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Topic: [796.com] RedStarMining.com - the oldest public mining security [15.0(TH/s)] - page 26. (Read 120478 times)

legendary
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Matthew,  

I have just quoted your historical post for recording purpose but said nothing. It is you who have make an announcement first. OK, let's talk about. I suggest sincerely for your own good to negotiate this with me, but not force me to take action to put a scammer tag on you.

1. You, the issuer of RSM, offered buying back 100 RSM shares @0.41BTC.
2. We made a deal of buying back 70 RSM shares @0.41 BTC according to your offer.
3. Now you destroy the buy back agreement between us.

That is so simple. No excuses would be accepted.

There are unfairness in this buying back deal, however, I thought that you buy back the share out of your own pocket. You must have more information and confidence that you think 0.41 is still cheap to buy it back, and the premium will give you good credit over the community.

Now, you said the buy-back money is out of RSM. So, at the very beginning, you made a decision to damage the RSM's shareholder value to make yourself feel good. Don't forget, buy back at premium is the excuse you use to invest into pryming.com.

It is your own decision to make that buying back offer. And you, the controller of RSM, have made RSM buying back the shares. lf you think your offer damaged the RSM, then you should take responsibility.

Matthew, you have 24 hours to think about everything before I post all this on the SCAM board. I suggest you to negotiate with me.  I have offered you to buy back the share without premium right now, which is quite fair. Do not try to defend yourself publicly. You will lose and get a scammer tag, as you destroy the agreements so clearly. We have all the PM recorded.




It was always going to be RSM's money.  When RSM buys you out every other shareholders stake will increase by more than 5% because those shares are being destroyed.
donator
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Matthew,  

I have just quoted your historical post for recording purpose but said nothing. It is you who have make an announcement first. OK, let's talk about. I suggest sincerely for your own good to negotiate this with me, but not force me to take action to put a scammer tag on you.

1. You, the issuer of RSM, offered buying back 100 RSM shares @0.41BTC.
2. We made a deal of buying back 70 RSM shares @0.41 BTC according to your offer.
3. Now you destroy the buy back agreement between us.

That is so simple. No excuses would be accepted. You destroyed agreement

There are unfairness in this buying back deal, however, I thought that you buy back the share out of your own pocket. I though you must have more information and confidence about the RSM, so that you thought 0.41 is still cheap to buy it back, and the premium would give you good credit over the community.

Now, you said the buy-back money is out of RSM. So, at the very beginning, you made a decision to damage the RSM's shareholder value to make yourself feel good. Don't forget, buy back at premium is the excuse you use to invest into pryming.com.

It is your own decision to make that buying back offer. And you, the controller of RSM, have made RSM buying back the shares. lf you think your offer damaged the RSM, then you should take responsibility.

Matthew, you have 24 hours to think about everything before I post all this on the SCAM board. I suggest you to negotiate with me.  I have offered you to buy back the share without premium right now, which is quite fair. Do not try to defend yourself publicly. You will lose and get a scammer tag, as you destroy the agreements so clearly. We have all the PM recorded.

legendary
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i invested to get dividends , not to put into pyramining or other things

I started this company and bought over 250 shares in it out of my own pocket to make bitcoins.  I'd rather have BTC500.00 of dividends over ten years then BTC100 in one year then were bankrupt.  If you don't like our plans to make bitcoin then we are offering to buyback anyones shares for BTC0.41 each first come first served.

We currently have the funds to buy back about 100 shares at BTC0.41 then any more would be bought out of mining profits.  The amount set aside from profits to buy back shares would depend on demand but would be no more than 40% of mining profits.  First come first served in the buy back.

If you are only interested in short term profits then you should know we will be reinvesting 50% of profits into more ASIC hardware.  You should also know that after we have received our third ASIC pre-order that'll be putting forward the motion to save and reinvest up to 90% of profits into new ASIC hardware.  If anyone is only interested in short term gains then maybe they should consider our offer to buy back shares at BTC0.41 each.  This offer is first come first served.

I've just received our first request to buy back 70 shares at BTC0.41 this will be completed after we have received the records from the GLBSE.  All other shareholders should know all shares that are bought back are basically destroyed so any remaining shares increase in value.  For anyone else thinking of selling back there investment then it'll be done on a first come first served basis.  So if you want to sell out then get your requests in as we only have a ~BTC40.00 wallet.  Any more buybacks will be taken from mining profits.

