MMMM the power of a beautiful mind
Topic: 600,000 coins gone!! DPR's personal wallet un crackable! (Read 8185 times)
MMMM the power of a beautiful mind
Ulbricht was more often seen curled up in a living roof sofa reading—possibly sci-fi novels from the local library–when not at his computer.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2013/10/09/living-with-ross-ulbricht-housemates-say-they-saw-no-clues-of-silk-road-or-the-dread-pirate-roberts/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanmac/2013/10/09/living-with-ross-ulbricht-housemates-say-they-saw-no-clues-of-silk-road-or-the-dread-pirate-roberts/
Not the title.
Either a phrase from the book, or based on the x character from pages y through z of that specific edition.
automation ftw
Either a phrase from the book, or based on the x character from pages y through z of that specific edition.
automation ftw
The brain wallet key may be based on a book in the science fiction section of the Glen Park branch of the San Francisco Public Library.
Hint: he was looking at Heinlein (they only have Stranger in a Strange Land)
specific edition:
Author Heinlein, Robert A. (Robert Anson), 1907-1988
Title Stranger in a strange land.
Publication Info. New York : Putnam, [1961]
ISBN 0441790348
Description 408 p. 22 cm.
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Hint: he was looking at Heinlein (they only have Stranger in a Strange Land)
specific edition:
Author Heinlein, Robert A. (Robert Anson), 1907-1988
Title Stranger in a strange land.
Publication Info. New York : Putnam, [1961]
ISBN 0441790348
Description 408 p. 22 cm.
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So you really think it would maybe something like the title of the book? that would be the most smart way to safe a brainwallet....not!
The brain wallet key may be based on a book in the science fiction section of the Glen Park branch of the San Francisco Public Library.
Hint: he was looking at Heinlein (they only have Stranger in a Strange Land)
specific edition:
Author Heinlein, Robert A. (Robert Anson), 1907-1988
Title Stranger in a strange land.
Publication Info. New York : Putnam, [1961]
ISBN 0441790348
Description 408 p. 22 cm.
Remember me ↓
Hint: he was looking at Heinlein (they only have Stranger in a Strange Land)
specific edition:
Author Heinlein, Robert A. (Robert Anson), 1907-1988
Title Stranger in a strange land.
Publication Info. New York : Putnam, [1961]
ISBN 0441790348
Description 408 p. 22 cm.
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if those coins are split between many addresses and they have separate passwords, then good luck with force bruting it
How is it uncrackable? I heard it may be a brain wallet. What is that?
Its uncrackable because its presumably heavily encrypted and not worth the years of dedicated computing power it would take to crack. A brain wallet is a wallet designed around a simple phrase or collection of words. The idea being you only need to know the phrase and a predictable bitcoin address can be generated using a specific algorithm. It allows the owner to delete any physical copy of the wallet. The only way to get to the coins is to know the phrase. The coins effectively exist nowhere but the mind of the owner, hence the name "brain wallet"
I'm pretty sure skulls are crackable.
Also, if they're in a wallet that's never been spent from, "cracking" it is next to impossible because the public key isn't even available.
I like this explanation of what I mean (from here):
I like this explanation of what I mean (from here):
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Actually, if you are using the default client, they would not only have to break ECDSA (i.e. reverse your public key), but also RIPEMD and SHA256. Your bitcoin address is based off of ripe160(sha256(public key)), and the public key is only revealed when you send bitcoins. However, the default client generates a new address to send "change" to every time you do a transaction, so this should not be an issue unless you have payment sent to an address after you use it and don't move the money out to a new address.
Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
Thats exactly what I thought, if they know the private keys, some FBI savvy dude will steal it. Welcome to the jungle!
Assuming he does tell the FBI, what would be the incentive of the person he tells to reveal to that to the other FBI agents? He could easily just take the coins and claim DPR refused to tell him.
So can the feds.
He could make a deal to reveal it after they bust him out of jail. They could still kill him after that however.
What I thought of when I read this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXgb9jG5HKM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m18s
SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND BITCOINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How is it uncrackable? I heard it may be a brain wallet. What is that?
Its uncrackable because its presumably heavily encrypted and not worth the years of dedicated computing power it would take to crack. A brain wallet is a wallet designed around a simple phrase or collection of words. The idea being you only need to know the phrase and a predictable bitcoin address can be generated using a specific algorithm. It allows the owner to delete any physical copy of the wallet. The only way to get to the coins is to know the phrase. The coins effectively exist nowhere but the mind of the owner, hence the name "brain wallet"
How is it uncrackable? I heard it may be a brain wallet. What is that?
You'd better hope the Fibbies never crack it because if they successfully crack his, they will get around to cracking your.
My $.02.
My $.02.
Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
Thats exactly what I thought, if they know the private keys, some FBI savvy dude will steal it. Welcome to the jungle!
Assuming he does tell the FBI, what would be the incentive of the person he tells to reveal to that to the other FBI agents? He could easily just take the coins and claim DPR refused to tell him.
Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
Thats exactly what I thought, if they know the private keys, some FBI savvy dude will steal it. Welcome to the jungle!
Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
There is an evidence room? You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
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Even if the FBI is not able to transfer the money, merely having possession of the wallet file itself is enough to prevent the coins being spent.
I guess the guardian should investigate a little more about their topics before printing such false claims.
* tkbx punches a wall
Attn: Any FBI agent with access to any seized bitcoin private keys,
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
You can anonymously take those bitcoins and no one will be the wiser. Mix them up a bit and do what you wish with them. It is much easier then stealing drugs or cash out of the evidence room.
He could use it as prison currency.
Bitcoin is ideal for prison use. It is impossible to find by the guards. Everyone must get used to using brain wallets - but since they all have much time, this won't be too hard. Bitcoin is perfect for use by locked up felons - and those on the run!!! What a great world we live in.How would you spend it in prison? Pen/paper and a math textbook? or maybe it will be 'off-chain'?
Are you on drugs?
1. No (unlike most of the people recently posting in this forum). But thanks for asking, appreciated. The FBI couldn't care less about 600,000 bitcoin.
2. Ah, good to know. I must assume you know very well what you are talking about. Who gave you this information, if I can ask? Can you imagine the news if they get the rest of the money? It would be priceless for them, like for any other LEA (Law Enforcement Agency).What on earth do they want them for? Do you think they would sell them and use the money to buy coffee for the agents?
3. Maybe because the law says so? And obviously for the same reason mentioned at point 2.80 million is nothing to the Fed. There is no motivation whatever for the FBI to stall their investigation until they find the key. If those 600000 coins go lost forever, the FBI doesn't give a damn.
See point 2 again.Everyone who holds bitcoin should just celebrate that that value was instantly returned to the community. All of our holdings just went up 5%.
4. That's your opinion, I could also agree.The FBI doesn't want those bitcoins for any purpose. They want that guy in jail - and now he is. The FBI is starting to look for the next guy already. They don't care about DPR's key in the least. Let it die with him.
See point 2 again. What do you say? They don't want to grab the money??? The recovery of the assets is always a target, not only to catch the bad guys.Maybe, they'd like to prevent him from getting that money to a lawyer. $80million worth of legal services might bring them a headache. Otherwise, they don't even want to find that money.
5. If they get the money, THIS will prevent him from using it for paying a bunch of lawyers.6. You don't need to be aggressive when you share your opinion on this forum!
Peace! Cheers!
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