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Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 288. (Read 4382786 times)

hero member
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I don't understand how bitminter can win block 312400 and our find becomes orphaned.

Slush reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:11

Bitminter reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:58

That's 47 seconds later than us. I can understand if the time between two pools finding the same block is very short, but 47 seconds?

https://blockchain.info/block-height/312400

Block timestamps should not be considered the actual times they were made.  The timestamp for the block is part of your header data before you start hashing it, and is based off the pool server's clock.  It also doesn't have to be updated as you continue to hash.  Blockchain.info used to have 'Received time' vs 'Timestamp', but for the last few months that has been broken and they just use the timestamp for both.

Thanks for the info eleuthria. So from blockchain.info there is no way (currently) to tell who actually reported the block first?
Any idea when Received time will be fixed or if it is even a priority?
hero member
Activity: 546
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Anyone who recently put S3's on here needs to check out https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8041024 if they haven't seen the post on how to reduce all the discarded shares. Simple as ssh into the miner and adding/changing parameters to line 75 of cgminer file. dropped mine easily 10x.
legendary
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I don't understand how bitminter can win block 312400 and our find becomes orphaned.

Slush reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:11

Bitminter reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:58

That's 47 seconds later than us. I can understand if the time between two pools finding the same block is very short, but 47 seconds?

https://blockchain.info/block-height/312400

Block timestamps should not be considered the actual times they were made.  The timestamp for the block is part of your header data before you start hashing it, and is based off the pool server's clock.  It also doesn't have to be updated as you continue to hash.  Blockchain.info used to have 'Received time' vs 'Timestamp', but for the last few months that has been broken and they just use the timestamp for both.
newbie
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looks like we made it through.  good luck for a better day.
copper member
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Clueless!
12 and a half hours on that block now..... annoying.

add the 2 invalid blocks and we can have a 'pity party' sucks last day or so that such will fall on me thinks?


Searing
newbie
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to wake up to nothing, argh!
newbie
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Merit: 0
12 and a half hours on that block now..... annoying.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
I don't understand how bitminter can win block 312400 and our find becomes orphaned.

Slush reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:11

Bitminter reported 312400 at

2014-07-25 09:02:58

That's 47 seconds later than us. I can understand if the time between two pools finding the same block is very short, but 47 seconds?

https://blockchain.info/block-height/312400
newbie
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Slush pool is doing great considering the recent difficulty and hash power increases!

And now lots of luck hunters have gone, our find rate will increase - always happens...

Given the clear pattern, maybe they are luck killing block withholders, not luck seekers?
sr. member
Activity: 475
Merit: 250
It's too quiet. Not even the guy who posts every time an invalid/orphaned block gets us. I hope he's ok.

that's funny cuz its true

2 invalid blocks in one day....


er 22506 and 22510 i think they are right...i gather they are gonna stay invalid (damn it)

Searing


that's not funny cuz it's true
copper member
Activity: 2898
Merit: 1465
Clueless!
It's too quiet. Not even the guy who posts every time an invalid/orphaned block gets us. I hope he's ok.

that's funny cuz its true

2 invalid blocks in one day....


er 22506 and 22510 i think they are right...i gather they are gonna stay invalid (damn it)

Searing
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
I like it, it works fine. Reliable and steady.
S3 can get the same GH/s for about 2/3 the cost, and I am just tired of $600 plus electric bills.
The S2 is a fine 55nm miner, I just want to migrate to 28nm.



I see, thanks, cant wait to see my first bill.

I know what you mean about tracking a package from China.  Not sure why its so thrilling but tracking direct from china to my home in less time than a domestic package is just killer.  Both my S1 and S2 are amazingly well made and came flawless. I am  very impressed by this company and I'm sure they'll will make a nice show piece at some time Smiley
jr. member
Activity: 50
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I like it, it works fine. Reliable and steady.
S3 can get the same GH/s for about 2/3 the cost, and I am just tired of $600 plus electric bills.
The S2 is a fine 55nm miner, I just want to migrate to 28nm.

newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Slush pool is doing great considering the recent difficulty and hash power increases!

And now lots of luck hunters have gone, our find rate will increase - always happens...

Indeed. I tend to "set it and forget it" when it comes to my BTC miners and Slush pool.
So long as they are still mining and being reported on my dashboard, I am cool.

Every pool has their luck, whether good/bad/indifferent, lol.
Patience is a BIG part of mining, even when mining gold, diamonds and platinum...takes time to uncover those rich veins hidden by layers upon layers of rock!

That's my approach now as well.  Never expected to become obsessed or spend so much time on this.  Time is money as well so I need to back off.  Since I started with 30G, moved to 180, now I have 1.2T I am in the honeymoon phase of actually scoring "big" (haha).

Haha good luck man.  I had much lweor hash last year and I used to make like .01 a day but then it started dwindling to like .0001 per night and then it basically became too frustrating and useless to mine so I gave up.  Just know that your hardware is going to slowly become obsolete and the difficulty will keep going up so don't think the profits will last forever.  Good luck!

I hear ya, haven't seen my electric bill yet but getting about .006 a day so this may end up as a hobby, thanks, as I could easily get wrapped up obsessed with more power, probably end the expense here.

Oops .006 a round, about 5-7 rounds a day.  So steady at about .03 a day for now.  

