Topic: [796.com] RedStarMining.com - the oldest public mining security [15.0(TH/s)] - page 25. (Read 120546 times)

I'm confused, I thought in order to settle the scammer thread that 66 would be brought, not the entire lot now?

I have 141 shares according to one of your PM originally, then I sold 4 shares to another RSM shareholder in a private deal, which I have CCed the information in the PM to you. Now I have 137 RSM shares. ( So I don't know where "143 shares" comes from)

I have been offering to sell all the 137 RSM shares at BTC0.299/share (a deep discount compared to your 0.41 buy back offering), but 66 shares is enough to settle the scam accusation.  (So I don't know where BTC0.29 comes from)

We currently have only 2,800 shares created.  This will be increased by a factor of thirty to 84,000 shares and so will everyones holdings be increased by a factor of thirty.  So I'm not changing the total sum value of RSM just changing the shares price from BTC0.30 to BTC0.0100 its called a Stock Split - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_split - So the market capitalisation of RSM will remain the same.

One of our major investors has contacted me to say they don't mind paying Horserider our wallet right away before BFL ship as long as you are still offering your 143 shares in full at BTC0.29 each.  This comes to BTC40.89 in total while RSM wallet is only around BTC34.00.  The other BTC6.00 will be provided by me to buy around 23 of the shares personally.  Although I don't have that BTC6.00 for at least two weeks and I have no guaranteed income until I'm recieving dividends.  Although the trading of shares can take place on btct.co as soon as where approved.

Is this suitable or would you rather wait for BFL to ship and sell the 70@BTC0.41

We have listed on - https://btct.co/security/RSM - and are just waiting for approval and to send the exchange operators our shareholders list.

Our admin officer Evelox has been following our wallet for a while now.  If you want me to send it to senbonzakura the ex CEO of the IBB until BFL ship and the trade can take place then I will if he agrees.

Also if Evolex and senbonzakura have as much faith in BFL as me and are willing to let me pay out the majority of our wallet (our only real asset) before BFL ship then I will.

Have a happy new year everyone  

Matthewh, you as the controller of RSM, made the RSM into signing contract to back the shares of mine.  Now you break the contract. If you think RSM cannot buy back the shares, why the hell at the beginning you offered so?

Have you have any evidence that you still have the bitcoin of RSM? I suspect that you have already spent them. Show us the evidence that you have money, Matthew.

No, I have not offered you to buy the share back when the BFL shipped. Matthewh, you're such a jerk to manipulate understanding the agreement.

I hope all our other shareholders can see its wise that we hold on to our wallet until BFL ship.  Then after we can buy back horseriders holdings.  Therefore increasing everyone else's holdings and dividends by 5.14%.  Merry Christmas and have a Happy New year.

Scammer accusation:


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-violating-agreement-133279

Yes, any investors who want to buy my shares @0.299/share can save Matthew from violating the agreement.

Before the deadline, my 141 shares of RSM are all open for sell @0.3/share.  Matthewh3 or RSM has to buy back 70 shares of them according to the agreement we made before.





Is not English your mother tongue? Your English is even worse than mine. This sentence is very hard to get. Please restate it clearly. If I don't see 70 shares of buying back money at my GLBSE claiming address, Matthewh will have violated the agreement, and we will move to scam board to discuss all this.  It takes only 60s time for you to send the money and keep the agreement.

There is a private investor who want to buy 4 shares of RSM from me, if this purchase closed, it will leave Matthewh 66 shares' which he or RSM has to buy back; if it is not closed before the deadline, Matthewh still have to buy 70 shares from me.

In his PM, matthewh3 stated clearly about the time frame of buying back the shares and price.

Generally I think Matthew is a good guy, and I don't want to label Matthew a scammer, because he had honored my share even before Nefario sending out the shareholder list. I want to solve this.

About the time frame: Matthew has stated clearly in his PM, that he will buy back my share after he received and confirmed the number of my shares. So, Matthew, please do not play the lawyer's smart here. It is so simple and straight that there is no space for playing it. The term and time frame are all clear.

