[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 730.

slush

legendary

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Merit: 1097

Hi all, I've been quiet here on forum because of work and family problems in recent days, but I was monitoring the pool closely. I'm just telling you that I'm actively solving the problem of high invalids and I'll inform you later about the progress.

sgbullion

newbie

Activity: 56

Merit: 0

Sorry if this is a dumb question but I start at the beginning of every round because I leave my miner running 24/7 and my score goes up and up and up and my reward goes down not sure why there is an inverted relationship between the two. I know I have a slow hash rate but I've got new mining equipment coming so I figured start slow to learn the process. Huh

Flatlinezor

member

Activity: 84

Merit: 10

Funny quote

Gotta love these 5 hour rounds though :/ Of course it is when I join the pool.... Since 20 hours, instead of 0.45 i got 0.18 Sad

Variance, I hate you Cheesy

Paulizei

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

Quote from: Flatlinezor on May 21, 2013, 06:23:12 AM

Ouch. I would not sacrifice stratum for getwork, so I can have NMC as well I suppose...

You don't have to give up stratum. Just add your nmc adress and you're set up for merged mining.
https://mining.bitcoin.cz/what-is-namecoin

Lucko

hero member

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Quote from: Flatlinezor on May 21, 2013, 06:23:12 AM

Ouch. I would not sacrifice stratum for getwork, so I can have NMC as well I suppose...

You can. Just add NMC address and you will get it. Not much but some. Or look for the pool that have NMC on stratum. When I given up on Slush do to errors I moved to Bitparking. You have NMC, IXC and DEV on stratum. BTC is DGM and others are PPS... It is now about 10% extra...

Flatlinezor

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Funny quote

Quote from: Paulizei on May 21, 2013, 05:47:19 AM

Quote from: Flatlinezor on May 21, 2013, 05:37:58 AM

Guys, sorry to ask, but I can't seem to be able to set up namecoin merged mining with slush's pool for the life of me. I am a miner of many types of coins, but nmc doesn't seem to be activated for some reason.

This is what I did:

I have set the namecoin address to my BTC-e nmc deposit address, I have downloaded namecoind, i made the bitcoin.conf file (user and password can be anything right? i mean anything that is not slush's login and password for a worker...), everything in it is as it should be, NO server=1 so no solo mining.

It launches, the cursor blinks, but i don't get any shares. And btw, how do I set namecoinD to handle the btc-e address? I have a feeling somehow I should let the exe know that that is my address where it should accumulate NMC...

Any help please?

(Using stratum, 7 workers, i guess I should setup namecoind for ALL the workers ((every worker is a machine with 3 cards)), but I have yet to succeed in one's setup, that's why I ask for help...)

You are automatically participating in merged mining here at slush's pool just by entering a valid Namecoin Adress. No need to setup your namecoind-client.

It takes some time for slush's Server to nmc-enable your account which you'll see on stats page. There will be an additional column (Your NMC reward).

Then you just can sit back and watch NMCs getting mined which will take up to several days for each block as you can see here (https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/nmc/)

Good luck and happy mining

Ouch. I would not sacrifice stratum for getwork, so I can have NMC as well I suppose...

Lucko

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 1000

Quote from: GuiltySpark343 on May 21, 2013, 05:42:26 AM

Quote from: Flatlinezor on May 21, 2013, 05:37:58 AM

(Using stratum, 7 workers, i guess I should setup namecoind for ALL the workers ((every worker is a machine with 3 cards)), but I have yet to succeed in one's setup, that's why I ask for help...)

At Slush, NMC merge mining only supported on getwork, not stratum. So use getwork server if you want to merge mine.

Not true. Anyone who have NMC address get them but only getwork si contributing to NMC. So snice there is only 2% of the pool getwork you will get weary little NMC.

For the client look at Ufasoft Coin. It is for multiple coins and it is GUI not command line as NMC client. The only problem I have is that when it is downloading chain from internet uses HDD all the time so computer is weary slow.

EDIT: getwork is 10% fee so don't use it.

Paulizei

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

Quote from: Flatlinezor on May 21, 2013, 05:37:58 AM

Guys, sorry to ask, but I can't seem to be able to set up namecoin merged mining with slush's pool for the life of me. I am a miner of many types of coins, but nmc doesn't seem to be activated for some reason.