Upgrading with cash is a pain. First you have to have to cash, then for some companies like Bitmaintech, you have to convert the cash to Bitcoins to place your order, all of which takes a little time and stress. BTCJam is an alternative. You can get a loan for a few bitcoins and order new miners, with the plan to pay back the loan with your increased earnings. I would never do that with a pre-order company like Butterfly, but I would for companies like Bitmaintech. I ordered 8 of the new S3 miners with loans from BTCJam, and got money for 6 of them on BTCJam. 4 have arrived already and the next 4 will be here Monday. As a plus, the S1's still have some value, and I sold all 7 of mine on Craigslist for about $800.

For what it is worth, I have now purchased a total of 15 miners from them factory direct from China, and they all have shipped when promised. It is almost as addictive tracking shipments on UPS and watching them go from China to Alaska to Kentucky to Atlanta, as it checking stats on Slush :-)

I highly recommend the S3. The 4 I have are running very well, each getting about 440 GH/s. Batch 4 is already sold out but Batch 5 is open and will ship August 7th +/-.

I don't have a relationship with Bitmain or BTCJam, that is just what I did to keep my mining meaningful. It will take me from 2 TH/s, which barely pays the electric bill now, to ~5 TH/s, which will (the missing 1 TH/s is from 1 S2), plus pay the BTCJam loans (key to pay back early while 5 TH/s makes money), and have a little extra to invest on BTCJam for future use.

Now if I can just find someone to buy the S2 ....
Most


What about the S2 don't you like?  I just got one and while its my first month it seems to mine well.  
jr. member
Activity: 50
Merit: 1
It's too quiet. Not even the guy who posts every time an invalid/orphaned block gets us. I hope he's ok.

that's funny cuz its true

2 invalid blocks in one day....

Yep, and 2 valid ones in the last 30 minutes :-)
hero member
Activity: 818
Merit: 508
It's too quiet. Not even the guy who posts every time an invalid/orphaned block gets us. I hope he's ok.

that's funny cuz its true

2 invalid blocks in one day....
full member
Activity: 178
Merit: 100
2 invalid blocks on 25 July  Sad Sad Sad
jr. member
Activity: 50
Merit: 1
hi guys, I just started doing bit of mining for fun. Currently running few R-Boxes and have S3 on the way.

I am using Slush's pool and I wanted to ask, is there any nice visual representation in form of graphs that would show me what my current average rewards are ? It would be nice to see especially after few weeks how I am tracking.

The Graphs tab on the Slush website is useful for this. Check it out if you have not already. It graphs daily payouts and moving 7 day average.
jr. member
Activity: 50
Merit: 1
Slush pool is doing great considering the recent difficulty and hash power increases!

And now lots of luck hunters have gone, our find rate will increase - always happens...

Indeed. I tend to "set it and forget it" when it comes to my BTC miners and Slush pool.
So long as they are still mining and being reported on my dashboard, I am cool.

Every pool has their luck, whether good/bad/indifferent, lol.
Patience is a BIG part of mining, even when mining gold, diamonds and platinum...takes time to uncover those rich veins hidden by layers upon layers of rock!

That's my approach now as well.  Never expected to become obsessed or spend so much time on this.  Time is money as well so I need to back off.  Since I started with 30G, moved to 180, now I have 1.2T I am in the honeymoon phase of actually scoring "big" (haha).

Haha good luck man.  I had much lweor hash last year and I used to make like .01 a day but then it started dwindling to like .0001 per night and then it basically became too frustrating and useless to mine so I gave up.  Just know that your hardware is going to slowly become obsolete and the difficulty will keep going up so don't think the profits will last forever.  Good luck!

I hear ya, haven't seen my electric bill yet but getting about .006 a day so this may end up as a hobby, thanks, as I could easily get wrapped up obsessed with more power, probably end the expense here.

Oops .006 a round, about 5-7 rounds a day.  So steady at about .03 a day for now. 

Upgrading with cash is a pain. First you have to have to cash, then for some companies like Bitmaintech, you have to convert the cash to Bitcoins to place your order, all of which takes a little time and stress. BTCJam is an alternative. You can get a loan for a few bitcoins and order new miners, with the plan to pay back the loan with your increased earnings. I would never do that with a pre-order company like Butterfly, but I would for companies like Bitmaintech. I ordered 8 of the new S3 miners with loans from BTCJam, and got money for 6 of them on BTCJam. 4 have arrived already and the next 4 will be here Monday. As a plus, the S1's still have some value, and I sold all 7 of mine on Craigslist for about $800.

For what it is worth, I have now purchased a total of 15 miners from them factory direct from China, and they all have shipped when promised. It is almost as addictive tracking shipments on UPS and watching them go from China to Alaska to Kentucky to Atlanta, as it checking stats on Slush :-)

I highly recommend the S3. The 4 I have are running very well, each getting about 440 GH/s. Batch 4 is already sold out but Batch 5 is open and will ship August 7th +/-.

I don't have a relationship with Bitmain or BTCJam, that is just what I did to keep my mining meaningful. It will take me from 2 TH/s, which barely pays the electric bill now, to ~5 TH/s, which will (the missing 1 TH/s is from 1 S2), plus pay the BTCJam loans (key to pay back early while 5 TH/s makes money), and have a little extra to invest on BTCJam for future use.

Now if I can just find someone to buy the S2 ....
sr. member
Activity: 475
Merit: 250
It's too quiet. Not even the guy who posts every time an invalid/orphaned block gets us. I hope he's ok.

that's funny cuz its true
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