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Quote from: falllling on July 15, 2014, 03:16:42 AM

Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 15, 2014, 03:09:39 AM

This thread reminds me that we are now more in a flat trend than a down trend.

what if we drop back to $4xx in few weeks?

Not the end of the world. I'm a buyer at $4xx. Frankly, right now, I've got cash sitting on the sidelines. Not selling, certainly, but not buying at $620, either.

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Quote from: theonewhowaskazu on July 15, 2014, 03:09:39 AM

This thread reminds me that we are now more in a flat trend than a down trend.

what if we drop back to $4xx in few weeks?

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This thread reminds me that we are now more in a flat trend than a down trend.

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$650!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Quote from: zimmah on May 10, 2014, 07:51:26 PM

Quote from: Wilhelm on May 10, 2014, 07:35:10 PM

This is the beginning of a trend reversal. It might not pull through this time but the bull pressure is building Cool

the bulls have been gathering for a couple of weeks now, soon they'll all storm and trample those bears and make them hide in their caves and cry for a couple of months and then the whole process will repeat itself again.

I disagree what bulls? No new money is coming in from anywhere.

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Quote from: UglyTroll on May 11, 2014, 11:54:32 AM

It's not funny, who's selling big Huh

Nobody......yet.

But possibly that 300 odd BTC sell order was from the source that piled in yesterday anticipating the 'break through', that never happened cos it wasn't actually a valid trendline that was broken.

Edit: Now they are selling a bit bigger.

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It's not funny, who's selling big Huh

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Quote from: BitchicksHusband on May 11, 2014, 08:38:06 AM

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 11, 2014, 06:25:46 AM

Lol looks like people even dump for $10 profit. Probably this will be hard to pass these days.... Even though I wrote that I got a good feeling about the future....

People always dumped for $10 profit.

But after weeks we go finally a bit up and greedy people must instantly ruin it and sell for a $10 profit. That sucks... It will be hard to break this downtrend...

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A couple struggle to go up all failed, I think we all know where we're going Roll Eyes

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And back down again all the way lol

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From ~$2 to now, we've always had the same kind of cycles where we see a bubble beyond our dreams, relatively slow crumbling of the bubble followed by a quick pop, then a long period of ~, followed by a slow ramp-up, and then another bubble. I really doubt Chinese law matters in the long-term, and I don't find compelling the idea that China would disallow Chinese exchanges from operating but permit the exchange of USD<->BTC acceptable. The Chinese would likely end up defying law, but if they're all going to defy the law, how is it not an over-reaction to sell coins? /drunken speculation
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So how high would this next bubble have to go to be 'beyond our dreams'? How high would it have to go to truly astound everyone? Presuming there is another bubble of course

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Quote from: BitchicksHusband on May 11, 2014, 08:38:06 AM

Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 11, 2014, 06:25:46 AM

Lol looks like people even dump for $10 profit. Probably this will be hard to pass these days.... Even though I wrote that I got a good feeling about the future....

People always dumped for $10 profit.

Good move considering you shouldn't even be trading long during a downtrend. It's not just about a $10 profit but avoiding a $100 loss. As soon the false break happens you realize you are no longer in a good trade but are at a peak during a downtrend, looking downwards from the sky.

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Quote from: UnDerDoG81 on May 11, 2014, 06:25:46 AM

Lol looks like people even dump for $10 profit. Probably this will be hard to pass these days.... Even though I wrote that I got a good feeling about the future....

People always dumped for $10 profit.

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Lol looks like people even dump for $10 profit. Probably this will be hard to pass these days.... Even though I wrote that I got a good feeling about the future....

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Quote from: T.Stuart on May 11, 2014, 02:40:12 AM

Don't forget what you were saying a few months ago Mat, that we would know when the low was in by the fact that it dragged on slowly for plenty of time. How can you have that with the kind of a "break out" you mention? Perhaps the current market is what you were talking about?

