[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 987.

JA37

sr. member

Activity: 378

Merit: 250

Quote from: slush on July 30, 2011, 10:06:34 AM

We got a 9 second block!

And I managed to get a share or two there. Sweet sweet 0.03 BTC.

piotr_n

legendary

Activity: 2053

Merit: 1356

aka tonikt

I see that one of my workers has found 1 block, somewhere in the past..
Is it possible to know which block it was?

pekv2

hero member

Activity: 770

Merit: 502

Quote from: Supercrit on July 29, 2011, 04:27:59 PM

So unlucky lately, so many blocks over 1-2 hours and some over 3!

Yea, yesterday felt like nothing was happening. I was like wth, world stopped moving as balance was not moving.

slush

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1097

We got a 9 second block!

cosurgi

sr. member

Activity: 298

Merit: 250

Quote from: slippyrocks on July 30, 2011, 03:12:45 AM

I think your algorithm is broken I can come in the middle of a two hour block

and get nearly the same payout as someone who has been there the whole

two hours. The older shares are being weighted, scored way way too low.

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so could mine at btc guild for 1hr 50min [see CDF ]payed out proportionally

and then goto slush and be caught up with everyone in a few minutes for

a sweet score based payout

Raulo made proof that this approach will lead you to losses because you don't know when the new block starts on other pool (btcguild and deepbit hide their stats) and because you never know when the block will end on this pool, he wrote some .pdf article about that:

https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=1976.msg50002#msg50002
(it's linked from there)

No matter if round just started or if it's already going for 5 hours, the probability of solving it is still the same.

This approach also allows real-time stats of solved blocks here. With share based payouts, if you knew when block ends you could join for short rounds and get full payout. This is why btcguild and deepbit have hidden stats.

dub0matic

full member

Activity: 182

Merit: 100

yea that pisses me off i get the same share if i'm there 3hrs or 20minutes. i think thats how its suppose to be though lol the newer the share the better i guess

slippyrocks

member

Activity: 69

Merit: 10

respecttheslider

I think your algorithm is broken I can come in the middle of a two hour block

and get nearly the same payout as someone who has been there the whole

two hours. The older shares are being weighted, scored way way too low.

-------------added
so could mine at btc guild for 1hr 50min [see CDF ]payed out proportionally

and then goto slush and be caught up with everyone in a few minutes for

a sweet score based payout

Supercrit

newbie

Activity: 41

Merit: 0

So unlucky lately, so many blocks over 1-2 hours and some over 3! Isn't the average share number around the difficulty number?

slush

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1097

Quote from: kimmeriets on July 29, 2011, 06:46:06 AM

my IP blocked: no site, no work. why?

http://bitcoin.cz - yes
http://mining.bitcoin.cz - no

Please PM me your IP and pool user name, I will double check whitelisting.
How long it is blocked?

kimmeriets

legendary

Activity: 1064

Merit: 1000

my IP blocked: no site, no work. why?

http://bitcoin.cz - yes
http://mining.bitcoin.cz - no

slush

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1097

We are under attack, bear for the fight. One backend just had loadavg above 12.0.

EDIT: ok, I think that problem is fixed now. But I will keep an eye on that. Some of you might have lost connections, but your miners should reconnect automatically.

zx9r

full member

Activity: 153

Merit: 100

Quote from: dacoinminster on July 28, 2011, 12:30:17 PM

Ah, so we have about 42 days (1000 hours) before this is possible if namecoin averages 6 blocks/hour.

1 block each 6 hours is closer to the reality nowadays Grin

Block 20160 is estimated to get reached on 30th November, so block 24k is supposed to get reached more more long than 42 days...

dacoinminster

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1031

Rational Exuberance

Quote from: cosurgi on July 28, 2011, 12:05:19 PM

Quote from: dacoinminster on July 28, 2011, 10:36:03 AM

I haven't seen any discussion of merged mining on other block chains like namecoin here yet (at least, no hits on a search of this thread). Are you working on this?

https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/blob/mergedmine/doc/README_merged-mining.md
http://dot-bit.org/Merged_Mining

Basically, we can earn namecoins and bitcoins at the same time. It sounds crazy, but it appears that there is no loss of bitcoin hashing power when adding namecoin mining. Just additional free profits. The only thing needed to enable this is changes on your end.

Or are we already mining namecoins for you?

This will start working at namecoin block 24000. Current namecoin block is http://explorer.dot-bit.org/ 18000. So still plenty of time - it is impossible for pool to mine minecoin right now.

Also, mining is finding a nonce against a hash of merkle tree of whole block chain. It is not possible that two different chains (namecoin, bitcoin) will have the same hash of merkle tree. You cannot look for a nonce against two different hashes of merkle tree, it must be one of them. Can you point me to the exact description of implementation and math involved, how namecoin has to be modified to get this to work?

Because currently it would be for example spending some percent of total power on minecoin and the rest on bitcoins, which isn't what people want (less hashing power going to bitcoins?).

