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Topic: 5 reasons for global marijuana legalization - page 3. (Read 3588 times)

legendary
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But the best thing to do is to NOT legalize. Instead, repeal all laws that make it illegal. Why?

For thousands of years pot was not controlled by government. Now all of a sudden, in the last 100 years, it is a controlled substance.

Don't you realize that if pot is legalized, it is still controlled? But it isn't the pot that is controlled. Rather it is YOU that are being controlled.

Don't you want freedom?

Cool

Exactly!

The governments can go and fuck themselves. They need to stop meddling in the day to day life of the citizens. The government can't dictate what should I eat or drink. We are not slaves of the government. Fortunately, as Bitcoin gradually replaces the fiat currency, the governments will find it more and more difficult to enslave the people.
sr. member
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not gonna happen. it will makes the world in chaos. stop non sense reason about this illegal drugs
legendary
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So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.

What do you mean? You understand that inititially, everything was legal, men made the laws that banned substances. You realize that all of these things are just substances, chemicals, they have no morals or conscience...

Like I said earlier, I believe all drugs should be legalised.
full member
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So after weed is legal do we stop there? Did we stop when alcohol became legal? No we're trying to make weed legal now too. So I guess heroine and meth and all substances will just be legal eventually then.
legendary
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But the best thing to do is to NOT legalize. Instead, repeal all laws that make it illegal. Why?

For thousands of years pot was not controlled by government. Now all of a sudden, in the last 100 years, it is a controlled substance.

Don't you realize that if pot is legalized, it is still controlled? But it isn't the pot that is controlled. Rather it is YOU that are being controlled.

Don't you want freedom?

Cool

It's a nice idea, and I agree, in an ideal world weed would be freely grown and used responsibly. However, we have this thing called "society"...

You can't make an illegal thing free without first legalising it, it's a bit like the step between Socialism and Communism.
legendary
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But the best thing to do is to NOT legalize. Instead, repeal all laws that make it illegal. Why?

For thousands of years pot was not controlled by government. Now all of a sudden, in the last 100 years, it is a controlled substance.

Don't you realize that if pot is legalized, it is still controlled? But it isn't the pot that is controlled. Rather it is YOU that are being controlled.

Don't you want freedom?

Cool
newbie
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Pot is great, end of story. But not for children, legalize it for the sake of our kids!
legendary
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I smoked marijuana a few times when i was younger. It just makes you dizzy and tired. Marijuana is just a hardcore marlboro. It doesn't make butterflies flying in your head. Only a headache.

Pretty sure it fcks up your body too. I really don't care who smokes and who doesn't but it sure makes you lazy and capitalism don't want lazy people around. They want you to work. That's why it is forbidden almost everywhere around the world.

No, it's actually forbidden because some people in power in America in the 1930s had ulterior motives for its prohibition.

It was partly because they didn't like the influx of Mexican immigrants at that time, who used marijuana recreationally. So the use of marijuana was associated with poor Mexicans/jazz clubs etc. There was also a conflict of interest, because hemp fiber competed with the cotton industry and nylon  made by Du Pont. Whaddya know, the guys in power were good friends with the guys from Du Pont, and some people running the cotton industry, so in 1937, they banned marijuana, because REEFER MADNESS!!!

Propaganda at its finest, and it still influences the world today. For example, Japan used to have tens of thousands of cannabis farms, but now it has a strict anti-cannabis stance - this began after the American control of Japan after the 2nd World War.

It's all very interesting, if a little depressing...
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Hey more braindead zombie stoners to do the stupid work nobody else wants to do. I'm fine with that Grin
legendary
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Research funded by the US government (Yes, the same people

who schedule it as a drug with no medicinal value, shows that marijuana acts on the same receptors of the brain as

benzodiazepine drugs do
, which are prescribed as a commercial treatment for generalized anxiety disorder today. Of

course, cannabis is less stronger, which also makes it less addictive, and it bears none of the side effects that the

pharmaceutical drugs do. There have been very few deaths attributed to medicinal marijuana use. There are none that I am

aware of.

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First of all, great post, I agree with the vast majority of what you said in your OP. But I disagree with you here on the pharmacology of marijuana/THC vs benzodiazepines, the bolded part. Can you source this research, I'd really like to read it.

Firstly, benzodiazepines and the chemicals in marijuana are totally different drug classes, with different mechanisms of action:

THC mainly affects the cannabinoid receptors (CB1 and CB2 primarily), but it does also have an effect on GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid). It has been known to inhibit GABA.

Benzodiazepines on the other hand, are GABA receptor agonists, this is their main mechanism of action. This means they increase the efficiency of GABA on the brain. More GABA/higher efficiency of GABA makes the brain relaxed, whereas inhibition of GABA has the opposite effect (some speculate this is why some people get paranoid/uncomfortable on high THC strains).

So put simply, THC and benzodiazepines have opposite effects on GABA.