RSM shareholders' decision: I think this is not about RSM, it's about Matthew. Matthew as the issuer and controller of RSM, if he make RSM signing a contract which damages the RSM's interest, then it is Matthew who should pay for the loss of RSM, but not detroying the contract. Whether Matthew has the money or not is irrelevant.

However, now I have offered changing the agreement into a more fair condition, to save Matthew from the corner of damaging other RSM's shareholder value, or paying out the extra coins by himself which he said cannot afford. Before Matthew finally accept my offer and execute it, I still hold the original agreement.

My offer to solve this:

1. I have 141 shares according to Matthew's PM. Matthew buy back 70 of my shares at 0.299BTC/share right now, which is a slight discount price. RSM has the money.
2. Listing the RSM shares ASAP. There are exchanges offering free listing for GLBSE asset. I see no reason not doing that.
3. My other 71 unsold shares should be listed on the chosen exchange, with no binding to sell it back to Matthew, except that Matthew offers a buying back condition for all shareholders in the future, and then the price should be decided by the market or vote, but should not be decided now.

Matthew, I will give you another 24 hours for you to find the money and execute it. You know about my GLBSE bitcoin address, it is 18w3kTsMADXYwYCN4AkWwbknAUySujHt64. I will check the address for the buying back money. On December 25, 2012, 05:10:39 PM, all the PM and previous post records will be on the scam board if the money has not arrived at the address.

I care about the integrity and keeping promise more than the money. Doing business fairly, keeping the promise is my ultimate targets. Changing the term of agreements should be by conversation and negotiation, but not by playing the lawyer's smart or ignoring.  For these reasons, I accept change the agreements but not persist the 0.41BTC/share price term if Matthew accepted my offer before December 25, 2012, 05:10:39 PM.

Merry Christmas.

Gonna chip in my 2 cents here I think

I think I can a bit of both sides here,

Matthew,

I agree with what appears to me, you trying to retain some btc in RSM whilst everyone waits on the new gear, it seems logical at this point incase it never arrives. As you say, we'd be bankrupt with no gear, and not btc - everyone would loose out.

Also, I think HorseRider is right, an agreement did look to be made judging by these posts on this thread, without more info that - thats all im going off, I dont think we can in good faith make him wait until the gear arrives, as valiant as your intentions are for RSM, I'd rather see you retain your credibility and RSM go under than you not and RSM survive.

That is of course if a request was made and accepted before you asked him to wait until the hardware arrives.


HorseRider,

I agree with you that Matthew has stated he would buy out shares, and yes I would also consider it an agreement made. Was the agreement between you and RSM to buy back the shares created before Matthew asked you to wait until the hardware arrives? ie, did you request he buy back your shares?

Also, I have always understood it to be coming out of RSM with the shares being destroyed, thus increasing the remaining shares, however in light of what Matthew is trying to do, which is keep RSM afloat until the new gear gets online, can a compromise be arranged?

How about half now, half when RSM are mining and have better cash flow? Does that not help both sides out a little and avoid a unnecessary scammer tag - which I'm not sure is warranted as im not sure Matthew has scammed you, he seems to be asking you for more time before the trade is done.

Also no time frame was given for the trade and it will happen.  So who have I scammed and how.  'Bah-Humbug' to you too.

In 24hrs I'll be enjoying the Christmas holidays.  The time-frame of buying your shares is in the hands of investors.

Matthew, this is not about pissing off me or not. I am not pissed off. I will have very good sleep tonight. it's about your maturity and integrity and credibility. You are a man right? be of your words. It is only about you, not about me.

Ignoring me is fine, too. 24 hours later, if I have not received the buying back money, I will just post the simplest and straightest scam accusation on the SCAM board with all the evidence. Destroying agreement are always tagged scammer there.

Your going on ignore in a minute.  You view the agreement as a personal offer when every post in this thread I've been acting on behalf of RSM. 

So what do the other shareholders think:  Should we use all our remaining wallet to buy Horserider out and by doing so increasing everyone's stake by 5% or hold onto our wallet and do the trade when the ASIC's ships.

You have offered so. No one forced you into doing that.

You destroyed the agreement. You have 24 hours left to find money to buy back my shares, without any premium. It don't have to be RSM's money.

Or I will just use the simple and straight evidence to put a scammer tag on you. You destroyed the agreement. That is so simple.