I think that the intermediate low is either in, or soon will be in. But if it isn't in, then it could be quite some low indeed....one last huff and gasp from the dying China perhaps, in the form of a shit ton of coin hitting Bitstamp/BTC-e for cash out into USD, which is the whole point of Bitcoin to many Chinese investors anyhow. It was always about capital flight for these guys....and of course gambling. So China to my view aint over yet and until it is, there still hangs that potential for a storm of selling pressure over Bitcoin.

EDIT:

I would also add that on the log-chart (the chart I am using for the 'bigger picture'), there has been no break out. As can be viewed from the chart below, Bitcoin is slap bang in the middle of an intermediate resistance trendline and a long term support trendline, and actually hovering exceedingly close to the long term support trendline when compared with the longer term resistance line:

Since we are talking about a move from around $10 to $1150, and then back down to $400 range, I think that perhaps the log chart is the one people should be looking at when considering Bitcoin on the longer term?

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Quote from: MatTheCat on May 10, 2014, 10:05:10 PM

Ultra low volume on a 'break out' from a 5 month downtrend?

Seems a bit crumbly to me.

Don't forget what you were saying a few months ago Mat, that we would know when the low was in by the fact that it dragged on slowly for plenty of time. How can you have that with the kind of a "break out" you mention? Perhaps the current market is what you were talking about?

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Quote from: TERA on May 11, 2014, 12:07:27 AM

Quote from: Kluge on May 10, 2014, 10:40:07 PM

Quote from: MatTheCat on May 10, 2014, 10:05:10 PM

Quote from: Kluge on May 10, 2014, 09:49:50 PM

I don't mean to intrude with my down-home know-nothing perspective, but it seems to me like we're in a period of "flippant uncertainty" where nobody really knows what to do. We're still way behind our regularly scheduled breakout period, but there's so much confidence that we'll break out that people are willing to gamble a little early, maybe out of laziness/impatience. Any movement that happens within the next couple months will probably be (relatively) minor and corrected within a week. $420->$450 is tony bologna.

Perfect time to loan some money on the leverage market and go to the bar.

If everyone was so confident of the break out, then would they not already be going long Bitcoin? After all, we have just broken out from the wave 4 trendline from the the $1160 high as per the linear chart (and $30 away from doing so on the log chart).

Ultra low volume on a 'break out' from a 5 month downtrend?

Seems a bit crumbly to me.

I suspect that investors are waiting on China to do something. They are the market makers after all and the future of Bitcoin is hanging by a thread there. Who is going to go long right now when they may wake up on Monday to all the Chinese exchanges being shut-down and a shit-ton of coins making their way to USD markets in order to cash out?

Why would I tie up money during a waiting period (based on previously-played-out cycle patterns)? From ~$2 to now, we've always had the same kind of cycles where we see a bubble beyond our dreams, relatively slow crumbling of the bubble followed by a quick pop, then a long period of ~, followed by a slow ramp-up, and then another bubble. I really doubt Chinese law matters in the long-term, and I don't find compelling the idea that China would disallow Chinese exchanges from operating but permit the exchange of USD<->BTC acceptable. The Chinese would likely end up defying law, but if they're all going to defy the law, how is it not an over-reaction to sell coins? /drunken speculation

Hey this guy has a good point here. For those of us who are avid traders/investors, it is more beneficial for us to trade other assets during slow periods, than to hodl bitcoins, even if we end up buying back at a higher price.

Unless you can hodl bitcoins while also taking positions in other assets.

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Quote from: Kluge on May 10, 2014, 10:40:07 PM

Quote from: MatTheCat on May 10, 2014, 10:05:10 PM

Quote from: Kluge on May 10, 2014, 09:49:50 PM

I don't mean to intrude with my down-home know-nothing perspective, but it seems to me like we're in a period of "flippant uncertainty" where nobody really knows what to do. We're still way behind our regularly scheduled breakout period, but there's so much confidence that we'll break out that people are willing to gamble a little early, maybe out of laziness/impatience. Any movement that happens within the next couple months will probably be (relatively) minor and corrected within a week. $420->$450 is tony bologna.

Perfect time to loan some money on the leverage market and go to the bar.

If everyone was so confident of the break out, then would they not already be going long Bitcoin? After all, we have just broken out from the wave 4 trendline from the the $1160 high as per the linear chart (and $30 away from doing so on the log chart).

