4.5% daily return... What idiot believes this? - page 3.

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Quote from: davida on September 09, 2014, 04:25:00 AM

Quote from: Brewins on September 07, 2014, 03:50:44 PM

Let people put their money wherever they want. This is not a child forum, you know.

Or you should also police the altcoin forum because most coins will die pretty soon, the gambling section because people may lose, the food people eat because it might not be the healthiest option, etc

Anyone seriously invested in altcoins is a lost cause.

Not really.

1- Recognizing legitimate coins before they become popular and pumping them.

OR

2- Pumping and dumping coins as one of the early investors.

A lot of money is to be made if you are among the original few to a decent altcoin, can help pump it and know when to dump it.

It doesn't make sense to invest in most coins if you come in late as they are bound to die soon.

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90% of people are there for signature campaign Tongue

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in defi we trust

Quote from: jaberwock on September 13, 2014, 11:38:43 PM

Quote from: Chris_Sabian on September 13, 2014, 10:19:21 PM

I would like a 4.5% daily return. Seriously, who wouldn't like it? However, it is not true and a scam.

Get real people.

4,5 is only for those with high investments(20k+, if I'm wrong). For the low tier it is only 3%

I think people will get it, the doubt is how long they will keep receiving

Do you honestly believe that there is actually an investment that pays you 3% per day?

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Quote from: Chris_Sabian on September 13, 2014, 10:19:21 PM

I would like a 4.5% daily return. Seriously, who wouldn't like it? However, it is not true and a scam.

Get real people.

4,5 is only for those with high investments(20k+, if I'm wrong). For the low tier it is only 3%

I think people will get it, the doubt is how long they will keep receiving

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I would like a 4.5% daily return. Seriously, who wouldn't like it? However, it is not true and a scam.

Get real people.

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Quote from: marcotheminer on September 08, 2014, 01:37:23 PM

Quote from: cryptworld on September 08, 2014, 09:52:07 AM

Till now they are paying ok,let's see what happen in future

My assumptions are that they will stop paying (but not scam, maybe?) in around 1 month. 3% a day is just too high for the investment to continue paying out.

By definition a ponzi is a scam. There is just no way around this. A ponzi is something that takes your money while claiming to be investing it but in reality is actually using your money to pay back other people's money. Since they are lying about what they are doing with your money they are scamming

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I don't look like a fudster, but if you guys are slightly risk-adverse make a decision until next sunday.

And remember, only you can prolong or collapse this, it's in your power.

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Quote from: davida on September 09, 2014, 04:25:00 AM

Quote from: Brewins on September 07, 2014, 03:50:44 PM

Let people put their money wherever they want. This is not a child forum, you know.

Or you should also police the altcoin forum because most coins will die pretty soon, the gambling section because people may lose, the food people eat because it might not be the healthiest option, etc

Anyone seriously invested in altcoins is a lost cause.

This is true. It is also true that crypto miner can be nothing more then a ponzi. There is nothing they could potentially be investing in that would allow them to earn anywhere near 4.5% per day. Anyone that believes this clearly does not have a clear understanding of how economics works.

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Quote from: Brewins on September 07, 2014, 03:50:44 PM

Let people put their money wherever they want. This is not a child forum, you know.

Or you should also police the altcoin forum because most coins will die pretty soon, the gambling section because people may lose, the food people eat because it might not be the healthiest option, etc

Anyone seriously invested in altcoins is a lost cause.

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Quote from: marcotheminer on September 08, 2014, 01:37:23 PM

Quote from: cryptworld on September 08, 2014, 09:52:07 AM

Till now they are paying ok,let's see what happen in future

My assumptions are that they will stop paying (but not scam, maybe?) in around 1 month. 3% a day is just too high for the investment to continue paying out.

Not scam, maybe?

LOL! Grin

You're really confident.

It will last more than a month. The sig campaign is huge.

You'll go out after a month but then you see they continue paying after 2 months and you'll come back with even more trying to catch your "losses" and then BAM! you're scammed.

Be wise! If you quit after a month never come back!

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Quote from: cryptworld on September 08, 2014, 09:52:07 AM

Till now they are paying ok,let's see what happen in future

My assumptions are that they will stop paying (but not scam, maybe?) in around 1 month. 3% a day is just too high for the investment to continue paying out.

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Quote from: cryptworld on September 08, 2014, 09:52:07 AM

Till now they are paying ok,let's see what happen in future

In the future they'll stop paying. That's as certain as death!

And as death you just don't know when it will happen but I bet it'll be a lot sooner for most of us.

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Till now they are paying ok,let's see what happen in future

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Quote from: pedrog on September 07, 2014, 09:57:34 PM

You don't seem to understand how these scams operate, in a ponzi scheme there's going to be a point when there's a maximum of funds in the system and this is the point when the administrator runs off with all the money, it's not when there's no new money entering the system so he can't pay older "investments", it's when the new money slightly decreases.

Before they run off they want to maximize the funds and to do that they have to at least create an illusion.

The bigger the illusion (paid signatures, payouts...) the bigger payoff for the scammers.

And illusions cost money.

So if these particular scammers have more money they can create a bigger illusion ie make this thing last longer.

That's what I understood from his post so maybe he understands how a scam works.

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Quote from: sumantso on September 06, 2014, 12:20:11 PM

If anybody actually believes this and then loses money they deserve to. I suspect everybody is aware its a ponzi scheme and are hoping to jump off before it unravels.