RSM has BTC34.3989 as BTC10.00001111 was used on the Pyramining ASIC bonus deposit towards the dividend fund.  As discussed to proxy 1% of the dividend fund through Pyramining with this amount slowly increasing.  So the same amount is paid out through the dividend fund had we not invested in Pyramining but with RSM reaping the benefits of the Pyramining payment bonus to be used on the growth fund.

So as I'm sure all other shareholders will agree becauase even tho I don't think BFL are a scam if they were then RSM would still own BTC34.3989 rather than BTC0.00 as we would have paid all our wallet to you HorseRider.  So please wait until the first ASIC has been switched on and/or shipped.

So I either piss you off horserider by making you wait.  Or could possibly leave the company bankrupt if the ASIC's were fake.  I don't personally have that kind of money to buy them personally.  If I did I would have had no need for RSM as I could of just bought my own hardware.

I'm thinking now of listing everyone's shares on btc.co (to ease dividend payments) with the intention of buying them all back with my dividends.
legendary
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i invested to get dividends , not to put into pyramining or other things

I started this company and bought over 250 shares in it out of my own pocket to make bitcoins.  I'd rather have BTC500.00 of dividends over ten years then BTC100 in one year then were bankrupt.  If you don't like our plans to make bitcoin then we are offering to buyback anyones shares for BTC0.41 each first come first served.

We currently have the funds to buy back about 100 shares at BTC0.41 then any more would be bought out of mining profits.  The amount set aside from profits to buy back shares would depend on demand but would be no more than 40% of mining profits.  First come first served in the buy back.

If you are only interested in short term profits then you should know we will be reinvesting 50% of profits into more ASIC hardware.  You should also know that after we have received our third ASIC pre-order that'll be putting forward the motion to save and reinvest up to 90% of profits into new ASIC hardware.  If anyone is only interested in short term gains then maybe they should consider our offer to buy back shares at BTC0.41 each.  This offer is first come first served.

I've just received our first request to buy back 70 shares at BTC0.41 this will be completed after we have received the records from the GLBSE.  All other shareholders should know all shares that are bought back are basically destroyed so any remaining shares increase in value.  For anyone else thinking of selling back there investment then it'll be done on a first come first served basis.  So if you want to sell out then get your requests in as we only have a ~BTC40.00 wallet.  Any more buybacks will be taken from mining profits.

RSM has BTC34.3989 as BTC10.00001111 was used on the Pyramining ASIC bonus deposit towards the dividend fund.  As discussed to proxy 1% of the dividend fund through Pyramining with this amount slowly increasing.  So the same amount is paid out through the dividend fund had we not invested in Pyramining but with RSM reaping the benefits of the Pyramining payment bonus to be used on the growth fund.

So as I'm sure all other shareholders will agree becauase even tho I don't think BFL are a scam if they were then RSM would still own BTC34.3989 rather than BTC0.00 as we would have paid all our wallet to you HorseRider.  So please wait until the first ASIC has been switched on and/or shipped.
donator
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donator
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As RSM has had enough investment to pay for 180(GH/s) of ASIC's and we will soon have all shareholders details.  Then I'm probably going to turn RSM into a private mining Co-Op investors club.  I'll set up a spreadsheet to calculate everyone's dividends and once they reach a threshold of say at least BTC1.00 they will payout to your chosen wallet address.  RSM will still save 50% of profits for growth but will now save 5% of profits to buy back holders shares at BTC0.41 (tho that price is not set in stone yet) so everyone who has invested and wants to now get out and profit can do so.  We will also let people join the private miners Co-OP investment club for a reasonable price.  In the long term I will look at helping RSM shareholders in moving there share (ownership) on to a Open-Transaction servers (if they want to) - (https://github.com/FellowTraveler/Open-Transactions/wiki).
donator
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i invested to get dividends , not to put into pyramining or other things

I started this company and bought over 250 shares in it out of my own pocket to make bitcoins.  I'd rather have BTC500.00 of dividends over ten years then BTC100 in one year then were bankrupt.  If you don't like our plans to make bitcoin then we are offering to buyback anyones shares for BTC0.41 each first come first served.
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
i invested to get dividends , not to put into pyramining or other things

I started this company and bought over 250 shares in it out of my own pocket to make bitcoins.  I'd rather have BTC500.00 of dividends over ten years then BTC100 in one year then were bankrupt.  If you don't like our plans to make bitcoin then we are offering to buyback anyones shares for BTC0.41 each first come first served.