This is what I did:

I have set the namecoin address to my BTC-e nmc deposit address, I have downloaded namecoind, i made the bitcoin.conf file (user and password can be anything right? i mean anything that is not slush's login and password for a worker...), everything in it is as it should be, NO server=1 so no solo mining.

It launches, the cursor blinks, but i don't get any shares. And btw, how do I set namecoinD to handle the btc-e address? I have a feeling somehow I should let the exe know that that is my address where it should accumulate NMC...

Any help please?

(Using stratum, 7 workers, i guess I should setup namecoind for ALL the workers ((every worker is a machine with 3 cards)), but I have yet to succeed in one's setup, that's why I ask for help...)

You are automatically participating in merged mining here at slush's pool just by entering a valid Namecoin Adress. No need to setup your namecoind-client.

It takes some time for slush's Server to nmc-enable your account which you'll see on stats page. There will be an additional column (Your NMC reward).

Then you just can sit back and watch NMCs getting mined which will take up to several days for each block as you can see here (https://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/nmc/)

Good luck and happy mining

GuiltySpark343

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

Quote from: Flatlinezor on May 21, 2013, 05:37:58 AM

(Using stratum, 7 workers, i guess I should setup namecoind for ALL the workers ((every worker is a machine with 3 cards)), but I have yet to succeed in one's setup, that's why I ask for help...)

At Slush, NMC merge mining only supported on getwork, not stratum. So use getwork server if you want to merge mine.

Flatlinezor

member

Activity: 84

Merit: 10

Funny quote

Guys, sorry to ask, but I can't seem to be able to set up namecoin merged mining with slush's pool for the life of me. I am a miner of many types of coins, but nmc doesn't seem to be activated for some reason.

This is what I did:

I have set the namecoin address to my BTC-e nmc deposit address, I have downloaded namecoind, i made the bitcoin.conf file (user and password can be anything right? i mean anything that is not slush's login and password for a worker...), everything in it is as it should be, NO server=1 so no solo mining.

It launches, the cursor blinks, but i don't get any shares. And btw, how do I set namecoinD to handle the btc-e address? I have a feeling somehow I should let the exe know that that is my address where it should accumulate NMC...

Any help please?

(Using stratum, 7 workers, i guess I should setup namecoind for ALL the workers ((every worker is a machine with 3 cards)), but I have yet to succeed in one's setup, that's why I ask for help...)

Paulizei

member

Activity: 98

Merit: 10

Quote from: madkind on May 21, 2013, 03:51:57 AM

Our luck was pretty good yesterday by the way.

But almost neutralized by invalid blocks :-(

madkind

newbie

Activity: 42

Merit: 0

Our luck was pretty good yesterday by the way.

KNK

hero member

Activity: 692

Merit: 502

Yes, if you have stopped your miner before the block was found and your shares are at the beginning of the round.
This is by design - to discourage pool hoppers.

Lucko

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 1000

Quote from: dermo on May 21, 2013, 03:32:18 AM

Hi I'm new on Slush and I've a question

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18126    2013-05-20 23:56:19    5:08:08    40008778    1131    0.00000000    237117    25.29529000    47 confirmations restantes
18125    2013-05-20 18:48:11    0:47:00    6167846    410    0.00158030    237091    25.16012000    21 confirmations restantes
18124    2013-05-20 18:01:11    0:20:19    2710128    175    0.00156909    237085    25.50114308    15 confirmations restantes
18123    2013-05-20 17:40:52    0:28:59    3830577    237    0.00176753    237083    25.68120000    13 confirmations restantes
18122    2013-05-20 17:11:53    0:14:28    1890571    121    0.00149906    237081    25.40650000    11 confirmations restantes
18121    2013-05-20 16:57:25    1:19:07    10246620    698    0.00182060    237079    25.32700022    9 confirmations restantes

It's normal to not get rewarded for 1131 shares ?

Sorry if is a dumb question I'm new with mining

Thanks in advance

Yes it is. Look at scoring for Slush method. If you stop mining your score decay fast. From what I can see you stooped about 1 hours 30 minutes into last run. So there were more then 2 times that to the end and that means that your score was so low that you didn't get anything.

dermo

sr. member

Activity: 336

Merit: 250

Hi I'm new on Slush and I've a question

Quote

18126    2013-05-20 23:56:19    5:08:08    40008778    1131    0.00000000    237117    25.29529000    47 confirmations restantes
18125    2013-05-20 18:48:11    0:47:00    6167846    410    0.00158030    237091    25.16012000    21 confirmations restantes
18124    2013-05-20 18:01:11    0:20:19    2710128    175    0.00156909    237085    25.50114308    15 confirmations restantes
18123    2013-05-20 17:40:52    0:28:59    3830577    237    0.00176753    237083    25.68120000    13 confirmations restantes
18122    2013-05-20 17:11:53    0:14:28    1890571    121    0.00149906    237081    25.40650000    11 confirmations restantes
18121    2013-05-20 16:57:25    1:19:07    10246620    698    0.00182060    237079    25.32700022    9 confirmations restantes

It's normal to not get rewarded for 1131 shares ?

