Topic: 60 Days Ban Appeal - page 2. (Read 463 times)

I issued the ban. People who incentivize posting in a thread in exchange for altcoins usually get suspended for 30 days. Since this is your 2nd time being banned (3rd time if we were to count the ban that was ended early; I don't but just adding in this info for completion's sake), the duration is doubled (as with most consecutive bans being issued). Posting the giveaway outside the altcoin sections doesn't indemnify you nor should it (IMO) reduce the punishment since you've simply violated yet another rule. From https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657:

While in certain cases leniency can be applied, you:

1) Have been on Bitcointalk for over 2 years.
2) Conducted a substantial amount of business deals on Bitcointalk (based on your Trust feedback).
3) Extensively represent a business / commercial entity.
4) Violated several rules while representing said entity.
    4.1) Posted a giveaway that's outside Games and Rounds (Bitcoin giveaways are restricted to Games and Rounds)
    4.2) The giveaway is giving away altcoins in exchange for posting in your thread (violating one of the few zero-tolerance rules on the forum)
    4.3) Posted altcoin content outside the altcoin sections
5) Have already been banned in the past for violating the forum's rules (not counting the ban that was ended early).
6) Have also been banned (though IIRC the ban was ended early) for participating in an on-forum altcoin giveaway (=4.2) that was posted in the main boards (=4.3) (meaning you should be aware of the rule's existence or at least gotten curious as to what the rule is).

Which leads me to a simple conclusion - there is no valid excuse for you to not know the forum's rules or where and how certain type of content should be posted before posting it.

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If you accepted entries to your giveaway (that doesn't have a requirement to post in one or more threads) via PM or via off-forum means (Google Forms, email, other external websites), yes, that'd be fine.

I don't think this is a valid ban because you are not paying users directly to post on your thread. Giving coins to users on your own site or any third-party website doesn't qualify as incentivized posting, as far as I understand.

From my understanding, a ban should be issued if the user is asked to post their altcoin address on the forum and paid within that, if you are paying the user off-forum then it should never qualify as incentivized posting.

I repeat, no user was asked to post their USDT address on the forum, hence according to my limited understanding of the forum, it shouldn't deserve a ban, let alone 2 months.

Most of the threads in the Games & Rounds section have mentioned prizes in USD so do they all deserve a ban? I don't think so

Given all the good he has done to the forum and gambling community, I hope he gets unbanned.

That's on you--you've been around long enough that you should have read the rules by now.  Aside from that, what section did you post that in?  It doesn't say in the screenshot you linked to.

You're right, there are indeed shitposters everywhere, but the offer you posted encouraged them to keep bumping your thread to the top of whatever section you put it in, with zero-value posts.  But that's why I asked what section the thread was in.  It's still against the rules, but if you had it in a garbage section (like altcoin bounties or Games and Rounds, etc.) it probably wouldn't have had much impact on forum quality anyway.

In any case, the 60 day ban is fair.  I've seen other members get the same punishment (or it could have been 30 days) for doing exactly what you did--but again, it's in the rules, so there's really no reason for you to be upset about the consequences.

Yes, asking users to send you an email (or more commonly, to send a PM, or fill out a google survey) would be fine. The rule is against having users create low-effort posts in exchange for altcoins.

I do see that you have hosted a number of bitcoin-based giveaways and bounties for your website in the past looking at the history of the threads you have created. Assuming you have not been banned for similar transgressions in the past, one might argue that 60 days is a bit harsh.  

mprep is most likely the mod that banned you. You can send him a PM asking him if he is willing to reduce the duration of your ban, and that you promise to not host an on-forum altcoin giveaway in the future, and he may or may not be willing to do so. If you did legitimately did not know this was against the rules, you can tell him you were unaware of the rule, and that you now know this is not allowed. In my experience, he is both professional and fair.

So if I wrote "send me an email" instead - which I usually do - that would be fine? I am getting the point but seriously, some sort of reviewing the individual case instead of generic action would make sense, no? Oh, there was not a single response to this post btw... lol

You cannot offer incentives for users to make insubstantial posts in exchange for altcoins, aka host on-forum altcoin giveaways. Please see Giveaway threads are not allowed:

This is efialtis,

I just received an email about a post of mine having been deleted - after logging in, I see that I have received a 60 days ban for posting an exclusive offer in my very own BTCGOSU thread.

I have/had no idea that something like I posted was against the rules, even less so in my own thread (I didn`t post it in giveaways section for that very reason, being USDT and no Bitcoin) - so what should have been done?!

Now tell me, how does this deserve a 60 days ban? 60 days??? When this place (the forum) is full of shitposters, everywhere? This is unreal... unbelievable actually how honest members of this forum are f***** - congrats mods! Medal deserved!

https://i.imgur.com/FJTsLkK.jpg

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Profile link efialtis: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/efialtis-2597426