We currently have the funds to buy back about 100 shares at BTC0.41 then any more would be bought out of mining profits.  The amount set aside from profits to buy back shares would depend on demand but would be no more than 40% of mining profits.  First come first served in the buy back.

If you are only interested in short term profits then you should know we will be reinvesting 50% of profits into more ASIC hardware.  You should also know that after we have received our third ASIC pre-order that'll be putting forward the motion to save and reinvest up to 90% of profits into new ASIC hardware.  If anyone is only interested in short term gains then maybe they should consider our offer to buy back shares at BTC0.41 each.  This offer is first come first served.

I've just received our first request to buy back 70 shares at BTC0.41 this will be completed after we have received the records from the GLBSE.  All other shareholders should know all shares that are bought back are basically destroyed so any remaining shares increase in value.  For anyone else thinking of selling back there investment then it'll be done on a first come first served basis.  So if you want to sell out then get your requests in as we only have a ~BTC40.00 wallet.  Any more buybacks will be taken from mining profits.
donator
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matthew, how is everything going?
legendary
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I've just received the asset holders list.
full member
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Matthew, I dont know k3t3r from adam, however yes I have seen him on the thread and have always taken him to be an invester as well (based purely on stuff he's said) - havent got a clue how many shares tho.

Hopefully GLBSE will release the info everyone needs Smiley. now off to have a look into this btct thingy...

legendary
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sorry i have been away from the forum for a while. how are we proving ownership of share here?

We waiting on the GLBSE like some others.  I only know of six people who definitely invested but now you mention it I do remember seeing you around the thread.
full member
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sorry i have been away from the forum for a while. how are we proving ownership of share here?
legendary
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I'm still not sure if we can go public on btct due to legal reason.  Although unlike Giga everyone who put a claim in will be paid and profit.  If I am forced to do a buyback of any shares then I will pay a minimum of BTC0.60 per share.  So everyone who claimed will receive dividends until they have been paid BTC0.60 per share (eventually).  So everyone who invested doubles up on their investment.  Then after everyone has had their shares are bought the equivalent amount coin worth everyone else who invested dividend would have been apart from my investment will be paid to charity from then on.  These charity payments will be made public.  Although it could take a while to rise the funds for a complete buyback.  That course of action of the buyback is only one course of action for the future of many that I am considering.
legendary
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Some possible good news for shareholders - http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists

All unclaimed shares will come under my ownership but all dividends from them will be paid into the expansion fund of buying more ASIC's.  As well as the 50% of profits to be paid in to the growth fund of buying more ASIC's to increase profits along with dividends.  Along with me stating that I wish to eventually turn 90% of profits into the growth fund to increase profits along with dividends.  We need an aggressive organic strategy if we are to continue operating in the mid to long term.

We may move to - https://btct.co - so everyone who has put a claim in should receive their shares in the form of an account on that exchange.  All dividens from unclaimed shares will be paid into the growth fund to buy more ASIC's to increase profits and dividends.  So far 50% of profits are going to be paid into the growth fund.  Depending on how fast we grow I will be pushing for the growth fund to be increased up to 90% of profits.  I hope you will all support me increasing the growth fund.  As I see the rapid growth in dividends payments a lot more important than a larger but slowly dwindling dividend payment.
legendary
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Some possible good news for shareholders - http://blog.glbse.com/issuers-being-given-shareholder-lists

All unclaimed shares will come under my ownership but all dividends from them will be paid into the expansion fund of buying more ASIC's.  As well as the 50% of profits to be paid in to the growth fund of buying more ASIC's to increase profits along with dividends.  Along with me stating that I wish to eventually turn 90% of profits into the growth fund to increase profits along with dividends.  We need an aggressive organic strategy if we are to continue operating in the mid to long term.
legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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legendary
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Quite a few posts for me to read...

I would of preferred just 2% going to pyramining, had a look at them myself, wasnt sure what I thought of the idea really, hence the smaller amount.

Can see your thinking re the bonus' being put into the investment fund tho. Be a very slow return on the inital investment tho I think. Happy enough tho.





OK we'll start off with 2% of the dividend fund being paid into our Pyramining account.  Then as our Pyramining payments start coming in the initial 2% will start getting raised slowly so as not to effect dividend payments too much.
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