careful and diplomatic.
I was actually adressing davidonpda who was talking about charity.
But now I can start to see why he was reacting like that. People getting something for free (namely access to a pool) acting like they're owed speedy service, instant answers and complaining that people are "condescending" to them can get pretty annoying...

The questions you are asking seem to have been previously answered...

You're just going to make a fool of yourself and appear like an impatient and annoying person

Imagining that people will scam you for such tiny amounts is just... funny... in a pretty sad way.

The language barrier is definitely part of the problem, but the entire affair seems to be poorly managed. Coupled with the fact that I have seen no payments for work done over 48 hours ago and that bigger contributors have supposedly been paid, I must conclude that at best you are not competent to manage the pool, and at worst you are selectively distributing money.

(tired) Ok, it was already written, but I'll sumarize:

ad 1) NOW the payments are not bound to blocks. I cannot say which blocks were paid and which not. I KNOW it is not good idea. I'm WORKING ON IT.
ad 2) Probably no. I'm WORKING ON IT.
ad 3) Because you see one 'reward' on your profile. Rewards are accounted directly when block is found, so when sending script start before block is confirmed, payment is sent directly and there is no balance for some others (which maybe worked on older block). Again, I KNOW it is bad. I'm WORKING ON IT.
ad 4) This is beta service. When I prepared this before a week, I did not imagine there will be almost 5000mhash/s so fast! So as proof-of-concept I implemented algorithm described above. It was easiest way to get it work and it work well, until cluster do not find so many blocks faster than network confirm that. Get it now? I KNOW it is bad. I apologize. I'm WORKING ON IT. But again, this definitely does not mean you lost your rewards. After I start new accounting engine (maybe today, maybe tomorrow, because it really needs testing), all payments will be definitely cleared after all blocks become confirmed.


No, they were already answered, but not in so compact form, it's true.


I know what you mean, but this is definitely not scam. I must be an idiot to steal this way. There are much better ways how to steal you all. Most of them all one-liners. These problems are pure technical. And trust me, I spent much more time on this service last two weeks, so stealing few bitcoins is absolutely pointless. I care about pool future. Let's see if long-term statistics show that I'm honest person.


Sorry, but I'm doing my best .


Your choice. This is definitely not scam.

To be fair, I have received rewards as recently as 12 hours ago.

edit: Here's the transaction.

Agreed. Let's let him answer the questions, which I will restate here:

Slush, can you please answer the following questions?

• For which blocks have payments been made?
• Have payments been made for all matured blocks?
• If not, why not?
• If not, when will you settle your debts?

These questions remained unanswered.

I can understand why. You contribute much to the pool and provide a veneer of legitimacy which makes it easier to lure contributors. He'll make sure the "big guns" are paid but skim the little guys.

I have been very careful and restrained in everything I have written. So have all others complaining. Please do not ask people who are being extremely calm (and have reasons not to be) to "chill down a bit." It is condescending.

Unsatisfactory. You are now clearly evading the questions.

I understand that English is not your first language, but the unfortunate choice of words here made me smile.

Oh, I think I get it just fine. And I have already disassociated myself from your scam.

Nope. I am going to make sure people know what is going on and will continue point out that you refuse to answer legitimate questions.

Your current reward is 5.82180106. If you mean 'expected reward', it is cleared every round we started. We found next block before few minutes.

@Other guys. I don't answer this because it is absolutely useless. I already post statement that I'm working on it hardly. If you don't get it, disconnect from pool, if you want. But shut up please.

People seem to expect some level of transparence because they're contributing something. Seems normal to me.

What are you talking about ?
Pooled generation is a good way for newcomers to get excited about something.
I contribute ~600mh/s to the pool, am I more entitled to ask questions ?
Chill down and be nice to newcomers, they are the ones that are going to turn an interesting experiment into a real economy.

Feel free to do just that in your own pool...

Why don't you just let slush answer anyway ? He's always been helpful to me and sent the balance that was displayed in my account.
I don't really care either way, generating by myself or in a pool, I find it a fun experiment that has the potential to interest newcomers before they get to realize what bitcoin is really about.

People asking questions should also chill down a bit

What just happened? The amount my 'Reward' field just decreased without any BC's being sent out.

Was the reward field previously = balance + expected reward ?

Bober, that means it is working. The output will be different when you get a share and your profile will be updated with your share number and reward amount.

He already implements essentially this. The above implication was for some greater sum, by my understanding.

How do I know if the CPU miner is working?

Because sub 0.01 amounts will end up in the transaction paying process anyway so there's no point in paying them out.

For good reason.

You will need to provide a citation for this assertion.

Some charity this it. "Be glad you get anything at all, and if you aren't paid, don't have the nerve to complain about it."

Why?

He's been coming onto the forums and crowing about successful coin generation and successful payments and yet somehow my address is never listed and I never see the money. The first coin I contributed to was generated on the 17th and now its the 19th. 24 hours has passed. Regardless, there was not a 24 hour delay, he was supposedly paying every six hours right after generation up until earlier today.


Strange kind of charity where I use my electricity to mine coins for him.

Anyway, if I see the money then fine but until then I have to assume that this is just a scam.

This is a good point. I'm going to stop contributing until I see my reward is actually paid to me. It's got to the point where I don't trust the system at all.

I strongly suggest that everyone who isn't getting paid stop contributing immediately until this issue is resolved.

It's only ~2BTC, which is about $0.60 so no hard feelings. I knew the risk when I started.

All unverifiable. To earn trust, he should provide money to the people who earned it.

Let's not forget that he currently owes at least a few people some money. To those people, his service is in fact not free. Am I supposed to ignore the complete lack of forthrightness in his responses to repeated inquiries concerning why money isn't being distributed? He hasn't even attempted to answered my questions. I will pose my questions as clearly as possible.

Slush, can you please answer the following questions?

• For which blocks have payments been made?
• Have payments been made for all matured blocks?
• If not, why not?
• If not, when will you settle your debts?

I made little tweak in server settings, I hope it will be at least less often.

Of course, if the pool is legitimate, we will all appreciate the hard work, but one must earn trust. Let's be mindful of the big picture surrounding bitcoin.


He has not shown that.


Nobody has asked for any such thing. However, the issue here is trust; I don't think trust is bullshit. Surely, this must have occurred to you.

Thanks for your support! I appreciate it. Accounting rewards after block maturity is exactly what I'm working on. But I have to test a lot otherwise people will definitely kill me (too bad I have my location on bitcoinmap.com :-D).

Cool! During this post we found new block!