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Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 469. (Read 4382714 times)

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If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
You haven't got confirmed BTC from it.  It will be deducted from the total as soon as it is flagged as Invalid.

Rather galling, considering that our result was timed first (by one second).

You can send ghash.io your thanks on that one.  Their connectivity with the majority of nodes/pools is downright malicious in how bad it is.

How can ghash.io negatively influence another pool's orphan rate? I can see how being well connected can reduce their own orphan rate, but how can they increase someone else's orphan rate? 



Most pools are in at least decent datacenters, which happens to mean they have low latencies with the other pools since they're both close to backbone bandwidth providers.  This reduces overall network orphan rate because the average time between block notifications between the majority of the network hash rate is significantly lower than what it would be between people just running on random local ISPs.  At the same time, GHash.io has abysmal latency and/or absolutely no peers setup between pools, or they're purposely ignoring competing blocks sometimes based on the sheer number of orphan races they compete in.  This is based on admittedly more casual observation rather than deep analysis, but I know other pool ops have been seeing more losing orphan races than usual as a result of ghash.io.

Hopefully ghash.io is not testing out the selfish mining strategy...
legendary
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If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
You haven't got confirmed BTC from it.  It will be deducted from the total as soon as it is flagged as Invalid.

Rather galling, considering that our result was timed first (by one second).

You can send ghash.io your thanks on that one.  Their connectivity with the majority of nodes/pools is downright malicious in how bad it is.

How can ghash.io negatively influence another pool's orphan rate? I can see how being well connected can reduce their own orphan rate, but how can they increase someone else's orphan rate? 



Most pools are in at least decent datacenters, which happens to mean they have low latencies with the other pools since they're both close to backbone bandwidth providers.  This reduces overall network orphan rate because the average time between block notifications between the majority of the network hash rate is significantly lower than what it would be between people just running on random local ISPs.  At the same time, GHash.io has abysmal latency and/or absolutely no peers setup between pools, or they're purposely ignoring competing blocks sometimes based on the sheer number of orphan races they compete in.  This is based on admittedly more casual observation rather than deep analysis, but I know other pool ops have been seeing more losing orphan races than usual as a result of ghash.io.
donator
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Poor impulse control.
If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
You haven't got confirmed BTC from it.  It will be deducted from the total as soon as it is flagged as Invalid.

Rather galling, considering that our result was timed first (by one second).

You can send ghash.io your thanks on that one.  Their connectivity with the majority of nodes/pools is downright malicious in how bad it is.

How can ghash.io negatively influence another pool's orphan rate? I can see how being well connected can reduce their own orphan rate, but how can they increase someone else's orphan rate? 

legendary
Activity: 1750
Merit: 1007
If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
You haven't got confirmed BTC from it.  It will be deducted from the total as soon as it is flagged as Invalid.

Rather galling, considering that our result was timed first (by one second).

You can send ghash.io your thanks on that one.  Their connectivity with the majority of nodes/pools is downright malicious in how bad it is.
newbie
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If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
Rather galling, considering that our result was timed first (by one second).

Shouldn't that make it our block?
full member
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If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
You haven't got confirmed BTC from it.  It will be deducted from the total as soon as it is flagged as Invalid.

Rather galling, considering that our result was timed first (by one second).
sr. member
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If it was orphaned, why did I just get BTC from it??? Will they take that back?
full member
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Brony Bitcoin, Litecoin Miner
Four blocks found in an hour and a half.

gg pool  Cool

One of them is an orphan...... no rewards coming from that block.

http://blockchain.info/block/000000000000000203a44d84c90d2f1e31b10d03fa1493d3f42c53ce219835a9?site=slush

Block: 275684
newbie
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Four blocks found in an hour and a half.

gg pool  Cool
KNK
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One and half hours past noon (UTC) and we have still only two blocks today...
It was so close, to celebrate the 3-rd year with 3 rounds, but there is still time to make a record for the daily luck ... the lowest I saw by now was 46% or 43% [/sick humor]

Happy Birthday to the pool, I wish you (and to all of us pool members) to grow in number of rounds per day, members and hashrate, never being DoS-ed and pool servers never crash!
full member
Activity: 221
Merit: 100
Wonder if Slush will  offer pool members TREZOR discounts.
It would have to be a big discount; the exchange rate is at present more than four times what it was when the Trezor was first advertised, making it a very expensive gadget indeed.  I would be surprised if anybody would wish to buy, however good it is.
newbie
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Wonder if Slush will  offer pool members TREZOR discounts.
sr. member
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The invalid block 275487 seems to be rewarded now.

Edit: If I'm not mistaken.

Btw, not much luck on this toll-free day till now.

275487 must have been recalculated in some way, the reward differs from its previous value.
Not much, but it differs.
sr. member
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“Blockchain Just Entered The Real World”
cause the sky is falling
sr. member
Activity: 311
Merit: 250
One and half hours past noon (UTC) and we have still only two blocks today...

If anybody has come to see our pool today, he must be disappointed.
Not very good celebration this way... :-)
sr. member
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Merit: 250
The invalid block 275487 seems to be rewarded now.

Edit: If I'm not mistaken.

Btw, not much luck on this toll-free day till now.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Son of a...

21197   2013-12-17 20:06:35   2:40:22   1075489111   70632   0.00158121   275487   25.06234798    invalid

I don't see why though. The last one that was invalid said it was orphaned, but this one doesn't show any issues and that it belongs to Slush - what am I missing?

http://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000003c2a2788e78db62900991aa9357a248d7b88d276ecbaa7cfd?site=slush
+1
blockchain.info maybe inaccurate, however you are right that it offers no clues as to why this one is invalid... Cry

yeah an 11 hr block and invalid block a bad day to get 0% fee (good day for slush thou)

Searing

yeah that was a killer round for sure, and hope we see why the invalid block was not slush's
copper member
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Clueless!
Son of a...

21197   2013-12-17 20:06:35   2:40:22   1075489111   70632   0.00158121   275487   25.06234798    invalid

I don't see why though. The last one that was invalid said it was orphaned, but this one doesn't show any issues and that it belongs to Slush - what am I missing?

http://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000003c2a2788e78db62900991aa9357a248d7b88d276ecbaa7cfd?site=slush
+1
blockchain.info maybe inaccurate, however you are right that it offers no clues as to why this one is invalid... Cry

yeah an 11 hr block and invalid block a bad day to get 0% fee (good day for slush thou)

Searing
hero member
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Merit: 500
Son of a...

21197   2013-12-17 20:06:35   2:40:22   1075489111   70632   0.00158121   275487   25.06234798    invalid

I don't see why though. The last one that was invalid said it was orphaned, but this one doesn't show any issues and that it belongs to Slush - what am I missing?

http://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000003c2a2788e78db62900991aa9357a248d7b88d276ecbaa7cfd?site=slush
+1
blockchain.info maybe inaccurate, however you are right that it offers no clues as to why this one is invalid... Cry
newbie
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Merit: 0
Son of a...

21197   2013-12-17 20:06:35   2:40:22   1075489111   70632   0.00158121   275487   25.06234798    invalid

I don't see why though. The last one that was invalid said it was orphaned, but this one doesn't show any issues and that it belongs to Slush - what am I missing?

http://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000003c2a2788e78db62900991aa9357a248d7b88d276ecbaa7cfd?site=slush
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