I'm hoping after the last few weeks all pools have experienced, he has upgraded his baseball bat to an armored van with mounted turrets.
Right on... The onyl thing I dislike is that we dont have merged mining for nmc, dvcm, ixc on stratum. It would be 10% more income and I don't like losing that and I need to fight myself not to change to some pool that have that... Even Slush would get 10% so I relay don't get his position... 
Topic: [4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 788. (Read 4382675 times)
May 01, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
May 01, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
OK - I'm really not getting how these blocks are being scored.
For two similar blocks - on this block, I got in 115 shares in 2:18 and got .00032359 for it.
17770 2013-04-30 17:34:10 2:18:03 15697265 115 0.00032359
But on this block, I got in more shares (132) in less time (2:03) and there were fewer total shares, but I got 0.000 ??
17774 2013-04-30 20:25:35 2:03:23 14233698 132 0.00000000
it's all timing. here is from a CPU miner and 1 share on 2 different blocks ( mine )For two similar blocks - on this block, I got in 115 shares in 2:18 and got .00032359 for it.
17770 2013-04-30 17:34:10 2:18:03 15697265 115 0.00032359
But on this block, I got in more shares (132) in less time (2:03) and there were fewer total shares, but I got 0.000 ??
17774 2013-04-30 20:25:35 2:03:23 14233698 132 0.00000000
# Block found at Duration Total shares Your shares Your BTC reward Block # Block value
17775 2013-04-30 23:59:52 3:34:17 24772020 1 0.00000369 233974 25.23872222
17774 2013-04-30 20:25:35 2:03:23 14233698 1 0.00000000 233955 25.34648117
I happened to be home to watch as the 2nd share was Near The End of the round ( 80+ in Current shares CDF: )
so, i'll take it and as far as the getting 0E-8 goes, I'm waiting on some 86ooGT cards to hopefully get out of CPU mining and get a higher hash rate.
this is a ' typical ' block for me when sooo many are connected and getting shares.....
17759 2013-04-30 01:20:57 5:01:48 34198356 3 0.00000000 233836 25.46175733
Not detered, more resolved and liking it
17791 2013-05-01 20:01:25 5:00:24 36782329 7 0.00000000 234096 25.58139100
normaly i'd shrug it off due to the over 36 million shares, this time i know at least 2 shares were in the last few min of the round
May 01, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
I've only tried 50BTC and Slush's Pool, but I am certain that I get better rewards here for my efforts. If the rewards where slightly in favor of 50BTC, I would still stay here - When the shit hits the fan, Slush is always ready with his baseball bat to protect the pool.
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I'm hoping after the last few weeks all pools have experienced, he has upgraded his baseball bat to an armored van with mounted turrets.
May 01, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
I've only tried 50BTC and Slush's Pool, but I am certain that I get better rewards here for my efforts. If the rewards where slightly in favor of 50BTC, I would still stay here - When the shit hits the fan, Slush is always ready with his baseball bat to protect the pool.
K.
K.
May 01, 2013, 03:58:55 PM
No my average last week was about 0.053/day but there were outages, etc. Off ~1200MH/s.
Well that caps it for me. In "5% fee" pool, Last week (before reset of Diff.) I was solid at 0.06/24 hours for rig that varies between 1.05 - 1.15GH/s as it adjusts to ambient temp/cooling. No outages on my end - 25/15Mbit fiber link to house. May 01, 2013, 03:54:18 PM
The more i look at it, im thinking the shares set up skews towards high powered miners. Still to prove it with some maths and tests. Last exam is on Tuesday. After that I can have a proper look.
I believe the use of "seconds since round start" is the problem, really. It should really be a function of shares since round start, however that would mean a lot of extra computational effort to keep track of. Use of seconds is a decent approximation, and is fair over the long term (assuming perfect uptime).
May 01, 2013, 03:51:08 PM
I would say for extremely fast blocks yes. Once I lucked out and got a share off a 2s block really nice payout same as 3-4 normal blocks.
May 01, 2013, 03:49:53 PM
The more i look at it, im thinking the shares set up skews towards high powered miners. Still to prove it with some maths and tests. Last exam is on Tuesday. After that I can have a proper look.
If a pool is biased in favor of high performance miners, it is not a fair pool and should be abandoned by all but the single highest performing miner.Hi performance and good connections usually goes hand in hand... So that why you might have that filing...
May 01, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
So at 1 ghs a guy should be at .05-.06 in 8-9hrs? I make that in a day with 950mh/s! I hope that estimate isn't right otherwise something isn't right on my end or the server lol.
No my average last week was about 0.053/day but there were outages, etc. Off ~1200MH/s.
May 01, 2013, 03:38:33 PM
The more i look at it, im thinking the shares set up skews towards high powered miners. Still to prove it with some maths and tests. Last exam is on Tuesday. After that I can have a proper look.
If a pool is biased in favor of high performance miners, it is not a fair pool and should be abandoned by all but the single highest performing miner. May 01, 2013, 03:31:39 PM
So at 1 ghs a guy should be at .05-.06 in 8-9hrs? I make that in a day with 950mh/s! I hope that estimate isn't right otherwise something isn't right on my end or the server lol.
It is for last 18 hours... But only for last 18 hours not for every day... Luck is a component that you need to factor in...EDIT: and you misread. He told us he was on pool for 18 hours...