However, I suspect that some of the other cannabinoids in cannabis such as CBD may have different effects on GABA in the brain - this is a hot area of research right now (for the scientists lucky enough to be legally allowed to research it  Angry Angry Angry)

What you say about the addictiveness is 100% true, benzos are extremely addictive, and withdrawal is one of the worst around, some say even worse than heroin and alcohol. You can get seizures which can kill you if you cold turkey from a long-term benzo habit. However don't forget that weed is mildly addictive as well.

Couple more corrections - the addictiveness of a drug is not because it is "stronger", it is to do with the drugs action on the body. And marijuana certainly does have side-effects, some of which are the same or similar to pharmaceutical drugs. All "pharmaceutical" means is that the drug has been tested and patented - for example in the UK a company called GW Pharma have a pharmaceutical drug called "Sativex". It is an extracted combo of THC and CBD, taken from weed grown in their secret growing labs here in the UK! (side note, I'm thinking about buying some stock in their company, think they could do very well when weed gets legalised in more states/countries, my stock tip for the day)

There is a common attitude among some of my friends, which is that "natural=good, synthetic/pharmaceutical=bad", and it's nonsense. Everything is chemicals, some good, some bad, some natural, some synthetic, some patented, some not. Botulinum Toxin is a barrel of laughs, 100% natural and the, uuhm, most potent toxin known to man...  Wink

As a personal note, I used to smoke quite a lot but haven't for a while - the effects were not pleasant anymore and made me lose motivation and become anti-social in my life. It's certainly not a cure-all wonder drug like some people say, but does have major medical and recreational use for many, with an incredibly safe track record.

I 100% support the legalisation of weed (and all drugs in fact), but I also think that more education is needed, and of course more research into the benefits/dangers of marijuana.
legendary
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Wow so many drug addicts on this forum o.O

Btw of course it changes body and mind or do you know people that are naturally stoned? Lol
legendary
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I smoked marijuana a few times when i was younger. It just makes you dizzy and tired. Marijuana is just a hardcore marlboro. It doesn't make butterflies flying in your head. Only a headache.

Pretty sure it fcks up your body too. I really don't care who smokes and who doesn't but it sure makes you lazy and capitalism don't want lazy people around. They want you to work. That's why it is forbidden almost everywhere around the world.
hero member
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"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Marijuana is not a magical cure for cancer. Right now, there are no effective medications for cancer. You need to burn the tumor with radiation, or cut it off through surgery. However, taking marijuana can lessen the pain which results from cancer, and can be very useful for patients suffering from end stage cancer.

I have also heard that it stimulates appetite in patients when radiation from the chemo makes them lose it. The same goes for aids medication. Maybe it is not about one or the other but how they can be used jointly (pun intended)
legendary
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While marijuana is the least dangerous in terms of overdosing, it causes extremely bad effects in regular users.

Don't try to fool the others. What are these "extremely bad effects" resulting from the regular usage of marijuana? My friends have been using weed for many decades now, and I am yet to notice any of these "extremely bad effects" on them. Alcohol and tobacco, on the other hand, are more dangerous than marijuana.
full member
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Say what you want but I am experienced in drug culture. While marijuana is the least dangerous in terms of overdosing, it causes extremely bad effects in regular users. It's one of the most potent and long lasting drugs. Should they make it legal I don't mind, it just means more good jobs will open up for people who don't feel the need to be idiots and use drugs Grin
sr. member
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"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Marijuana is not a magical cure for cancer. Right now, there are no effective medications for cancer. You need to burn the tumor with radiation, or cut it off through surgery. However, taking marijuana can lessen the pain which results from cancer, and can be very useful for patients suffering from end stage cancer.

Apparently vasodilation and improved sleep quality and quantity may play a useful role... One sure thing the Vladimir lifestyle (for those acquainted to the Russian media) is of course better! My problem is praising a lifestyle okay, but criminalizing another not okay.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1217
"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Marijuana is not a magical cure for cancer. Right now, there are no effective medications for cancer. You need to burn the tumor with radiation, or cut it off through surgery. However, taking marijuana can lessen the pain which results from cancer, and can be very useful for patients suffering from end stage cancer.
sr. member
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"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Thank you! This needs to be point number 6. It will reduce stigma and common misconceptions about marijuana, this is the realistic end goal.

Wrong, pesticides & fungicides & chemical additives can cause great biological damages. This a war, and all war are multifaceted.
hero member
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"Kids these days" think marijuana is the best cure for everything from depression to cancer. Once it's legal, you won't have to go somewhere on a back alley to get some harmless weed while some dude tells you it's the end of all evil and wars, you will talk to your doctor and he will tell you it might be good for cancer treatment side-effects, but not if you smoke it mixed with tobacco. It's good against seizures but not against panic attacks and anxiety. Once they legalize it, scientists can actually play myth busters with it once and for all. I'm tired of all the weed mythology that goes around everywhere.

Thank you! This needs to be point number 6. It will reduce stigma and common misconceptions about marijuana, this is the realistic end goal.
full member
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They all know it's harmless anyway, they don't want to be the one legalizing it because they don't want to lose the vote of concerned mothers.
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