Sorry if is a dumb question I'm new with mining

Thanks in advance

Lucko

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 1000

Quote from: KNK on May 21, 2013, 02:25:26 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on May 21, 2013, 02:11:54 AM

For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?

And the actual payout depend on the actual (luck) number of blocks found if the pool is not PPS. What you say is perfectly valid for PPS, but Slush is not PPS.
For pool mining (and not PPS) it is blocks found for the day * the miner's part from the total pool hashrate.
What i mean is that with these numbers, each miner on Slush got more than if they were on Bitminter

EDIT: @Lucko "Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days): 89%, 87%, 98%" even with such a bad luck

OK so what you are saying is that you get more when luck is good. I do agree. I got 2 times normal yesterday since pool had 200% luck. But I know that that will change and I'm not expecting that every day. So will the Bitminter luck changed. It was even 30% less then Slush and so on. With 100% luck you still get the same-fee - some small variations caused by scoring method... So I relay don't see your point. Yes Slush luck is better then Bitminter and that is it. Unless you are just saying that.

Yes with current figures 55% of nonSlush miners have better luck and 45% have less luck then Slush miners...

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: KNK on May 21, 2013, 02:25:26 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on May 21, 2013, 02:11:54 AM

For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?

And the actual payout depend on the actual (luck) number of blocks found if the pool is not PPS. What you say is perfectly valid for PPS, but Slush is not PPS.
For pool mining (and not PPS) it is blocks found for the day * the miner's part from the total pool hashrate.
What i mean is that with these numbers, each miner on Slush got more than if they were on Bitminter

EDIT: @Lucko "Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days): 89%, 87%, 98%" even with such a bad luck

Sorry, I misunderstood. There's a misconception that a higher hashrate means that miners get paid less, and I thought you were referring to that.

KNK

hero member

Activity: 692

Merit: 502

Quote from: organofcorti on May 21, 2013, 02:11:54 AM

For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?

And the actual payout depend on the actual (luck) number of blocks found if the pool is not PPS. What you say is perfectly valid for PPS, but Slush is not PPS.
For pool mining (and not PPS) it is blocks found for the day * the miner's part from the total pool hashrate.
What i mean is that with these numbers, each miner on Slush got more than if they were on Bitminter

EDIT: @Lucko "Pool luck (1 day, 7 days, 30 days): 89%, 87%, 98%" even with such a bad luck

Lucko

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 1000

Quote from: KNK on May 21, 2013, 02:03:04 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on May 21, 2013, 01:49:54 AM

Quote from: vs3 on May 21, 2013, 01:29:21 AM

For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) [ ... ]

No, similar payout per Mhps. More per block, but fewer blocks.

Hmmm how is that?
15-1 = 17-3 or someone changed the math laws while i sleep?
We have the same number of valid blocks for ~75% hashrate

You are not counting the luck in. If you would you get the same.

organofcorti

donator

Activity: 2058

Merit: 1007

Poor impulse control.

Quote from: KNK on May 21, 2013, 02:03:04 AM

Quote from: organofcorti on May 21, 2013, 01:49:54 AM

Quote from: vs3 on May 21, 2013, 01:29:21 AM

For the 20th:
Bitminter: 15 blocks found, 1 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 12.5TH/s
Slush's : 17 blocks found, 3 orphaned (invalid), hashrate: 9.2TH/s

bottom line: the same number of blocks split among fewer people at Slush (better payout per MH) [ ... ]

No, similar payout per Mhps. More per block, but fewer blocks.

Hmmm how is that?
15-1 = 17-3 or someone changed the math laws while i sleep?
We have the same number of valid blocks for ~75% hashrate

For each miner, the expected payout per share (excluding fees) is B/D, or 25 / current difficulty - irrespective of pool hashrate. Or did you mean something else?

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