Ultra low volume on a 'break out' from a 5 month downtrend?

Seems a bit crumbly to me.

I suspect that investors are waiting on China to do something. They are the market makers after all and the future of Bitcoin is hanging by a thread there. Who is going to go long right now when they may wake up on Monday to all the Chinese exchanges being shut-down and a shit-ton of coins making their way to USD markets in order to cash out?

Why would I tie up money during a waiting period (based on previously-played-out cycle patterns)? From ~$2 to now, we've always had the same kind of cycles where we see a bubble beyond our dreams, relatively slow crumbling of the bubble followed by a quick pop, then a long period of ~, followed by a slow ramp-up, and then another bubble. I really doubt Chinese law matters in the long-term, and I don't find compelling the idea that China would disallow Chinese exchanges from operating but permit the exchange of USD<->BTC acceptable. The Chinese would likely end up defying law, but if they're all going to defy the law, how is it not an over-reaction to sell coins? /drunken speculation

Hey this guy has a good point here. For those of us who are avid traders/investors, it is more beneficial for us to trade other assets during slow periods, than to hodl bitcoins, even if we end up buying back at a higher price.

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Quote from: MatTheCat on May 10, 2014, 10:05:10 PM

Quote from: Kluge on May 10, 2014, 09:49:50 PM

I don't mean to intrude with my down-home know-nothing perspective, but it seems to me like we're in a period of "flippant uncertainty" where nobody really knows what to do. We're still way behind our regularly scheduled breakout period, but there's so much confidence that we'll break out that people are willing to gamble a little early, maybe out of laziness/impatience. Any movement that happens within the next couple months will probably be (relatively) minor and corrected within a week. $420->$450 is tony bologna.

Perfect time to loan some money on the leverage market and go to the bar.

If everyone was so confident of the break out, then would they not already be going long Bitcoin? After all, we have just broken out from the wave 4 trendline from the the $1160 high as per the linear chart (and $30 away from doing so on the log chart).

Ultra low volume on a 'break out' from a 5 month downtrend?

Seems a bit crumbly to me.

I suspect that investors are waiting on China to do something. They are the market makers after all and the future of Bitcoin is hanging by a thread there. Who is going to go long right now when they may wake up on Monday to all the Chinese exchanges being shut-down and a shit-ton of coins making their way to USD markets in order to cash out?

Why would I tie up money during a waiting period (based on previously-played-out cycle patterns)? From ~$2 to now, we've always had the same kind of cycles where we see a bubble beyond our dreams, relatively slow crumbling of the bubble followed by a quick pop, then a long period of ~, followed by a slow ramp-up, and then another bubble. I really doubt Chinese law matters in the long-term, and I don't find compelling the idea that China would disallow Chinese exchanges from operating but permit the exchange of USD<->BTC acceptable. The Chinese would likely end up defying law, but if they're all going to defy the law, how is it not an over-reaction to sell coins? /drunken speculation

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Quote from: Kluge on May 10, 2014, 09:49:50 PM

I don't mean to intrude with my down-home know-nothing perspective, but it seems to me like we're in a period of "flippant uncertainty" where nobody really knows what to do. We're still way behind our regularly scheduled breakout period, but there's so much confidence that we'll break out that people are willing to gamble a little early, maybe out of laziness/impatience. Any movement that happens within the next couple months will probably be (relatively) minor and corrected within a week. $420->$450 is tony bologna.

Perfect time to loan some money on the leverage market and go to the bar.

If everyone was so confident of the break out, then would they not already be going long Bitcoin? After all, we have just broken out from the wave 4 trendline extending back to the $1160 high as per the linear chart (and $30 away from doing so on the log chart).

Ultra low volume on a 'break out' from a 5 month downtrend?

Seems a bit crumbly to me.

I suspect that investors are waiting on China to do something. They are the market makers after all and the future of Bitcoin is hanging by a thread there. Who is going to go long right now when they may wake up on Monday to all the Chinese exchanges being shut-down and a shit-ton of coins making their way to USD markets in order to cash out?

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