May 01, 2013, 03:21:15 PM
So at 1 ghs a guy should be at .05-.06 in 8-9hrs? I make that in a day with 950mh/s! I hope that estimate isn't right otherwise something isn't right on my end or the server lol.
May 01, 2013, 03:15:29 PM
May 01, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
I made some investigations and figure out we are loosing more then 10% of income. So I would really appreciated...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/GeI5ke0BENw?feature=player_detailpage
Maybe I just picked a bad time to test Slush's pool. "2% fees" they tell me. I moved over from 5% pool, where payout was 0.02 / 9 hours for my little 1.1GH/s rig. In 18 hours, I've earned 0.019. So maybe this is 50% fees pool?
Leaving as soon as I can get back to my rig.
Well it was a good time. 15 blocks in 18 hours. Unless you were having connection problems or you haven't mind all the time you should be getting 0,05-0,06. Looks at block rewords. Or are you looking at just confirmed reword?
May 01, 2013, 03:12:14 PM
So my miners were down for like 5 minutes last block. i did 3500 shares and got 0 reward.
May 01, 2013, 03:05:08 PM
I made some investigations and figure out we are loosing more then 10% of income. So I would really appreciated...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/GeI5ke0BENw?feature=player_detailpage
Maybe I just picked a bad time to test Slush's pool. "2% fees" they tell me. I moved over from 5% pool, where payout was 0.02 / 9 hours for my little 1.1GH/s rig. In 18 hours, I've earned 0.019. So maybe this is 50% fees pool?
Leaving as soon as I can get back to my rig.
The more i look at it, im thinking the shares set up skews towards high powered miners. Still to prove it with some maths and tests. Last exam is on Tuesday. After that I can have a proper look.
May 01, 2013, 03:03:05 PM
Slush's pool is relatively popular. I'm a small miner, two 16 Mhash workers and one 6 Mhash worker, so i contemplate what being small means, how i am impacted. There are 5Ghash miners coming into existance now. there will be a time where they will reap huge shares until the difficulty adjusts to compensate for them. we had a 32 sec block? either great luck or a fast hasher.
once the difficulty adjusts, Mhashers will obviously become the slow guys, equivalent to the current CPU miners. But, considering the slow deliverys on the Ghash machines it will be sometime before the difficulty adjusts totally in their favor, probably 3-6 months.
The point is that with the fast machines coming into being we are going to see more and more blocks where we've been excluded from the payout or got a really small portion. But, the alternative is not mining. sure you could go to another pool where there is less competion for the share. But, small pools will have less of a chance of finding a block in the first place.
Maybe Slush needs to add more zeroes to the right of the decimal so we feel like we aren't mining for nothing. Or, we just accept that there will be some 0BTC blocks for us little guys. Personally, I like Slush's pool will hang in there. Someday there will be reasonable delivery times on Ghash machines and i'll be able to get some and claw my way back up to the level of the playing field. In the mean time anything that i get is better than not mining. I'm enjoying mining as a hobby, hobbies are rarely profitable.
once the difficulty adjusts, Mhashers will obviously become the slow guys, equivalent to the current CPU miners. But, considering the slow deliverys on the Ghash machines it will be sometime before the difficulty adjusts totally in their favor, probably 3-6 months.
The point is that with the fast machines coming into being we are going to see more and more blocks where we've been excluded from the payout or got a really small portion. But, the alternative is not mining. sure you could go to another pool where there is less competion for the share. But, small pools will have less of a chance of finding a block in the first place.
Maybe Slush needs to add more zeroes to the right of the decimal so we feel like we aren't mining for nothing. Or, we just accept that there will be some 0BTC blocks for us little guys. Personally, I like Slush's pool will hang in there. Someday there will be reasonable delivery times on Ghash machines and i'll be able to get some and claw my way back up to the level of the playing field. In the mean time anything that i get is better than not mining. I'm enjoying mining as a hobby, hobbies are rarely profitable.
What are you mining with? My i5 laptop can get 10+MHash! For a while I had a cluster of dual-core desktops I have access to (I don't pay the leckie and the ToU didn't prohibit it. Stopped when I got a "Theres some strange activity on your account" email from the admin) getting me 100+MHash and there can only have been 25 of them running at most!
May 01, 2013, 03:00:24 PM
I made some investigations and figure out we are loosing more then 10% of income. So I would really appreciated...
https://www.youtube.com/embed/GeI5ke0BENw?feature=player_detailpage
Maybe I just picked a bad time to test Slush's pool. "2% fees" they tell me. I moved over from 5% pool, where payout was 0.02 / 9 hours for my little 1.1GH/s rig. In 18 hours, I've earned 0.019. So maybe this is 50% fees pool?
Leaving as soon as I can get back to my rig.
May 01, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
Also.. want to make a pitch (again) about merged mining nmc, dvcm ixc under stratum. I know they may be dead coins to some, but they still can be converted to btc - at least nmc - because the conversion to btc rate is enough to make it noticable when the btc rates are as high as they are..
+1
I made some investigations and figure out we are loosing more then 10% of income. So I would really appreciated...
Actually i came up with about the same number roughly.
May 01, 2013, 01:29:52 PM
Also.. want to make a pitch (again) about merged mining nmc, dvcm ixc under stratum. I know they may be dead coins to some, but they still can be converted to btc - at least nmc - because the conversion to btc rate is enough to make it noticable when the btc rates are as high as they are..
+1
I made some investigations and figure out we are loosing more then 10% of income. So I would really appreciated...
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