Topic: 50 TH-miner - probably not for the kitchen... - page 2. (Read 3949 times)

I have  to agree that it will be a hot air machine.  The .5w a gh  is concerning  the sp30's claim .46w?


   The efficiency numbers are closing in on not much improvement.

 My old school 2012 GPU need 300 watts a gh/ 
Never had a FGPA
But my first asic need an AM usb stick needed 9-10 watts a gh
My next a red  fury needed 2 or 3 watts a gh.
My downclocked undervolted s-1 gets 1.4 watts a gh
My hosted Dragon 1th gets .9 watts a gh

The best running miner now a sp10 gets .7 watts a gh according to your tests on the low power mode.

The nex gen to come a sp30  may get .46 watts.

 we are going flat on this curve

Either way there will be hot air

Actual price might be higher as the immersion cooling tanks also have to be paid for, but yes, in 1~2 months Asicminer will deploy their new systems.

A "wet-dream-dryer", though.

All this will ASICMiner delivers 2PH @ $900/TH in 6 immersion cooled DataTank flat racks that can be reused for their next chip (at a cooling overhead of below 1%). Silent and dust free, no cold/hot aisle required.

Wet dreams indeed  

I doubt it is for real, more just a wet dream

How is this "design" anything new? You can get 50TH/rack now, filling a rack with sp10s.

Come July, you can even get a 115 TH rack with sp30s.

Spondoolies has the added benefit that you dont need to buy a minimum of 1 PH from them.....

  You win the internet for the day!!!!! 

I wish there was a "Like" button 

Well, if they deliver in Q4, it gives me enough time to let my hair grow and brawl with the most expensive hair dryer in my hometown!

Awesome!  Higher density so you can accrue greater mining losses in the same amount of space. 

If someone can post me a test rack Ill try it out on the 3 phase for free.

cloudhashing runs mostly cointerra and bitfury boxes.  the highbitcoin system doesn't exist yet, and won't until july at the earliest..  who knows if they've even taped out yet and if they have, july is the best case timescale at this point.. and could easily be august/sept if the chip works first time, and november if it doesn't.

The single blade looks interesting, and while the sales monkey would love me to order 5 X 208V/30A whips, I think I would rather run a few and expand. I am reserved due to the relationship with cloudpounding, likewise the propaganda is not that impressive with respect to the "staff". Is cloudpounding already running this ASIC? or are they going to magically pull a 2TH/s 1U blade out of a hat come July?

my cave is very comfortable, thanks ;-)

sorry i know of late they haven't been living up to their previously set reputation...  and that the frankenjups were a bad idea from the start... but i was still expecting the neptunes to be more than 3 TH when they're eventually delivered.  or do you think that assumption is no longer valid?

-- Jez

sounds like the dryer plug might have other uses 

 yeah but they say it is .5 watt per gh  so that rack is 50th or   500 watts a th at .5 watts  times 50 = 25000 watts

 You could put it on the market July 1st and it is a money loser.  never mind that it burns 25,000 watts.  how about cooling it.

it gives off 125,000 btu of heat

 you need a 10  ton 100000 btu unit to cool it. along with serious fan work  that is 6000 more watts.

http://peernova.com/product/petaone-rack/

PetaOne™ Rack Features

Performance

Each PetaOne Rack delivers 50TH/s
Power efficient design consumes an industry low 0.5W per GH/s
Mechanical

Standard 42U, with 24” wide open frame rack
Incorporates up to 36 standard 1U blades (19” wide)
Cooling Requirements

Conventional air-cooling, with hot aisle enclosure preferred
Input Air temp: 10-30 °C, Output Air Temp: < 55°C
Software

Remote management, diagnosis and troubleshooting
Supports mining for Alt coins, easy upgradeability
We are accepting pre-orders for early July delivery!

Even at .1 watts GH if they can reach Spondoolies Gen 3 batches,  it would need 5000 watts to operate.  Where would people plug that into their house.  50amp 115v, or 30amp 240v circuit.

Have you been hiding in a cave aerobatic? "KNC has a habit of overdelivering." WHA? That statement couldn't be further from the truth!

a rack is usually 42U tall (and are up to 48U tall) and if they're claiming 50 TH per rack, then thats slightly more than 1 TH per U.  this is for silicon that they may not have taped out yet (its not been announced) and thus may not available til later this year, presumably a few months from now, even if they were to tapeout today.   highbitcoin/peernova has yet to make their first silicon and many companies who received first silicon didn't get them working at their anticipated spec so there are risks of course that the silicon isn't always 'right first time', and even if it 'works', it may be grossly higher power than estimated (most asic companies have suffered this problem as bitcoin mining asics are notoriously difficult to accurately simulate with existing power estimation tools)

Spondoolies next generation SP30 product has already been pre-announced and pre-orders taken for it... and its approx 6 TH in a 2U rack device, thus it would comfortably beat the highbitcoin density spec.   their sp30 product is about 4x their currently shipping product (sp10).  i mention the 4x number, because it feels like about the right stepping from one generation to the next and is probably a theme that we will see from other bitcoin asic providers.

kncminer's current product is 4U and in no way gets close to the density (700 gh) so its hardly worth mentioning, but their next gen product - the neptune, was announced to be at least 3 TH/s in a 4U so its getting close to the required density, and that should be available by June (they say), and kncminer has a habit of over-delivering so its likely their neptune will be a 4 th/s miner and that they might hit the density of 1 TH/s per U that this would require.

cointerra's current product is also a 4U and is 1.6 th/s (or 2.0 th/s next month with the improved boards)...  which isn't as high a density (but only half isn't that far away), and presumably cointerra's next product will probably also be in the ballpark.  if their next gen one is more than 2x the density of their current one then they'll be there, and it seems clear that no company is just going to aim for a 2x improvement from one generation to the next so expecting more than 2x is likely.

all of this talk of density is relatively academic as datacenters don't charge too much for increased rack space use thus density isn't so important, but instead, charge proportionally for how many KW's are used, thus fitting in less rack space doesn't save much cost but being lower power, does save a lot of running expenses.

Same team as highbitcoin.com - I'd say google around for that - make up your own mind.