I agree with the line of your statement.
Only thing that may mislead people is the massive signature campaign going on that may induce in someone the idea of reliability.

I mean ...someone may think: "if so many bitcointalk members are advertising it...then it should be ....."

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Quote from: pedrog on September 07, 2014, 09:57:34 PM

Quote from: hgerson on September 07, 2014, 05:17:46 PM

Wow... Never heard of futuretrails before.

At least now we know who is behind this and that they have the funds to back this thing for a couple of months.

From a quick read in your links futuretrails was hugely successful and lasted for 2 years.

You don't seem to understand how these scams operate, in a ponzi scheme there's going to be a point when there's a maximum of funds in the system and this is the point when the administrator runs off with all the money, it's not when there's no new money entering the system so he can't pay older "investments", it's when the new money slightly decreases.

Ofc they dont create these big scams for no profit

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Quote from: hgerson on September 07, 2014, 05:17:46 PM

Wow... Never heard of futuretrails before.

At least now we know who is behind this and that they have the funds to back this thing for a couple of months.

From a quick read in your links futuretrails was hugely successful and lasted for 2 years.

You don't seem to understand how these scams operate, in a ponzi scheme there's going to be a point when there's a maximum of funds in the system and this is the point when the administrator runs off with all the money, it's not when there's no new money entering the system so he can't pay older "investments", it's when the new money slightly decreases.

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Quote from: pedrog on September 07, 2014, 04:56:45 PM

Quote from: hgerson on September 07, 2014, 04:43:52 PM

Quote from: vipgelsi on September 06, 2014, 08:38:45 PM

Seems like a scam to me. Has anyone did any research on them?

Exactly what kind research do you think can be done here?

I'm curious...

Would you trust a polish bank with physical branches?
Well, it appears they are scamming people https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.80

And nobody seems to care. Only the people who lost their hard earned.

Scam seems to be the word of the day.

Text on the website is poorly copied from an old scam, they didn't even took the time to make it a little believable.

I think this little "research" is more than enough for people to stay away from this website:

Quote from: pedrog on September 06, 2014, 07:42:31 AM

From https://www.cryptcominer.com/

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Cryptco Miner is a corporate entity and has been officially registered. We manage the controversial alternative investment instruments. Our talented and experienced investment team has formed relationships with a number of other note professional throughout Europe, North America and Asia. Future Trials have originated from these relationships.

Cryptco Miner has a very devoted and expert financial team and advisors. They provide you with some of the best solutions regarding investing money. Future Trails expands funds in some of the largest profitable industry sectors which include: Bitcoin Mining, Forex, Real Estate, Stock Market, private equity, hedge funds, commercial property, etc. It looks forward to improve returns and profit on investments and reduce the risk involved. Forex or Foreign Exchange Market is one of the most profitable sectors for making investments. You can substantially multiply your capital by making short term investment plans.

Future Trails SCAM : The biggest Short Term HYIP of 2011 ? http://hyip-blog-investment-monitor.com/2011/02/24/future-trails-scam-the-biggest-short-term-hyip-of-2011/

http://web.archive.org/web/20111015030955/http://www.futuretrails.com/

Wow... Never heard of futuretrails before.

At least now we know who is behind this and that they have the funds to back this thing for a couple of months.

From a quick read in your links futuretrails was hugely successful and lasted for 2 years.

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Quote from: hgerson on September 07, 2014, 04:43:52 PM

Quote from: vipgelsi on September 06, 2014, 08:38:45 PM

Seems like a scam to me. Has anyone did any research on them?

Exactly what kind research do you think can be done here?

I'm curious...

Would you trust a polish bank with physical branches?
Well, it appears they are scamming people https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.80

And nobody seems to care. Only the people who lost their hard earned.

Scam seems to be the word of the day.

Text on the website is poorly copied from an old scam, they didn't even took the time to make it a little believable.

I think this little "research" is more than enough for people to stay away from this website:

Quote from: pedrog on September 06, 2014, 07:42:31 AM

From https://www.cryptcominer.com/

Quote

Cryptco Miner is a corporate entity and has been officially registered. We manage the controversial alternative investment instruments. Our talented and experienced investment team has formed relationships with a number of other note professional throughout Europe, North America and Asia. Future Trials have originated from these relationships.

Cryptco Miner has a very devoted and expert financial team and advisors. They provide you with some of the best solutions regarding investing money. Future Trails expands funds in some of the largest profitable industry sectors which include: Bitcoin Mining, Forex, Real Estate, Stock Market, private equity, hedge funds, commercial property, etc. It looks forward to improve returns and profit on investments and reduce the risk involved. Forex or Foreign Exchange Market is one of the most profitable sectors for making investments. You can substantially multiply your capital by making short term investment plans.

Future Trails SCAM : The biggest Short Term HYIP of 2011 ? http://hyip-blog-investment-monitor.com/2011/02/24/future-trails-scam-the-biggest-short-term-hyip-of-2011/

http://web.archive.org/web/20111015030955/http://www.futuretrails.com/

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Quote from: vipgelsi on September 06, 2014, 08:38:45 PM

Seems like a scam to me. Has anyone did any research on them?

Exactly what kind research do you think can be done here?

I'm curious...

Would you trust a polish bank with physical branches?
Well, it appears they are scamming people https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=746065.80

And nobody seems to care. Only the people who lost their hard earned.

Scam seems to be the word of the day.

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