Ah, so we have about 42 days (1000 hours) before this is possible if namecoin averages 6 blocks/hour.

That's exactly what I thought (that you couldn't have one hash work for both), but I was wrong. I'm not an expert on this, but my understanding is that they will both accept the same hash if it meets their current difficulty requirements. I had to read lots and lots of posts and wiki pages before I finally understood this. One post which helped was here: http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=30294.msg393412#msg393412

Basically, namecoin has been modified to accept bitcoin hashes which contain the namecoin merkle root hash in the bitcoin block. The bitcoin protocol doesn't care, and you get free namecoins for the bitcoin hashing you were already doing.

There will be more and more alternative chains, and miners are going to want to get as much value out of their hashing as they can, so this will become an essential feature. The pools will probably just sell the namecoins for bitcoins, take their cut, and distribute the rest of the extra bitcoins to the miners.

cosurgi

sr. member

Activity: 298

Merit: 250

Quote from: dacoinminster on July 28, 2011, 10:36:03 AM

I haven't seen any discussion of merged mining on other block chains like namecoin here yet (at least, no hits on a search of this thread). Are you working on this?

https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/blob/mergedmine/doc/README_merged-mining.md
http://dot-bit.org/Merged_Mining

Basically, we can earn namecoins and bitcoins at the same time. It sounds crazy, but it appears that there is no loss of bitcoin hashing power when adding namecoin mining. Just additional free profits. The only thing needed to enable this is changes on your end.

Or are we already mining namecoins for you?

This will start working at namecoin block 24000. Current namecoin block is http://explorer.dot-bit.org/ 18000. So still plenty of time - it is impossible for pool to mine minecoin right now.

Also, mining is finding a nonce against a hash of merkle tree of whole block chain. It is not possible that two different chains (namecoin, bitcoin) will have the same hash of merkle tree. You cannot look for a nonce against two different hashes of merkle tree, it must be one of them. Can you point me to the exact description of implementation and math involved, how namecoin has to be modified to get this to work?

Because currently it would be for example spending some percent of total power on minecoin and the rest on bitcoins, which isn't what people want (less hashing power going to bitcoins?).

dacoinminster

legendary

Activity: 1260

Merit: 1031

Rational Exuberance

slush,

I haven't seen any discussion of merged mining on other block chains like namecoin here yet (at least, no hits on a search of this thread). Are you working on this?

https://github.com/vinced/namecoin/blob/mergedmine/doc/README_merged-mining.md
http://dot-bit.org/Merged_Mining

Basically, we can earn namecoins and bitcoins at the same time. It sounds crazy, but it appears that there is no loss of bitcoin hashing power when adding namecoin mining. Just additional free profits. The only thing needed to enable this is changes on your end.

Or are we already mining namecoins for you?

Thanks!

CBBlackWolf

newbie

Activity: 7

Merit: 0

For the two rounds in question, I am still not seeing any reward. I believe I started mining for the day fairly early during the 5 hour round.

Thanks for looking into this issue and all the other work you've put into this pool.

EDIT: Slush credited my account for what was lost during these rounds. In fact, he gave me more than I probably would've earned. Thanks.

smudo

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

Quote from: pekv2 on July 23, 2011, 10:45:54 AM

If I go to https://mining.bitcoin.cz/ or https://mining.bitcoin.cz/accounts/login/?next=/accounts/profile/ , it stays secure but when I login, the website takes me to my account unencrypted. Could you please implement a certified SSL Server Certificate to your site? Also to stick to HTTPS at any given time connected to mining.bitcoin.cz? Or an option to stay connect securely after logging in?

Hi pekv2,

I worked around this bug with the Firefox extension "HTTPS Everywhere" (https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere). In order to work with the pool's site you have to create a custom ruleset (as described at https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere/rulesets).

For mining.bitcoin.cz it looks like this:

Code:

Put this in a file called mining.bitcoin.cz.xml in the HTTPSEverywhereUserRules folder in your Firefox profile. After restart you will only ever see https for the site. Also your cookie will be marked as secure and thus only be sent over https. Maybe you have to log out and in again to have this take effect.

HTH

allinvain

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1080

Thanks for fixing it slush. It seems all is well now.

CyberPhunk

full member

Activity: 124

Merit: 100

Quote from: zzyyxx on July 26, 2011, 04:30:01 PM

you guys fly off the handle awful easy over nothing... a 5 hour block a 5 minute block.

The issue wasn't that we were in a 5 hour block, it was that for over 2 hours the account page wasn't showing a true total of shares submitted. It just stopped counting them, or so it appeared.

Looks good now, Slush.

slush

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1097

OK, the rewards were recalculated. To compansate all moral damages I don't take 2% fee for rounds 6933 and 6934, but instead I give you 1 BTC extra. Those rounds are worth for you 51 BTC each.

If for anyone the rewards for those two rounds were not recalculated correctly, please report here and I will fix this tomorrow.

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